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dceed7 No.5282

Are Muslims our Friends? Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated? Do we worship the same God? What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

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df1039 No.5284

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dceed7 No.5285

>>5284

tl;dw just explain to me why my Muslim brothers aren't my friends.

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6be585 No.5286

Muslims reject the divinity of Christ so no, their god is not ours. Further, this means they cannot be called our 'brothers and sisters' either. Sure we can be diplomatic with them, but don't fool yourself into thinking we're just mildly divergent believers of the same thing.

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49827b No.5320

>>5285

As the Quran says:

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

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dceed7 No.5327

>>5320

Then why are so many of my irl friends happen to be Muslim?

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49827b No.5388

>>5320

Could be deception

Could be they do not know the teachings of the Quran

Could be they choose not to follow the Quran

Could be you are a good friend

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a99c08 No.5392

>>5282

>Are Muslims our Friends?

Depends on the person

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

We should treat both are friends and enemies the way we want to be treated

>Do we worship the same God?

No

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

It’s complicated, it’s a very complex situation.

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a99c08 No.5393

>>5392

>both are

That should be “both our”

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0fa23d No.5397

Bait thread

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0c2fec No.5430

> Do we worship the same God?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpc4ygCQePM

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dceed7 No.5434

>>5430

Implies all Christians believe Jesus was literally God.

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0c2fec No.5439

>>5434

well not implying that - outright saying that

now away with you heretic

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c89ced No.5442

>>5434

All Christians do believe Jesus was (and is) literally God, because you're not a Christian if you don't

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dceed7 No.5443

>>5442

Jesus never says he is God in the 4 gospels.

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bbb46b No.5445

>>5434

Read the beginning of the Gospel according to John and get back to us

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c89ced No.5447

>>5443

>Jesus_never_said_anything_about_feony_home_invasion.png

Jesus is God. The Bible explicitly states it in John 1. Jesus doesn't explicitly state it in recorded scripture, but very obviously identifies Himself as God in a number of ways, cataloged here: https://carm.org/did-jesus-actually-say-he-is-god

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a9c9c4 No.5469

>>5282

>Are Muslims our Friends?

No.

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

No.

>Do we worship the same God?

Absolutely and definitely not.

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

No.

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dceed7 No.5522

>>5469

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

No.

"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12

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19e7f5 No.5523

>1

Sometimes

>2

Yes

>3

No

>4

Muslims are not our brothers and sisters

These are the correct answers

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0ced25 No.6075

>>5282

>Are Muslims our Friends?

No, until they renounce pisslam

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

yes

>Do we worship the same God?

No. It is explicitly said in the Koran that Allah is father to no one. He doesnt have eternally onlybegotten son, nor does he consider humans to be his sons and daughters (By the way, outright contradicting psalm 82:6 where God states about humans that "ye are gods and all of you are children of the most high). Allah has nothing to do with true god, this is a false entity, who is conceptually a transcendental cruel slaveowner.

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

They need to save themselves and escape pisslamic menace.

And I'm not talking about their immortal souls solely, pisslamic teachings damage every aspect of human life.

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c029ea No.11303

>>5282

>Are Muslims our Friends?

No

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

Yes

>Do we worship the same God?

No

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

Islam's main goal is global Islamization through any means necessary (including warfare and deception), thus they cannot be fully trusted.

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b8110d No.11326

>>5282

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

We should treat them the same way they treat our brothers in the middle east.

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

I have no muslim brothers or sisters. I don't know about you though.

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8969ec No.11328

>>5282

>Are Muslims our Friends?

They cannot force conversion but we are missionary rivals, living under sharia would probably be better than what were living under now in the west.

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

Yes.

>Do we worship the same God?

Metaphysically yes but theologically no.

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

I admire their zeal and Sufism.

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71be8d No.11332

>>5282

>Are Muslims our Friends?

>Surah Al-Bayyinah [98:6] Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures.

>The worst of creatures

Islam's most trusted source doesn't seem to think so

>>5443

I know this one, because He didn't use the exact words you ignore all His claims

Surah 3:135

>And those who, when they commit an immorality or wrong themselves [by transgression], remember Allah and seek forgiveness for their sins - and who can forgive sins except Allah ? - and [who] do not persist in what they have done while they know.

>Who can forgive sins except Allah?

Mark 2:5-15

5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.”

6 Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves, 7 “Why does this fellow talk like that? He’s blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

8 Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, “Why are you thinking these things? 9 Which is easier: to say to this paralyzed man, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, take your mat and walk’? 10 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the man, 11 “I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home.” 12 He got up, took his mat and walked out in full view of them all. This amazed everyone and they praised God, saying, “We have never seen anything like this!”

>When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.”

>But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.”

This is just one example of many.

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607447 No.11334

>Are Muslims our Friends?

Individually? Yeah, you can be friends with a Muslim. Collectively? No, they're out to destroy our faith.

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

Yes, always.

>Do we worship the same God?

In a way, every religion comes from man's natural necessity to get closer to God, so all religions worship the same God but only Christianity, thanks to revelation, worships Him correctly. So you could say "Yes, we worship the same God". But you could also claim the contrary, since many precepts in Islam go against God.

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

I've got nothing against the people, but their ideology is poisonous. Christianity was spread by people who didn't care about dying for their faith, and converts were willing to leave everything behind to become Christian. Islam was spread by people who didn't care about killing for their faith, and converts became Muslim mainly for taxation reasons.

I used to think all religions had a lot of truth in them, and I was into some gnostic stuff. I knew about Christianity and found it really deep. I went on to learn about other religions, specially Islam. That's when I realized Christianity is not just "one religion more" but "the one". I had a more favorable view of other religions when I knew less about them.

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f76fee No.11343

Are Muslims our Friends?

They're traditionally the enemy of Christians and still are, especially in Muslim dominated regions of the world. If you personally want a Muslim friend that's up to you, but if you meant they're friends of Christianity then absolutely no.

>Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated?

You should treat everyone the same way you'd like to be treated.

>Do we worship the same God?

No, we don't.

>What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

They're not family nor are they a part of the Christian brotherhood.

I believe a more important question that should be asked is "What do we do when Islam is the dominant religion in Europe?" The spirit of the West in Europe has been dead for a long time, that includes Christianity, our reaction to the occupation by Muslims and the conversion of churches into Mosques seems to indicate a need to desperately compile and protect the Canon works of the west as was molded and defined by Christianity throughout the millennium.

The only theocratic state in Europe is the Vatican, they should have the responsibility of keeping the Christian traditions and works alive, protected, and preserved even if St. Peter's Basilica is the last bastion of Christianity and in extention - the West. They have their own government, their own standing "army", their own economy, their own wall, and their own laws which are enforced.

I know this probably will not happen especially with the current Pope in charge, but we need to take radical measures to preserve our footprint in western history as modern secular governments fail to do anything about immigration of foreigners into a Europe which has abandoned God.

As for OP, stop trying to cope with the idea of religious harmony with a foreign political and religious movement and start digging your moat, our ideals are incompatible and will inevitably clash very hard in this cultural and religious war.

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399dbd No.11344

The fact that this was even a question on the f—ing christian board show just how stupid, insane, effeminate, and evil you f—s are, yeah, you give them government welfare, you treat them nicely, YOU EVEN LET THEM RAPE YOUR f—ING DAUGHTERS. Nice one Christianity, nice.And the crusades? that had more to do with capturing a holy site than pushing back Islam, you need to actually thank secular rulers for keeping Islam out of Europe.

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35990b No.11348

>>11344

(you)

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139204 No.11357

>>5443

John 10:30

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9690c6 No.11363

Muhammad was a pig farmer that f—ed his own sows, and this eventually lead to the creation of the animal we now commonly know as the dog. Muhammad is therefore the ancestor of all dogs. The Quran was written after Muhammad got high on fermented pig feces which lead to him feeling compelled to write the most perverted book ever. The parts about pigs being unclean were added by him after he had sobered up. He really loved f—ing pigs, and wanted to prevent anyone else from finding out how good it felt.

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ce4167 No.11370

>>11348

what's funniest about that post is that secularized western world today are the biggest promoters of immigration right now. They think their world is compatible with Islam where as the ancient christian world warred against them.

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71be8d No.11380

>>11374

What is really funny is that secularisim is and has always been the biggest promoter of any and all leftwing politics and leftwing politics are inextricably linked to secularisim.

It's also really funny that, when taken to it's logical conclusion, secularisim has no ultimate objective basis for intrinsic value of anything incluing race and societal integrity, and any meaning arbitrarily made is ultimately pulled out of the arse.

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71be8d No.11381

>>11374

>>11380

It's also hilarious when secularists point to heretical luke-warm individuals as being indicative of anything other than themselves.

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3fb4e8 No.11396

Muslims worship satan. Their symbol is the moon and the morning star, both symbols of satan. When muhammed would have his "revelations" he would writhe, growl, and foam at the mouth, all classic symptoms of demonic posession.

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9690c6 No.11401

>>11396

Actually no. The true story behind Islam is far simpler. See >>11363

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f04588 No.11402

>deny christ

>"friends"

f— off saracen

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195cd0 No.11427

>>5282

>are muslims our friends?

The moderate ones. Yea.

>spiritually?

No.

>do we treat them like how we wanted to be treated?

Jesus shows us the example perfectly. So yea

>do we worhip the same God?

Hell no.

>thoughts on muslims bros?

They sometimes come to us for some questioning. Just pray what we told them would make them turn to Jesus

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