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THE TRINITIY IS FALSE 01/21/20 (Tue) 01:18:36 a8330c No.12252

John 14:28

All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, “Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.”

The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many f his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father.

Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as ‘son’ are ‘pias’ and ‘paida’ which mean ‘servant,’ or ‘son in the sense of servant.’ These are translated to ‘son’ in reference to Jesus and ‘servant’ in reference to all others in some translations of the Bible. So, consistent with other verses, Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s servant.

Additional problems with Trinity

To a christian, God had to take human form to understand temptation and human suffering, but the concept is not based on any clear words of Jesus. In contrast, God does not need to be tempted and suffer in order to be able to understand and forgive man’s sins, for He is the all knowing Creator of man. This is expressed in the verse:

‘And the Lord said: ‘I have surely seen the affliction of My people that are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their taskmasters; for I know their pains.’ (Exodus 3:7)

God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues to forgive without any assistance. When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere repentance to receive forgiveness. Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before God and be saved is made to all humankind.

‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.’ (Isaiah 45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10)

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01/21/20 (Tue) 02:08:29 812881 No.12254

>>12252

Your op is mostly true but your conclusion is wrong. Jesus did say he came to do the Father's will but in the end of John 8 he claims he is "I AM" who is Yahweh. Yahweh objectively says he is God many times in Bible. Therefore, Jesus is Yahweh is God.

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01/21/20 (Tue) 02:08:30 44253c No.12255

>>12252

You got slammed in your other heretic thread so you just decided to give up and start another, is that it?

>The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many f his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’

This is literally a toddler Sunday school tier mistake

Matthew 1:18 NASB — Now the birth of Jesus fnChrist was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.

Sage because you're wasting our time with excess threads

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01/21/20 (Tue) 11:26:11 598f40 No.12275

>>12252

It is a matter of degree humans are sons by adoption and by being made in his image, Christ by being begotten from all eternity, who is the archetype we are images of.

If you adopt a orphan, he is considered your son but your blood son is a son par excellence.

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01/21/20 (Tue) 16:05:38 a8ae56 No.12283

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>>12252

John 17:5

<Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Can a human or even an angel say that sentence?

>Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as

For anyone that has even taken first year biblical Greek, it is painfully apparent that you do not know Greek. Please stop.

>God had to take human form to understand temptation and human suffering

That is blasphemy. The second person of the Trinity becoming a human had absolutely nothing to do with God "learning" something. God is the source of all knowledge. There are no other sources of knowledge because everything that exists has come about by his creative decree. The only way for him to "learn" something would be if there was some other entity out there creating things.

>God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance

Matt 9:2-7

<And they brought to Him a paralytic lying on a bed. Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralytic, “Take courage, son; your sins are forgiven.” And some of the scribes said to themselves, “This fellow blasphemes.” And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, “Why are you thinking evil in your hearts? Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, and walk’? But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, pick up your bed and go home.” And he got up and went home.

Jesus forgave sins too.

>Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before God and be saved is made to all humankind.

It's not an offer, it's a command from the King. He wasn't asking.

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01/31/20 (Fri) 01:47:29 bd6acb No.12622

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Ry_uEMG-k&t=

The trinity has a prototype in the OT. The OT has a binitarian Godhead which the rabbis wrote out.

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!JEWS.kY0hk 01/31/20 (Fri) 03:18:29 6d017c No.12624

Deuteronomy 6:4, the Shema:

>Hear, O Israel: the Lord is our God, the Lord is one.

Exodus 20:3–7 and Deuteronomy 5:7–11, from the Ten Commandments:

>I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; you shall have no other gods before me.

>You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

>You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

>>12622

No. See above.

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01/31/20 (Fri) 12:51:12 bd6acb No.12630

>>12624

the word in the shema is echad. it does not mean "one" in a rabbinic unitarian sense. maimonides himself in the 12th century deliberately uses yacheed instead, because he know's his own bible doesnt say what he wants it to say. why not give the video a chance? it might change your mind. it wasnt until the 3rd century thr rabbis really started hammering down on multiplicity within the Godhead. they were reacting to christianity.

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01/31/20 (Fri) 20:03:24 2989d5 No.12653

Which Islam website did you copy and paste this from?

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02/01/20 (Sat) 17:53:13 27410d No.12663

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>>12252

so what is your view on the Godhead?

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!JEWS.kY0hk 02/02/20 (Sun) 16:40:29 6d017c No.12688

>>12630

>the word in the shema is echad. it does not mean "one" in a rabbinic unitarian sense. maimonides himself in the 12th century deliberately uses yacheed instead, because he know's his own bible doesnt say what he wants it to say.

I don't think your bible says what you want it to say. Your argument assumes my argument–correctly–because of how obvious it is and how obvious yours isn't.

>why not give the video a chance? it might change your mind. it wasnt until the 3rd century thr rabbis really started hammering down on multiplicity within the Godhead. they were reacting to christianity.

Needless to say I'm not convinced, but I'll watch your video.

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11/10/20 (Tue) 22:32:41 3ffc08 No.12934

>>12624

those quotes have nothing to do with the Binatarian tradition in early Israeli religiosity, don't be dense

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11/10/20 (Tue) 22:33:10 3ffc08 No.12935

>>12688

just stop arguing bro

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