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 No.1819

I'm not sure how aware all of you are about the current shitstorm 8chan is undergoing - I don't really expect most people to give a shit about imageboard drama - but I think it's something really relevant that's worthy of examination. If you're unaware, here's a brief summary of the situation:

Back in December/January, /int/ was basically undergoing a period of quality posting, both in developing a board culture and having light discussions. By February, this began to change, mostly because the board owner (who was friends with and given control of /int/ by Hotwheels) started to purposefully run the board into the ground. Hotwheels himself also played a large part in turning the board into a shitshow. Eventually we got fed up with it, and about a month ago most of us migrated over to /intl/, with a new hotwheels-free owner. We've spent the last month trying to recover the board culture we'd lost, and just as things were starting to get better, the current bullshit started. As you probably know, Reddit mods started banning several subreddits, which caused many redditors to migrate here. The most significant was the 'fatpeoplehate' community, which quickly became one of the largest boards on 8chan. At this point, dozens of 8chan regulars started to spam the board, which caused others, Hotwheels included, to become angry that this 'new migration' was being stunted and so many new users were being lost (because the 2nd exodus was such a boon to us, right?). Hotwheels took advantage of that anger and basically accused /intl/ users of doing all of the raiding. This was blatantly untrue (there were maybe 2 or 3 /intl/ users tops, and certainly no organized raiding), as well as unprovable. However, most of this site's users really knew nothing about /intl/, and assumed it was just a shitposting board, and believed Hotwheel's bullshit (Something similar has happened in the past as well - back when we still used /int/, /pol/ somehow became convinced that all the users were a bunch of Something Awful users who had come to ruin 8chan.). Hotwheels then encouraged everyone to go shit up /intl/ (just look at /b/, there's still a raid sticky up right now), and now he's made the board owner resign and be replaced with another of his IRC circlejerk friends.

Overall, I think this whole affair is a perfect example of just how easy a ruler can take advantage of uneducated masses for his own personal benefit. /intl/ wasn't the first board Hotwheels took over in this manner, either - he did the same thing to /sp/ as well. This site is very rapidly going the way 4chan did, and I'm not sure how much longer it'll last.

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 No.1821

/intl/ had around 50 active users prior to the episode, and the raids were done over a Reddit board and a need to "drive back newfags" or whatever the fuck these hypocritical faggots complain about, it was a combination of melodrama and good intentions gone bad, /intl/ also planted a false-flag (as evident by board logs) by stating that HW forced them to change owners, which was completely false

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 No.1823

>>1819

>there were maybe 2 or 3 /intl/ users tops

There were about 15 of regular posters judging by presence in saturday movie streams.

I find the whole event intriguing to observe, at least; it shows how gullible average poster is to information from authority. The whole thing of course translates into real life as well...

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 No.1824

>>1823

On the other hand this constitutes slander, and the average poster could simply be using the authority's word as an excuse.

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 No.1827

I don't follow drama between boards at all, and only check a few boards. If what you say is true... thats sad

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 No.1829

I stay out of drama so I have no idea what happened, but wouldn't the OP be an ironic example of "mass manipulation" in itself? who is to say the post is 100% true? where can one go to even confirm this sort of information? I'm not saying he's lying, I really don't know. but how much information that we consume can we really say is without doubt an unbiased first hand source? and even if it was first hand, how much can we confirm to be truth? I understand the OP is referring to a leadership and subordinate dynamic, but I hope my point will still be clear.

manipulation happens, to an extent, within every communication shared by two or more individuals. most people would choose to "frame a narrative" in their favor, sometimes not even 100% consciously. there is so much to interpersonal communication that is often overlooked by individuals, and without even thinking most people "fill in the cracks", per say. words and phrases conjure up images in a person's mind. it's practically magick if you think about it.. neuro linguistic programming and the like. with enough knowledge of an individual's thoughts, feelings, behaviors, experiences, etc. one can very easily manipulate a person through word choice alone, forget adding in emphasis, gestures, tonality, touch, facial expressions, etc.

something as simple as "golden arches" can conjure up numerous smells, tastes, sounds, feelings, etc. in a person's mind. "I was robbed" and "I was mugged" are two very similar phrases and arguably can be referencing the same exact event, but they conjure up (at least for me) very different mental imagery. someone who was mugged was surely robbed, but simply being stolen from does not mean a person was "violently mugged". I could be pick pocketed and declare "I was mugged once" and garner sympathy from my audience even if no literal violence occurred.

I know it's not the best example but I hope I got my point across at least somewhat. language, while serving it's purpose, is fundamentally flawed. very intelligent people can easily convey their thoughts to others in an easy to consume fashion, but even they are limited by words. and if all of the words in existence weren't enough, they're further limited by words their audience understands. I wish I was one of those people but more often than not I find myself frustrated and unable to truly "tell" someone something. when you think about it, it's practically impossible to explain to someone something even remotely abstract like a feeling, complex thought, etc. even if you did your absolute best, and both parties were of sound mind, and you took the time to thoroughly explain in detail every piece of what you wanted to be known.. even then they would only have a majority understanding, at best. 99% (completely made up statistic by me) of all communication is at least a partial misunderstanding. only simple minded ideas or feelings can be conveyed clearly, ie "I am hungry" "I am cold" "I am tired". but even still, how hungry, how cold, how tired? hunger for the wealthy is perhaps different than hunger for the poor.

I believe divinity sort of falls in line with this, although it's my own personal belief so take that as you will. true divinity can never really be known by a human. true omniscience, absolute holiness... these things can't be put into thoughts, let alone words. holy scripture (in my opinion) can never be more than printed partial truths. we see the surface of the ocean but there is just so much more beneath of it, you know?

I'll stop rambling because I'm straying off topic. regardless, I'm glad to have found this board. cheers.

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 No.1832

>>1829

>I'm glad to have found this board

I'm glad you did. We need people like you.

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