c1273d No.11834
Hello. My girlfriend is a Turkish so her family is traditionally Muslim. I love her and I want to marry her and we've discussed the possibility of marriage before but she told me her family wouldn't approve unless I converted to Islam. I have spoke to her about Christ but she doesn't want to give up her family values even though she isn't a strict practitioner she still practices some of the traditions. If she didn't convert I'd be ok with that but we can't marry unless I convert. What should I do? Ending this is not an option as I love her deeply and couldn't live without her. I admit that we have had sex but we've both agreed that sex should be kept inside of marriage so we haven't been having sex lately.
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2eec8e No.11837
You must end it. It is biblically prohibited for Christians to marry infidels.
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers.
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2eec8e No.11838
Also I don't know your own race but intermarriage is dysgenic. This is a mistake.
I'm sorry for the situation you've found yourself in and I know it's very emotionally difficult. Do not try and talk yourself out of breaking up, it obviously has to happen and that just makes it harder.
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437fd8 No.11846
>>11834
Unfortunately it is already over for your relationship, friend. By showing her that you are not serious about your convictions, you've given her a very poor testimony of your Christianity, and also your salt as a man.
You will likely try to make it work, but the longer it drags on, the more painful it will be. You should end it, and spend some time alone in prayer and in the word. Come back to dating when you are not so lukewarm.
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f49b90 No.11847
>>11834
I empathize but I've never be in a similar situation, so I can't give any counsel, I pray for you.
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c91952 No.11849
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6ab90b No.11850
>her family is traditionally Muslim.
>we've discussed the possibility of marriage before but she told me her family wouldn't approve unless I converted to Islam.
>I have spoke to her about Christ but she doesn't want to give up her family values even though she isn't a strict practitioner she still practices some of the traditions.
Nah mate drop her, don’t be like the old Israelites, pre-Zionist Christian men, or any man who ever took up a wife from a different religion than him who have a stronger faith in comparison as you will just cuck out and join them just like every person I ever seen this happen in real life
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27bc3a No.11852
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0e0de0 No.11860
>>11834 listen, nothing about Christianity says you can't love someone of a different religion, and lying would not improve your situation. I think this is a very tough situation and unfortunately there is no happy end, you'll have to breakup.
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4fa0bb No.11865
What's the Bible say about this? It definitely seems like you're playing the backwards game with Christianity!
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073919 No.11867
Your only two options are to give up or to convert to Islam
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d97703 No.11868
>>11834
There are two main passages to consider here:
>2 Corinthians 6:14
>Do not become partners with those who do not believe, for what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship does light have with darkness?
and
>1 Corinthians 7:12-16
>12. To the rest I say – I, not the Lord – if a brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is happy to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is happy to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified because of the wife, and the unbelieving wife because of her husband. Otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. 15. But if the unbeliever wants a divorce, let it take place. In these circumstances the brother or sister is not bound. God has called you in peace. 16. For how do you know, wife, whether you will bring your husband to salvation? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will bring your wife to salvation?
On the one hand, you should not enter into a relationship with a non-believer. On the other hand, you have already entered into the relationship, and not only that, you have become married in the flesh, if not married in the law. That being the case, I do not think it would be inexcusable to treat your relationship as a fait accompli, and stay together and marry in the law, following the advice of Paul in 1 Cor. However, you must make it clear to her that under no circumstances will you abandon your faith in Christ, and that your children will be raised in the church. If she cannot accept this, let her leave, and do not pursue her. It would be better to have this conversation sooner rather than later.
I'm praying for you, anon!
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0698ff No.11875
>>11868
It does not follow at all that because they've fornicated they need to marry.
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b5241b No.11928
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277304 No.12003
>>11834
You can only marry her if she converts to Christianity, otherwise you will have to find someone else.
Make sure your girlfriend understands that she can either choose her parents or you
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c8a8bb No.12023
>>11834
>she doesn't want to give up her family values
> her family wouldn't approve unless I converted to Islam
2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
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2b2d2b No.12056
>>11846
Tough but true. Good post.
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c8750c No.12073
>>11868
>11846
11846's post was so good that I was going to just move on but then I saw 11868's stuff and felt the need to ask this question, which implies a very strong answer if he can't answer it: What verse do you have to substantiate that penetrative intercourse = "marriage in the flesh?" In the OT the man /had/ to marry a virgin because virgins were worthless without their virginity in that culture, meaning that the man just destined the woman to live forever unmarried in her father's house. Therefore, so that she would not have to suffer such a fate, the man was /required/ to marry her.
This is not /at all/ the case in most of the world today, nor was it really in Jesus' day, which is why this Law is not brought into the NT. (If you want to get angry about me for dissing the Mosaic Law, then I'd like to ask you if you, "wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together," Levi. 19:19)
Until he finds a verse to substantiate the claim he made earlier (Paul's "You've been joined to the prostitute" verse doesn't count because Paul doesn't say that the men who do this need to marry the prostitute), I'll toss in that you have no obligation towards her, and as our good friend 11846 said above, you've already failed her and trying to save the ship will only drown you both. I.e., if you truly Love her, you'll let her go, get yourself right, and then /maybe/ come back as a proper man.
Now, also keep in mind, all of that has been said completely void of the whole point that you're now dead to your desires and alive to Christ, which means you are to /deny/ yourself, take up your cross, and die daily. Therein, on that verse alone, from Jesus' mouth, your confession of "I have too much affection for her," is actually a statement of idolatry. (My condolences if this hurts to hear this.) Therefore, you /must/ separate from that idol, rather than cling to it and "try to make it right."
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b315a1 No.12086
>>12073
fyi use two apostrophes to italicize on this site
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5cc2b3 No.12088
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7de279 No.12101
Lose salvation and that of your offspring over vagina?
Get your priorities straight.
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ec84d7 No.12167
I'm a Turk and let me tell if you a Turkish girl and her family are serious about religion then in most cases they are nutjobs so run away
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