No.3202
Ever since Hillary brought up the Alt-Right, the media began criticizing this hateful group, in a way that reminds me of how they talk about Trump in some aspects. Desperate attempt to make your rival look bad or deliberate attempt to shine a light on a specific group that was widely unknown to the public? tbh my psyop detectors are ringing fams. What does this mean?
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No.3204
>>3202
I'm not usually one for suppression of thought or anything like that but this thread should probably be deleted.
Everyone with a brain knows the alt right is a 4chan invention that was taken and run with by the mainstream media.
The "alt right" has no clearly identifiable leaders or text and has been adopted as a boogie man to attack young white males. There is no need to discuss it, it should simply be ignored.
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No.3205
>>3202
It is an attempt to control an emerging culture. You need to name something first in order to subvert it.
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No.3207
>>3202
you take genuine right-wing anti-establishment sentiment (the dangerous kind, because people on the right tend to own guns) and you divert it into a cult of personality where they'll defend whatever their candidate says.
the destruction of the libertarian party and the old republican party happens at the same time. the democrat party is *formally* assimilated into the "war party" with the old republican party. trump represents an "outsider" but I doubt policy will change.
"mainstream media" is supplanted by "alt media", but the largest alt media sources are no longer doing anything but shilling for a person who is actively in power. the real alt media, researchers who have been putting together alternative narratives for years, remains in obscurity.
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No.3208
>>3204
not having "leaders" means it's even easier to manipulate. you just run a bunch of fake twitter accounts. these people are all lemmings anyway so they'll repeat.
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No.3209
First of all it's an attempt to differentiate it from less radical or more politically correct ideologies.
Conservatism is the right and National Socialism is the alt-right in other words.
What effects does this have?
First it means it is dissociated from the "norm", therefore it will be treated differently and it becomes a more rigid target.
Due to the poor definitions of the 'alt-right', anything that is against leftist values, or currently installed societal morals, can be considered 'alt-right' (following trends in media).
This sort of classification techniques allows for suppression of information and subversion as the word slowly begins to lean towards words like "racist", "islamophobe" and "homophobe".
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No.3212
They're merely clamping down on the power the chans have attained. "richard spencer" or whatever, these losers came out of nowhere and were given magic credibility by NPR, CNN, and other MSM shit-rags.
Perhaps the entire thing was a massive psyop, but this is a pretty lazy attempt at trying to put a fake head on a hydra
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No.3214
>>3212
>the power the chans have attained
friend, that is a complete illusion. democracy is a swindle; the masses by definition can have no power or authority. the idea that a collection of some of the lowest members of the masses have actual power over anything is foolishness. /pol/ is literally a tool of hypnosis
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No.3215
>>3214
> /pol/ is literally a tool of hypnosis
Of course it is, everybody knows that true knowledge can only be found in a christian church.
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No.3216
>>3214
"fake news"
we can create it. memes, we can create it, and make it genuine and make it -political-, which the elite cannot do (yet, until they recruit us in 20 years)
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No.3222
>>3204
>Everyone with a brain knows the alt right is a 4chan invention that was taken and run with by the mainstream media.
When was it taken by the mainstream media before 2016?
> There is no need to discuss it, it should simply be ignored
Why should it be ignored? You clearly didn't understand my thread anyway. I don't want to discuss the alt right itself. I want to discuss how it's being used in mass media to manipulate public opinion.
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No.3236
>>3214
It's a stand alone complex. The situation is that the left are fucking up and the alt-right will use rumour to get the leftists mad. There is no original behaviour usually but the left react like there is which in turn raises the public's ire. Combine in the straight white male bashing that's prevalent currently and that behaviour provokes young men to oppose it which then when finding media like TRS or /pol/ is a recipe for an ideologue. It's astonishing how much synchronicity occured in the rise of the alt right. Combine in that it functions akin to an esoteric society that's edgy and thus fun. It's a nightmare for those on the left right now. They're pissing off the young white males who they need desperately to co-operate with them and if it continues the gradual snowball effect will cause a continual growth.
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No.3239
>>3202
How does one break the dialectic that is fueling the escalation between SJW-left and the 'alt-right'/TRS/Dank Memers?
A movement isn't healthy when it consists of pure anger and edginess
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No.3240
>>3239
If there is no "them" then there is no "us", this fuel is what keeps the movement alive.
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No.3242
>>3240
Correct. I actually believe the alt-right was entirely avoidable. Without the deconstruction of traditions and nations from the mid 20th century not one bit of this would have occured. The problem with stopping it is that it requires /pol/ to be entirely delusional in its points which the echo meme clearly showed to be untrue. So if we get to a stage where the left leaves whites alone some should calm down and perhaps be more tractable. But make no mistake this one is predominantly the fault of the third worldist left, they must be stopped to disrupt the alt right.
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No.3293
An interesting development in this is the new wedge being driven between various components of the movement. However if as I suspect the anglin-spencer-TRS-red ice coalition holds then they may just have the clout to keep moving forward. Especially if the reach of TDS and FTN keeps growing consistently with the rates of the last two years or so.
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No.3669
All masculine ideologies (in the public sphere) must be demonized.
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No.3737
>>3202
Well, targeting the alt-right, with them being so focused on the JQ to the point of downplaying secret societies such as the Masons, Skull & Bones, etc serves as a diversion of attention away from these groups and focuses all the conspiracies around the Jews. That's not to say that there are no Jewish conspiracies, but rather that if the secret societies wanted to divert attention away from them, that pulling strings to get the alt-right to grow would be a good way to do it, since none of the figureheads of the movement tend to put any commentary on these groups. There was a twitter thread by some aussie that said the exact same thing but I can't find it, if anyone else could post it here it might explain it a bit more than I could so long as it hasn't been deleted.
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No.3738
>>3737
Part two of this post: It completely makes sense that the secret societies (henceforth I shall refer to as the "Masons" as an all-encompassing term) actively promote the rise of the alt-right as controlled opposition, since the alt-right tends to harbor everything that will not ever look at the Masons: Anti-Christian types, those autistically focusing on the JQ, focusing on WWII and NOT on other conspiratorial ages in history like Oliver Cromwell's Civil War, the French Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution, the Federal Reserve (beyond the demographic makeup of the organization), and many other things. I found the twitter thread I mentioned in the last post, but it completely makes sense that the Masons would have the ability and need (as I've shown above) to pull strings and get the alt-right propped up as an ideological re-direction.
twitter (dot) com /BeigeShiba/status/1005012049787621376?s=19
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No.3739
>>3738
Consider perhaps a focus on 'Masonic Questions' is no more valuable than Jewish ones. If you want to talk about small elite groups like Skull and Bones or even the Jesuits I think that is more the right track. I don't deny Masonic or Jewish conspiracies, but the problem is ~99% of Masons and Jews are just normal folks, and the moment you start targeting them as an entire group you isolate yourself, by betraying a perceived prejudice.
I would agree though that the the alt right does seem to have a an unnatural hardon for the JQ. That fact makes it easy to identify as some kind of op.
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No.3740
>>3739
Perhaps, either way the term "alt-right" being separate from /pol/ and being so openly sponsored by Clinton shows how good it is for those in power. Nothing in politics is unplanned, and using the alt-right to sour the JQ and abandon the MQ serves some purpose in the future. This could be to make sure that the presence of the alt-right will either serve to bring about some new era of politics where those who are already in power keep their bloodline powerful by appearing "based and edgy" when the time is right, or some other negative purpose. Using "qui bono" and "following the money" methods seems to be the most effective ways of determining whether this is a psyop (which is probably is) and who is behind it. Doesn't Spencer have a lot of contact with Dugin, and Spencer to rich families? Apollonian Germ, whatever you may think of him, goes into great detail in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldQGwGxq6b8) on the matter. Furthermore, I've had many people tell me withing certain WN groups to not look into Spencer, saying that "On good authority I can say that he is no CIA Nigger".
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No.3745
It honestly seems like a demonization tactic, fed from journalists' close ties to Democratic Party and vice versa, that blew up in their face and backfired. The notion of an alt-right also benefits the Republican Party because it allows them to distance themselves from fringe, radical groups very easily with very little thought involved. Now that there is a far right (with a sexy and easily memorizable name like alt right) they can push their moderate agendas pretty easily and say they don't agree with their policies. Which is idiotic because the Republican Party is basically just the white people's party and they know it, they're just too smart to admit it outright.
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