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 No.1843

http://anolen.com/2014/11/16/the-banality-of-mind-control/

"What if all those MK ULTRA files that Helms burned were about shuffling the boards of media companies; or working with the Department of Education; or buying recording studios; or employing advertizing consultants? What if MK ULTRA was about the CIA turning itself into the best-organized political lobby ever?

Zimbardo and Andersen’s paper was first published in Cultic Studies Journal, 1984, Volume 1, Number 2. Philip Zimbardo himself was one of the National Academy of Science’s personal sources for their biography of Carl Hovland (Zimbardo was a student of Hovland’s before taking a professorship at Stanford in 1968); Zimbardo was also president of the American Psycological Association, an organization which gets a lot of (bad) play in the MK ULTRA saga. (The APA is currently involved in an ongoing CIA-torture scandal.)

On Resisting Social Influence is an abridged version of a report Zimbardo and Andersen did for the Office of Naval Research, a US military/private industry collaborative organization . (The Office of Naval Research funded Zimbardo’s famous– and creepy– ‘Prison Experiment‘ in 1971, shortly after he got his first professorship. It seems Zimbardo was well connected with the military from day one.)

I’m not saying Philip Zimbardo is necessarily a CIA asset himself, but he learned and worked in their milieu, so I think it would be prudent to carefully consider Zimbardo’s observations on ‘mind control':

Formidable quests to gain control over the human mind have often employed exotic technology. Exquisite torture devices, electroshock therapy, mind altering drugs, hypnosis, and sensory deprivation have all been used to get targeted persons to do the bidding of various agents and agencies of control. Indeed, these methods carry enough wallop to distort and sometimes destroy the mind’s normal functioning. But they are not adequate for the task of reliably directing behavior through specific scenarios as designated by would-be manipulators.

John Marks’ expose of the CIA’s secret mind control program (see The Search for the “Manchurian Candidate”) suggests that no foolproof way of “brainwashing” another person has ever been found. After a decade of intensive, costly research into the technology of such control, the CIA’s MKULTRA program was deemed a failure. Covert operations could claim little more than being capable of turning unsuspecting victims into “vegetables.”

Effective mind control exists in most mundane aspects of human existence: the inner pressures to be bonded to other people, the power of group norms to influence behavior, the force of social rewards (such as smiles, praise, a gentle touch). We influence one another, intentionally or unintentionally, using the most basic principles of social psychology, motivation, and social learning. It is people in convincing social situations and not gadgets or gimmicks that control the minds of other people. The more worried we are about being seen as ignorant, uncultured, untalented or boring, and the more ambiguous the events are that are to be evaluated, the more likely we are to take on the beliefs of those around us in order to avoid being rejected by them.

What Zimbardo appears to be saying is that social pressures like ‘political correctness’ are a form of mind control. Could it be that the CIA found obscure strands of Mexican hallucenogenic mushrooms but missed age-old knowledge of crowd psychology? I think not.

I do think that Zimbardo is in an excellent position to give us some insight into what the destroyed MK ULTRA documents might have contained. In this post I’m going to summarize Zimbardo and Andresen’s paper and offer some suggestions– not proof, but suggestions– on how these manipulative practices might be used now."

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 No.1854

First of all, thank you for sharing this website. It is certainly very interesting.

"Control" can be defined as:

>: to direct the behavior of (a person or animal) : to cause (a person or animal) to do what you want

Merriam-Webster

>6. the act or power of controlling; regulation; domination or command:

Dictionary.com

>The power to influence or direct people’s behavior or the course of events:

Oxford Dictionaries.

These are all extremely broad definitions, which range from mild influence to complete dominion. Yet, when people hear the term "mind control" they immediately imagine nefarious devices and techniques geared towards completely altering a person's personality and mental processes. The thing is, one does not need to completely deconstruct and then reconstruct an individual in order to get them to do what one wants, one merely needs to find the most adequate spot to apply pressure and do so discreetly and continuously.

All forms of argumentation might be qualified as mind control, as they have as a goal to direct the opinions (and consequentially, the behavior) of the person with whom one is arguing. This, along with most ends of communication, can be classified as "soft" mind control, in the sense that those who engage in it do not do so intentionally, but simply because that is how human communications work. The most common types of mind control range from simple advertising to cult recruiting, and are based on the same principles as soft mind control (including linguistics and psychology), but these principles are explored in an intentional and dedicated way, their use is hidden from the target and they have a clear goal. We could call this "focused" mind control. Finally, there is what most people imagine when they read the term: hypnosis, drugs, electromagnetic stimuli of the brain, and so on. These differ from the previous set of tactics in that they don't target so much the individual's psyche as much as his physical brain, and in other ways which you can imagine. I'm not sure what I would call this last set of techniques.

The research that goes into mind control is likely directed at making focused techniques become more like soft ones. The importance of this is better explained with an example:

Imagine you are in a shopping mall where you will meet your friend for a movie. While going towards the place where you agreed to meet, you are approached by a woman who is selling make-up, and she begins telling you about all the good things about this particular brand, why you should try it, why it is better than most brands and so on. You politely decline her offers to learn more about the brand and go on your way. You meet your friend at the food court and you start chatting before the movie. After a while, she tells you about this great make-up brand that she discovered and why she likes it so much. You are genuinely interested in what she has to say, and after a while she convinces you to try it. We can suppose, for the sake of argument, that both the saleswoman and your friend are referring to the same brand.

Why did the saleswoman fail to get your attention while you gladly listened to your friend? Why were the saleswoman's attempts at telling you the positive traits of this brand rejected when you eagerly paid attention to your friend telling you the same thing? The science of mind control is centered on questions such as these. Perhaps it is because you believe that your friend is being genuine on her appraisal and the woman is not. Perhaps you believe that your friend has your best interest in mind, but the saleswoman doesn't. There are already ways of overcoming obstacles like these (such as carefully crafting the character of the presenter, appealing to authority and so on), but the science of propaganda still has some things to be improved upon. When the line between intentional persuasion and casual conversation is completely destroyed, then the propaganda machine will be in complete control.

One last thing to be mentioned is that vulnerability to manipulation is inversely proportional to the belief that one can be manipulated. That is to say, the more sure we are that we are invulnerable to these tactics, the more likely it is that we will not recognize their effects on us. No one is invulnerable to mind control, no matter how smart, perceptive and critical we think we are. I forget who said it that "no one who has ever been effectively brainwashed has been convinced that they have been brainwashed".

The example is purposely exaggerated. You can substitute "make-up" for "video-game" and tell the same story, in case you find it too hard to accept the premise of the original.

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 No.1859

>>1843

mk ultra is fascinating

they used to only be able to do it on susceptible individuals but theyve since perfected the art of MASS MEDIA

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 No.1909

>>1854

Enjoyed reading this.

I do think that the origin of mind control (in the context of 'selling a product' pov) is being pushed upon consumers' good word unto others. The selling of a product is done by a person who fell victim to the manipulation strategy of the original party and then become a node to peers; obviously a much more trusted source.

There's probably a term for this that I'm unfamiliar with, but an interesting topic regardless.

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 No.1954

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>>1843

https://twitter.com/HorowitzEmily/status/621293166780657664

supersoldiers can turn against trainers

>>1854

>>1859

research ascended machine technology

attached video: some deprogramming

go nuts, CIA, USG, MI5/6/7/8 :)

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 No.2218

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>>1843

dude, mind control goes way deeper than you might think. thanks for the link - good read.

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 No.2228

>>1843

>The more worried we are about being seen as ignorant, uncultured, untalented or boring, and the more ambiguous the events are that are to be evaluated, the more likely we are to take on the beliefs of those around us in order to avoid being rejected by them.

This is the key

This is whats happening right now

Think for a moment: every social app, every social network, even regular web sites these days are all banking on this network effect

I seen people but real hard currency on dumb projects at kickstarter and similar platforms because their friends did it and they didn't want to be left out. I saw a coworker then give away these kickstarter rewards because she had no use for them, she only backed the project because it was the 'in' thing to do.

Again this is not a like or a share but actual money being spent on what boils down to pointless and banal social interaction, making someone else rich just so you can then go on twitter and tell your "friends" and "followers" (implying they are you friends and that they actually follow you) that you gave money to someone's half-baked idea which was rejected by even the most incompetent investors out there, and that's saying something.

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 No.2727

>>1843

Link is dead.

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 No.2728

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 No.2791

>>2218

Over-Socialized people, who Ted Kaczynski talked about, are total herd animals. They literally are the Goyim. It's a very feminine, superficial kind of existence, heavily based on their 'status', as derived from peer feedback. Of course, when it comes to social media, Uncle Sham can game the environment to make them believe that almost any batshit insane idea is the common consensus in their flock. And the more the A.I. learns from its prey, the more it can individually tailor the 'random' comments and articles that they see.

Make no mistake! These fuckers are evil, and will cart you off to Gulag, or kill you for having different opinions to them. And they live all around you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q496A2E5QCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A245iYiiUw

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 No.2792

>>2791

hi shill

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 No.2801

>>2792

A perfect example of who he was talking about.

Where's your proof he's a shill other than that you think his views are unpopular?

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 No.2803

>>2801

I see the same talking point: "your neighbour is a soulless and unfeeling automaton" come up a lot on this site, and it's the stuff the CIA agent Timothy Leary used to come out with; calling people short-haired robots and calling for a short vs long hair civil war.

In this hyper-segregated time where white people are put at odds with each other through countless sub-cultures and ideologies, I think any further call to that suggests the craftsmanship of a shill and agent provocateur, following a textbook divide and conquer strategy that they have so well achieved already.

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 No.2805

>>1843

>>1854

Very interesting. Too bad the site seems to have been wiped out of content.

>vulnerability to manipulation is inversely proportional to the belief that one can be manipulated

That's true. There are a lot of people out there who underestimate their capacity of being manipulated. Pretty much everyone...

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 No.3696

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>>2791

This is a great take on the subject.

In movies, mind-control was touched on more-so in the past, consider science-fiction. The concept became alluded to the robotiziation of a person, a exaggerated parody of subservience.

The reality of mind control is it's much more gentle, it's like getting swept into an ocean consisting of popular opinion.

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