b0376d No.9740
Reminder the nazis were not exactly atheists who decided to kill all the jews for no reason, there had been 1000 years of catholic oppression of the jews first and the church courted the Nazi high leadership
who could go to the Catholic Church for advice about what is right and what is wrong after they have shown such bad judgement?
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241fec No.9741
>>9740
Nice try Cathofag, but: >>9739
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b0376d No.9742
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241fec No.9744
>>9742
Everybody hates kikes on 8ch. Claiming that the Catholics hated kikes during ww2, which they didn't, they even protected them, is not a good argument against Catholics.
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b0376d No.9745
>>9743
The Catholic Church played both sides in WWII, they wanted to be around no matter who won the war and absolutely were getting in bed with Hitler and Mussolini.
point being if the Chruch and priests were going to get in bed with the nazis, how can you go to them and ask them if it's a sin to touch your girlfirend or something mundane like that when they have shown such horrible judgement
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241fec No.9746
>>9745
Wrong.
>In this capacity [the Pope] had been a critic of Nazism and helped draft the 1937 Mit brennender Sorge anti-Nazi encyclical. In his 1939 Summi Pontificatus first papal encyclical, Pius XII expressed dismay at the 1939 Invasion of Poland; reiterated Catholic teaching against racism and antisemitism;
>Upon his death in 1958, Pius was praised emphatically by the Israeli Foreign Minister,[6]
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b0376d No.9747
>>9746
LOL, that's how playing both sides against the middle works bro. The Chruch was one of the first to recognise Nazi Germany as a legit goverment. If Hitler had won they would have pointed to this and all the priests and high officials who were actual nazis and said they were in full support from day one, that's the game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskonkordat
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531fe3 No.9748
Catholics were generally against ndsap.
Of course the Roman church had relationship with the natsoc controlled state, that doesn't mean they considered the ideology favorable.
The Protestant state church was most aligned with natsoc ideology, and the Protestant confessing church was the most opposed. The RCC was noncontroversially in the middle
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b0376d No.9750
>>9748
>Catholics were generally against ndsap.
except no
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1243eb No.9751
>>9748
20%+ of all Nazi Stormtroopers were Catholic, look it up
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857508 No.9752
>>9740
>the holohoax happened
>it would be bad if it did
Nice try rabbi.
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2e210d No.9755
>>9750
How does that disprove voting patterns?
>>9751
US is 56% white, but the Navy seals are 99% white. A subset of a population isn't representative of the whole necessarily.
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241fec No.9758
>>9747
>>9748
>>9750
There was nothing extraordinarily affirming or friendly about the "Reichskonkordat", just an usual agreement signed between 2 states. The Vatican was in favor of fascist movements in Spain and Belgium and the Puppet State of Croatia, because they were in favor of the Vatican, but with Nazi Germany the Vatican was at odds.
You have to understand that Catholicism isn't just one person, and that there are 3 different groups here:
1. Catholic Germans, who are influenced in degrees by both the RCC and Nazi party
2. Catholic German clergy, same as above with more RCC and less Nazi
3. Vatican Bureaucracy, who answer only to the Pope and Vatican strategic reasoning
Only the 3rd category is "pure Catholic", and it was neither pro-Nazi nor anti-Jew. However, many Catholic fascist states that were actually supported by the Vatican, like Francoist Spain and the German puppet State of Croatia, had very good relationships with Jews.
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1243eb No.9766
>>9758
>There was nothing extraordinarily affirming or friendly about the "Reichskonkordat",
Actually it was one of the first major major documents legitimizing Hitler being in power. Read a book
here is another photo of Catholic resistance to the nazi party
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1243eb No.9768
>>9755
> subset of a population
>Hitler meeting with the highest leaders of the Catholic Church
>small subset
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bbb028 No.9868
>>9740
>pics
what did they mean by this?
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b315c6 No.9877
Excuse me OP but am I reading you right in thinking that you believe it's wrong to oppress unrepentant Jews? Are you aware of the Jews' beliefs regarding Jesus and Mary? Are you aware of what's written in the Talmud regarding Jesus and Mary?
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56ae3f No.9881
‘But, even so, it’s impossible eternally to hold humanity in bondage with lies.
After all, it was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity
was imposed on our peoples by princes who had an alliance of interests with
the shavelings. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion.
I have six divisions of SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion.
It doesn’t prevent them from going to their deaths with serenity in their souls’.
—Hitler’s Table Talk, page 143
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02ef1b No.9883
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02ef1b No.9886
A Catholic priest giving mass to Nazi soldiers before battle
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2e210d No.9887
>>9883
>>9886
How do either of these disqualify what Hitler said?
Look at this image. Does this make Trump a roman catholic?
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02ef1b No.9891
>>9887
Here is another photo of a Catholic priest giving mass to Nazi Stormtroopers
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ee680e No.9928
>>9740
There's nothing wrong with national socialism or Catholicism.
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ee680e No.9929
>>9877
Based and redpilled.
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3731aa No.9938
>>9740
>still thinks the holocaust happened
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6753fd No.9945
>>9928
Romanism is a false pagan religion that damns millions of souls to hell that's something wrong with it
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e89eb9 No.9962
>>9740
>Supporting National Socialism is bad!
I think you're lost, friend.
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2d5cfa No.10159
>>9740
Separation of Church and State – one should not use their religious beliefs to advance political aims because that would be using your faith to meet selfish interests, primarily interests of power. "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." National Socialism is secular and compatible with core Christian tenets. The two work together where the other lacks like yin and yang. A National Socialist state would influence the Church as much as the Church would influence the state, and there would be harmony between the two as long as the state does not intentionally meddle in the affairs of the other.
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027741 No.10181
>>10159
>Separation of Church and State
Was invented by "Enlightenment" degenerates. In medieval Christianity, and in all traditional societies before that, they were inseparable, religion legitimized the state, and the state (army) protected religion. From Vedic India, over ancient Mesopotamia, to the Greco-Romans the hierarchy was always clergy > army > everyone else, though the clergy did not meddle in state affairs. I approve of National Socialism for the most part, but it isn't the be-all-end-all, and if we want to live in accordance with our natures a more refined solution is needed, for me at least. Fact is also, Hitler was an atheist.
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e39c57 No.10205
>>9750
>>9891
So what, because you disagree with their politics then regime change in Germany ought to have been the primary objective of the vatican in your mind? They should risk the ability to reach German Catholics and refuse to carry out one of their primary duties (administering the sacraments) if a German Catholic was also a member of the armed forces (which was often compulsory)? By that logic high ranking members of the church should refuse to ever meet with any government official, and priests would be prohibited from administering mass for any servicemember in the western world; or actually make that the whole world since some combination of usury, sodomy, heresy, and other grievous sins and errors are codified into secular law literally everywhere.
Sounds like you just worship at the altar of worldly power and are more concerned that they pursue your favoured Jewish political goals than if they save people's souls and foster faith in Christ.
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