No.1038
Why is ISIL so successful in convincing girls to abandon their families in developed countries and marry men they have never known?
Most cults usually demand that the recruit physically meets with them so that every aspect of their conditioning may be explored. ISIL is capable of convincing these girls to take extreme actions relying almost exclusively on online interaction.
Perhaps it is a consequence of the "progressive" culture in those countries, which leaves the young people craving for a sense of structure and belonging. Or maybe the act of leaving one's family and country to join a terrorist group is the ultimate act of rebellion.
One consistent factor in these stories is that, despite being described as "British" or "Austrian", these girls seem to mostly come from immigrant families, especially from regions with a Muslim background. This escape could then be interpreted not as running away from something, but as a search for one's true identity. The fact that adolescence is a time of self-discovery seems to support this idea.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the subject.
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No.1039
>>1038>so successful Hardly. Given how far and wide the media
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No.1040
>>1039[cont]
Given how extensively the media have covered ISIS, only a minuscule percentage of females have heeded their call. If I write a program that is correct 0.0001% of the time, and run it a trillion times, I've achieved a million successes; but this is hardly a sign of my program's success.
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No.1041
>>1040So would you say that the numbers of women who take such action are not a product of specific persuasion techniques, but constant exposure? But isn't the overwhelming majority of the exposure they receive in the media negatively biased against them?
The second matter still stands: how do they manage to get to any women
at all?
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No.1042
>>1038In every case, the girls were in communication with someone who groomed them. So its more a function of that than mass propaganda. However, it's clear that they project a masculine image, and many women respond to that. I'd say it's a subset of how many women in Europe and the USA have converted to Islam, which is quite a few. I think that angle needs to be closely investigated.
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No.1050
>>1041My point is, you're looking for a general pattern when there isn't one. The numbers are too small.
Some people find their partner on dating sites, some bump into them while out shopping, some meet at dinner parties, some are seduced online and run off to Iraq. If, for example, there was a massive upsurge in the percentage of marriages that started at a particular market, this would be indicative of a general trend revolving around that market. But a tiny smattering is simply to be expected from random individual whims and impulses, just as any bizarre meeting scenario you could think of probably happens a few times a year. You're trying to find a picture in background noise.
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No.1055
>>1050Fair enough.
I suppose we can't all be so lucky as to find the love of our lives online and go joint that person in an insane fundamentalist crusade against civilization.
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No.1094
>>1038I don't even really buy the meme that girls are leaving western countries for ISIS. I think they are basically fake news. I don't have any proof for you but it's pretty damn hard to prove something *didn't* happen
We had a few girls leave for ISIS from the Denver area, which has a long history of sketchy stories involving Muslims (Colorado has a lot of agency presence and also Army PSYOP)
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No.1097
It's simple - most of them are young. They're in their teens or early twenties. Anyone who has actually interacted with teenage girls will be aware of the fact that they are astoundingly easy to emotionally manipulate.
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No.1114
>>1094They're from Western countries but they are almost all Muslim. The propaganda isn't that ISIS is recruiting Westerners, it is globalist propaganda that the Muslim communities in the West are loyal.
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