Welcome to /32/, Infinitychan's Psychopolitics board.
Definition
Psychopolitics can be defined as the study and practice of the ways psychology, sociology, and politics interrelate and give rise to one another, and includes (but is not restricted to):
>Ideological Propaganda
>Psychological Warfare
>Cult Psychology
>Media Manipulation
Basically, practices that involve mental coercion. Think anything from "The Manchurian Candidate" to "They Live".
Goals
The main goal of the board is sharing information that will allow us to learn to detect, resist and possibly apply coercive techniques.
The more specific objectives are:
*Analyse media for ideological messages
*Decompose of statements so as to show their true meaning
*Study memes, from their creation to their final effect. Possible experiment with meme creation.
*Discuss the ethics of Psychopolitics
*Develop techniques for resisting coercion
*Find ways for those without media control to wage psychological warfare
*Unveil the inner workings of the media.
Rules
Our constitution is available at https://mega.nz/#!vsUFzDDQ!Gz8f71W06MBisLi5a-B7Lu8f6brmVpfeSnNNPrwRxSQ
Thank you for reading.
This is a repost of the original sticky, posted on September 23rd 2014, post number 1
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nobody™
nobody™ thread (I am not advertising his channel, he removed it so I would have nothing to gain from doing that anyways)
I have downloaded a vast majority of his videos, but I am missing a few of his very early works. If anyone has:
Abyss
Smalltalk+
Worldview Warfare
or any others that were removed over the course of his channel's existence, feel free to post them.
All discussion related to his projects or the subjects they cover is welcome.
"Smart" phones
What's with the popularization of the term "smart phone"? When did it start, and from which source? Is the ascribing of a human characteristic (intelligence) to inanimate technological objects merely a marketing ploy, or is there something more sinister at play?
"Redpill" Images (32 style)
Can we start a thread for screen-caps and charts? Sort of like a typical "Red Pill" thread on /pol/ but of a take-it-or-leave it nature. I tried posting one on /pol/ but it was deleted pretty fast by the dom, who is transparently an arsehole, unlike our "sniffles" who at least pretends to be chill.
Post them if you've got them.
"The Dark Knight"
Republic of Ireland Rules:Persian Mossad: Once you've been fasted, by the Persian Mossad, or the Turks or Germans, the Israelis, you no longer count as your citizenry of home country; you are an Irish Clan, or death, any refusing as Scottish, to be placed on debilitating circumstance, as a traitor.Belgian Waloons: Once the English in town, have gone over to small sayings, and diner cultures, you are no longer permitted, to be sober, and to be found as striking any homosexual, found to small hearths culture, or Arab culture, claiming Irish, instead the business and machine of independent broker. They are to be killed, and pancakes and waffles, are to be refused, in favor of French Toast, all those feeling mother's protectorship, to be rejected and slurred, with brutality stated of their improper childhoods as homosexuals owning pets.Polish Caucasians: If found in presence of a Pole, German Schulzstaffel rules are to be adopted, and if impossible, the Swastika tattoo is to be grasped; otherwise, those of Isaac's blood, the inverted purple triangle, to be placed with Jews, as slavery, not Jewesses, to be removed of clitoris or rights or husband, if having sided with Poland, and vice officers abiding, prostitution to be defended against the morals of Poland, the Down's Syndrome, placed falsely upon Germany, the righteous partner against the Rabbi.Danish Bounty: If the Danelander, demands a poverty education, of black child, the African, being inside family or otherwise, the Southern Confederate is to be rejected, and those emblems of claimed of racist, however in favor of black culture, are to be saluted, as failures, refused of Italian ilk and Danish alliance. Those claiming otherwise, are to be identified as removing the voice, the pedophile to children, as brokers to strip the independent, in favor of government's voice against the common homosexual, the simplified bully; the Viking, the pedophile, to be slain in orders higher per disabled fealty.Israeli German: Those Nazis of the war, to be rejected, in Noble's Trinity, the poor example refusing pedophile to follow act of career, the silent mission to refuse the artist and musician having demanded common act of copyright, and the unique solution hence politics refused for those trying to predict trend therefore backwards devolution in coded mathematics of predictable market to investment. Hence, the Jew, will be Palestine, not Israel, the German, the common Iranian; the slain and refused, for having practiced slavery, of chattel, contract, or migrant.
Nice book list + additions? & Yes elite, no elite?
You got some HQ related material to add to this list?
> Edward Bernays - crystallizing public opinion (i dont recommend his book "propaganda". Its propaganda itself)
> gustave le bon - the crowd
> wilfred trotter - instincts of the herd in war and peace (bought, not read yet)
> noam chomsky - manufacturing consent (reading atm)
> thorstein veblen - the theory of the leisure class (also reading atm)
And currently my fav
> walter lippmann - public opinion
Related but not same
> machiavelli - the prince
> robert greene - 48 laws of power (& art of seduction is good personal marketing shit)
Some of these books share negative attitudes toward the "naive" crowd (public opinion, the theory of the leisure class, crystallizing public opinion, the prince).
Another question I have is if its the elite that are the bad guys, or the naive crowd that misconceive the right priorities? Aka would I want to be elite, or would I want to oppose and come up with a better form of advanced economy & government than capitalism & democracy (fyi read lippman for democracy insights, if you havent already) ?
>Inb4 2 subjects, 1 thread
"Google Is Your Friend"
Can someone pinpoint where the phrase "Google is your friend" originates from? I'm trying to find early mentions on usenet or elsewhere but I am having difficulty.Even those of us who do not feel as though Google is our friend may have this phrase pop into our heads at times. It's a pervasive saying that's been thrown around the internet by savvy nerds for well over a decade. Was this an advertising slogan that was spread through grassroots methods? How and why did it become so popular?
There is something vaguely menacing about it.
http://www.iwdir.net/l/google.php
Speaking of menacing, this article from 1998 mentions the "Don't be evil" unofficial slogan, which is a bit strange itself.
"friend", "do not evil" - evocative, basic words
Exchange
Hey /32/ viewers, i say verily unto you:
If you teach me about something that you're knowledgeable about or have experience with, i'll return to you knowledge of the same topic, but only if you taught me something that i wasn't already aware of.
Send me messages
sosalekashae@protonmail.com
Saul Griffiths
Saul Griffiths (every time) is the person behind the Electrify Everything movement. The Electrify Everything has infiltrated Australia as well. He has met Obama which makes me speculate that he is a CIA hack. Has anyone done a deep dive on this guy?
Much appreciation for any information
https://discord.gg/e8rKmG
Syzygy is an infamous community for the spookily inclined with paranormal, occult, religious, and philosophic leanings. We were birthed off of 4chan and follow a 4chan ethos of minimal rules and excessive shitposting while still being a place for the occultists and mystics of discord to come and unwind. Beware, for the server is guided by our own egregore, Syz, he's a friendly egregore but chaotic and maybe a little bit mentally ill. Community events include horror movie nights, group rituals, and guided meditations as well as the unoffical community events like inter-server drama, lynch mobs, and voice chat bloodsports. So come on down, light a candle, bring your , and get /comfy/ with us.
Massive Treasure Trove /pdf/ Dump For /32/
Check out my database I opened up to make public as a give back for all the many years I've spent lurking and scraping pdfs from chan boards. Hope you like it!
If you like reading about memetic warfare, psychological operations, psychotronic weapons research and development, social engineering, intelligence and counter-intelligence operations, information warfare, tradecraft, mind control & trauma based conditioning, remote viewing, occult/esoteric/magick, military/cia manuals, etc.
Practical Techniques
What are some practical techniques of suggestion to program/deprogram myself? What are some practical techniques to influence others in face to face or written communication? Is it possible to build a mental firewall to protect myself to a degree?
For example, I would like to be able to program myself so that upon a certain trigger my memory would be greatly enhanced or to be able to slip instantly into a selected emotional state.
I already use a keyword and tactile feedback to quickly slip into a theta state when meditating. I did this by mentally writing in pseudo-code a "program" every time I started meditating. Now I can just call the program name and I don't have to imagine all the "code".
However, I assume that a lot of people on this board must have more effective techniques for controlling themselves and others.
I am aware of NLP and hypnosis, but searching for such information produces huge amounts of nonsense and snake-oil. The stuff that seems legit is mostly theoretical and doesn't give actual exercises to perform.
If this is not /32/ material, apologies in advance, though I would appreciate directions as to where to ask.
Trackers/Health parameter devices
Hi /32/, I'm personally involved in a research program that runs for 6 months that involves using one of these Oura rings to track a number of things from activity level to sleep activity. I've been involved for a few weeks now, and over the past couple days I've been getting more and more concerned with how much information is "out there" about me. Does anyone have any info on exactly how the info that these trackers collect is used? Thanks.
/32/otericist recruitment general
https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/28139982
halfchan thread regarding psych warfare etc. If somebody is willing to post on halfchan (maybe got an anon premium account you can access from behind tor?) we could (you) some of the more promising posters with an invitation. (in future threads like this.)
A few stand out. Funny how directly size of the text someone posts correlates with having something intelligent to say.
This relates to the topic breached i-that-t: meow wars could be much more effective. Gen text w/ definite sense in segments and was clearly on topic, but is difficult to parse and ultimately uninspired, thoughtless machine drivel. Simulate the experience of "not getting it" but for people who are legitimately not lacking any intellectual capacity.
I believe I will start posting on this board once a week. Obviously I don't want to burn away all the old threads especially before I have read them all, so I will necropost a lot and only make new threads when I have a very broad category of our martial art to discuss. This thread is dedicated to our internal group dynamics.
I have a friend who will be stopping by later tonight or next week. They will be defining the reasons why people of our persuasion might utilize an anonymous public forum to discuss methodologies that are rightfully the most proprietary of crown jewels.
Alleviation of this apparent paradox will abet future collaboration.
In the meanwhile, it is wise to think of projects that you want to see completed for their own sake.
That third model of its type that we all probably have our eyes on, kind of shameful that it requires an application PI key application to access. If you read about projects like Clever hans, it is possible to replicate models by comprehending how to dispense queries that probe their boundaries between deciding one thing or another. If we can access some capabilities anonymously/normally by secondary services that themselves possess, we could harvest decision boundaries and replicate the tech for ourselves. I do not know enough about the details of GPT3 to know if this is very feasible compared to directly training our own versions.
Thoughts on Donald Trump
What are /32/s thoughts on Donald Trump?
Personally, I find him suspicious. Before him people in the chans and just 'certain' kind of people who questioned the whole political system had no hope. But then comes this guy and now suddenly a huge part of these groups of people get behind this new political figure.
I think he could be legit, but when I remember how it all used to be in the pre-Trump era, like I said, I find him suspicious. To be more specific I wonder if it's all just a show planned by you-know-who to polarize society. Maybe they want to persuade this more 'awaken' politically groups of people to then let them down hugely and ruin their credibility (and their own faith in their capacity of interpreting reality)?
Could this all be a show? The media hates him, but they do talk about him. They give him a platform. Maybe they are using people's mistrust of the media to persuade them into liking Trump?
Perhaps I'm being too paranoid but that's basically my thoughts...
Also, regardless of him being legit or not, I think analyzing and comparing this post-Trump era with the pre-Trump era could be interesting as well.
Social Engineering through 90s Pop Music
Am I the only one who occasionally revisits music videos from the 90s? It's an incredible insight and acts like forecast considering contemporary culture's current psycho-social milieu.
The Spice Girls are often very transparent in their agendas, the lyrics are loaded with sexual innuendo while instilling the importance of socialization, acceptance, into a particular set, presumably for organization's sake, each spice is an archetype. But, it's not so much the lyrics I'm eager to discuss, it's more-so the content of 90s pop music videos.
>0:05
In the very beginning, they can be seen harassing some homeless people on the streets.
>0:25
They later come to harass what appears to be a successful nuclear family.
>0:40
What's odd, next they run into the hotel, a random man with a walkie-talkie clipped on his backside (film crew?) is stopped by security while they run in to cause trouble.
>1:20
Green spice kisses man in green? Some sort of color coding pairing thing?
>2:25
Red spice advances on woman in white, practically molesting her.
>2:40
Priest has his hat pulls off, what's most interesting is that the video is slowed here.
>2:50
>Cross-dressing males, this is rather subliminal, and possibly at 3:16, far right sitting?
Anyway, there's many examples like this, please share them if you have any.
In what ways are leftists better than rightists and vice versa?
There's a debate coming up and although I'm a pro leftist on most stances, I'm thinking of joining the rightists' gang for the thrill of it. I'd love to hear some off the common arguments and examples to widen my views.
Thank you anons for your time.
Does developmental psychology explain society's problems?
I learned about psychosocial development stages like "Initiative vs Guilt" and I realized that might explain a few things. Maybe the sheer amount of people who suffered from that sort of thing scaled up the issue when they all participated in politics.
Sheltered kids aren't as confident and can often only see the negatives in new ventures, which might be why change is so slow to come and why we have such a hard time agreeing on anything in politics. Because we scare ourselves out of considering possible solutions with the negatives.
I guess Obama wasn't the only one that put kids in cages.
Jordan Peterson & Deepfakes
"Jordan Peterson" just released a video about his recovery, from deathly illness due to addiction to mind control pills. I am 99% sure that it's a deepfake, and it shocks me that nobody in the comment section acknowledges this.
Some may also remember a short-lived site that would generate deepfakes specifically of Jordan Peterson; it was memed briefly, before being terminated due to "abuse" or some other such vaguery.
Crude example here: https://youtu.be/SoXsbD0j70c
This parody honestly sounds more authentic to me than the embedded "real" Peterson
What do all 0 of you think? Jordan Peterson is one of the most recognizable "alt-right neo-nazi" figures according to the modern left, while most /pol/ users condemn him for not being "nazi" enough. Many people claim that he helped change their lives profoundly. The JP persona obviously holds a lot of sway, but what exactly is the motivation behind faking this video?
Do you think Snowden is part of a limited hangout operation?
What do you guys think about the idea that the government is using Snowden's leaks as a means to distract or otherwise coerce the population into thinking a certain way?
Do you feel he is 100% legitimate or do you think he is possibly a part of a larger operation?
32 type jobs
Does anyone on this board have a /32/ job?
Maybe in PR, advertising or marketing.
I've always been interested in this boards topic, but only up until recently felt the need to turn that passion into a career/job. I'm thinking of possibly becoming a copywriter or content strategist.
Fake Controversy as Marketing (Corporate shitposting)
Its gotten old when a fucking nigger named "Chance the Rapper" manages to point it out, is anyone else here tired of companies attempting to troll the public with balatantly obvious bait like bloody kent state sweaters and dressing up niglets in sweaters that say "monkey" so that they get their dumb shitty name blasted on (((newsmedia))) for a week straight?
Eigenvector parasitic organism
Transmits information and the mushroom theory be more efficient without having work and was finding days later this week to the bassline is really Those of a salt and pepper to taste s the call for the last two years of being on a zombie youd be pretty good to see you in a few minutes
music with ideas
https://soundcloud.com/pythia-481421745/pythia-you-cant-subtract-from
anti-materialism, anti-modernism, anti-subjectivism
The works of Miles Mathis
I hope /32/ are familiar with Miles Mathis, the classical artist/thinker and unofficial premier of the truth movement [http://mileswmathis dot com/updates.html]. His articles are essential reading, they pick up what the truth movement has largely missed and they cite much verifiable evidence. Please take a look at the link and leaf through to see what takes your interest. You won't regret reading.
comeee learrnnn aboutt thee apocallyyppsee
meaning the unveiling.
you live inside of the earth. outer space is inner space. the milky way is just a band splitting the seam in the celestial sphere at 60 degrees like a mother's swaddling band.
there are multiple spheres of glass enveloping inner space diverginig light in a spectrum gradually from zenith to lift up from the earth parralel to the terminator to reconverge with the center of heaven like a circuit.
this is what lifts up your line of sight, gradually clips boats and bridges, and occluding the land mass curving upwards.
your line of sight is hitting the underside of clouds and converging with the center of heaven within every degree within 180 degrees of your fov.
the celestial sphere is therefore figuratively split in two by your line of sight refracting through multiple polarizing bowed spherical glass prisms meaning the half of the celestial sphere visible by your fov compresses/inverts around your 180 degree fov over the optical edit of the horizonal crease.
the sun is going to stop in the sky dissolving the heavens with fervent heat. and the central octahedron is going to descend to the south pole to marry and replenish earth. replacing the omega beta wave moon phases reflecting the light of the sun on a curve through multiple polarizing bowed spherical glass prisms enveloping inner space. the circuit and curtain of heaven will break and you will be able to see the land mass curve upwards once again. hence the unveiling of the prison cell earth you live in.
The shepherd is going to corrall his people over martial law before this happens. get ready. this is what donald trump, q anon, and majestic 12 are working to expose after incriminating the dems as being unable to compromise on border security.
They have precognition and forsight of judgement to come.
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Becoming a Super Villain
So, a few years ago I discovered the work of Anton LaVey. He had truly granted me some perspective on the true difference between good and evil I had always felt in whatever I have instead of a heart. Evil is nothing more than indulgence in carnal desires, giving into human nature and satisfying the urge to prioritize one's desires. Good is nothing less than horrific dogma drilled into the minds of people from an early age, demanding sacrifice of everything from finances to bodily health for the sake of strangers.
As such I embraced evil, and was more than willing to peacefully progress through my life reaping the rewards of living with the Satanic principles. Unfortunately, I couldn't do it. The number one Satanic sin was ignorance for a reason, and the injustice resulting from so much of it is nothing short of rage inducing.
Satan teaches that in order for things to happen you have to make it happen, and so I've given into the role I've felt the most comfortable playing since I was a child: the villain.
I'm going to become a super villain, starting from the ground up. My plan is to liberate as much of the world as possible from the different incarnations of puritanism and cultural Marxism that hold people back from doing great things and living up to their fullest potential. I've got the basic lay out for my plan, but it will need to be altered frequently based on what events actually unfold as time goes on.
I've collected a lot Paladin-Press reading material as well as practical information from /k/ info libraries and the Parazite Virtual Terrorist Training Camp. I'm also currently reading some psychological manipulation eBooks from the /32/ library which I appreciate very much by the way. I currently plan using these to acquire a couple of henchman and arming them to do some decent thievery to fund the next level of the operation.
So, if anyone wishes to contribute their thoughts or otherwise to the effort, or maybe has their own dream of overthrowing world governments, feel free to contribute. I plan on updating with progress and maybe giving some real world reviews of the books in the various action libraries I'm drawing from.
Wish me luck.
Controlling the window of discussion
So I'm sure many of you are familiar with the concept of the Overton window:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
I believe /pol/ has the potential to shift the Overton window to the right. There's a delicate balance between being so extreme no one listens, and being just entertaining enough to keep people coming back. I believe it's in our best interest to keep /pol/ as politically incorrect as possible, and exporting their irreverence to other sites. Normally I'm a relatively reasonable pragmatist, but on /pol/ I'm definitely an antisemitic NatSoc. It's not just a "character", it's something I enjoy venting with emotionally.
I see potential in keeping the "far right" as far right as possible so the less far right looks closer to acceptable in the public eye. Any watering down of the movement should be looked down upon, even if it means more mainstream acceptance. This also means continuously ridiculing the far left. Tumblrisms and related things are great for this. If "liberal" invokes the image of an oversensitive otherkin teenager, it'll shift the public's opinion in our favor.
Does anyone else see a way to exploit this? Feminism already jumped the shark last year, and it looks like this year will be the year the racial grievance industry jumps the shark.
Architecture
What effects does architecture have on society?
I saw the thought somewhere, considering the modern architecture in Europe, being a means to (literally) deconstruct the European identity. Is this valid? So much modern-architecture is garish, often vain grandiose expression, gimmicky, void of utility, and its of the quality no matter where you are.
Pictured: Cenotaph for Newton by Étienne louis boullée
Religion
What role do religions play in matters of manipulation and coercion?
Most anti-religious individuals oppose them because they are supposedly always based on deception of the common people by individuals who hold authority in that belief system (priests and such). The presence of unquestioning dogma forces individuals to change their perceptions of reality in order to fit the established belief system, or is that an unrealistic generalization propagated by the anti-religious? Thomas Aquinas was not against the use of reason to reach conclusions, but in his views reason should always be submitted to faith, and if a rational conclusion conflicted with a revelation of faith, it should be discarded.
On the other hand there are religions and religious beliefs that do not preach a submission to earthly authority, or that do not have a strict dogma. Could these paradigms have any positive effect on people, especially when it came to protecting them from manipulation? Could belief from non-rational sources provide the individual with a stable and permanent point of reference that helps them more than it hinders them?
I think these are questions worth questioning, and I hope this is the right place to ask them.
Audio normalization
Does anyone here know if normalizing audio has any subversive mental effects on the listener?
German state run Television movies and a good number of german dubs of hollykike shit seem to have greatly castrated the audible range of frequencies in their audio tracks.
I'm not sure if it's the same kind of faggotry used by the (((Music Industry))) but all the voices, music and sound effects in prerecorded media shown on channels like ARD and ZDF feel unnaturally loud and carry this weird white(?) noise.
It leads to weird shit where other sounds/sound effects like a door closing, footsteps, chair noises, and worst of all, eating noises*god do I wanna gas the kikes who produce this shit with taxpayer money have the same or greater volume as the characters talking onscreen, the music does it too.
Throughout these movies every sound no matter how insignificant blares in and out at full blast, it pains the brain and makes one wonder wether or not the entire thing is a shitty dub when it in all likelihood is not.
Oddly enough low-budget documentaries and news reports do not do this, they sound fairly natural all things considered.
Video Media as Mind Kontrol: the problem and how to address it
This video compiles several documentary and fiction sources for redpills on psychological warfare used on civilians that this community has frequently referenced.
It's long though, and could use better delivery.
What similar content, or what additional strategies, could inspire better videos along similar lines?
/tech/ Propaganda for Normies
What are some good phrases to catch the interest of normies and get them interested in technological issues? For instance, data privacy and free software?
I think the FSF does a good job of coming up with catchphrases, but that's probably solely the work of rms. "Defective by Design" and "Digital Restrictions Management" strike me as two effective phrases. In addition to libre and free software. What about degoogle? That tells people immediately what they do in order to practice better data privacy. Anyone have ideas similar to this? I feel that degoogle is too specific to a particular company, but it works as well.
Related and Favorite Boards
If we hope to attract more users to our board it is only fair that we direct our users to other interesting boards which may interest them.
Let's use this board to post boards we like and/or think are related to /32/ (remember to add ">>>" in front of the name to link it directly).
All of the political boards are related to ours in some way, but the main one tends to bee to rigid in its perspective. Interesting alternatives are:
>>>/liberty/, which focuses on non-authoritarian politics, and
>>>/midpol/, that tries to find a balanced position to counter the bias that all of the others have.
Some boards that touch on topics which overlap with ours are:
>>>/his/ for historical discussion of any age. The users are very knowledgeable and seem happy to help those who know less than them.
>>>/bmw/ which could be called a place for applied psychopolitics, with a very obvious right-wing tendency.
>>>/phil/ discusses philosophy, and is populated by intelligent individuals who enjoy learning and thinking.
>>>/histories/ has been mentioned here before. It has a general approach towards humanities and social sciences.
If you can think of any other, be sure to let us know by posting here.
Maybe the Sniffles can sticky this thread
Unconscious symbols
I want to have a thread about hidden symbols in images. There are two types of symbols that could be put in an image. Secret symbols, like those in freemasonry. To understand their meaning you have to read up on them. Or symbols that have no secret meaning, but are there simply because they speak to us at a subconscious level. Whether you've heard of them or not, they affect you. This thread will be about the latter kind.
This first image is from another thread here and I think it is simply wonderful. The (not so) hidden symbol is of course the eye you see in the shadow of the lamp. Eyes have been found to be powerful symbols[1][2]. Yet it is still somewhat deniable, in that the symbol is formed by the shadow, and shadows are usually not the main point of an image, literally taking on a background role compared to the actual objects. In this case the objects would be the lamp, the guitar and the small table. The second image doesn't contain a symbol but rather is visually ambiguous as a whole on first glance.
That is the end of my knowledge and I would like to ask if /32/ knows anything more? To what extent can hidden symbols be used to manipulate? And is it commonly done?
[1]https://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/daniel.nettle/ernestjonesnettlebateson.pdf (Effects of eye images on everyday cooperative behavior: a field experiment)
[2]http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0082055 (Do Images of ‘Watching Eyes’ Induce Behaviour That Is More Pro-Social or More Normative? A Field Experiment on Littering)
The unexpected rise of the Alt-Right
Ever since Hillary brought up the Alt-Right, the media began criticizing this hateful group, in a way that reminds me of how they talk about Trump in some aspects. Desperate attempt to make your rival look bad or deliberate attempt to shine a light on a specific group that was widely unknown to the public? tbh my psyop detectors are ringing fams. What does this mean?
Requesting career advice
Hello. I was diagnosed with HFA when I was young and I have been afflicted with a significant amount of soft-kill (vaccines, aerosol injections, fluoride etc...) I was also subject to constant stress while I was forced through the public school system and found myself in sort of unconscious drift while attending university with no real idea what I wanted to do because I had little sense of identity. A few months ago I realized how corrupt the universities now are and I left because I wished to avoid aggregating more debt, I realized that the doctors were being trained to kill people, and because I wanted to reduce my exposure to cell radiation. Since then my health has improved through supplementation and therapy and I have begun to recover my sense of identity. I wish to enlist in the military as either an intelligence analyst or psychological operator of some sort and I believe that I would be good at these rolls because I basically reinvented 4th generation warfare while at the university despite it not being at all pertinent to the classes I was taking. I am eager to be of some use and think that the basic training may help pull me out of my extreme introversion; however, I have several concerns that I hope someone on this board will be able to advise me on. My primary concern is qualifying for top secret clearance. I have no criminal record however I have partaken in the use of cannabis and psychedelics which ultimately had a positive effect on my development, but there is evidence of this substance use on my old facebook page which I presume will be analyzed. My next concern being whether I can trust the military right now or whether I should wait and enlist once this big corruption purge kicks off. I really don’t want to end up fighting the Russians when it is clearly the communist Chinese, technocrats, and bankers who are spreading cancer everywhere. My final concern is that I am unsure how to prepare myself for the mathematics requirements as I am well out of practice in the subject and would like to know how it will be applied on the asvab and in practice. Any other pertinent advice will also be appreciated.
ITT: Important documentaries.
"Counter-Intelligence"
Watch online: http://metanoia-films.org/counter-intelligence/
>"Counter-Intelligence" shines sunlight into the darkest crevices of empire run amok. The film vividly exposes a monstrous and unconstitutional "deep state" in which multiple competing chains of command -- all but one illegal -- hijack government capabilities and taxpayer funds to commit crimes against humanity in our name.
Free Them
As predicted the obvious mass of election spam is invading /pol/It will continue escalating and intensifying until after the inauguration about spring in 2017
Democracy is a scam. Ballots of the commoners are meaningless and not used to select the next politicians.
>Yeah we know the politicians are bought out and guys like Ron Paul are smeared!
No. No one is elected by voters voting. Why would those in power leave their hegemony vulnerable to popular caprices?
Votes are suggestions at best. In the modern digitized age they are used for datamining purposes so that you feel good about the generic politicians that are set up as the puppets for international interests.
The people swaying your governments, currencies, academia and general afflictions already control money printing in all the major and secondary world powers. They have no need of "earning" money or getting more money. Stock market crashes are designed to rob everyone else, so is inflation.
Votes will never free the slaves, never have.
Free men shed blood to throw off the shackles, the strong thrive.
Don't get bogged down in discussions about who is voting for whom or the personal celebrity gossips about politicians.
You want changes in the community? Talk and organize with your neighbors.
You want healthy family? Build and nurture it. It is your job, the government can't instill good values on your behalf.
What do you believe to be the underlying reasons for SJWism? Or garden-variety conservatism?
Is it sexual?
Is it, more generally, the alpha/beta spectrum?
The allure of rebellion?
One's relation to their parents?
Is it simply natural considering an upbringing which instills no values/particular values?
Or is it tribal thinking, with people simply choosing whichever group they find most appealing in a much more visceral way?
Questions, questions. An awfully broad subject - to which there probably isn't a simple answer - and maybe humans aren't quite so boring, with a different answer for everyone. Wouldn't that be nice?
And then there are, of course, many many people who have switched modes of thought entirely.
Simple assertions, drawn out narratives, links, whatever you've got.
Example of Memetics?
Found something interesting, I think it’s a good example of memetic warfare in the wild. The current mainstream economic narrative is that a collapsing China is causing negative contagion to the U.S markets.
I found these posts on reddit that all show a comparison between clean air over a western allies country and smog over China. The same image has been posted in the past with very similar titles, see below -
Submitted 4 years ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ntjbz/took_off_from_australia_landed_in_china/
Submitted 3 years ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/15ptce/took_off_in_england_landed_in_china/
Submitted 2 months ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3v55qv/departing_australia_arriving_in_china/
Submitted 3 hours ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/44rx7t/took_off_from_australia_landed_in_china/
And this is the most interesting one, it’s got the same title but a different image. The image is a comic, the final speech bubble says: “And that 4chan is where the devil makes potty”. Aside from none of it being funny or making sense, you end up reaching this last speech bubble and none of it really making much sense other than, perhaps, to connect this negative feeling (“4chan”, “devil”, “potty”) with the idea of the concept of China.
Submitted 3 hours ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/44rxlo/took_off_from_australia_landed_in_china/
These users have only ever posted this single thing to reddit. i.e if they posted under the same user it would be too easy to trace these posts with similar names over time being pushed and connect some dots. Reddit users are in disarray.
This is the most popular post within the comments and it's top response:
[–]Lufernaal 11 points 3 hours ago
Why does this post and this have the same title?
[–]MouthJob 5 points 3 hours ago
It's fucking confusing, right?
One post even told them:
"Must be some kind of automatic reposting bot that got mixed up."
An automatic bot posted this link in the comments that fortunately does a reverse image search across reddit. The bot identifies spam bots for users:
http://karmadecay.com/results/u6656693
Anyway I think it’s a good example of isolated memetic magic in the wild. Reddit users are good laboratory rats.
Fighting PSYOPs - Historical Examples
Imagine that you live in a nation where the elite have no real allegiance to the people. So they import a new people and then manipulate them to subvert the original population.
How would you fight this? Are there good historical examples showing a native population that fought back and won?
>I'll probably expand or re-frame my question because I'm not sure I phrased that correctly but good enough for now. Pic unrelated
From the /pol/ thread:
The problem is that we will always be reacting, and never forming the base reality. For any of this to work, we'd need to completely IGNORE the mainstream. Provide an alternate version of events whilst not screaming, "LOOK GUYS THIS IS AN ALTERNATE VERSION OF EVENTS".
Setting forth the notion that something is alternate only enforces the notion that what it's alternate from is legitimate.
Propaganda is the executive branch of the invisible government
What does it mean!?
Can someone torture out an exact meaning of this quote? Is he talking about the PR industry or propaganda itself? The executive branch "makes sure the laws are obeyed" is one definition I've found, and in America it's composed of the president, departments and agencies*. If PR is the executive branch of invisible government, does that mean the PR heads are presidents of an invisible government?
*according to http://www.usconsulate.org.hk/pas/kids/executive.htm
The Banality of Mind Control
http://anolen.com/2014/11/16/the-banality-of-mind-control/
"What if all those MK ULTRA files that Helms burned were about shuffling the boards of media companies; or working with the Department of Education; or buying recording studios; or employing advertizing consultants? What if MK ULTRA was about the CIA turning itself into the best-organized political lobby ever?
Zimbardo and Andersen’s paper was first published in Cultic Studies Journal, 1984, Volume 1, Number 2. Philip Zimbardo himself was one of the National Academy of Science’s personal sources for their biography of Carl Hovland (Zimbardo was a student of Hovland’s before taking a professorship at Stanford in 1968); Zimbardo was also president of the American Psycological Association, an organization which gets a lot of (bad) play in the MK ULTRA saga. (The APA is currently involved in an ongoing CIA-torture scandal.)
On Resisting Social Influence is an abridged version of a report Zimbardo and Andersen did for the Office of Naval Research, a US military/private industry collaborative organization . (The Office of Naval Research funded Zimbardo’s famous– and creepy– ‘Prison Experiment‘ in 1971, shortly after he got his first professorship. It seems Zimbardo was well connected with the military from day one.)
I’m not saying Philip Zimbardo is necessarily a CIA asset himself, but he learned and worked in their milieu, so I think it would be prudent to carefully consider Zimbardo’s observations on ‘mind control':
Formidable quests to gain control over the human mind have often employed exotic technology. Exquisite torture devices, electroshock therapy, mind altering drugs, hypnosis, and sensory deprivation have all been used to get targeted persons to do the bidding of various agents and agencies of control. Indeed, these methods carry enough wallop to distort and sometimes destroy the mind’s normal functioning. But they are not adequate for the task of reliably directing behavior through specific scenarios as designated by would-be manipulators.
John Marks’ expose of the CIA’s secret mind control program (see The Search for the “Manchurian Candidate”) suggests that no foolproof way of “brainwashing” another person has ever been found. After a decade of intensive, costly research into the technology of such control, the CIA’s MKULTRA program was deemed a failure. Covert operations could claim little more than being capable of turning unsuspecting victims into “vegetables.”
Effective mind control exists in most mundane aspects of human existence: the inner pressures to be bonded to other people, the power of group norms to influence behavior, the force of social rewards (such as smiles, praise, a gentle touch). We influence one another, intentionally or unintentionally, using the most basic principles of social psychology, motivation, and social learning. It is people in convincing social situations and not gadgets or gimmicks that control the minds of other people. The more worried we are about being seen as ignorant, uncultured, untalented or boring, and the more ambiguous the events are that are to be evaluated, the more likely we are to take on the beliefs of those around us in order to avoid being rejected by them.
What Zimbardo appears to be saying is that social pressures like ‘political correctness’ are a form of mind control. Could it be that the CIA found obscure strands of Mexican hallucenogenic mushrooms but missed age-old knowledge of crowd psychology? I think not.
I do think that Zimbardo is in an excellent position to give us some insight into what the destroyed MK ULTRA documents might have contained. In this post I’m going to summarize Zimbardo and Andresen’s paper and offer some suggestions– not proof, but suggestions– on how these manipulative practices might be used now."
Global economic collapse
Would trying to hasten the global economic collapse be beneficial for us?We know that within the current paradigm and societal structure, it is incredibly easy for the elite to manipulate the masses towards their goals.
This must surely become more difficult in times of chaos. Too many variables to consider, and too many problems to deal with.
On the other hand, collapse might be part of their goal, and might even be deliberately orchestrated in order to bring in the next stage of their plan.
Whatever the case - they are certainly preparing for a collapse (militarization of police, etc), and with a global economy that relies on infinite growth, using finite resources, we must logically eventually reach stagnation and collapse.
It should have happened in the 2008 financial crisis, but they bought more time with the bank bailouts.
So should we hasten it? Perhaps the sooner the better?
Uniting "Have Nots" against "Enemy Target""
Common themes of:
Socialism (poor, uneducated), Christianity (meek, sick, lost, helpless), Political Correctness/mass immigration ("minorities"), University campus SJW (poor kids with little power that are easy to confuse/brainwash), Feminism (weaker sex), Black Lives Matter (uneducated/poor), Rules for Radicals book (attached), etc
Are all movements that gather and unite masses of poor, uneducated, often stupid "Have Nots" and set them to work against existing power structures / healthy, strong, rich, intelligent segments of society.
Another interesting common thread to these is that almost all are originated from a Jewish source. Whether it be Saul (st Paul re-writing what Jesus meant for his own ends), or Saul the author of "Rules for Radicals", or George Soros funding/organizing: black lives matter and mass immigration to EU, etc
And none of these movements are active in Israel.
Wanting your ideas and constructive criticism.
Constant War keeps common Men under Control
World Banks Dominate while pretend enemies "war"
He looks up in admiration at a portrait of Big Brother, Winston feels he has at least ended his "stubborn, self-willed exile" from the love of Big Brother
So do you believe the official narratives? That Russia is at some perpetual war with USA and that shifting alliances are real and that the wars are real?
Why do you think police get militarized and there is so much research into controlling peoples minds but so little curing common diseases?
Well of course those ppm of toxins that destroy your body are for your safety. Nevermind that these toxins could be removed to 0ppb in your food and water but are not.
It isn't even about profit. Why would it be? Who creates the money and prints the debt? Anyway. Here is some news about Oceania.
US military officials are loudly bragging about their latest initiative to reassure Europe, a program that was called, unlikely enough, the European Reeassurance Initiative (ERI), and which to this point has involved moving a lot of sand around, and building some roads in rural parts of several Baltic states.
ERI is nominally the latest in a long line of programs the Obama Administration has announced to “combat Russian aggression,” and which are meant to build up nations along the Russian frontier to support massive US military deployments to spite Russia.
The plans are often ill-conceived, as the US idea to deploy huge amounts of tanks into several of these countries ran into problems because the tanks are stored in swampy areas where the mud makes it virtually impossible to drive a tank, and NATO has taken to having to “ship” those tanks back and forth to their various anti-Russia photo ops.
In this regard, ERI is trying to be the solution for the military-created problem, hauling thousands of tonnes of sand into those swampy areas to build “tank trails” that they can drive the tanks through, along with roads to support the infrastructure for the NATO operations in the area.
The army sees it as a win-win, as the pricey construction involves the use of contractors, and is subsequently popular with the host countries, and also lets the army deploy people to not-war-zones, which is “good for morale.”
That the whole program is make-work to “reassure” European nations about the US commitment to take part in some unlikely, disastrous future war with Russia is just gravy for them, as the Pentagon sees talk of a new Cold War as a great excuse to push for bigger budgets, and if they can’t physically position forces in the Baltic swamps for this scheme, they’ll build up the swamps so they can.
The Marine Corps' mission in Eastern Europe is rapidly evolving in the face of Russian saber-rattling, according to the outgoing commander of the Romania-based Black Sea Rotational Force.
(a)science
https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article-lookup/doi/10.1093/mnras/stx517
TL;DR
http://inhabitat.com/scientists-capture-first-ever-image-of-dark-matter-web-that-connects-galaxies/
But wait, didn't some one already have a theory that predicted something quite similar without stooping to make up some imaginary form of matter to cover an abyss in logic?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkeland_current
Obviously there are some gaping logical flaws in astronomy, mostly related to the assumption of the 'principle of uniformitarianism'.
I think at a certain point you have to admit that 'academic' science exists solely to suppress all innovation that can't be completely controlled by the present dominant forces of the economy.
Anyone else have any interesting examples?
Disinformation and the problem of the end results of postmodern thinking
So it seems at this stage that all groups are vulnerable to retreating to their little ponds seeking only what truth suits them. Our media and information networks seem now designed to favour this. Fake news is not something only the left or right contend with. Disinformation shows astonishing prevalence in the current setting a news headline dropped may contain no truth whatsoever and may still yield reaction from whatever groups may be targeted. All groups are vulnerable /pol/'s memetics though advanced at propagation are rather limited in terms of truth detection however since they particularly 8ch's particular subset of it have some goal in mind this seems less able to disrupt them unless they are managed in such a way as to yield the desired results such as in the recent doxxings 8pol was involved in versus the right stuff. Their findings invariably brought them some vindication but in the process set back their goals somewhat too potentially. That said my concern is a question to all of those who remain here. How does one parse out disinformation to acquire the truth no matter how troublesome to any narrative set including /pol/'s. How does one see what is true and what must be rejected as simply a convenient lie given that we exist in a post modernist nightmarescape of subjectivity and relativism.
Anon's Guide to Politics
Absolute guide to understanding politics
This guide will set you up so that you can by yourself learn more about politics.
Theology>Philosophy>Politics
This is the basic triarchial process. Any dogma or anti-dogma becomes rationalized philosophy, which then is applied into culture and then politics. Politics are applied philosophy. Philosophy is rationalized theology. Not all theology is converted into philosophy, just as not all philosophy is converted into politics. But they sure are each other's foundations.
Now there are some demarcations you can follow. There are two basic clasifications which, confusingly enough, run parallel. One clasification is horizontallity (theology, philosophy, politics) and the other classification is vertical (metaphysics, antimetaphysis and ametaphysics).
First, it all starts with theology. Theology is how man interprets its being and self and its relation with what is outside himself. There are two basic metaphysic "schools": traditional trascendentalism, and gnosticism.
Traditional trascendentalism is zoroastrianism, traditional catholicism/orthodoxy, and shi'a muslims. They believe that as there is a creation, there must be a creator god. You are saved by a combination of faith and good deeds.
The other theological school is gnosticism, which has the widest array of theological and spiritual beliefs. Hinduism, Egyptian/Baal/babilonic sun worship, Wahabi islam, New Age, Judaism, Freemasonry, Illuminism, Neopaganism and a myriad of different modern cults/sects.
The key difference between both is that gnosticism believes salvation does not come from god, but from mankind itself. In gnosticism the supreme being (person) is antagonized by the demiurge (god) which must both fight each other. God wants to submit Man, and Man must fight God to obtain their freedom, to uncover what they knew as GNOSIS, the ultimate form of knowledge which could make Man no longer need God, because they would be a sort of god themselves with the help of supreme knowledge.
But not everything is theological and suprarrational, and while the ancient religions and the mysticism in new age stuff assumes there are things above rationality (suprarrationality) and the existence of a god or deities, there is a non-theological approach which is antimetaphysics. Antimetaphyiscs are rational, and do not believe in things outside science or rationality. It is modernism. It is centered on mankind, science and its material woes. They reject the study of the outside, but rather focus on the inside and rationality of man as a sentient being. The core of a modernists is agnosticism: they follow the basic premise of gnosticism that mankind saves itself, but it rationalizes it and removes the mystical aspects as it feels only rational knowledge can save mankind and everything outside rationality is fake.
Then finally, in rejection of anti-metaphyiscs and modernism there lies the fairly new field of AMETAPHYSICS: the rejection of all grand myths and beliefs. An antimetaphysic is postmodern. This school rejects both the metaphyiscal suprrationality of things beyond mens understanding and also rejects antimetaphysical rational explanations of the universe. Instead they believe in non-understanding of the universe, that truth lies in the eye of the beholder, and that any establishment of a universal truth or relation with one's inner self and the outside world is a one-sided imposition of thought. Therefore, a postmodern believes that every persona has its own version of reality, "everyone is right at the same time" which must not be interfered by outside influences, because it will deny the liberty of man. So it is irrational in itself.
Finally, I will list the diferent subdivisions of anti-metaphyisical thought so you can make your own reaseach. Note that Gnosticism is sincretic, so that sometimes it seems to be directly related with some antimetaphiysical rationalist doctrines, only to finally show its internal incoherence with the movement it seeks to parasite. A great example is freemasonry, seems rational but is not.
Renaissance
Rationalism
Empiricism
Romanticism
Idealism
Positivism
Naturalism
Materialism
Utilitarianism
Pragmatism
Vitalism
Voluntarism
Decadence Theory:
a) Theory of Degeneracy
b) Theory of Racial Pessimism
c) Theory of Historical Pessimism
d) Theory of Cultural Decline
Fenomenology
Existentialism
Estructuralism
and finally:
Deconstructionism (which leads directly to avoiding antimetaphyisics all together and becoming ametaphyisics)
Therefore, when you see colliding narratives in the media remember the masses are widely anti-metaphyisical and rationality oriented, the elites are mostly gnostics in hiding and metaphyiscal suprarrational mysticalfags, and the new left is ametaphyisical and irrational. So irrationality is pushed into the rational mases while the elites hide away in their suparrational beliefs.
My 2 cents.
This has to be one of the most intelligent boards on 8chan right now. I'm very glad I've found this board.
Anyway, what does /32/ feel about Master Suppression techniques?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_suppression_techniques
Are there any missing from this list? Any clear cut examples to show? How do we reverse the effects?
Picture unrelated, nothing in my folders are related.
US Psyop Field Manual
http://library.enlistment.us/field-manuals/series-3/FM33-1-1/CH8.PDF
>chapter this screen cap was from
just thought i'd share this with you gentlemen. the similarities between this army manual and the popular /pol/ paste-bin "the gentleman's guide to forum spies" is uncanny
A great Reddit comment you guys will enjoy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2hyqyr/reuters_australia_passes_new_security_law_vastly/ckxbuxa
Darkest Before the Dawn
Has anyone else been noticing the phrase "It's always darkest before the dawn" been tossed around lately?
Personally I didn't think much of it at first but when I heard that phrase being said from different media outlets 3 times in the same day I got suspicious.
I was thinking that the phrase can also be reinterpreted as the phrase the elites know and love "Order from Chaos". And given that a lot of chaotic things are happening now such as
>US preparing for war with Russia
>Rogue One movie suggesting nuclear war
>Social rejection of Donald Trump becoming president
I don't think the phrase is too misplaced given the context.
Reptoids? In my dreams?
It's more likely than you think.
Is there any validity to the claim that reptilian aliens exist, and they have some role in our reality? There are many accounts of such experiences, although they all take place in some sort of dream-like state.
Considering, wouldn't this quality be induced anyway due to the surreal nature of communicating with a non-human intelligence?
Suddenly breaking the normality of the human routine-rigmarole would likely be profoundly traumatic, could dreams therefore be a means to acclimate and sedate for encounter's sake?
Are reptilians (as we now know them) an unconscious manifestation of a primal fear for snakes now modernized?
Rise and Fall of Feminism
Hi,
I would like to study more in-depth of Feminism and how it got into so strong position in western society. I am interested to study how it happened and how to engineer another one. If anyone knows good books or studies regarding it, I would be more than happy to read it, especially early setup to get their ideology infectious among women-appreciation seeking professors, gamers and SJWs.
I find it interesting because the basis of 2nd and 3rd wave feminism is not anymore fighting for equality but a delusion and self-deception what their preachers has got into their followers mind. I know there has been several similar events in world history from decaying Rome to Ottoman empire and how all of them destroyed similar capricious public opinion.
The feminist movement had TON of small-wins that pushed it into power over couple generations, but the early setup for rapid growth is still mystery for me.
Where is /32/ going?
This is a thread about the way psychopolitics are going to change after the election of Trump. Bear with me.
This election meant several things:
1. It made painfully clear that nobody is in charge of the world. The Illuminati-believers, the conspiracy nuts and /pol/ with their jew question, are way off point. The world is (despite the droll social clubs a la bohemian grove) devoid of an all powerful over-watching elite. Even Kissinger was slow to see that Trump was going to win. And I don't think you could get anymore elitist than Kissinger. I know I will get responses accusing me of shilling, but I believe this board (and its users) are intelligent enough to discern this. Any and all attempts on clinging to the conspirational model of the world is akin to catholics holding to a heliocentric model of the cosmos. I know it's scary, but there is no one in charge...
2. Democracy seems to work. At least if some criterias are met. An over confident political elite that was slow and stupid to counter act trumps ascension. A rarified atmosphere of racial and class conflict. A preeminent information based comunication... and so on.
3. The way people are convinced will change thanks to Trump. All of the psychopolitic theories and knowledge will change drastically to reflect his populist approach.
So what I want you guys to discuss is this: How will this change the panorama of psychopolitics and psy ops in general? Is this a blowback of all psy politics gone awry? Or is it the death throes of the American society?
I'm looking forward on your responses...
Not trying to get this board shut down
Let's talk about what to do about the pedowood question.
Here's the situation: secret societies use pedophilia to induce compliance among the "elites ". See Franklin cover up, Dennis Hastert, /pedowood322/
So smart guys. How do you educate people about this without sounding crazy? It's vital to spread the word, to make normal well adjusted people realize that their children could be the victims of these people.
Why do some people think truth is subjective and relative and what can we do about it?
http://www.explore-ideas.com/story.php?i=5097
https://freech.net/fam/res/33544.html
I would use dishonest tactics such as changing IDs to pretend that more posters agree with me than is the case, emotional arguments, ridicule, violence (as a last resort) etc in a desperate attempt to change their diseased minds. This is OK because they don't believe in logic anyway so I can't argue with them logically.
X-Posted from https://www.anontalk.eu/topic/75
Dolphins and New Age
Will we ever speak with them?
"If a human being is isolated from other humans for a month or more, and is confined to a small area geographically and a small range of activities, his interest in his surroundings and its minutiae increase radically....Further, if a confined, isolated human is allowed brief contacts with other humans even without a shared language, he begins to find their presence comforting, and a pleasant relief from the "evenness" of his surroundings. If these humans controls his only sources of food as well as his sources of intraspecies stimulation, he mat adapt to their demands in subtle and not so subtle ways. He may, given time, learn their language, take on their beliefs, etc. When we catch a dolphin and put him alone in a small tank, we are imposing similar "solitary confinement" structures on him. Maybe we can thus capture his loyalty and his initiative."
Cambridge Analytica
>What is it?
Cambridge Analytica (CA) is a privately held company that combines data mining and data analysis with strategic communication for the electoral process. It was created in 2013 as an offshoot of its British parent company SCL Group to participate in American politics. In 2014, CA was involved in 44 U.S. political races. The company is heavily funded by the family of Robert Mercer, an American hedge-fund billionaire. In 2015 it became known as the data analysis company working initially for Ted Cruz's presidential campaign.In 2016, after Cruz's campaign had faltered, Cambridge Analytica started to work for Donald Trump's presidential campaign. The firm maintains offices in New York City, Washington, D.C., and London.
Systems Psychodynamics
The plot to rule the world is old, but the language to describe the principles and techniques in which to accomplish it are relatively new.
>In the end I suceeded in acquiring pupils and building up an International Psycho-Analytic Association. But this struggle is not yet over. - Sigmund Freud.
Freud started the Wednesday Psychological Group, which eventually morphed into a variety of troublesome organizations like the "Coefficients Dining Club" and the Tavistock Insitute of Human Relations.
The people involved are important to know about, but I don't like to get bogged down on specific persons or entities, because it is the ideas they implement that are what you need to stand up against.
The name for the set of principles applied to control the population, including you, is called "Systems Psychodynamics."
http://www.mygen.com/HistoryofSystemsPsychodynamics-2004.pdf
>Systems psychodynamics is an interdisciplinary field amalgamating a triad of influences—the practice of psychoanalysis, the theories and methods of the field of group relations, and the task and boundary awareness of open systems perspectives. Although systems psychodynamics is not a new field of study, there has been a general lack of awareness of its roots, how its formative elements have become intertwined over the years, and the role of the Tavistock Institute in developments in the field. This article provides a synthesis of this history and focuses, in particular, on the intellectual foundations of the Tavistock method of working experientially with groups and the application of this method to the study of organizations.
The troubling aspect of applied systems psychodynamics is that there is no defense against it. In order to combat it, you must employ, essentially, the same methods on yourself.
The US Air Force worked with Tavistock on a social engineering program to sell American citizens more war bonds. The resulting study was titled, "Some Principles of Mass Persuasion" where three easy steps are outlined on how to control the masses.
1) Create a cognitive framework
2) Create a motivational framework
3) Call to action
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12336576
>Guidelines for developing effective programs of mass persuasion were provided. These guidelines were derived from the findings of studies, undertaken by the Division of Program Surveys of the Department of Agriculture for the War Finance Division of the U.S. Treasury Department, for the purpose of evaluating the U.S. Government's efforts to promote the sale of war bonds during the 2nd World War.
Wilfred Bion's "basic assumption" theories are at the heart of systems psychodynamics and you should look into all of that.
Your basic assumptions are being assaulted or confirmed everyday by the news as part of an agenda.
"Othering" is a term the Open Society Foundation uses to describe a tactic of creating divisions in the population. In other words, "diversity is a tactic, not a value" to the people in charge.
Both sides use "othering" by manipulating your basic assumptions about the danger of other people in the worlds around you.
I may go into more detail, later, because mass persuasion and mind control studies are plenty and the clandestine efforts to implement these ideas are fundamentally evil and worthy of your efforts to stop them.
In the meantime, the best innoculation is to adopt to ideas.
1) Transparency of government is imperative.
2) War is wrong.
When you see people going against either of these ideas, they are applying systems psychodynamics against you in order to influence policy change or maintain the status quo on a specific policy.
Both sides use it. Both sides are hiding the extent in which it is used.
The Freemasons
What does the pyramid mean, anyways? that "funny symbol on the back of the one dollar bill", I mean.
Getting information out of this group is notoriously insane but possible, or at least I presume. I've been interested in their core ideas so far, not because I want to join them but because I've been in search for esoteric knowledge.
Political Strategy
We have all heard of politcal strategy, but what is it really?
ITT:
>what current political strategies are used today
>what strategies were used before
>what will happen with political strategy
>what movements are currently doing
>develop your own political strategy
>share strategy
>discuss strategy and politcal events
With the help of politics we controll society, with the help of political strategy we can?..
What the fuck happened with TED?
Watch this vid if you want, but the TLDR is some old fart pro-bullshitter the kind that companies hire to get their employees to shutup about low wages and bad working conditions to tell them to be "more positive" instead with a powerpoint full of meme stock images
And this is not the worse of all, most new TED videos are just crap, its no longer scientists and inventors showing stuff but blowhards like this idiot, and not in TEDx which was always shit-tier but in the TED main events which costs a ton of money to attend.
Are there any exposes on the inner working of TED? any actual leaks about how it works and who decides what goes on the stage? any ex-employees talking about the current state of this organization?
I need actual information with sources, not theories or conjectures.
Google is coming
So in case you guys didn't hear google just hired moot
Yeah, that moot
For what? its not clear, the PR is the same BS most companies push to blogs, but my theories are:
A- moot is going to be part of some new project to beat facebook, which I doubt since 4chan was never mainstream and canv.as was a total failure
B-google is going after IBs and anonymity in general, very likely after the plus and YT fiasco where they wanted all accounts to switch to real names.
What is the "World maker ritual"?
I keep hearing sketchy references in passing to this, sometimes on blogs, sometimes in 8chan threads. (I don't know if it should be spelled "world maker", "worldmaker" or "world-maker.")
Google yields almost nothing about this, nor does archive.org. The few times I've seen open allusions to it, it is people saying that anything on the net about it gets scrubbed quickly. Later I try to find these references…and they appear to have disappeared, too. It's very frustrating.
What I can discern is as follows:
1) It is allegedly a highly secret or esoteric Jewish ritual.
2) Sacrifice – perhaps human sacrifice – may be involved. (However, I think it differs from the more well-known "Moloch" child sacrifices that may or may not have taken place in the ancient Middle East among Jews, Caananites, and/or others)
3) The goal may be to give the ritual performer some kind of Godlike power or even turn such person into a diety. Conversely, it may have something to do with the state of Israel.
4) It may be connected to the theory that the holocaust of the Jews in WWII (whether or not "6 million" died or not) was a ritual sacrifice to bring about the creation of the state of Israel. Or, conversely, it may be something even bigger that hasn't happened yet.
5) Whenever detailed information about this appears on the net, it seems to be "removed" by someone or something.
Help me understand, /32/. Has anyone heard of this? Is it a bunch of bullshit or something real? If the latter, what do we know about it?
Any input welcome.
Fundament psychological exploit used to control populations
Many of the women that we know in our lives today in many ways seem very different from the ideal.
Why?
From the deeps of time:
Since the beginning of humanity women have had to watch over and care for others constantly, and so they became inherently selfless, living to help others before themselves.
Because they were so close to all the needs and wants of their people, they developed the instinct to trust them absolutely and a very deep and true understanding of their people was taken for granted, not only in their minds but in their instincts; in their genetics.
And so it went for a very long time; the care and understanding of women maintained and sustained communities ranging in size from isolated families to large tribes.
But while women tended the home, men traveled far and wide, and all the while the world shrank, and there came slavery, civilization, industry, and the global empire.
This vast change may be summed up to one critical point: freedom was ended. The vast majority of humanity was disrupted and kept in stasis to serve a few masters.
Because masters/employers want the women they control as workers first and as mothers second, they were relieved of many long-standing responsibilities to their people by the 'modernization' of society.
Industry provided substitutes for their love: ready-to-eat food, child care, school, and so on.
But being based in genetics rather than habit, their instincts remained.
Without the traditional complementary habits, the instinctual traits of selflessness that were so precious to the livelihood of their people became discouraged, unused, and hollow, and so selflessness turned to nothing but self-unawareness: The instinct to implicitly trust their social sphere was left intact to be turned to purposes other than what made it to begin with.
Now consider the addition of 'the media' to the common social sphere, being everywhere at all times, with all of its inherent falsehoods and general lack of objectivity. Consider how the media interacts with the feminine instinct to believe and trust their social sphere absolutely.
The truth is that the women are turned to madness, acting completely against their nature.
Their nurturing instincts are used to nurture the interests of the upper classes as handed down from the media rather than those of their own people that they see and interact with every day, even their own children.
Instead of being warm with compassion they are cold with judgements calculated from the information they are brainwashed with.
So it is that women are the primary tool of the upper classes to control us all, because men will do anything for their women. So it is that love is turned against us and the very foundation of our existence is betrayed.
Top-tier brainwashing techniques thread
Top-tier brainwashing techniques thread
He's somewhat of a step-by-step theory I've been pondering, stemming from speculation pertaining to media like the Harry Potter Series.
#1 Strongly assimilate a real world problem with a fictitious one.
#2 Create a context for that problem. the more compelling the context, the easier it is to convince.
#3 Tie the Issue with the context, and the context with an Ideology
#4 Create an appeal to Emotion, Logic or Humor that favor the Ideology. Strongly correlate the Ideology as being morally correct
#5 Repeat. Refine the appeal, remove or counter opposition, make use of convincing straw-men.
#6 Create a situation Which heightens the emotional appeals to a a fight of good versus evil
any suggestions for improvement?
Any brainwashing theories, methods or observations welcome
Homemade psyops
Given the success of the CIA and other intellingence operations, I was thinking 2 things:
1. Is there any precedent of an intelligence service formed by civilians for the interest of the country?
2. Could I do this myself? How do I convince people? Is it worth it?
My goals would be to infiltrate the opposition, use hidden cameras or just get to know their plans to possibly mess them up. Set our own psyops, like the ones they do, but to confuse anti-nationalistic movements.
I'm from South America btw, so maybe that's an advantage, our authorities don't get too worried about what we do.
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Massive sister/ally board team-up thread
without unity we are less than nothing. SEMPER FIDELIS. THE TIME IS UPON US.
properly linked links for spergs who wouldn't have it any other way. (don't blame ya)
(some of these are glitched, and some are a clusterfuck shitstorm full of spam. if the catalog doesn't work just visit the index)
some other related links.
(previous /x/ thread)
(exGATEers thread)
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FAKE NEWS
This is the most transparent media psy-op since "Gamers are Dead" three years ago. There was a thread on /pol/ trying to determine its origin, and no one was exactly sure. There's no question it was deployed across multiple mainstream platforms all at once in a clear act of collusion, right before the Washington Post released its supposed master list of "fake news" sites.
Funny thing is, it's completely spun out of control, since it was laughably easy for Trump, his supporters, and the blacklisted "fake news" sites to throw the label right back at the MSM. It was a totally incompetent move on the MSM's part; it seems they're resorting to cheap gimmicks in an attempt to regain the public's trust.
Thoughts?
The Truth About 8chan.
The owner of 8chan, Jim Watkins, has been accused of co-opting 2ch. The function of the 2ch co-opting was to bellow the flames of right wing shit-posting in order to justify anti-hate speech intervention online and to undermine the credibility of the right in Japan. This is exactly what what we see going on now in the west. Kek is on CNN and the alt-right is being defined by its adversaries. Image boards are now a national issue.
On halfchan the Trump campaign is paying people to bump the Trump General threads literally 24hrs a day. The Trump campaign has also seized control of 8/pol/. In case you didn't notice. At the time of this writing there are 4 Trump stickies on the front page. The mods have been ordered to ban on site anyone who disparages "the god emperor" with evidence and links.
Finally, Jim is a free mason and every mason thread will get anchored. This started happening around the time Trump came in and bought out the board.
Alright 32, I'm new here from /pol/ (as most are by the looks of it). I've come here in hopes of finding some form of peace from all this insanity that is currently being put out.
I've taken off the glasses and am seeing the world through a much different viewing. It hasn't been comforting and in many ways has caused my emotions to fluctuate up and down.
I've been looking at ways too better myself as a human being, learning new things as much as possible etc, but the one thing I believe I need now is too find comfort. I dont expect to find it here but maybe a direction to where there is comfort.
Im wondering /32/, is if you can offer me advice on what to do to find some form of peacefulness when needed before I drift into insanity.
Youtube Bots and the Bot Web
Has it reached most peoples attention yet that most youtube comments are posted by bot accounts? I mean accounts with a human name and human face, someone presenting as a human who is apparently not. Or is it paranoid to think so?
It's not just on youtube, I see it on Amazon too. Short snippy reviews that use vague terminology like 'great product A+'. Sometimes you can click a profile and you'll see odd reviews left by people with odd-looking heads. Mostly their reviews are short but have typos or a familiar theme between them, like this 'Parastoo's' obsession with German quality products. Browsing art supply reviews I came upon one of these odd-headed, uncanny valley looking types who left a review on an erotic connect-the-dot picture book, disappointed that there were 'no good cockworshipping blowjob pictures' in the book, which is very risque with her face as her profile picture.
There's a h3h3 youtube video called 'spamtube'. He says bots are real, but he suggests the girl with the big boobs in the comments is not a bot. She actually is a bot though, obviously, or at least it's not a real girl.
What does /32/ think about this?
Hey /32/
What do people need to do/know in order to be free?
People seem to be stuck in the idea that not having chains on their hands means they are "free", to which I find retarded, as government quickly starts clamping down on the freedom of those idiots while the corporations join over in their friendly alliance.
Libido Dominandi
Libido Dominandi - Sexual liberation and Political ControlInterview with the author:
http://romancatholicreport.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/libidodominandi.mp3
Old trolls going full-SJW
This user here >>268600 raises a good point which I been thinking about since GG started last year.
Basically a lot of members of the 'antigamer' brigade and the most aggressive SJWs in general seem to be all former trolls from the 1999-2007 era, from randi harper to "sarah butts" to zoey quinn they all seem to be former members of some of the worst troll groups from that time like Helldump and GNAA among others
While some give that hint that they might just be doing it for the money since many SJWs have managed to make a career out of e-begging the reality is that many have gone too far for it to be just a ruse.
So the question is what motivated this people to become what they used to mock relentlessly? were they actively co-opted like bitting beaver did to SA? is their motivation a combination of financial and social(fame, respect) incentives or there's something more?
Lets discuss
Suicide: Greedy, selfish, cowards, or none of the above
I'm going to put this here because I'm not going anywhere soon and this board (although as dead as all non-top3 or so boards) still attracts legitimate people on occasion.
In my opinion the idea that suicide is selfish is completely absurd and somewhere around the opposite is true "don't commit suicide because it will make me feel bad although I can't help you" or "I brought you into this world now suffer with me"
I don't have enough to continue with anything more indepth for now so take this or discard this.
Take it from any angle you want
The Economist - Planet Trump
The Economist has released its 2017 cover.
For those that aren't familiar with the Year Covers, The Economist is an organisation directly owned by the infamous Rothschild family.
Once a year the Economist releases a cryptic special edition cover, widely believed to be a blueprint for the coming year.
In the past the Economist has mostly stuck with world leaders and drawings. For 2017 they've gone all out on the occult themes - using Tarot cards.
Looking forward to hearing what you guys think of what the cover says, and what's to come.
What to do
You want real, actual politology and pschycopolitics? Or are you just here to kill time?
The important thing to remember is that what really matters is not the election itself, but the hegemony: the capacity to control and direct masses through political discourse.
Ask yourself, who has the hegemony in your country?
That is the actual explanation as to why the left is so desperate; not because Trump might win the election, but because the topics and themes being discussed by men are no longer dictated by themselves.
Their perception of threat is indeed disproportionate to the actual damage we can currently cause, but their reaction is not disproportionate. They saturate all means of communication of all countries with their discourse and thematics. What follow is that, if you are not paying attention closely, you might end up repeating their arguments or talking about the themes they set up you to talk about.
Having apparently useless conversations about race or misoginy is what they actively seek, thus internalizing the talking points into the audience.
They do not actually care about facts. They actually find that facts are annoying and interrupt the political processes. This has been a steady concept in left-wing politics since Rousseau avocated for the "noble savage"; reality is in the eye of the beholder, they sustain, and our institutions are just constructs that must be strategically disarmed by the way of thought. That is how they pretend to end all nations, for instance; by first eliminating your concept of a nation. It ALWAYS starts in your own head, because if YOUR concept of things does not change, then there is no revolution at all.
They do not really care about Trump's actual policies, or projects; the specific measures he takes are not important to them. What they do find important though are the topics in discussion, the language used and the cosmovisions that are subsecuently socialized. They know quite well they can reinterpret facts once they achieve hegemony so that those same historical happenings are understood to mean exactly the opposite to what they mean by itself. Their maxim is "thought controls actions". That is the truth why they are desperate: because they know they are losing control over your own thought process. That control is sustained by a firm power of denial of self-judgement: it has been established without your lucid consent. It has been established by way of seduction, deceit, false appearence, the irrational and the unconcious. It is a VERY effective method of control and direction.
Once you are rid of this, your job is not quite over. You have somehow gotten free from Plato's cave, but you now need to rendevous with other lucid individuals and form a vanguard.
Pervasive logic slip of the masses
I am assuming the reader has experienced these terms before
>niggers, kikes, spics, poo in loo
Humor in these terms aside, I feel that these terms are all representative of fallacious strawmen, scapegoats, and crux derailments.There is no purpose besides difference, an instilled
My proposal to you is that the issue with domestic conflict is one of culture, and not race.
To illustrate this concept, I feel that it is necessary to begin with a viable example that I see quite frequently.
>the white black guy
>redpilled jew
>woman who has her head on straight
>Americanized muslim
The pretexting phrase (redpilled etc.) indicates that these hypothetical cultural minorities see the world through a lens which is similar to that of oneself and others who they believe to be competent politically, socially, and morally. This further indicates that they prescribe to a perceived notion of reality based on empirical evidence and conglomerate experience. I don't feel that it is inherently wrong to use these labels, however, I believe that these labels are used because the individual using them is unaware of what I believe to be a mass logic slip in modern narrative. IE: what I am proposing, that domestic conflict is one of culture and not race.
Further, I propose that government, religion, and propaganda repetitiously prescribe a reality which promotes acceptable social, moral, and economic boundaries to be followed so that the masses are able to interact amicably. This mechanism is also sympathetic, and at necessary times, advantageous to those in power who wish to remain in power. This should come as no secret to those who are actively perusing the truth of power, however, I felt it important to mention because it is an associated facet of the aforementioned.
The fact that multicultural nations fail, is paraded through current popular thought with a willful underlying belief by the masses that race is the crux of the issue. It is naive to ignore the fact that what we call a person of an historical race has differing cognitive abilities and physicality than does one of a separate race. However, I further propose that human beings are all capable of adapting and assimilating into any culture at an early age. I believe that culture is a function of an environment, and an environment identifies geographical location and class. Our integrated bias associates environment with difference, and difference with negativity. Through generations we have seen first hand all colors of people prescribe to the universal neo-protestant culture.
I believe that the blinder of race is dangerous, and I believe that this paraphrased quote by MLK will fully illustrate my proposal: "Judged not by the color of their skin, but the content of one's character". Character, meaning positive personality traits based on cultural phenomena.
I further believe that it is how we share and put to use our knowledge, to what ends do you/we work? If you possessed the ability to inform and manipulate the masses, how would you go about this? Remember, without constantly destroying out reality due to conflicting fact, we are no better off. Worse - we prescribe to a half constructed, abstract ideology that we know deep down to be flawed.
I believe that my proposal is founded on truth and logic, however, I also invite others to provide dissenting opinions or counter arguments based on experience and further refined logic.
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
What does this mean exactly? What references are tied to it, what exo/esoteric meanings have been attributed to it, and how has it been used in creepy ways by the current geopolitical powers that be?
I'm particularly interested in how it relates to gnosticism, Hegelian philosophy of the geist, occult mentalist, intelligence community work, or anything pic-related with God as light filtering through _ and man as _ seeking to _.
/cfg/ Clinton Foundation: infinite PsyOP
Unfortunately the anons over there are swimming in a lake of shit and as they are looking for a cosy place to work, I thaught /32/ maybe a place to hide the inner cercle of the Research divison so they can keep on digging.
If the overlords arent o.k with this move feel free to delete the thread and give me a ban.
BTW, not going to spam link as it isnt in our interest to spread cancer, quite the opposite
Useful Links
I'm not sure how many of you go on the IRC, but we had someone drop a whole bunch of links and requested that a thread be made. Feel free to contribute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Big_Itch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_LAC
http://all.net/journal/deception/MKULTRA/
http://puffin.creighton.edu/phil/Stephens/OSAP%20Epictetus%20on%20Stoic%20Love.htm
http://www.ludism.org/mentat/HomePage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard's_transsexualism_typology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_target_location_error
http://thetwinpowers.com/en/introduction
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheronQRamacharaka/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=da
http://digilander.libero.it/livuso/Napoletano.htm
http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=6116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Question_Concerning_Technology
http://thewaywardaxolotl.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/the-perplexities-of-being-modern.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelphs_and_Ghibellines
http://gnosis.org/library.html
http://library.enlistment.us/field-manuals/series-3/FM33-1-1/CH8.PDF
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=35
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_cross-ownership_in_the_United_States
http://www.survivorlibrary.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems
We have likely all arrived at similar conclusions in regards to how the world works. So I want to pose two questions:
1.Is there any hope of changing things for the better?
2.If there is, how do we do it?
Personally, I have a very hard time believing that we can prevent the gradual loss of our liberties and regain even a little bit of power over our own lives. We aren't fighting to prevent the New World Order (or whatever you want to call it), we are fighting to change it back. It is very hard not to give into despair and choose a hedonistic life of servitude when looking at the big picture. In fact, this song seems to me like the perfect soundtrack for the 21st Century.
Regarding the method of resistance, there are many differing opinions on this. The Fringe Wizards believe in using magik to fight the Demiurge and liberate themselves as individuals, both the /pol/acks and the /lefty/s believe in revolution and the creation of a new government, while the libertarians like the idea that the free market will fix it. As for me, I can't really think of an effective way we can try to overcome our enslavement as a society. We can only resist as individuals, and in our resistance set the example for others, while fighting the inevitable marginalization of our opinions. I wouldn't be surprised if the people on top were aware of the existence of places online like this, and found it amusing.
Time to feed
Another attack, huh? Now there'll be more, and of course if they can get into the heart of the EU, they can hit anywhere. Think we need more legislation to fix this? More gun control? They had Kalashnikovs! All the sleeper agents, anyone could be a threat. At least we have troops on the streets, but more has to be done.
In fact, we need to strike now, before it's too late. You heard that they coordinated the last attacks by phone? If only we could have noticed.
http://flowofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/mindwar-mindwar_co_authored_by_michael-aquino.pdf
>Ionization of the air: An abundance of negative condensation nuclei (“air ions”) in ingested air
enhances alertness and exhilaration, while an excess of positive ions enhances drowsiness and depression.
Calculation of the ionic balance of a target audience’s atmospheric environment will be correspondingly
useful. Again this is a naturally-occurring condition - caused by such varying agents as solar ultraviolet
light, lightning, and rapidly-moving water - rather than one which most be artificially created. (Detonationh
of nuclear weapons, however, will alter atmospheric ionization levels.)Cf. Soyke, Fred and Edmonds, Alan,
The Ion E ect. New York: E.P. Dutton, 1977.
deep state New Age movement
This was a lot to take in and encompassed a lot of what I previously thought were disparate elements. Thoughts?http://projectavalon.net/forum4/archive/index.php/t-2315.html?s=205b9ef9a34779a958b46ca9728d1ad2
http://www.whale.to/b/sarfatti.html
On Memetics
Memetics is a field that was initially attempted to be research on at least one 8chan board, namely /BMW/.
The results never were collected because at every turn discussion of memetics as a potential vector for disseminating information pertinent to halting the current social decline was derailed by at best genuine occultist believers and at worst malicious subversives.
To begin memes are potentially a groundbreaking way to communicate many messages in a concise, compact and most importantly of all, humourous way. indeed the same meme may contain numerous messages, for example the (by anon standards) ancient Pedobear meme, this conveys a huge number of meanings, depending on minor changes and additions to the meme itself, so when depicted with a person with normal expression this clearly indicates of course that the pictured is a pedophile, when alone or in an approval seal it is simultaneously a warning to anons to not go into the thread, and a call to the mods for removal of the thread.
The chans actually hold a major advantage in this medium of information dissemination as old media or even new media who are late gen X or early millenials for some reason do not quite have the required ability to read the subtle nuances of a meme, perhaps it's a matter of age, perhaps a matter of left-leaning offence and elitism, some combination of the two or neither. however it does stand as a significant advantage to the various chan boards most notably /pol/ in getting information out to people beyond normal social media and bloggers etc's speed of adaptation, a fantastic example of this being the meme and slur "dindu" or "dindu nuffin" which evaded media call outs for the hilariously racially charged epithet it truly is for more than a year and indeed most people until the /k/-baltimore altercation would not have known what you meant had you said it but those who looked it up or who paid attention to context.
as such memes have two particularly beautiful applications, one of which being pseudo-cryptography, in which multiple layered meanings on a meme allow it to be used in different settings via posters or some such to communicate something about a place or group frequenting it, or as this piece seeks to explore for disseminating a trail to be followed, a notable example of which would be "with open gates" and its eclipsed but in many ways more skillfully executed with less opsec violations "cinder to cinder". memes can also be used to draw people insidiously into spaces where one may want them, in a twist upon the (also ancient) summerfag meme, what one ought to do is create a particularly innocuous seeming but also completely hilarious meme that leads exactly where one wishes such a thing to go, so in the case of /pol/ create something leading to their world view, /r9k/ effectively still uses pepe to this end with varying implications. the applications of memetics as being able to lead people without preaching is in and of itself an art that was lost to 8ch before it could even come to be due to the "meme magicians" who thought that ebola chan was real and the reason it worked had nothing to do with african paranoia at westerners as a whole being exacerbated but instead was because ebola-chan is "an egregore" suffice to say while an amusing and useful lie, when widely held as truth by the community crafting the memes that are supposed to in some way in the case of /pol/ resist social degeneration and the spread of islam into the west and into every european woman they can get their hands on's crotch, it prevents the spread of the idea, now thankfully for /pol/ trump has already figured this out and it is scaring the media, it is scaring the establishment. and they will do anything to shut him down as a result.
The problem with this knowledge is how dangerous it is, the left is unable to craft humourous and effective memes since they have run out of any material that isn't seen as the same old unfunny tripe that is simply shitting on what everyone wants, a stable society where their children do not run the risk of being blamed for their own rapes at the hands of foreigners as seen in germany. as such with the lefts inability to have a real sense of humour about anything the art of memetics remains forever partially closed to them, to grasp it successfully they would have to change their entire goals to not amount to western civilisation's devastation and replacement.
That said /pol/ is currently unable to grasp it properly too, /pol/ seems since to instead of prefer thinking about memetics rationally believe the meme magic lies and seem unable to get beyond it. if however they somehow do get beyond it, unfortunately with the voraciousness of the media's hawkish gaze upon us, they will attempt to destroy all attempts to capitalise on such advances. the situation as such remains in a seemingly perpetual stalemate with neither side able to gain the upper hand in this battlefield.
Games and the Reinvention of Reality
So I've been hearing about the development of video games for the purpose of recreating the nature of the world to the next generation of students.
(specifically, from this blog http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/reimaging-the-nature-of-the-world-in-the-minds-of-students-alters-future-behavior-and-social-events/)
The term "gamification" has been gaining a lot of popularity in the last few years and I predict that there will most likely be a public debate on the inclusion of video games in schools soon. Electronic gadgets such as laptops and tablets are quickly making their way into our schools. As a matter of fact, many schools have already included tablets in their list of school supplies. But this is besides the point; we are going to see a change in the way we teach our children rather than just the addition of an electronic gadget. Among one of these games is the game Quandary. What I'll be doing in this thread is a play-through of this game.
It's available online for free at http://quandarygame. org/
There are 3 chapters and I'll be playing through the first one to see what the fuss is all about. I won't be making any reflections on this. Hope you enjoy it or find something of interest.
Summary of the game pulled from the website itself:
Players aged 8 and up shape the future of a new society while learning how to recognize ethical issues and deal with challenging situations in their own lives.
Players lead a new human colony on a distant planet. They must make difficult decisions in which there are no clear right or wrong answers but important consequences – to themselves, to others in the colony and to the planet Braxos. Players develop skills such as critical thinking, perspective-taking and decision-making. Quandary provides a framework for how to approach ethical decision-making without telling players what to think.
Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, santa claus is coming to town!
"Santa Claus is Coming to Town" is a Christ mass song written in America in 1934. It has become one of the biggest sellers in American history.
I just want to note that it is funny how much of culture and traditions that are nowadays owned by corporations but that will not be the main focus of the thread.
I want to us to discuss the song itself. It has an upbeat melody, yet the lyrics are scary. We are told to watch out, because there is an all seeing, all knowing character coming, and we WILL be judged.
We are told not to cry, nor to pout. This stands in stark contrast to the modern viewpoint that one should console crying children, rather than tell them to shut up.
So far I've gone over the superficial properties of the song. Please help me drill deeper into this
BEYOND 2015: A GOODWILL VISION
Lucis Trust set to define world goals in 2015.In 2015 the United Nations Millennium Development Goals are due to expire. Eight clearly defined goals for human development, each with a set of measurable targets, were agreed by Heads of State at the UN during the visionary days leading up to the threshold of a new millennium on January 1 2000.
https://archive.today/c7Pgv
http://www.lucistrust.org/en/service_activities/world_goodwill/newsletter/recent_issues/2013_1/beyond_2015_a_goodwill_vision
TV/Movies subliminal messages thread
So has anyone here noticed subliminal hidden messages within popular movies and TV?Is it "merely coincidence"? Or are these subliminal images, numbers and messages put in our media for a reason?
I'll start off with a few Sandy Hook subliminal messages found within the third Dark Knight movie, which was released on July 16, 2012, long before The Sandy Hook "Shooting" on December 14, 2012.
For a fully detailed exploration of the Sandy Hook subliminal's, with evidence and sources, please see this thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1u51vz/investigating_the_strange_coincidences_and/
I'll also post other images of hidden imagery from other movies.
Pic related - This is the prop map sent out to various bloggers and media as part of the Dec 16th 2011 - Dark Knight Rises viral marketing campaign.
Law & Order SVU
The recent episode of Law& Order Special Victims Unit deals with the problem of online harassment of women involved in gaming. It depicts a dedicated programmer who is doxxed swatted, kidnapped and raped by a small group of males who are enraged by her presence in the gaming world. Most of you which have watched this episode or read about it have already figured out it is a blatant piece of ideological propaganda, so let's take a moment to analyze the message a bit more clearly.The first element that catches our attention is the complete lack of subtlety in introducing to the viewer such trending technological terms as "noob" and "camping". The majority of the characters seems clueless in regards to this world of video-games, but hopefully Ice-T's character is there to provide exposition. This was not a case of lack of perception or bad writing, it was in fact a deliberate attempt at alienating individuals who actually understand gaming culture, because such viewers are much less likely to accept the message that is to come. These encyclopedic quoted during dialogue allow the individuals who are not familiar with the topic to believe that they are learning about it, and thus validate their notion that their opinions on the subject are valid.
Despite the obvious reference to current events, the writers are very careful to change the details in order to fit the narrative into what was reported by the major news outlets. The first and most obvious change is the fact that the harassment is motivated not by an ethical matter, but by the mere fact that the target is a woman involved in gaming. Yes, there is a brief mention that she is suspected with having slept with someone in order to gain favor with investors or somesuch, but in all of the instances that the criminals make themselves heard, the attack is not justified by this rumor (which not denied), but by their nonacceptance of the fact that women are involved in gaming.
(continues on the next post)
Manufacturing of News
Check this link: https://archive.is/7C9Um
Besides the irony of gawker having a blog to check if news are factual (pot calling the kettle....) its amazing how many news are just plain blatant lies with poorly photoshopped pictures and how hard is to stop them from spreading.
This reminds me of the recent shootings in the USA where all blogs rushed to say it was 3 white men in military gear who did and continued to say it even a day after it was proved they were a muslim man and his pakistani muslim wife. Then they proceeded to say the couple had nothing to do with ISIS even though now the FBI has confirmed there is a strong connection.
The reason why I mention this last case is because it shows the risk that fake news can trigger a massive domino effect when there is literally no interest at all to have check any facts and the news being reported are not trivial filler but the kind of stuff that could trigger a war.
Need some good ideas and help
My brother is morbidly obese to the point where he may die in 10 years if he doesn't change.
I've tried kindly talking to him, I've tried rudely motivating him, I don't know what to do to help him. Do you have any books I could read to give me an idea on how to properly lead him to the right path?
I'm sorry this is a blog post, please delete it if you'd like. I just need ideas
BLM as a distraction tactic
You know before this BLM nonsense started I remember police brutality being a BIG issue
They were getting close to talking about it in congress
And then out of nowhere comes this group of borderline insane people with no clear target except "fuck the cops" who don't care that police brutality affects everyone and not just black people and who are hostile to pretty much every other group. They even go and harass sanders who is by far the most leftwing candidate yanks have had in decades.
Of course this group is full of shady characters, people known to run scams in the black community, white people pretending to be black, ex-cons and to top it off they are receiving funding from some VERY shady sources that really have to reason to back this people.........
..........unless of course their objective was to derail the police brutality conversation away from reasonable discussion and into the realm of bullshit circular logic and race card nonsense so people will just get tired of it and the whole issue dies down.
Opinions?
Let's make a handbook for all of the basic persuasion/dissuasion/subversion/etc. techniques.
Nothing ridiculously in-depth, but a useful explanation of each tactic (and an example) would be beneficial. I will bring them all together into a "PsyOp Handbook" once we've got all of the main bases covered.
If you don't know a name for a tactic, just give an example…or make a good name up, if there isn't one.
#thinkserious
Found this on /pol/ and I think it has a lot of crossover with this board's topics.
Basically this video series ties together academics and business people people in a "conspiracy" to redirect gaming culture to make it acceptable for use in schools. The games which are intended for use in school present politically correct agendas and are designed to change the attitudes of their players.
The videos can be viewed on a youtube playlist or embedded webms, both found here
Aesthetics
This may initially seem like an off-topic discussion, but consider the following:Art is an expression of the ideas of it's maker. It varies according to trends and cultural values. Old civilizations can be studied through their art, and current artists often represent our views of the future. Art is a cultural (and therefore both social and psychological) element of a society.
So I want to know, what do you consider art? How do you define it? What is its purpose, and what should its purpose be?
The infiltration of internet culture
Not a fan of polandball since I find the humor to be pretty dumb and the fanbase but suffer from doublespeak by being overtly PC about some countries and incredibly racist with others
Anyway, my point is that a friend sent me this today: https://archive.is/ZLJfR
And I couldn't help but think it was the work of some PR agency
Some observations:
>it comes right after movements like pegida are gaining strength (mostly due to the ineptitude of the left-wing rather than their own achievements)
>the quality its far better than the usual polandball comic, looks professional-grade
>the message its almost cliche god vs evil, clearly intended for a more casual audience than the usual polandball public
>it clearly tries to smear certain sectors by equating them to the nazis
>only highlighting the damage russia did, much like cold war propaganda, since russia its "evil" again, or basically no longer aligned with certain interests
Sexual psychology and sexual fetishes as a weapon against population
I've been for long time interested in sexual psychology and sexual fetishes as a weapon against population, especially against white people.
Sexuality in general is being used to promote anti-white values, and lifestyles. Many bad and harmful behaviour is promoted by sexualizig it, and having positive social conitations attached to it.
For example in rap culture and in rap videos black rappers are always surrounded by halfnaked women shaking their ass. Women are sex objects in our psychology what ever feminist wanted it or not. It's not something that can be socially enginere off.
I've wathed internet porn for most of my life. And I can honesty say all my fetished and general sexuality comes from porn. I don't believe that sexuality is biological in a sense like the gay community claims. I've spoken to many gay people and privatly they all agree that they weren't gay first. Of course it's hard to have a honest discussion about this subject, because gay rights movement is more identitarian and thus they refuse to look the issue objectively. I don't say that sexuality is not genetic. On the contrurary I believe sexuality as a mechanism is deeply imbedded into our genes, just like other needs like hunger. We feel hungry when our stomack is empty, which gives our brain the signal to feel hungry. Sexuality works the same way, but I believe that social and sexual association are intertwined, and most of our fetished are memes, that were sexualized into obsessiveness.
I'll write two topics on sexuality which I believe are crucial for us to understand, so we can combat them and build immunity against them.
1) How to combat and/or reverse feminine homosexuality, which in it's opsessive compulsions turns into transexualism. The basic idea by this is to stop porn making weaker and submissive men.
2) How to combat Cuckold fetish, and worshipping of the black sexual masculinity?
I know there are a lot of smart guys here. I hope we can find solutions.
FIRST EVER BOOK CLUB
Let's start the first /32/ book club meeting.This week the topic is "Fourth Generation Warfare". The assigned texts were "The Changing Face of War - Into the Fourth Generation" & "Fourth Generation Warfare and the Moral Imperative". Did you get a chance to read them?
Did you seek any other texts on the subject?
I also read "Evolution of War - The Fourth Generation" and "Fourth Generation Warfare and Other Myths".
What did you think of the texts themselves?
What did you think of the topic?
Do you think you can give a good definition of 4th Gen Warfare?
Control of online spaces, steering attitudes
Can we talk for a moment about this trip user on /pol/?
They trip with the name Rach and avatar with photos of Rachel Maddow on /pol/ and news boards.
Now, whoever is doing this, has been doing it for some time. And they do it on /pol/ and /n/ here. These boards have tradition of antagonizing anything overtly "leftie" in appearance- something that the person posting as Rach obviously knows. So they are using Maddow specifically in order to provoke and incense.
Now, the content of their posts consists of lots of language like "stormderp", espousing feminism and equality and criticizing mention of jews.
My queston is, is this some kind of reverse psychology to reinforce /pol/ ideologies? Is this a manipulation operation to make people emotional and responsive, and to enforce dichotomous thinking? Because that's what it seems like. In all of these threads, posters inevitably take the bait and go on emotionally charged diatribes defending and clinging to whatever rach opposes...
Your thoughts, please.
Drug culture and big pharma
Hello /32/, I enjoy this board.
I wanted to ask you guys your opinions on drug culture/use in the west and how that ties into the political landscape.
I've noticed that drugs seem to trend a bit, for example opiates (heroin, pain medication) seem to come in and out of style in cycles. In the USA the heroin problem was pretty much under control by the early-mid 1990s, at least outside of your major cities. It wasn't totally gone but it was defiantly on the decline.
Sometime after 9/11 it seemed like everyone was getting pills. Doctors were handing out oxycodone to anyone that would ask for it and prescribing insane amounts. The younger people eventually figured this out and started abusing them too. Tons of folks ended up on what was basically big pharma heroin in the span of a decade.
Benzos seemed to really take off around that time as well. Then there are those that were on anti-depressants, anti-psychotics, and whatever else the doctor could throw at them. It seemed like there was a pill for everything...and ads started showing up for them on TV and haven't let up since.
Now there are a huge population of people that are either dependent, addicted, or prone to relapse when it comes to these substances. If they aren't getting it from a doctor they get it off the street. End result is a nation of drug addicts.
If you go back through the times you see that while drug use was always a constant there seems to be spikes where more of the general population will become addicted. Opium is almost always in there, but cocaine pops up too.
I know I'm rambling. I wanted to get some opinions on the following questions:
>Do you think the greater population is encouraged to take certain substances by their Governments?
> How safe are these "research chemicals" and could their recent explosion on the market be intentional?
> Why is medicine allowed to be patented and why can't I grow my own?
I kind of know the answer to this already I think but I pose the question just to hear your thoughts on the subject.
My great-grandmother grew her own medicine, curing most simple things with herbs and good old farm raised opium. I feel one should be allowed to grow and harvest a small amount of opium, it should be as common as growing tomatoes in your own garden.
The only reason I see it not begin against the law is so one must turn to big pharma for the product, and one must either pay taxes or out of pocket for health services.
> What is your opinion on drug use within society? How would you control it?
Thank y'all for your time.
IARPA: changing perceptions through the study of semiotics
Metaphor
>www.iarpa.gov/index.php/research-programs/metaphor
>www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/05/why-are-spy-researchers-building-a-metaphor-program/239402/
>www.icsi.berkeley.edu/icsi/gazette/2012/05/metanet-project
SCIL
>www.iarpa.gov/index.php/research-programs/scil
>www.speech.sri.com/projects/scil/
>circleof13.blogspot.com/2008/01/iarpa-one-of-agencys-primary-interests.html
SIRIUS
>www.iarpa.gov/index.php/research-programs/sirius
List of IARPA programs.
>www.iarpa.gov/index.php/research-programs
I found a blog post on the use of loaded terminology to control the narrative and thought it was relevant to /32/:
http://halcyoninitiative.wordpress.com/2014/08/09/trigger-words-and-how-they-are-used-against-us/
Cultural Marxism information?
I have put off learning about cultural marxism and things like it for far too long. I am watching a documentary on it, but I understand documentaries are very rarely good for detailed information.
If anyone knows of any good doumentaties, and books for things like this please point me in the correct direction. I also recall seeing it being big in a part of jews from Russia versus other jews.
I posted on /pol/ but feel I can get better information here because it seems as its right down this sections alley.
Cultural marxism from what I've seen so far seems just like the video of Yuri Bezmenov. That may be why I'm thinking I saw something related to jews.
When I study things I like to learn it down the the root, which is why I want more than just this documentary. Please point me in the right direction, thank you
Austrian-Keynesian Dialectic: Economics as Psyops
Money represents human time, energy and claims of ownership.To control people, you need to control their time, energy and claims of ownership.
The monetary system is the basis of our society. You can control almost any person or organisation to a very great extent by leveraging their need of it. Everybody, in practice, believes in it.
We know propoganda and psychological manipulation is rife. The above suggests that monetary systems are an area that would be focused on intensely. The facts agree.
To be maximally responsive to money, people need to believe intensely in scarcity. So we should expect psyops to focus upon enforcing scarcity by maximally obscure and maximally ubiquitous means. Again, the facts agree.
This is a thread for discussing economic psyops as the basis of social control. Feel free to contribute whatever. I'll lay out how I see it working in the post below. This will inevitably verge into party-politics, in that almost the entire spectrum is a massive distraction from this. That includes all the poltical movements you find represented on 8chan: identity-political rightism, redistributive Marxism, libertarianism, and, most laughably of all, Neoreaction.
New Age Blueprint for Social Engineering
To guide the future.Sponsored by your government.
full text: http://www.technoccult.net/wp-content/uploads/library/changing-images.pdf
Excerpt from page 170:
• The need-Our societal problems might combine with the multifold trend to create
the need for such a friendly sort of totalitarianism. Perhaps this feeling of benign
need was presaged in a recent statement by the White House Chief of Telecommunications:
"A great many people in '1984' like what Big Brother was doing
because he was doing it in their interest and concern" (Whitehead, 1973).
• The ability-Although one may fault the metaphysical implications of behavior
modification, one cannot deny that it works. Today we are seeing the rapid
emergence of "psycho-technologies" which could efficiently shape and modify patterns
of behavior as well as motivational and emotional states. This could take the
form of directed emotional conditioning in childhood; objectively constructed reinforcement
patterns in adult life; the use of a wide variety of drugs; electrical brain
implants; the modification of genetic makeup to activate different human potentials;
the use of sophisticated electronic surveillance mechanisms to detect "aberrant"
behavior patterns.
• A supportive image of man-The use of and dependence upon such psycho-technologies
might well lead gradually to a pernicious form of the extrapolationist image
of man. This is plausible in a self-validating way, since many aspects of the current
form of the extrapolationist image seem supportive of the increasing use and
dependence upon these technologies. Man is viewed as a sophisticated machine
(therefore, master human nature as we have mastered physical nature); man is
thought to be largely determined in his behavior (therefore, objectively shape his
behavior in the most efficient way); man is innately antisocial (therefore, restrain
antisocial tendencies with the aid of new technologies); individual man is subordinate
to the needs of the collective (therefore, impose upon the individual whatever is to
the benefit of the larger society).
• The acquiescence-Many psycho-technologies are already in limited use in our society
and they would appear to be quite palatable to the general public if they were
assimilated gradually while being couched in the appropriate language; e.g. rather
than discuss the control of emotional and motivational states, we can talk of insuring
peace and harmony by modifying the behavior of those "irrational" persons who
threaten the stability and security of our society.
More information:
https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/deep-background-sri-lsd-changing-images-of-man-the-aquarian-conspiracy/
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=1507
Serious discussion time
So since this might be the only board on 8chan that isn't full of spamers, sjws and kiddies and where we can actually have a serious talk I think it worth analyzing this
Why did gamergate fail?
>inb4 it didn't fail you shill/cuck/whatever
Nah it failed, I was really invested on it since august '14 and nothing happened, no public apologies, no companies defending gamers, no sjws getting fired. That idiot anita is still there, still making money off disinformation, the documentary was a joke, the basedgamers another joke, MSM its still milking the harassment crap, nobody has been openly exposed and shamed for that they are.
I think we should really research this given that the failure of GG might signal the death of internet activism. Right now the only activism that works its corporate/government-sanctioned slacktivism which does nothing but reinforce the powers that are already in place
In a way the current state of the internet is a lot like the Brezhnev stagnation period of the USSR: lots of political debate and mumbo jumbo from intellectuals against WMDs and the like while at the same time political repression was going up (compared to Kruschev's time) and the military was building more and more WMDs, completely contradicting their own message. That's because the message came straight from the kremlim, the average soviet citizen was more concerned about the economic slump and increasing food scarcity so to take people's attention away from that the soviet elite decided to change the narrative. Of course at the end it didn't work because the USSR wasn't the richest superpower.
I think GG failed because the methods used where from a decade ago when corporations and governments failed to suppress our actions because it was something they had never encountered before but now they have finally managed to control the situation because they have developed techniques (massive spam attacks by paid employees) and technologies (spyware, botnets) which combined with a MSM thats more dependent than ever from corporate welfare (ads, sponsored content) and a public numb with the noice of irrelevant information makes methods we used only a few years ago effectively obsolete.
Think about it: facebook and twitter openly sell likes and feature posts with money, you can literally have *the* most unpopular opinion in the world and still get it the front of line if you pay these companies enough.
Moderate and Extremist
Does a moderate movement benefit from existence of extremists?
On the one hand, they can be taken for extremists and be considered guilty by association.
On the other hand they can seem very reasonable when contrasted with the extremists (overton window).
Is the net effect good or bad? Or does it depend on the situation?
Yuri Bezmenov
This video should be required watching for anyone on /32/. A concise and articulate (and humorous) overview of the methods of political subversion from a Soviet defector.
His thesis is that ideological subversion of a culture happens in four stages: demoralization, crisis, normalization and destabilization, after a which a foreign power will assume power via civil war or invasion. He states that this process is legitimate and open and happens in the full view of the public, if one cares to notice it.
He emphasis that the entire process can be thwarted as the first stage if the people have sufficient strength of spirit and moral character to resist the initial demoralization and destruction of their identity.
A link to a blogpost with more links regarding Bezmenov's life and thought: http://www.maledefender.com/yuri-bezmenov/
Politics and migration in Europe
What is fueling the current support for almost unrestricted immigration to Europe?
Personally I'm suspecting a series of factors but I would like to hear other opinions as well.
First I think we're looking at one huge case of "keeping with the joneses" particularly in the upper european classes that seem to be willing to do whatever it takes to outclass the other in terms of progressiveness. You see, because in the current social climate being "progressive" grants the same benefits than say being "pious" in the victorian age or being "vanguardist" in the early soviet union, you have all these people trying to be as superficially progressive as possible in order to increase their social visibility. As such they don't think of the consequences because all that matters is that they don't look "conservative" to others.
There's been an attempt at an economic justification in the form of these migrants becoming cheap labor. This is absurd since if that were the case then france should be the most competitive most successful nation in europe considering the massive amount of migrants living just outside of paris (the banlieues) and yet that country's economy has been sagging for years. There have been several warnings from african and arab leaders that the current wave of immigrants are the lowest strata of their society with a heavy criminal element and almost no education. To expect they will become honest hardworking citizens its a big stretch no matter how you look at it.
Also there seems to be a classic case of a political power vacuum: because euro leaders couldn't find a way out of the current crisis they are resorting to anything to win political approval and thus votes. Of course one has to wonder what they expect from this given that the backlash of such asylum policies is already been seen as negative by nearly all even outside of europe.
Lastly I think its the current situation has a lot in common with the cuban migration crisis of the 1980s which also had a heavy political element given than the united states was trying to undermine communism as much as they could while the cuban lobby pressured for those migrants to be given asylum almost automatically. However unlike the wave after the revolution the one in the 1980s had little to do with political prisoners and more about cuba just getting rid of bad elements, mainly criminal ones. The castros famously said they had flushed the toilets of havana in miami, and to that followed nearly a decade characterized for high crime rates, grizzly murders and mobsters running anything from drugs, prostitutes and money laundering all over south florida.
Difference is the one from cuba were 125,000 (of which only a fraction stayed in miami) while the current one in europe could easily get to a million or more
Occult Psychopolitics
We already have one thread focusing on the psychological techniques used in cults, and another about conspiratorial (functionally occulted) politics. This thread deals with an area that requires even more subtlety and teasing out.The Occult: the historical tradition, individual experience and social strata involved with magic and secret knowledge.
The core axiom of many Occult traditions is that reality is a mental phenomenon, responsive to certain actions in a way that would be revelatory to the common man.
This intersects with psychopolitics in curious ways. To anybody who has studied them in depth, the occult schools all over the world are clearly mired in straightforward psychological manipulations. Many of them are cults, subject to more refined versions of the techniques used in more obvious cults. In the West, Masonry lays claim both to being an heir to the Mystery Traditions of Babylon and to being the glue which binds certain structures of power and world-building together. (For the former, see Manly P. Hall. For the latter, see 'Builders of Empire').
Similarly, the occult seems interwoven with power structures, which surely are interwoven with the exigencies driving psychopolitical technique. The present and past heads of the grand Lodge of British Masonry are Princes, and the logos of MI5 and other intelligence agencies are indisputably speaking the same language as the /32/nd and higher 'occult' degrees of Freemasonry.
Further, the Occult challenges the very definition of psychopolitics. A modern might perceive it as being about scientific and tactical manipulation of perceptions within the confines of the Physical universe. But an occultist often regards reality our civilisation itself as a magical manipulation of perception, in which the manipulations are not only deceptions, but actually also change the structure of reality. It's interesting to note that the Royal Society and other authoritative bodies central to the development of materialist science were filled with higher degree Masons who, privately in their Masonic lodges, engaged in 'secret rituals' predicated upon an acceptance of occult mentalism.
The Occult is a hard topic to approach from the right angle. Usually, it seems to be tumbled into headlong and without the kind of discernment that could enable profitable navigation. The public "Occult" groups that can be easily joined in the West seem largely to lack power, be suited to and be dull. Political groups with public presence rarely seem "Occult", and the conspiracy theories where both converge seem riddled with plebeian folly and Neitzsche's Slave Morality.
/fringe/, another board on 8chan, approaches the topic with a strong focus on belief in mentalism and the use of its power to be a 'Wizard' far above the 'mundanes' who do not understand. It also seems to emphasise glamorous justifications of the circumstances socially unsuccessful and virginal males find themselves in. Whether they are right or not, perhaps a psychopolitical focus would reveal other aspects.
For example, Renaissance hermeticism and Scientific Experimentalism both grew out the same Renaissance, and were both cemented in Northern Europe by the same Reformation. So scientific experimentalism isn't perhaps as alien in spirit to power players involved in Occult Psycohpolitics in the same way it seems distant to many 'spiritually' incline rebels like /fringe/. Perhaps experimental results would even be seen as continuous and compatible with the true, occult, view on reality. Or perhaps the manipulation of people's 'spiritual' psychology has been enhanced greatly by new experimental data.
Apologies for the possibly ponderous introduction, but it seems paramount to get off to the right start in as complex a topic as this.
Cybernetics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macy_conferences
An interesting participant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joost_A._M._Meerloo
>Meerloo specialized in the area of thought control techniques used by totalitarian regimes.
>One of the best books that cracks the code on what we are living through was written by Dutch psychiatrist Joost A. M. Meerloo about 60 years ago. Mull over the first line of his book’s forward, and you will think he is writing about today: “This book attempts to depict the strange transformation of the free human mind into an automatically responding machine – a transformation which can be brought about by some of the cultural undercurrents in our present-day society as well as by deliberate experiments in the service of a political ideology.”
When it comes to understanding the inner workings of social psychology and political correctness, we seem to be at a loss.
>That’s from “The Rape of the Mind: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing” (1956).
Funny how Meerloo warned of the group's efforts, more or less.
Please post everything you know about the Macy Conferences and any speculations. What was done with the research? Who is continuing this line of research now?
Fundamental Psychopolitical Problems
The fundamental problem of economics is scarcity, that is: there is a finite amount of resources that are available to satisfy an infinite amount of human needs and wants. All economic theories, systems and projections take this problem into account, and seek to manage it as best they can. Perhaps we can find something similar for psychopolitics.
Government statements and information releases are all carefully planned to give it the right spin, from the way they are worded to the moment they are published. There are also obvious limitations to the information they are willing to make public, and even outright fabrications.
Journalism is not necessarily better. Although journalists believe that they are impartial, the companies only survive because of advertising or paid subscription, both of which are based on audience. This causes them to consider what kind of story and delivery generates the most interest. Since time and other resources are limited, this means that stories considered unimportant are not covered, and whoever determines what story is or isn't important holds power over the flow of information. Every form of organization of news has some sort of bias, a good deal of them probably not intentionally added, such as the order in which stories are presented, to the way they are worded, or the time/space dedicated to it.
Unofficial information is also not particularly trustworthy, with no concern for fact-checking or accountability. "underground" news sources are often more biased than the official ones, with their marginal and sometimes anti-status quo position being a central theme in all of their reporting. Rumors and anecdotes coming from individuals who don't see themselves as sources of information suffer from the same shortcomings.
Even in the impossible event that an unbiased source of information was developed or discovered, there would still be the problem of language. Language is the attempt of humans to transmit data to one another, but in order to do so they must first "put into words" this data, be it feelings, perceptions, thoughts or observations. The words used, and the rules under which they are combined are but simple materials with which we represent what we are trying to transmit. In the same way that a painting will never be a perfect representation of a landscape, the words will always fall short of that which they mean. This is not to say that our communication suffers greatly because of this on a daily basis: in the same way that humans developed screens that blink series of images at a very high frequency in order to simulate movement, language has evolved into a somewhat effective means of transmitting simple information. The real problem arises when complex descriptions must be passed on, or when one tries to explain an abstract concept. The latter is crucial, as abstract concepts (such as political theories and philosophical notions) are some of the most important pieces of information for the survival and development of human civilization. It would not be wrong to say that the ability to conjure abstract ideas and transmit them is one of the main factors that differentiates us from animals, capable of using language only to describe their surroundings or feelings.
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Current 8chan raids
It seems to me that current 8chan raids/drama are effective psychological warfare (probably by Goons).http://fullchan4jtta4sx.onion/baphomet/res/77143.html
/32/ is generally impartial, of course. But I think what the Goons (maybe) are doing is pretty interesting. They're using the basic techniques you can see described in the NSA slides on cyber-magic to tear the site apart and leverage its user bases against one another in astroturf raids.
I was just confused at first. Didn't know what was happening, because of the general confusion and mystery and because of the false polarity (Hegel yay!) of rules vs. anti-rules factions, and of 8chan board vs. 8chan board. But if you look at the division techniques being used, they're fairly simple, if elegant.
This thread for study of current (and maybe general) 8chan raid and manipulation events.
Pining For the Fnords
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/24/nydwracus-fnords/
https://nithgrim.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/more-fnords/
>Last week, some Internet magazine published the latest attempt at the genre of Did You Know Neoreaction Exists You Should Be Outraged. A couple of reactionaries wrote the usual boring “actually, nothing you said was true, why would you say false things?” responses. Nydwracu, a frequent commenter on this blog, did something I thought was much more interesting. He wrote a post called Fnords where he removed all of the filler words and transitions between ideas and thin veneer of argument until he stripped the essay down to the bare essentials.
This is a fascinating concept I'd love to see applied in a more objective/methodical manner.
Anonymity and Collectivism
Maybe anonymity makes people more collectivist because you can't be distinguished from anybody else.
I'm going to recall an experience I had on 8chan but bear in mind that I can't remember exactly:
>There was a thread on /pol/ by a person coming from Reddit where OP says about how he doesn't like the lack of karma and identity on anonymous forums because he can't gauge the popularity of his comment and opinions.
>Two anons replied saying that anonymity means being part of a collective and losing your individuality.
National Socialism and Communism are ideologies that are common on 8chan and they are collectivist I think, Libertarians aside.
I also found a thread that I think might be of interest: >>>/4chonr9k/1729
I will post a few bits of random pertinent information because I am like many of you.
I wish you all the best in this crazy world. Try to -do- good. God knows the world needs it.
> My posts will merely be points of interest that YOU should further research on your own. Never take anyone's word for it and use intelligent discretion. You will need to employ both right and left brain thinking and understand symbolic language to have a real grasp on things. Feel free to contribute information on any tangent I provide.
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To start lets look at states within states nicely marked for us with beautiful ancient Egyptian obelisks.
The Washington Monument
> Center of World Politics
The Vatican
> Center of World Religious influence
The City of London
> Financial Center of the World
Nationalism and Its Effects on Peace in Europe
With global crisis, unemployment, dissatisfaction, poverty and intolerance has increased and with it also nationalism. Political parties with nationalist platforms are rising and gaining more support around the world and Europe is no exception.
In Spain, Italy, and the United Kingdom and across Europe we can see the rise of the right. The financial crisis in the Eurozone and beyond has triggered rising of nationalists and far-right political parties.
The European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) on 9th of July released a report about the dramatic increase in anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, online hate speech and xenophobic political discourse as the main trends in 2014.
Nationalism can be positive with legitimacy, promotion of nations and inspiration for citizens or negative by creating tensions between different ethnicity and groups in or outside the country. Some negative aspects of ideology or political movement can be seen in the latest football matches in the Balkans, where supporters of team groups have burned many national flags and hooliganism that is the result of long lasting hatred and nationalism on the ground. Every country has its own history and different positions, but stilI similarities could be found.
The country all news is regarding to in recent times is Greece. A known slogan “Greece for Greeks” is well known in its anti-austerity party. Attacks against minorities and immigrants with racism are seen in one of the European Union (EU) members. Golden Dawn neo-Nazi party is linked to hundreds of violent attacks against minorities.
It is known for anti-immigration, racist-nationalist worldview. With elections being held this year in January the party captured 6.3% of the vote and 17 senate seats in Hellenic parliament and become the country’s third largest party. In 2014 the party won 9.4% of votes in European parliamentary election and with it 3 seats out of 21.
The party has been put on a trial this year for its criminal activity.
Nationalism in Greece has divided citizens and noncitizens to us and them and created the gap between both. With the economic crisis, Greeks debt, overall economic meltdown, unemployment and increasing number of refugees from different countries, the party led by Nikos Michaloliakos has gained more support and caused even greater intolerance to foreign people in need. Unfortunately, they are not the only one spreading intolerance. Many politicians have a stance against immigrants, which shapes the Greeks’ attitude towards nationalism.
Words and expressions.
We all know about the continuous effort to distort the meaning of most fundamental words like love, hate, male, female, freedom, power, etc. But what about other word related games played by the so called elite? Have you ever stumbled upon words that seem to be connected by some kind of a pattern? What about expressions? Some of them may have different meanings than what is commonly understood among the general public.Let me get right to the point and present some of my suspicions:
1. Generation 'X', generation 'Y'. This expression implies that generation 'Z' will eventually come into existence. Now, 'z' is the last letter of the alphabet. So, last generation to have consciousness/free will? The ones that turn the lights off after leaving a room (old world order)? The last generation of natural humans that will be replaced by brainchipped/pharmacologically lobotomized slaves?
2. Some words containing the word 'con' (fraud): control, conspiracy, economy, consumerism, conceal, conditioning, conformism, confusion, congress, icon. Indeed, we are conned by them all every day.
3. Some words containing the word 'cult': culture, subculture, cultivation (of the mind), occult.
4. The word 'fashion' - to fashion something = to shape something.
5. The word 'monopoly' - mono-poly - one/many = one out of many, out of many - one.
All of this sounds vague, so I'm not claiming that it's ultimate truth. Just something to ponder upon.
Let me know what you think. And please do share your word related findings or theories.
Hypersexualization of children
I think we are all aware of the current movement to activate children's sexuality at a very early age. Clearly this has psychological ramifications to all parties involved.To what end? What is the purpose of turning children into sluts? What could be gained by the people putting this plan in motion?
A couple ideas:
-The destruction of the family unit
-The destruction of societal morality
-The destruction of self-control
-The creation of a sense of futility
-The adoption of wide spread depravity
-The total collapse of the Western Empire
If we agree on the life cycles of Empires.....
1. The age of outburst (or pioneers).
2. The age of conquests.
3. The age of commerce.
4. The age of affluence.
5. The age of intellect.
6. The age of decadence.
7. The age of decline and collapse.
....than maybe this is just another weapon of our enemies?
WHY!?
Sickening Fibras Increase memetic energies?
Resistance training to maintain and improve lean body mass has the most benefits
Cardiovascular health benefits best from weight training; more than endurance cardiovscular
>They found that men with high grip strength had a decreased risk of mortality; 23 percent lower for every 1 standard deviation (15 kg) increase in grip strength.
>Women with higher grip strength had a 19 percent decreased risk of mortality for every 1 standard deviation (10 kg) increase in grip strength.
>Researchers used to think that overweight elderly people had a higher risk of dying, but recent studies have shown that both overweight and underweight elderly people are more likely to die. More and more epidemiologists are therefore coming to the conclusion that it’s not bodyweight that determines how long you are likely to live, but lean body mass.
>We have shown that using typical resistance machines—three days a week at a moderate intensity (65 percent of your 10-repetition maximum) for three sets and 10 repetitions can lead to heart benefits," says Collier. He also adds that one should complete reps at a slow rate to get the most effective workout from the equipment.
Does having a high level of fitness increase our capacity for memetic warfare?
Christianity
Interesting that this is the only religion overly criminalized. I mean; aren't all popular beliefs made up, we just don't know.
Probably christianity was as well established for profit gains only, but the idea was blurred through years, and the concept is still, in fact the same, but no one, not even the churches know about so. The project, as I may call 'The Christianity Promulgation Project' was supposedly forsaken by everyone related. It's not only a plan of earnings, but influence and general control. Who doesn't control the society as much as Christians? Burning a Christian bible will cause a worldwide outrage, the opponent will be penalized. You can't stand up Christians today, most people will stand up against you, even if they pray rarely. They are Christians on principle.
Just Wars
It is apparent that most current wars are not motivated by the improvement or protection of the life of the people, but by commercial interests. The companies responsible for developing military equipment, supporting military operations and rebuilding invaded countries have influence orders of magnitude above that of the people who are supposed to be represented by the state. This influence can be in the form of simple financial rewards or in deals involving influence and power.
Is it possible to educate the population at large about the commercial aspect of war, or is the patriotic conditioning too strong in most people? If so, how?
Is the increase in the use of private military contractors an indicator of these hidden interests, or is it a natural and logical development in warfare?
Is the targeting of young, low-income, poorly educated men by the recruiting apparatus morally reprehensible, or are they merely offering another option to a demographic that has few of them?
WhiteRabbitRadio - Practical Politics
This is a podcast highly recommended for fellow political veil-lifters:
http://whiterabbitradio.net/podcast-2
It begins with highly informative and perspective changing material concerning active measures demoralization (think Yuri), consensus thinking (all is lost) vs. empowered thinking, and practical politics (i.e. talking-points over useless and giving the left the moral authority through argumentation, backpedalling and apologizing).
Feel free to post any audio resources you have found meaningful.
Short Messages
Our limited capacity to recall information consciously frequently causes long messages to be erroneously recollected, and therefore transmitted. This can be dealt with by condensing one's thoughts into short messages with impact, such as aphorisms and slogans. Not only does this facilitate memorization, but if the individual agrees with the idea being transmitted and likes the way it is depicted in the message, the message itself is more likely to be repeated and consequently memorized by more individuals (because repetition is important for memorization). It is also noteworthy that this tactic (the use of slogans) has been used by cults and political movements all over the world.
What I suggest is that we practice this by writing short messages about psychopolitical topics, sentences or groups of sentences that can be quoted in conversations, both online and in person. We should also look for quotes by famous people regarding the topic, and critique each other's messages.
Here are my attempts:
The most difficult and important part of learning is opening yourself to the possibility that what you know is wrong.
Naturally this does not apply to everyone. While study is meaningless if one is unwilling to accept that one's current knowledge is either insufficient or wrong (making the "important" part true), it can be more difficult to have access to some information than to accept it. Still, this was written with a particular demographic in mind: people interested in politics and science who have access to the internet, meaning that the access to a certain piece of information is unlikely to be the hardest part of learning. The use of "most" adds impact to the phrase, and the use of "you" instead of "one" makes it more personal.
Oversimplification is one of the most widely used and effective manipulation tactics.
The use of the word "manipulation" instead of "rhetoric" or something to that effect makes the message more dramatic and memorable. "most widely used and effective" also serves to cause the reader to look for examples around him, either to prove or disprove this, but either way paying more attention to his information environment. There is also a chance that the irony of oversimplifying such a statement can be perceived consciously and generate further discussion.
If you don't control your mind, someone else will. -John Allston
Here the author makes a warning, which is intended to draw alarm and inspire a change in behavior. Once again the use of "you" instead of "one" makes the message more personal, while the choice of the vague "someone" instead of a more specific and malignant agent allows the reader to insert his perceived threat/enemy in that role.
Sources:
http://www.douglaserice.com/memorable-slogans/
http://www.jar.warc.com/ArticleCenter/default.asp?ID=99032&Type=Article
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1995-31346-001
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10641734.1994.10505018
Cultural Divisions in modern America
America is not a single country. America is an empire that contains many increasingly divided cultures.
The media/academic/corporate elite are increasing insular, and largely live in enclaves within whatever cultural region they inhabit.
Do you think there's any way to mend the cultural gap or is secession inevitable?
Is there a similar phenomena in other nations any non-American /32/ers could inform us about?
Any non-obvious examples of how these divides lead to media/policy bias?
Further reading:
http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Apart-State-America-1960-2010/dp/030745343X
http://francistapon.com/Travels/Western-Europe/Defending-American-Ignorance
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/castes-of-united-states.html
http://athousandnations.com/2013/11/17/the-new-american-nations/
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/who-are-us-policy-elites.html
UFOs
Y'all would be very interested in UFOs. I recently have had a renewed interest in the subject. I am discovering that, despite what I have always assumed, there are actually many, many reputable eyewitness accounts.
Studying UFOs has allowed me a new perspective on psychopolitics, let me explain.
Read the eyewitness accounts or at least read documents that accurately summarize such accounts, and then read wikipedia, or watch a mainstream video on UFOs.
Here are some things you will notice:
They allow a lot of kooks to dominate the discussion, thereby discrediting any discussion of UFOs (think ancient aliens and youtube hoax videos).
Most mainstream media carefully frame events so as to make it appear that the official, non-ET explanation is the overwhelmingly likely hypothesis. Wikipedia is a good example of this. They do cover both sides but the subtle manipulations are there.
When I think of almost every movie that deals with "first contact," I .always find something that is directly based on an actual reported event. Battle LA was based on a reputed UFO shelling over LA, The Fifth Element has a scene in which an alien paralyzes a human at first contact by "glaring" (flashing eyes) at him (which occurred at the Voronezh UFO incident), and of course the flying saucers and little green men all over the media, which are actually the most reported types of UFOs and UFO occupants (although the occupants are actually quite diverse). Close Encounters of the Third Kind is also consistent with its treatment of UFOs IIRC. Stargate SG 1 involves US reverse engineering of alien technology and other events that some UFOlogists believe are actually happening. Obviously they might be trying to be realistic, but there might also be a motive of hiding the reality by associating it with fantasy.
I'm just beginning to read into some reports, but already I'm learning some crazy stuff that the general public does not know, even though most of it is available in your public library stacks, which is where I get most of my information. (The general public is so conditioned to not believe in UFOs or ETs that they aren't really curious.) For instance, people have been reportedly killed by UFOs. One was a pilot who intercepted a UFO, and also at least one person who was hit by a UFO's ray (UFO's rays reputedly often paralyze the victims harmlessly but sometimes produce aftereffects). There is even a document on the NSA's website which is a report saying that the UFO phenomenon is likely extraterrestrial in nature, or a mass hallucination so powerful and persistent that it requires dedicated study in its own right. Basically a previously unheard-of form of psychosis is happening in wide ranges of reputable people, or we are being visited by extraterrestrials. Google NSA UFO Survival Hypothesis.
Here is another thought experiment which I think helps convince one that multiple alien civilizations are probably visiting Earth. You've probably heard of the Drake equation. Any intelligent person should be able to understand that in our universe, if not our galaxy, there are other intelligent civilizations. There are just too many stars for the same conditions on Earth to not arise elsewhere. So then you could add another variable to the drake equation, which is the probability of interstellar or intergalactic travel. 0 would be interstellar travel is impossible, 1 would be intergalactic, fast travel is possible. If any range of travel is possible, even 0.01 then aliens are probably visiting Earth, as it is in the nature of intelligent beings to explore. Now we can certainly envision slower than light travel, and if an alien civilization is old enough, it could have sent ships to this star system early enough for them to have a base here (one estimate pegged a trip to Alpha Centauri at 100 years). So, even within the current range of conceivable technology, alien civilizations are likely to be here. As the range and speed possible increases, so does the probability of alien contact. I personally believe that it is a given that at least one civilization will in the future visit our solar system. Whether they have already or are currently is about 90%. It's like a disease contagion, you know it's there it just a matter of probability if it will strike.
Another thing I have learned about human psychology, and this is actually related to /32/ unlike the previous paragraph, is that the cover up and denial of ETs is totally predictably human. When I was younger and more "blue pill" I would not have believed that UFOs would really be so prevalent and the government and media would hush it up, but given the increased understanding of propaganda and persuasion I now have, I now understand how it could happen. When you learn how socially programmed humans are and how we readily discount evidence, it makes sense.
More Rapes in Britain
Story for those who haven't read it yet
Alright I'm so done with this, I'm completely done with doing the bare minimum. It feels like the world grows more insane every day as these events are allowed to take place.
I'm aware there are groups that spawned out of /pol/ as early as 2012 to do psy-ops of their own but they're secretive and on their own way.
What is the best method to break this fearful mentality that seems to grip white people? It seems that simply reporting things is not enough, especially since it is being surpressed.
there has to be a better method that turns people faster, I want to learn whatever I can. Throughout the years I've already convinced family and friends, and some aquaintences but its not enough.
I apologize if my post seems a bit dischorded, I'm extremely angry after reading this.
I understand this isn't 100% best place to ask this
Unfortunately I only browse this board and pol, so I feel the question is better asked here. I have been watching documentaries or speeches that speak of symbols and signs. The semiotic thread got me interested in signs and I have been watching a few jordan maxwell videos. He studies way back and finds certain signs have been used again and again. I don't know if there is any set thing to study but I am hoping maybe I can find some path from here even though its a huge longshot.
Is there any study of signs throughout time with meanings throughout time?
/intl/: An example of the ease of mass manipulation
I'm not sure how aware all of you are about the current shitstorm 8chan is undergoing - I don't really expect most people to give a shit about imageboard drama - but I think it's something really relevant that's worthy of examination. If you're unaware, here's a brief summary of the situation:
Back in December/January, /int/ was basically undergoing a period of quality posting, both in developing a board culture and having light discussions. By February, this began to change, mostly because the board owner (who was friends with and given control of /int/ by Hotwheels) started to purposefully run the board into the ground. Hotwheels himself also played a large part in turning the board into a shitshow. Eventually we got fed up with it, and about a month ago most of us migrated over to /intl/, with a new hotwheels-free owner. We've spent the last month trying to recover the board culture we'd lost, and just as things were starting to get better, the current bullshit started. As you probably know, Reddit mods started banning several subreddits, which caused many redditors to migrate here. The most significant was the 'fatpeoplehate' community, which quickly became one of the largest boards on 8chan. At this point, dozens of 8chan regulars started to spam the board, which caused others, Hotwheels included, to become angry that this 'new migration' was being stunted and so many new users were being lost (because the 2nd exodus was such a boon to us, right?). Hotwheels took advantage of that anger and basically accused /intl/ users of doing all of the raiding. This was blatantly untrue (there were maybe 2 or 3 /intl/ users tops, and certainly no organized raiding), as well as unprovable. However, most of this site's users really knew nothing about /intl/, and assumed it was just a shitposting board, and believed Hotwheel's bullshit (Something similar has happened in the past as well - back when we still used /int/, /pol/ somehow became convinced that all the users were a bunch of Something Awful users who had come to ruin 8chan.). Hotwheels then encouraged everyone to go shit up /intl/ (just look at /b/, there's still a raid sticky up right now), and now he's made the board owner resign and be replaced with another of his IRC circlejerk friends.
Overall, I think this whole affair is a perfect example of just how easy a ruler can take advantage of uneducated masses for his own personal benefit. /intl/ wasn't the first board Hotwheels took over in this manner, either - he did the same thing to /sp/ as well. This site is very rapidly going the way 4chan did, and I'm not sure how much longer it'll last.
ARG? hoax? conspiracy? none of the above?
the deaths of two lovers which resulted in numerous conspiracy theories, involving scientology, media giants, new technology, shadowy government figures, some say it was a complex alternate reality game?
http://www.constantinereport.com/topic/series/duncan-and-blake/
http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.de/2008/02/duncan-blake-suicides-solved.html
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/suicides200801
http://blackbag.gawker.com/the-scientology-conspiracy-theory-about-two-artists-go-1691694049
http://xdell.blogspot.de/2012_11_01_archive.html
http://xdell.blogspot.de/search/label/theremy
Duncan's blog
To the Point of Absurdity
Recently, I have established a minor subversive element within a particular socio-political movement. Essentially, I have created a product/brand, have begun to establish networks within the target audience, and hope to eventually make a decent cash flow from the product via the target audience. It has come at no cost to me, using entirely free sites such as Society6, Twitter, and Tumblr. The product is a series of shirts with slogans and associated artwork.My intentions being: To take the revenue from the product which will derive from Group A, and give a great deal of the profits to charities which benefit Group B.
My secondary objective with this product, is to take the "memes" of Group A, and to amplify them as close to absurdity as possible.
To summarize:
-I belong to Group B
-My target audience is Group A
-I take in revenue from Group A, posing as a member of Group A
-I then give percentage of profit to Group B via charity.
-Simultaneously, given nature of the medium, I am in a position to amplify the slogans of Group A to points of absurdity, there-by minimizing the effect of Group A on larger society.
It's a drop in the bucket, but still something which affects the physical world.
I assume most of us on here probably hold similar political end-goals. Besides doing something drastic, and going all Lee Harvey Oswald, I can think of no better way to influence current society than by monetary attrition.
I apologize for the general terms, but /32/ is a board for psychopolitics, not politics.
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Let this thread be one for discussion of our real world methods of subversion? Keep it a-political, this is /32/ after all.
To get the discussion started, I was wondering if anyone has any good material as far as social media marketing is concerned? Marketing is perhaps my weakest point.
Here's a fun thread
Take a very long-winded, unappealing document and memify it in a way that will make it more accessible/interesting and thus more likely to be read. This falls under "Study memes, from their creation to their final effect. Possible experiment with meme creation,".
I'll start.
document is this: http://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/17/the-greenbaum-speech/
>tfw no gf and Nathaniel Rothschad has literally thousands of "Beta" sex slaves
Propaganda, controlling people, etc
So guys, I have to write 300-500 words on how I can see examples of the following in our world today:·The idea that science and technology can be used to control people.
·How propoganda can be used to control people.
·How money, advertising and propoganda can manipulate voters.
and my first thought was that you guys would know the most about that. So what examples ARE there?
Dark Patterns
Here's an interesting site I stumbled across:
>A Dark Pattern is a user interface that has been carefully crafted to trick users into doing things, such as buying insurance with their purchase or signing up for recurring bills.
>Normally when you think of “bad design”, you think of the creator as being sloppy or lazy but with no ill intent. This type of bad design is known as a “UI anti-pattern”. Dark Patterns are different – they are not mistakes, they are carefully crafted with a solid understanding of human psychology, and they do not have the user’s interests in mind. We as designers, founders, UX & UI professionals and creators need to take a stance against Dark Patterns.
Vulnerability to Coercion & Manipulation
On this thread, let us speculate on what makes an individual more or less vulnerable to coercion and manipulation.First, a brief exposition of my views of the workings of the mind.
The human brain works much like a computer: there is an input of information, there is a process, and there is an output of behavior. The behavior is, therefore, based on two factors: the information that comes in, and the way it is interpreted and processed. This second factor depends on the physiological characteristics of the brain (determined by genetics and development), and the initial programming, the so called “primary socialization” that occurs in small children (from learning the language to starting school). The first factor (the information input) is too general to be discussed here.
Now, how will we define coercion/manipulation for the purpose of this thread? Coercion is the act of using pressure to force a behavior, while manipulation is a more general form of behavior control, including any sort of dishonest action aimed at influencing behavior in a desired way. Bot take advantage of the basic process outlined above: information (be it a threat or disinformation) comes in, it is processed, and there is a behavior. In the case of a threat, the information is “do this otherwise there will be dire consequences”, so the desired behavior is clearly outlined and the interpretation of the information is minimal. The problem with overt coercion is that the subject knows that it is being forced to do something, so it will have negative feeling towards the coercer in the future, which can be very problematic. In the case of manipulation, the manipulator understands the parameters the subject uses to process information, and so he feeds the subject with lies, or adulterated truth in order to make him produce a determined behavioral output. This demands much more skill, but it can achieve much more with less risk for the manipulator.
1/4
It seems to me that one of the biggest problems we have is that we aren't even sure that we aren't being manipulated right now.
The suggestion has been made that our exodus was just another phase in the Puppetmaster's plan. A plan which is probably not over yet.
If we are to fight back we have to first try to figure out what the facts are. After that we can deduce who the Puppetmaster might be and what their ultimate goal is.
So I propose that we use this thread as a place to collect verifiable facts and first hand accounts. We should also do some investigating to determine the current state of things first hand. Go to some of these sites and pose as newfags to get an idea about the opinions of the communities
Captology
>Captology is the study of computers as persuasive technologies. This includes the design, research, and analysis of interactive computing products (computers, mobile phones, websites, wireless technologies, mobile applications, video games, etc.) created for the purpose of changing people’s attitudes or behaviors. BJ Fogg derived the term captology in 1996 from an acronym: Computers As Persuasive Technologies = CAPT.>Although captology has been on the periphery of various fields for years–including HCI, education, advertising, and health promotion–it has never been a key focus for any discipline. Thanks to the SIG program, CHI'97 now provides the HCI community with an opportunity to begin exploring captology as its own area of inquiry, including both theoretical and practical issues.
-CHI97, 1997
http://old.sigchi.org/chi97/proceedings/sig/bjf.htm
http://www.behaviormodel.org/triggers.html
Advertising and Morality
Is advertising intrinsically immoral?
By "advertising" I mean presenting a product (or idea) in a simplified way that places it in a positive light, in the hope of generating interest and demand.
One could point out the lies by omission (e.g. "contains natural fruit" when the fruit is less than 1% of the total), the appeals to subliminal stimuli, the association of a popular symbol with the product to make it more appealing, and so on. Depending on how you see it, the advertiser often insults the target by being condescending, in the sense that they expect the audience to buy something not because of its merits but because there are attractive people smiling while using it.
Can we qualify these tactics as "fair game"?
Should manufacturers be restricted to showcasing the characteristics of the products and services in the most impartial way possible?
What about advertising that targets children specifically, is that a greater offense or a savvier tactic?
Humanities and Social Sciences
Hello, I created an Humanities and Social Sciences board. I will upload books, articles and historic material for anyone that's interested in the historic discipline. If you want to share more material and discuss different subjects, you're invited and encouraged to do it. This is a very interesting board, so any kind of external perspective would be very welcomed.
Also if talking about other boards is forbidden because you don't want people spamming, I'm really sorry and I'll delete the thread.
META "How to legalize anything"
I found this text about the Overton Window but it is in Spanish. It is a step-by-step example of how to legalize cannibalism. It would be wonderful if we could get it translated to english for easier understanding and to post it eventually in other sites.
"¿Cómo legalizar cualquier fenómeno, desde la eutanasia hasta el canibalismo?
Evgueni Gorzhaltsán
En la actual sociedad de la tolerancia, que no tiene ideales fijos y, como resultado, tampoco una clara división entre el bien y el mal, existe una técnica que permite cambiar la actitud popular hacia conceptos considerados totalmente inaceptables.
Esta técnica, llamada “la ventana Overton” y que consiste en una secuencia concreta de acciones con el fin de conseguir el resultado deseado, “puede ser más eficaz que la carga nuclear como arma para destruir comunidades humanas”, opina el columnista Evgueni Gorzhaltsán.
En su artículo en el portal Adme, pone el ejemplo radical de cómo convertir en aceptable la idea de legalizar el canibalismo paso a paso, desde la fase en que se considera una acción repugnante e impensable, completamente ajena a la moral pública, hasta convertirse en una realidad aceptada por la conciencia de masas y la ley. Eso no se consigue mediante un lavado de cerebro directo, sino en técnicas más sofisticadas que son efectivas gracias a su aplicación coherente y sistemática sin que la sociedad se dé cuenta del proceso, cree Gorzhaltsán.
Primera etapa: de lo impensable a lo radical
Obviamente, actualmente la cuestión de la legalización del canibalismo se encuentra en el nivel más bajo de aceptación en la “ventana de posibilidades” de Overton, ya que la sociedad lo considera como un fenómeno absurdo e impensable, un tabú.
Para cambiar esa percepción, se puede, amparándose en la libertad de expresión, trasladar la cuestión a la esfera científica, pues para los científicos normalmente no hay temas tabú. Por lo tanto, es posible celebrar, por ejemplo, un simposio etnológico sobre rituales exóticos de las tribus de la Polinesia y discutir la historia del tema de estudio y obtener declaraciones autorizadas sobre el canibalismo, garantizando así la transición de la actitud negativa e intransigente de la sociedad a una actitud más positiva.
Simultáneamente, hay que crear algún grupo radical de caníbales, aunque exista solo en Internet, que seguramente será advertido y citado por numerosos medios de comunicación. Como resultado de la primera etapa de Overton, el tabú desaparece y el tema inaceptable empieza a discutirse.
Segunda etapa: de lo radical a lo aceptable En esta etapa, hay que seguir citando a los científicos, argumentando que uno no puede blindarse a tener conocimientos sobre el canibalismo, ya que si alguna persona se niega a hablar de ello será considerado un hipócrita intolerante.
Al condenar la intolerancia, también es necesario crear un eufemismo para el propio fenómeno para disociar la esencia de la cuestión de su denominación, separar la palabra de su significado. Así, el canibalismo se convierte en “antropofagia”, y posteriormente en “antropofilia”.
Paralelamente, se puede crear un precedente de referencia, histórico, mitológico, contemporáneo o simplemente inventado, pero lo más importante es que sea legitimado, para que pueda ser utilizado como prueba de que la antropofilia en principio puede ser legalizada.
Tercera etapa: de lo aceptable a lo sensato
Para esa etapa, es importante promover ideas como las siguientes: “el deseo de comer personas está genéticamente justificado”, “a veces una persona tiene que recurrir a eso, si se dan circunstancias apremiantes” o “un hombre libre tiene el derecho de decidir qué come”.
Los adversarios reales a esos conceptos, es decir, la gente de a pie que no quiere ser indiferente al problema, intencionadamente se convierten para la opinión pública en enemigos radicales cuyo papel es representar la imagen de psicópatas enloquecidos, oponentes agresivos de la antropofilia que llaman a quemar vivos a los caníbales, junto con otros representantes de las minorías.
Expertos y periodistas en esta etapa demuestran que durante la historia de la humanidad siempre hubo ocasiones en que las personas se comían unas a otras, y que eso era normal."
how do you make a foundation for your self?
I wish I knew how to think for myself. I've heard people promoting the trivium and the quadrivium, but where does self-regulation of physical and mental processes come into that?I'm also hesitant to commit to any path without fully understanding the implications. eg: Gnostics believing in the demiurge. Perhaps it's true, but I'm not going to subscribe to the belief just because I might have a grudge against reality. I need a stronger base than that fallible feelings.
I doubt even the Discordians are entirely formless. At the very least they must have a system based on "maybe yes, maybe no".
I mean, there are plenty of people who build misguided foundations off of religion or whatever neurosis they have, but I want more.
Even the people who promote the trivium and quadrivium seem to be fallible nuts. I don't know. Maybe it's because they're trying to build up cults. Maybe they have better odds of getting those niche conspiracy buffs than trying to compete with the big boys for the Plebeians. Whatever.
I've got some patience to hear out crazy people, but my patience has a limit. I'm also seldom inspired by what anyone has to say any more. It's not interesting. I'm tired of people making claims that they expect me to believe. "Buy my book! Take my word for its value!" No.
Thoughts on the term "SJW"
I've noticed this label explode in popularity over the last few years. Prior to that everyone was happy to complain about "liberals," when suddenly we were complaining about "SJWs" overnight. Even the Reddit userbase seems to be in favor of the term.
Personally, I don't like it for several reasons:
1) It's inapt. SJWs don't want social justice, and it's ridiculous to call them warriors. Even if it's meant ironically, it still poses a problem because...
2) It's meaningless to the vast population of normal people who aren't intimately familiar with Internet slang. You can tell your computer illiterate Boomer parents or redneck coworkers about "limousine liberals," "hipsters," or "radical leftists" and they'll have a decent idea what sort of person you mean, whereas if you talk about "social justice warriors," they might think you're referring to Catholic aid workers or something.
3) It's a clunky acronym that doesn't roll off the tongue very well.
Despite this, it seems like the Internet is captivated with these three letters. It's becoming the de facto label for cultural Marxists. What is it about the term that's so appealing? Does anyone know where and when it was coined?
Control and conditioning
Greetings /32/, I have some thoughts I'd like to share with you today.
This is going to be a lot of text so bear with me.
I've come to understand the system of control the elite use on us, and I'd like to share with you my pondering and observations.
The current system of control is near flawless, using suggestion of single ideas and stimuli, that when met with other ideas form a calculated behavior and outcome.
Ever wonder why the majority of western young women seem to be all borderline personality disorder?
Well they all share something in common, see almost all were exposed to Disney movies at a young age, and of course federal schooling programs.
Very simple things that on their own seem totally normal, but combined create something nasty.
These films generally pitch to young girls that they are special princesses by virtue of existence, and should not only be treated as such, but are also strong, unique, and many other nice things.
This has the effect of making a brat out of a little girl, especially when mixed with increasingly consumerist holidays like Christmas.
I've seen it countless times were a normal responsible family produces a little girl who acts like a spoiled deva, with the only outside sources being childrens movies and shows, the most common of which being Disney.
Even with crappy boomer parents the result is extreme.
I'm not 100% sure what exists in all of these films to specifically produce the bratty behavior, but if I had to guess it's probably something subliminal that women are more likely to pick up on.
So, you get an egotistical bratty little girl who thinks a proper relationship is one of being waited on hand and foot, and that she is also special and smart by virtue of being her.
Circular logic that preys on womens thought processes.
These ideas by the way, are now in pretty much in all entertainment showing family and relationship dynamics.
Stupid man, perfect woman.
So, take a young girl with those ideas in her head, and toss her into a federal schooling program in whatever western country.
America, Canada, Australia ect.
Well something I can guess most of you recall from school, is an abundance of female teachers, semi crowded classes, standardized teaching, and girls excelling at the ciriculum, even if most were not as bright as a lot of the boys.
Pretty common story with millenials.
So this school environment by default is shit for boys, who need much more flexibility and adaptable learning like the classic student/master setup that groups like the jesuits used to teach.
So boys act up, do bad, and the girls excell at filling in the dotted lines.
This then reinforces her belifs of not just being special, and her views on boys, but also makes her get used to female reinforcement in her behaviour with such a high amount of female teachers.
So after that conditioning, by the time she reaches higher education she'll have a very nice swell ego.
Remember western girls also get the most grants, scholarships, and other opportunities.
Can you image, after all this ego training, the abosulte panic she gets when exposed to rowdy boys?
Most boys having been raised by rap music, video games, negected in divorce, many of them latch key kids, and also being ostracised by the school system.
And remember all those female teachers, boys by default will have a chip towards women, and act disrespectful.
After all they got no mutual respect or disciple training in school, which is critical for young men to function in society.
Most boys as a result also have stunted emotional devlopment from all the distracting toys, shows, music and games and porn they were left with.
So when boy meets girl it tends to go bad.
Guys act rude and vulgar, and just plain antisocial and beta.
Then you also have another problem, girls growing up were taught that men would appreciate them by default.
It was never stressed that, mainting your looks, learning home skills, being virtuos, and other things are needed to keep a man loyal and invested.
So the only thing they have is their sex value, which they were taught in their pre teens and teens from maintream music, magazines and hollywood movies.
It is also worth near nothing since boys have had an abundance of porn and sexualized media available since their pre teens.
With boys having already having developed large sexual appetities, this leads to girls having to do many out there sexual practicies to keep a guy invested.
Instead of a guy having to work for a hand hold or kiss, or a romantic outing, guys have to now work at getting her to also do anal.
Timeline of the Degeneration of the “Golden Generation”
http://wlym.com/archive/oakland/brutish/GoldenTimeline.pdfThis is a chronological list of landmark events tied to the modern age. It really shows the buildup to what we are seeing now, and you know how history always repeats itself. What do you think of this timeline? Did anything surprise you? Would you include anything that was left out?
Celebrity Complex and the Surveillance State
Before I get to my question, let me make some statements."Celebrity complex" is a trend that has been gaining momentum at an alarming rate for the past two or so. It derives from the idea that the worth of an individual is directly related to how famous they are, regardless of the reason why they became famous in the first place. This is most apparent in the case of celebrities which are famous because they have personal value, and have personal value because they are famous (e.g. Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, "reality" show stars). The common (if simple-minded) individual, associating their exposure with personal worth, deduces that because they themselves are not famous they are almost worthless (this is not a rational deduction, but a subconscious one). In order to remedy this feeling of worthlessness the individual assumes a histrionic approach to life, seeking any opportunity possible for exposure, and often ridiculing themselves in public in exchange for the attention (which to them, matters not if is positive or negative).
The surveillance state is the collection of practices by government bodies which aim to gather as much information as possible about their citizens, including data that would be considered personal or private, without legal and moral justification. It is best seen in the context of the multiplication of CCTV cameras and the universal monitoring of online traffic.
Now, considering that both of these are growing trends, how do you evaluate their correlation?
Is the voluntary abdication of privacy an engineered trend in order to facilitate the expansion of the state surveillance apparatus? Is the government simply seizing and opportunity that created itself organically? Was the celebrity complex a product of some other, unrelated organized effort (by the media elite, for example)?
If the term "celebrity complex" doesn't exist, I just made it up
I have the impression I made some gross grammatical mistakes up there, let me know what you find
Define "rights"
As another anon has suggested here, I am posting this thread to discuss and define a commonly used word. The word for this thread is "right" as in "human rights", "civil rights", "right to bear arms".More interesting to me personally is the range of usages for this word, the motivation for each usage, and the consequences of each usage. Why do people combine "right" with "civil", and what motivates the selection of a particular definition of what "rights" are.
Semiotics, Cybernetics, and You!
Ready to learn?
http://visual-memory.co.uk/daniel/Documents/S4B/sem02.html
Here are some strictly complementary resources to round out your knowledge once you have an understanding of what semiotics is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation
http://vimeo.com/73536828
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetics
By the time you understand what is in this post, you'll see the world a different way. It might not hit you immediately, but it will happen.
Extra Credit
Read through this and look for the references to magic. It's no coincidence.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1023279/the-art-of-deception-training-for-a-new.pdf
Now consider the strange case of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino, prominent Satanist and developer of military psychological techniques.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican16a.htm
follow the white rabbit
Usually, there are statements hidden in plain sight. Watch this three-minute scene from pop culture classic "The Matrix" before we go into detail.
All right. Did you see it? Let's move on then..
Morpheus is the god of dreams, of metamorphosis, and therefore capable of imitating any human form to communicate with those who are asleep. Here the protagonist awakens, without knowing how did he fall asleep, seeking Morpheus shadow -the invisible man- that only has some random sporadic appearances in unrelated places.
The song the protagonist is listening in the scene is underground cyberpunk Dissolved Girl from Massive Attack. The part they show us is "I feel I have been here, but I am not leaving. I feel like I have done this before. I could fake being here, but no more".
But the hidden part they do not show us is "Oh, how I miss my bondage. I am thirsty of a master. You are not my saviour. A shame, a shame, I am lost again. I really should've left but I stayed. Say my name, oh say it. I only need you to placate my pain" (sorry if it is inaccurate, i dont have the exact lyrics at hand). You should recognize where that is from right away.
Wake up Neo (the one). Follow the White Rabbit (lepufology). Deep into the web, and made apparent by the hacker lair that Neo's place is.
The undesirables arrive to Neo's place. The protagonist opens a book and takes a disk, that he sells to the freaks. But, what book does he open? "Simulacra and Simulation", from the french philosopher Jean Baudrillard, and in the hollowed-out "On Nihilism" chapter no less! According to the book, simulacra are copies that picture things that have no original, or that no longer have an original. Simulation is the imitation of the operation of a process of reality about a determined period. Baudrillard claims that our current society has replaced all reality and significance with symbolism and signs, so that the human experience is no more than a simulation of reality. I could go on lenghts here, but the book is on the web.
Neo -the one, the new- hands over the discs to the freaks, and the freak leader calls him "Mi saviour, mi own Jesus christ", making the theological connection even more obvious.
Baudrillard tells us that simulacra are not reality, or not even imitation, but an anti-reality: they hide everything we relate with reality in our lives. And as society is so saturated with simulacra, our lives are saturated with the artificial constructs of society and every meaning has become insignificant because they are infinitely interchangable.
Finally, the One asks the freaks: "Have you ever had the feeling of not knowing if you are sleep or awake?"
Watch it again. We must learn to see, for we have never truly seen, only glimpse at what we are shown.
Field Research
Who's game for a little field research?Let's organize an experiment on undercover subversion. We'll pick a web community to infiltrate and see if we can influence the users to change their opinions and patterns of behavior over time. An experiment like this could produce a lot of interesting data and would increase activity on this board. Who's with me?
interesting website
Semi-official disclosure of psychological intelligence operations http://www.starpod.us/2013/05/10/death-of-star-gate-resurrection-of-phoenix/#.VTNFlZ9wbqA IRC
Do you like codenames, developing procedures and methodology and following complex documentation standards? Do you have so much free time you don't even know what to do with it? Are you looking for conversation with individuals who share your weirdly specific interests?You're in luck!
At the /32/ IRC channel you can find all of that and more! Come hang out with the cool kids on #32 between approximately 20h00 and 23h00 EST pretty much every day.
Manipulating /32/
I propose that we could benefit from predicting and manipulating the psychological tendencies which shape groups over time. This thread is a place to map, predict and engage in subversion of them.Particularly relevant in our case is the tendency towards a common way of speaking and the race to exemplify group-values in extremis. We can see this on almost any board on this site.
It would be foolish to think that we will escape this tendency generally. But we could at least cultivate a consciousness of it.
I think a way to do this would be to deliberately break norms in this thread. i.e. post about parts of your perspective which you might otherwise omit for fear of not being /32/ enough. I'm sure we'd all be interested to see our differences as well as our similarities.
Sniffles, perhaps this thread could be a bit lenient on enforcement of norms via rules, for good faith experimental purposes?
Organizational Theory
While perhaps not strictly psychopolitical, Organizational Theory is a subject that is very relevant to the issues discussed on this board and may interest many of you.Here is one popular introduction to the topic: hxxp://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/
Thoughts, opinions?
Thinking in broad, historical terms:
How did MTV change the way that media is consumed? Did it change the standards of popular culture?
Did MTV define modern youth?
Did the internet amplify these changes?
Is virtual reality going to be another media breakthrough that changes our cultural relationship with media consumption?
The Human Use of Human Beings: A Brief History of Suicide Bombing
http://origins.osu.edu/article/human-use-human-beings-brief-history-suicide-bombingneat article that i feel is /32/ related
Simulations and control
Psychopolitical concepts ITT. Any thoughts on the matter? Is Gamergate more important than we realize?http://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/9240.html
Consuming Kids
I recently watched this documentary, and two aspects of it came to my attention as things that this board might like to discuss.The first thing I got from this was a repugnance towards the whole marketing/advertising industry. Primarily for targeting small children and using the parent's natural instincts of wanting what is best for them in order to fool them into buying not only unnecessary but often harmful things.
Using appeals to emotion and techniques of psychological manipulation in order to condition toddlers to consume seems abhorrent to me. As I ground this over, I realized that advertising in general doesn't seem ethical: instead of making available the technical data about the product that would allow the consumer to pick according to price range and quality, advertising uses persuasion tactics to appeal to the involuntary part of the mind and override reason and logic. Is advertising in general immoral?
A second topic I only noticed a few hours later was the fact that the documentary managed to elicit an emotional response from me. I felt attachment to the children on the screen and anger towards those that did them harm. This stems from the nearly-universal instincts we have towards our young, but something about this work in particular seemed quite effective in exploiting that. How do filmmakers maximize this effect?
Personally, I found the part where the children talk about what they want to be when they grow up very touching. Perhaps I associate it with a sense of purity that serves to contrast even more strongly with the apparent corruption/degradation of marketing. I wonder if any of you will get similar responses.
ISIL Brides
Why is ISIL so successful in convincing girls to abandon their families in developed countries and marry men they have never known?Most cults usually demand that the recruit physically meets with them so that every aspect of their conditioning may be explored. ISIL is capable of convincing these girls to take extreme actions relying almost exclusively on online interaction.
Perhaps it is a consequence of the "progressive" culture in those countries, which leaves the young people craving for a sense of structure and belonging. Or maybe the act of leaving one's family and country to join a terrorist group is the ultimate act of rebellion.
One consistent factor in these stories is that, despite being described as "British" or "Austrian", these girls seem to mostly come from immigrant families, especially from regions with a Muslim background. This escape could then be interpreted not as running away from something, but as a search for one's true identity. The fact that adolescence is a time of self-discovery seems to support this idea.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the subject.
Just found this board by chance and a while ago I wrote a blog entry about my theory of why women have their inferiority complex.
I will copy&paste it here and would like to get some feedback, additional thoughts and eventually starting an insightful discussion about the topic.
Ethics
I think most people here agree that individuals should be able to make decisions about their own lives, such as how to spend their money, where to live, what policies to agree with, and so on. Forming your own opinions is fundamental to the notion of identity,and therefore to a mentally stable individual and functional member of society.In order to make decisions of whatever kind, individuals need information. An opinion based on facts and that takes into account many different (relevant) factors is an informed opinion. People who don't have informed opinions make decisions that are irrational, and often have negative effects. Thus, an informed individual is both a good member of society and a good human being (assuming that the information they have is truthful and that the "rational" decision is to be a good person). By induction, it is safe to assume that an uninformed individual is neither good for society nor good for themselves.
We have arrived at the central statement of this post: individuals should have access to factual information, that is, truthful information that allows them to understand the realities of a situation. From that, I can claim that it is wrong (because it is bad for both society and the individual) to deny that person access to such information, by censoring the facts and/or spreading lies. This is one point I guess (and I might be wrong) that you will agree with me on: the powers in effect -e.g. governments, corporations- should not lie to the people.
I would like to know if you agree with what I have said so far. If you don't, why not? If you do, what other actions can be considered immoral in regards to control of information? Is mass distraction immoral? What about appeals to emotion, subliminal messages, mass hypnosis, manipulation of the masses by means of cult psychology?
Basically, what is a group in power justified in doing in regards to information?
People can be induced to remember crimes they never committed
From http://8ch.net/news+/res/9457.htmlhttp://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/01/14/0956797614562862
"Memory researchers long have speculated that certain tactics may lead people to recall crimes that never occurred, and thus could potentially lead to false confessions. This is the first study to provide evidence suggesting that full episodic false memories of committing crime can be generated in a controlled experimental setting. With suggestive memory-retrieval techniques, participants were induced to generate criminal and noncriminal emotional false memories, and we compared these false memories with true memories of emotional events. After three interviews, 70% of participants were classified as having false memories of committing a crime (theft, assault, or assault with a weapon) that led to police contact in early adolescence and volunteered a detailed false account. These reported false memories of crime were similar to false memories of noncriminal events and to true memory accounts, having the same kinds of complex descriptive and multisensory components. It appears that in the context of a highly suggestive interview, people can quite readily generate rich false memories of committing crime."
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Trust Engineers
http://www.radiolab.org/story/trust-engineers/a recent investigation of social engineering at facebook by npr show radio lab
none of the techniques or experiments are going to be super new to people here. but it is an look into facebooks particular operations and an accessible starting point to introduce others to the subject.
find out if the spooks have been spooking
http://www.ipt-uk.com/section.aspx?pageid=16
/vd/ and Five Eyes
Those people interested in discussing these topics for the purpose of coercing and manipulating other people for their own gain, or for perhaps the sheer thrill of it, join us in >>>/vd/And tell your friends.
We'd love to have you.
Feel free to use this thread to discuss Five Eyes, and their methods of infiltrating most strata of online media. I believe their manifesto/manual was linked a few months ago.
Terrorism and Media Evolution
Any discussion about terrorism must first deal with the problem of defining terrorism. Much like child pornography, most people know what it is, but have a hard time determining where it starts and where it ends. The ideological nature of terrorist actions means that one man’s terrorist is another’s “paramilitary forces”, and a vicious attack can become a demonstration of justified anger if reported by different channels. One central aspect in which most seem to agree, is that what differs terrorists from common criminals is the use of a political justification for their actions, instead of immediate personal gain (after all, if personal gain was the goal there would be no suicide bombers). A terrorist action can never be seen from a neutral perspective: it is always distorted by the political lens of the broadcaster and of the receiver.This last condition had proven to be a problem for terrorists, as for the most part media has been a passive medium: the audience must go after the sources of information and look for data themselves. TV broadcasts, newspapers, radio shows: all of these are legitimate and recognized sources of information with access to extensive apparatus that allows them to investigate, edit and transmit reports of events. But more important than the technology is the legitimacy, the idea that they are the rightful informers and the bearers of the truth. This remained the accepted system of news transmission for a long time, but the status quo was challenged with the Digital Revolution.
The ability of creating one’s own website greatly increased individual’s power when it came to making their message public. Despite the lack of professional development, these early websites significantly lessened the difference in reach between the common man (or the terrorist) and the established media outlets. A website can be accessed anywhere in the world, at any time, and provide the viewer with information that they were previously deprived off. And all of this for free.
The second level of advancement was the infiltration of media sharing platforms by terrorist networks. Sites like youtube allow the militants to share both ideological and training material with no risk or cost for themselves, while reaching huge audiences (which are bound to include individuals vulnerable to their message). As the credibility of mainstream media decreases, alternative sources for news become more and more attractive, and many times the ideological agenda is dismissed in favor of the novelty or the plurality of ideas. Perhaps even more worrying than the huge audience that these sites receive (youtube alone is localized in 75 countries and available in 61 languages, streaming over 3 billion videos per day) is the recommendation system, which links similar videos and gives the user the option to spend hours and hours watching the same kind of material.
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Definitions: FREEDOM
The word “freedom” refers to a very powerful idea, as it is something that almost all people claim to want, and that all intellectuals say is fundamental for humans. It can mean so many things to so many people, and that is where the power of this term comes from: it’s vagueness.This is the hopefully the first instalment of a series of threads (not necessarily started by me), in which we will investigate the definition of powerful terms constantly used by powerful people. By the way, is that a coincidence? Or are people in power using powerful terms to evoke emotional responses that fit their goals? Hopefully, we will discuss all of that in time.
Definition of FREEDOM
Merriam-Webster:
1: the quality or state of being free: as
a : the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action
b : liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another : independence
c : the quality or state of being exempt or released usually from something onerous
d : ease, facility
e : the quality of being frank, open, or outspoken
f : improper familiarity
g : boldness of conception or execution
h : unrestricted use
2 a : a political right
b : franchise, privilege
Vocabulary.com:
1: the condition of being free; the power to act or speak or think without externally imposed restraints.
2: immunity from an obligation or duty.
Synonym: Liberty.
Let us start by analysing what those definitions actually mean in the next post.
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"Our" Symbol
The thread about subliminal messages and hidden symbols was taking a turn towards making a symbol of our own, not for the board but for individuals who identify against the Global Elite's agenda (the term "Illuminati" is also something we should reconsider).The idea would be that persons who subscribed to this idea would include certain elements into whatever media they produced, and would as such be recognized as supporters of our poorly defined cause, much in the same way that masons have symbols they include in every aspect of their lives in order to identify themselves to one another.
Naturally, this would not be something secret, as we are discussing it with people we don't know over the open net.
So why do this? To put it shortly, it is a way to reinforce our spirit de corps (as suggested here: http://www.naderlibrary.com/icouldtellyou.intro.htm#WHY), as well as help identify people who have come in contact and agreed with our goals.
What exactly is our "cause"? As the discussion on >>>136 superficially mentioned, the combat of the monopoly of information power and other commonly accepted goals of the Global Elite.
On the next post I will expand on my ideas.
http://www.digitalnewsasia.com/digital-economy/censorship-shadowy-forces-controlling-online-conversations?page=0%2C0
This article explains how puppet accounts can be used to manipulate social networks, news, and any online community.
Firstly, it is interesting to see that the failed shilling initiative that we tried on the first month of this board could have worked in even more ways than we initially thought.
Secondly, image what a government could do with its technological capabilities and paid professionals instead of bored teenagers at home.
Reddit's final hour is nigh
https://archive.today/yBjyshttps://archive.today/L8cH1
https://archive.today/C1dc2
https://archive.today/EiA42
>Is there a favorite type of media for coercion and ideological propaganda?
I have proof that research is being done by Israeli academics into the political applications of memes.
http://www.amazon.com/Memes-Digital-Culture-Essential-Knowledge/dp/0262525437
>In December 2012, the exuberant video "Gangnam Style" became the first YouTube clip to be viewed more than one billion times. Thousands of its viewers responded by creating and posting their own variations of the video–"Mitt Romney Style," "NASA Johnson Style," "Egyptian Style," and many others. "Gangnam Style" (and its attendant parodies, imitations, and derivations) is one of the most famous examples of an Internet meme: a piece of digital content that spreads quickly around the web in various iterations and becomes a shared cultural experience. In this book, Limor Shifman investigates Internet memes and what they tell us about digital culture.
>Shifman discusses a series of well-known Internet memes – including "Leave Britney Alone," the pepper-spraying cop, LOLCats, Scumbag Steve, and Occupy Wall Street's "We Are the 99 Percent." She offers a novel definition of Internet memes: digital content units with common characteristics, created with awareness of each other, and circulated, imitated, and transformed via the Internet by many users. She differentiates memes from virals; analyzes what makes memes and virals successful; describes popular meme genres; discusses memes as new modes of political participation in democratic and nondemocratic regimes; and examines memes as agents of globalization.
>Memes, Shifman argues, encapsulate some of the most fundamental aspects of the Internet in general and of the participatory Web 2.0 culture in particular. Internet memes may be entertaining, but in this book Limor Shifman makes a compelling argument for taking them seriously.
I emphasize:
>discusses memes as new modes of political participation in democratic and nondemocratic regimes; and examines memes as agents of globalization.
Believe it or not, this is the frontier.
We've got a solid outline of what's really going on in the world, but I want to know what can we do to resist or counter the tactics being used on us.
So far, I think cutting out TV completely is the first step (check the videos on the MEGA folder in the sticky to see why). News programming as well- they've been abusing predictive programming lately. I'm not sure what news sites are free of unjust influence.
I would also go as far as saying mainstream music, but I wouldn't know where it ends (e.g. Do we cut out the popular mainstream artists only, or all artists under a single record label? Who is free of an agenda?)
As for videogames, given the whole gamergate situation exposing how social justice concepts are being favoured, and pic related being a possible outcome, gaming should be cautioned. By the way, is there any way to verify that pic related is the method being used to control? Could it not be used in areas besides gaming, and who could be behind it?
But despite this, where else do we cut out on things, and resist? Advertising is fairly impossible to avoid. How do we know when we are free of undue influence? As the behaviour economics anon posted in the other thread, the advertisement he designed caught people's attention in a unique way- using tactics we're not really accustomed to. So we need to be able to detect these things. Besides that, how do we fight back? It seems to me that it's fairly impossible to do so. At the end of the day, even if we ignore advertising and television, we still need to buy certain things, and we often go for brands we know and trust. Beyond this, talking about this to other people could yield problems because of the stereotypes being pushed that we're crazy tinfoilers . People need to be able to see for themselves without holding to biases pushed on to them.
Hi 32.
For the past few years I have worked within government on a program to control the public's behaviour through behavioural economic techniques for altering non-rational human behaviour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_economics
I have had teenagers in labs for the past two years trying to figure out how to get them to voluntarily install our tracking app. In the end they liked the messaging I came up with, and the app has been downloaded millions of times with rave reviews.
In essence I found that in teenagers it came down to two things:
1. social norms. If you convince them that everyone else is doing it, then they are much more likely to want to partake. This works both because people want to fit in, and because widespread use is seen as a tacit recommendation.
2. opportunity cost. If you demonstrate how much they stand to lose by not downloading it, they will download it more. This technique turns their attention from the risk of downloading it, to the risk of not downloading it.
These two techniques were then wrapped up in messaging which didn't appear to be directed at them, but was instead a passive conversation in their environment. We put posters up all over universities which were a conversation between two students that went roughly like
"hey you wanna come hang out?"
"Nah i gotta go hand in these forms"
"You're not using the new app like everyone else? just download it and meet me at the bar."
By using non-overt advertising, we were able to bypass the ad blindness the teenagers had already developed. In our experimentation we discovered that the teenagers would not consciously perceive the passive discussion in their vicinity as an ad, and would even replicate the prompted lines later among their friends, without realising they were repeating the ad.
In this way, the concept became viral, and we soon started seeing user reviews on the app which exactly matched the advertisements we had primed them with, which further reinforced others to accept the wisdom of the majority.
Happy to answer your questions.
We are the lost gods
We are creators with the ability to create.We have the capability - through technology - to communicate ideas at the speed of light. Furthermore we can manipulate matter at a grander scale than is possible as an individual being.
Yet we, as the human race; are lost. We have powerful tools in our hands, at our fingertips - but not the desire or drive to use them.
More and more, we are awakening to our power. We are pulling back the curtains and peeling back the layers. My question to you my dear /32/ is as thus:
Whither?
To what end?
Where do we go and what do we do next?
I haven't seen this in the catalog yet. So I'll be leaving this here.
If you live in the USA. Domestic Spying is becoming 100% legal, there's a re-vote, but it's an up hill battle and this just slipped through the system.
Reading materials:
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226752-gop-rep-attempted-late-bid-to-kill-spy-bill
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4681
Your objectives:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll271.xml
/pol/ thread:
http://8chan.co/pol/res/532001.html#532001
I think we need to conduct some sort of strike against our enemies. For those of you familiar with the Doolittle raid following pearl harbor you know that the physical effects were minimal. However the psychological effects were profound. I recommend that we try something similar, a small scale attack against a visible target. Just enough to demonstrate to the enemy that we are not defeated, and to inspire hope in the larger community. Of course whatever we do we cannot reveal the true source of the attack.
I'm thinking we could either spam the Twitter feed of a censorship advocate, or we could try a less conventional approach. We could attempt to put into play some of our psychopolitical techniques and try to convince a large group to carry out an attack for us on a larger target. FCC maybe?
So what do you guys think? Good idea? Bad idea? Good idea but bad targets?
https://8chan.co/pol/res/77892.html
here is a post on /pol/ right now that I think would be of particular interest to us given our specific focus on this board.
This anon is attempting to put together a pamphlet for irl distribution and I personally think it is an excellent idea. If anyone has any ideas to help him out please share. If the pamphlet can be formulated in such a way that the average person will read it then it could do wonders to further our agenda