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No.244 [Last50 Posts]
So has anyone here noticed subliminal hidden messages within popular movies and TV?
Is it "merely coincidence"? Or are these subliminal images, numbers and messages put in our media for a reason?
I'll start off with a few Sandy Hook subliminal messages found within the third Dark Knight movie, which was released on July 16, 2012, long before The Sandy Hook "Shooting" on December 14, 2012.
For a fully detailed exploration of the Sandy Hook subliminal's, with evidence and sources, please see this thread -
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1u51vz/investigating_the_strange_coincidences_and/I'll also post other images of hidden imagery from other movies.
Pic related - This is the prop map sent out to various bloggers and media as part of the Dec 16th 2011 - Dark Knight Rises viral marketing campaign.
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No.245
Here is a closeup of the map, compared to the Actual Sandy Hook school in Newton.
Notice the similarity in the positioning of the school (srike zone), and main road.
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No.246
>>245Here's a screenshot from the movie, where Inspector Gordon points directly at Sandy Hook school on this map, and mentions that they need to "bring it down".
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No.247
>>244Crowley connection to the subliminals perhaps?
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No.248
Big Lebowski 9/11 subliminal
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No.249
Terminator 9/11 subliminal?
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No.250
>>249The first Matrix movie 9/11 subliminal
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No.251
Various "Illuminati" subliminals.
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No.252
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No.253
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No.254
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No.255
Simpsons 9/11 subliminal
"follow the money"
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No.256
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No.257
I think this fits more into /contalk/ but alright.
Let's say the majority of these aren't coincidences. Who would benefit from putting those symbols there? What is there to gain? What could the reason possibly be?
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No.269
>>255Fuck, that's too good. Has to be a coincidence.
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No.307
>>255Long before 9/11 it always kinda bothered me how they seemed to keep that magazine on focus for what seemed a bit too long. I thought it was some kind of joke about New York I didn't get.
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No.308
>>255And then there's the monorail episode, from 1993…
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No.322
>>307My theory is that the elite is a form of satanism (up to you to decide if its actual satanism or neo-satanism, but as someone believing in something bigger spiritual-wise I go for actual satanism) and a part of their own self-indulged rules is making things public.
First of all it is a display of power that you can make this shit public (look at Madonnas SuperBowl ritual for example).
Secondly it is spreading information around to the people "in the know".
Third of all it seems to be a rule among them that they have to put it public to some extent. Have read about that topic a while ago, but can't fully recollect it.
What you make out of it, is up to you. It's merely my guess on the matter as there is barely factual evidence.
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No.337
There seems to me only one reason for any powers that be to plant imagery like this: so that people like you and I have this conversation, and become discredited in the eyes of third parties.
Other explanations would be welcome
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No.339
>>337I think you hit the nail on the head. Once you start with anything conspiracy theory sounding, every viewpoint you've ever said is completely discredited.
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No.492
I'm so surprised no one mentioned the TV series "The Lone Gunmen".
(1)
Here's the episode guides, read ep 1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Lone_Gunmen_episodes(2)
Read the description for ep 1:
(See attached picture)
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Read the date the episode aired:
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No.493
>>256But most of these cartoon ones are done as jokes, education, advancing the plots, or doing goofy shit.
Just because I put a pyramid with an eye in the background of a bear and a stoned cat boxing doesn't on my EP doesn't really amount to anything. I'm just a dude who made an album who put some goofy artwork on the cover. You know?
Also, the Yu-Gi-Oh! one isn't Subliminal messaging. The creator is obsessed with Ancient Egypt and games.
Adult Swim? They're poking fun at shit.
Spongebob? The creator has called out Dan Schieder for being a pedo for years now (in secret) I don't he's trying to get anyone to buy into shit. Also, If I recall correctly, most of those sponge bob pictures are from Squidward's SUPER SECRET CLUB DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT.
Adventure Brothers? Dude…have you ever sat down and watched that show? Of course there's Occult Symbols in there, there's a Blimping magic man for Blimp's sake.
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No.494
>>493*I doubt he's trying to get anyone to buy into shit
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No.495
>>337Yo I'm
>>493I don't want to discredit anyone. I'm just offering an explanation on some of the cartoon ones. I don't think there's really any evil agenda hidden there.
A few maybe…a few.
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No.516
>>255That has nothing on the X-files spin off "the lone gunmen". The entire first episode is about a group of terrorists who hijack a plane to fly it into a skyscraper in new york. The plot twist is that the terrorists are actually the government and the plane is remote controlled. This was a decade before 9/11
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No.517
>>244The Dark knight rises is full of cultural references, it came out right after Occupy, and the entire thing was about how bad protestors are. I mean batman even leads an army of police officers to beat up the protestors, since when did batman actually work with the police?
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No.531
>>257Agree with this, why? Whats gained from doing this?
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No.532
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No.542
>>257>>531>What is gained from this?For some reason, posters always bring this (valid) question when discussing this topics. Like, somehow, if the "conspiracy" doesn't shows clear signs of an obvious reward for all the hard work invested in making the whole plan flourish, it is invalid or less likely to be true.
Folks, remember how in the classic good vs bad conflict portrayed in the mainstream media industry the villain, in some instances, wants to destroy or conquer the world just because he/she has the means to do so? It's not hard to find the similarities between that scenario and current events.
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No.551
Don't forget Terminator 2 Judgment Day
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No.552
>>256Some of those are just large eyes. Many others are knowing in-jokes, especially the Adult Swim ones. Keep in mind that the Illuminati and their insignia have become cultural memes at this point.
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No.553
>>552The media creates memes. Nothing is accidental.
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No.557
>>257Symbols are powerful things, in and of themselves, they are units of cultural information, memes. Every, letter, word, icon and image you have ever seen is a symbol. Their meaning is only made clear from their context and the social history of the observer.
You might think you know what a cat looks like, but you don't. A cat is an infinitely complex organism composed of trillions of cells that exists in at least 12 mathematical dimensions. You don't have that in your head when you think of cats, you have a caricature which is a symbolic reference resulting from your socialisation to the concept of cats.
So why place symbols within media? There could be any number of reasons, it could be a signature, it could be a reference which requires knowledge of the other symbols within its specific context to make sense, it could be an indicator to take some further action in reaction to its context, it could be a programming mechanism. It could be all of those things and more, depending on the level of socialisation or initiation of the observer.
The eye of providence has a clear public definition which is not nefarious, and it has a series of other meanings, depending on which set of beliefs you ascribe to. The reasons for placing it in media are as diverse as the beliefs about its meaning.
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No.558
>>557It is quite interesting looking through the talk page and history pages of wikipedia's entry on the eye of providence
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No.559
This stuff is intentional IMO and the "copycat effect" is overrated.
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No.642
What if it is a call for help?
What if the people involved with this, producers, directors, etc. realized the huge mistake they made getting involved with these people and want out of the drug orgies and kid raping parties? This could be their ways of trying to expose enough of the filth to run away.
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No.722
>>493>They do it as a joke.Even if it's meant to be a joke and no one involved is "in the know," it still reinforces the idea that the real thing is a joke no one should take seriously.
There is such a thing as helping your adversaries without being on their team. Hell, that's how the Elite works.
Step One - Plant bad idea into the minds of ignorant masses.
Step Two - Do nothing.
Step Three - Sit back and profit from the masses' messes.
Step Four - Repeat.
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No.742
>>257The Illuminati is deliberately "advertised" in order to make people think of it less seriously
If the very concept of a "new world order" is made fun of, why would anyone put any thought into whether it could be reality?
You don't fear an enemy you cannot take seriously
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No.750
>>322I think the larger the spectacle, the more power the ritual has. It takes up a larger space in the subconscious.
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No.751
Are there any anti-Illuminati symbols hidden in any kind of media (and I mean something discreet, not the eye of providence with a red x over it)?
If there aren't can we create some?
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No.753
>>751Here is a powerful one, though you must come around to understanding it and it has been redefined and maligned by its enemies.
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No.756
>>753Please develop on that.
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No.757
>>753I'm not him, but I'll chip in. This is the Rosicrucian cross. Rosicrucianism is the root of many of today's secret societies. I'm assuming that what anon is referring to when he says it has been 'redefined and maligned by it's enemies', is the fact that this symbol is now associated with freemasonry.
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No.760
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
vid related is overtly propagandistic.
The Band name is: World Order
~20sec in there's the Freemasonry symbol on the right.
Message at the end: "We are all one."
Some think symbolism is neat and use it in their art. Autonomous mimetic symbol use is an important cultural cue.
Symbolism can serve many purposes simultaneously; I'll explain some uses of symbols/messaging that I'm familiar with.
The meme that "conspiracy theorists are crazy" (schizophrenics) is strong in the media, especially surrounding obviously questionable events. Schizos often find patterns and meaning where there's none. Giving conspiracy theorists many such symbols while keeping plausible deniability for their existence allows those who attempt to uncover conspiracies to be easily labeled as a crazy person, and dismissed (or worse). There's a trend to classify people with mental disorders as ever more harmful; Another is and the expanding list of quarantine-able conditions. I've noted the increasingly common meme that: being off one's meds, refusing vaccination, or even not getting a flu shot is a threat to society. This reinforces the arrow pointing towards it becoming illegal to not take prescribed meds / shots (esp. including psych meds)...
A plethora of symbols and foreshadowing could be very beneficial if you wanted the option to label any threatening conspiracy theorist who points out patterns and symbols as a nutter, then dope them up and/or confine them. You don't even have to label anyone, society will do so willingly given the right media messaging. Additionally one can use apparently authoritative sources to pressure some family & friends of a target: "They're dangerous, have them committed". In the extreme a target may actually be pushed into (temporary) insanity via slipping them drugs, elaborate gas-lighting campaigns, or other more unbelievable methods (makes one seem nutty to others if they try to explain what's happening).
Protip: "Always be recording", a mantra to live by if you're targeted thusly. Also, be careful who you spill spaghetti to lest you seem insane; Even if you trust the other party, resist the urge to tell of improbable things unless you have evidence to show; However, may have to play dumb (or crazy) to get the evidence you need.
My parents were plied this way and told that two of my former friends weren't real. My own family then tried to convince me that said friends were figments of my imagination and I was delusional / crazy. My introversion and cataloging and analyzing of false media messaging in the news was given as evidence that I was schizophrenic. My family was being pressured by "very powerful people" (their words) whom I was told not to mess with (I had no contact with these alleged elites). Family members desperately tried to get me to stop whatever it was I was doing. Likely it was my dissident remarks, cryptography projects, and use of social engineering / crowd manipulation. I did reveal some social engineering goals in a "secret" dev forum of mine, because it sucks to say "I did that" and have no proof one actually intended to cause that something (an obvious reason to place "subtle" foreshadowing in media).
Fortunately, my "imaginary" friends were mutually friends with another family member who recalls sharing in our "purely imagined" exploits, and I had evidence my other claims were true. Unfortunately, in order to perform counter-intel I had to go along with pretending to be crazy long enough that some people may doubt my sanity.
I did get the nebulous bastards back by sending my own symbolic messages: At one point I had a whole caravan of plain-clothes agents trying to prevent a one-man protest. Having ran out of printed fliers I began giving away "free god mode" (blank paper), chanting "IDDQD For Free" and "This is what God Mode Looks Like!" while boldly walking unscathed through their traffic. I eventually sewed enough confusion and dissension in their ranks by informing some of my knowledge of their ops that they started to take my suggestion to "come in and confess, because I'm here to chomp the ghosts". I managed to flag down enough agents who doubted their actions that I filled an entire 'Five Guys Burgers and Fries' parking lot. In that tense moment while they looked nervously amongst themselves I approached and said, "You did nothing wrong. You got free god mode today", and they quickly scattered like roaches with egg on their faces. #GamerGate would have been proud -- GG incidentally being the event analysts would attach to the IRL trolling I gave. Imagine the shit those folks got into for screwing with me and exposing details of many "secret" capabilities.
Of this did happen, but convincing you to believe such is not my reason for posting.
The propagation of symbols does not denote power, it is the very source of power itself.
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No.766
>>760On the subject of dismissing conspiracy theorists as "insane", I suggest you read (if you haven't already) L. Ron Hubbard's "Translation of Russian Manual for Brainwashing". It explains how the label of "insane" is extremely convenient for people you want to silence, because as he puts it "insane people have no rights". A "crazy" person may be locked away for the rest of their lives without a trial, forced to take mind-altering substances, all of their complains can be dismissed and if you make
them believe they are crazy, they will actively seek your "help" in order to become normal. I'm pretty sure the file is in the MEGA folder.
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No.821
>>753>>757I just read Fama Fraternitatis and Confessio Fraternitatis. While I agree with several (if not most) points, I don't think it is a good idea to use a symbol of a group we (at least I) are not a part of.
It isn't fair to the actual members of RC, and it could cloud whatever message we are trying to transmit. A reader that is familiar with the symbol might associate aspects of the ideology which we do not subscribe to, while dismissing other aspects because they are not part of the official RC doctrine.
Perhaps this subject could warrant its own thread; we are certainly not in need of space.
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No.826
>>821You are absolutely right. The RC cross is not a good symbol to get behind. I think the poster meant to convey that the Christian cross has been sullied but it is a potent symbol.
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No.828
>>821nobody was suggesting using that as a symbol. pic related is the most powerful anti-masonry symbol I know of. every tenet of this faith is directly opposed to those of the masons.
as an aside, you may be interested in the board /neo/ which is still in it's infancy
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No.843
What do you guys make of this?
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No.874
>>843I didn't notice any subliminal messages.
Symbolism? Yes, definitely. But no subliminal.
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No.965
SIA - Chandelier music video and album cover
1:51 in the video
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No.1058
>>250>>249>>248Just as a test someone should pick a random insignificant date and see how many times it shows up in the movies.
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No.1062
>>828>>753>christinsanity>against freemasonrykek, you don't even know what a vesica pisces is.
also
>crosses>not solar symbolsThere you go, drop "muh bible" and start doing some real damn research on actual symbols.
Abrahamic faiths are just as full of shit as freemasonry.
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No.1063
>>1062Instead of just pointing out how he was wrong you could have taken this opportunity to teach us all about the real meaning of those symbols.
Actually you still can, and that would also give you a chance to word your message differently.
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No.1070
>>1063The meaning is within the words themselves.
Pisces means fish, its a symbol more commonly associated with females and water, and creation. Like the sphere, it represents the vagina, the upside down triangle, moon, etc. which is the "opposite" of male related figures such as the staff (phallus), triangle, fire, sun, etc.
It also represents the union of opposites, which is what results in the Opus or creation.
Obviously there is architecture tied to freemasonry and the elites which uses these symbols as well, because they too want to shape the matrix in their favor.
Symbols are tools, like sigils. Nothing more, nothing less. They know no religion.
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No.1071
>>1070Wrong pic, meant to post this one. It's from a monument in Washington DC
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No.1072
>>1070>>1071I still don't get why that 666 rumor is there.
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No.1075
>>1062Not either of them but I cannot fully agree with you.
Symbols are in no mean necessary for Christianity and parts of the Church are slowly waking up to the reality of Mysteries' infiltration whether catholic, orthodox or protestant (Luther's rose and cross crest). In case you were wondering "what about gnostics?" I don't even count them as Christians.
If you haven't yet go through Bill Cooper's Mystery Babylon.
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No.1145
>>248It's not a subliminal. It's the date of Bush's 'new world order' speech. That speech is in the film, I think, as well.
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No.1288
The massive influx of occult imagery in pop media is not a mistake. It aims to make it passe.
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No.1358
>>760>I've noted the increasingly common meme that: being off one's meds, refusing vaccination, or even not getting a flu shot is a threat to society. This reinforces the arrow pointing towards it becoming illegal to not take prescribed meds / shots (esp. including psych meds)...Ah yes this is the worst. Every cop show these days has that shit in it.
A recurring theme is for them to suspect someone who is mentally ill of committing a crime, then for that person to claim they could not have because they're taking their meds. The cops then scratch them off their list as if that, in reality, would actually absolve them of possible guilt (which it so obviously would not).
Of course this has the opposite (but implicitly same) effect, being on your meds makes you a "good boy" and being off your meds makes you -possibly- a "bad boy" but that's good enough for most of the 'noided population that actually goes for personality disorder-tier shit hook, line and sinker.
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No.1360
>>1358The greater threat is not so much mandatory medical "treatment", but our position, as a society and as individuals, towards mental illness. As L. Ron Hubbard points out in his (fake) Translation of the Russian Manual for Brainwashing,
the mentally ill have no rights. They may be detained at any point in a private institution for indefinite periods of time, forced to take mind-altering medication and be subjected to mind-altering "treatments", their requests can be ignored, their positions can be ridiculed (and anyone who shares their views is at a risk of being labeled as another crazy person), their bodies and minds can be violated. Of course, the great problem with this is:
who determines what is a mental illness?A person who undergoes psychological and/or psychiatric treatment is at a particularly vulnerable spot when it comes to mental manipulation and reprogramming, even when doing so voluntarily. Can you imagine how many people were forced to endure these indignities because they claimed that the government was listening to their phone calls, or reading their e-mails, or had remote-controlled flying cameras, or was able to track everyone with a cell phone? Do you think any of them got at least an apology after the proof was made public? Good luck trying to convince anyone that there is already technology based on electromagnetic rays capable of altering human behavior.
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No.1566
>>322
I agree and think they put stuff out there to sort of insult us. To show just how much power over us they have and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. I was sort of thinking it was a way to pass messages to the ones doing the deed
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No.1567
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No.1575
There are multiple reasons for showing ripples in the matrix.
1) To show power. When you show your mark all over the place, you are showing your strength. You are marking your territory. When you put your mark on places you shouldn't be able to, places that shock people, places that make you look omnipotent, you'll become God.
This will make your enemies fear you, respect you, and even make them paranoid of your influence of power. In their paranoia they will think more of your power then there actually is. They feel helpless going against you and your power. That's why you put your sign all over the place, so people could see it, and know...
2) To make the mark a joke. Some will take it seriously, as described above, but most will not see it and make the right connections. For them it's a funny idea, and people who believe in it, will be crazy. This is why it needs to be made fun of, so to control the hegemony. See >>742
"You don't fear an enemy you cannot take seriously"
3) The signs that are being used, are sign code, with some cultural reference. I think the number 911 is some kind of Jewish code for something. I'm not a Jew, or do I know anything about Jewish Numerology, but I think we will find the answer in judaism. It must have it's meaning extracted from Jewish folklore, myth, or religious meta symbolism. It would make sense to signal a whole group of religious and ethnic group with a sign that a specific group would recognize, but anyone outside of that group seeing it wouldn't know what it is.
This would mean that all those 911 references years before 911 actually happened weren't a huge conspiracy which were known that long beforehand. It means that 911 was all over the place, because it has some symbolic reference to a culture/history outside of our knowledge.
There must be a reason why it's all over the place, and why it was originally decided to be the emergency number. For what reason 911 was selected and not any of the other 998 numbers is the million dollar question. There has to be something behind numerology of 911. I think it means tragedy, emergency, bad luck/good luck, or something to do with misfortune.
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No.1576
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No.1589
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Found this on 4ch's /pol/.
AARP commercial with subtle hints toward martial law.
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No.2430
>>257
i've heard two explanations
the first is that it's basically just "meme magic" or whatever.
the second is to train observant people to look for hidden messages. the key part is that 99% of that hidden stuff is just meaningless bullshit, and you have to look really really fucking hard to find the few really meaningful things
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No.2551
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghb6eDopW8I#t=0m44s
At first I thought it said "but though the truth lay in happiness"
The official lyrics say "'cause though the truth may vary this"[1]
Post what you think it says in spoiler tags then listen with the official lyrics
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY8rOSyR5Rw#t=0m44s
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No.2552
>>2551
It could just be that they meant vary over time not vary from person to person and they didn't think that when one says for instance 'thing X is in place P' what is really meant is 'thing X is in place P in time period T' (Is this how English is spoken do yo think?)
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No.2558
>>1589
>youtube link
Jezz why don't you just give me a link to the FBI so I can submit a form telling them who am I?
Seriously, webm it
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No.2565
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>>>/pol/4386215
Sorry no non-YT version as youtube-dl won't download sound for some reason.
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No.2566
Maybe the Discworld novels by Terry Pratchett?
They have internal contradictions (the first book even has them in the same paragraph!) and in the 1st book at least glorify illogic and illusion.
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