/32/ - Psychopolitics

I suggest you read into Edward Bernays.

Let me see if I understand correctly: you are looking for a way to convert more people to your point of view, that being the importance of nationalist and ethnic pride?

This sounds very interesting. Can you gives us some more background and the specifics of the situation?

>>1652

Hmm let me see, multiculturalism only in white countries? Not good enough proof? Sweden?

if Sweden doesn't convince you, may as well go drink that fluoride water

>>1653

I'm afraid you misunderstood my request for further information.

I am not asking about the validity of your claims, or the supposed reasons for certain phenomena. The information requested is in regards to who you want to convince and what you want to convince them of. With this, we can start outlining a propaganda campaign.

Would it be wrong to assume that you are not very familiar with the nature of this board?

>>1654

OP here

I think the primary focus right now would be on Teenagers, they seem the most susceptible and are indeed more likely to be rebellious against indoctrination found in schools.Because thats just the nature of most teenagers.

from my pov it seems that the way sjws thrive is by subverted current counter cultures, like goths, gamers, other nerdy trends.etc

I'm not so worried about current young adults (those in their 20s), because I'm sure for most despite their outlandish and suicidal Ideas will be realigned as they mature given the oncoming economic situation and increasing unrest.

I think a good start would be a reintroduction to older white culture and history, stuff such as great battles, clothing, and even foods. The next big step would have to be the promotion of monogamy between men and women, and fellowship between brothers and sisters.

What do you think so far?

>>1658

You my brother are in the right track. If you want to spread ideas, values, sentiment, that protects whites, then you need to build a culture that spreads but also celebrates white race. Culture is a vessel, that carries and propagates values, attitudes, ideas, and atmosphere. To propagate a culture, you need a social product, in which socialization can grow.

Best change was in the early 80's and 90's, which we unfortunately blew. A ton of good music, video games, internet, which we could have capitalized in our propaganda effort. We could have hijack, convert, directed and even invented cultural spaces where white race is the common denominator. At the beginning whiteness was the common denominator, but the political correct liberals and Jews got a hold of the music and video game industry, and from the start of 2000, they have been steadily working to change that image. can be

We were fed an opiet, a lie, and now the young are starting to wake up, because of the internet. The last real resistance died in WW2, and what was left of the resistance slowly but surely died off in 50's and 60's. We are now suffering because of it. We have so much catching up to do, and it looks pretty desperate.

This cultural identity needs to be a specifically a white in-group. We need a social space only for white. We need to understand the complexity of the whole situation. This is not only a cultural war. We live in capitalistic world, so we need to make money out of this culture, and that money channeled back into whites, culture, and politics.

We need a cultural vessel. It can be movies, music, hobbies, etc. We need a way to organize apolitically, something that is fun, addictive, but at the same time spreads our values.

>>1660

I have some ideas but I'll be honest when I say I'm not sure how to start off; I'm still pretty new to this but I know this is something I want to do, its the only weapon I can use reasonably in peacetime.

Anyway I was thinking about promoting renaissance fairs and the like, and taking advantage of the current popularity of game of thrones. Roleplaying games in general have become more popular (I think atleast) since they're no longer seen as a niche activity for satanic nerds. Though there is currently a huge push by sjws to infiltrate it there is heavy resistance from the old shut ins that grew up with it.

Now some problems I can see with this is that these games in more recent times are a little loose on their structuring (You can be anything you want basically, and super powerful) but they're generally more open to interpertation.

that was just one way I thought of though, the best way I think it could be done is by making popular game modules settings for D&D in particular since that is so mainstream. If we had a group of artists and lots of promotion, and if it was well written with actual historical foot notes or a glossary it could start as a simple game module, then to a book series.

Besides that my other idea was just some simple iconography to promote monogamy. I was thinking of Geese or Swans, some sort of beautiful bird to appeal to girls in specific, these birds mate for life so they're an obvious choice.

Any other ideas or interest in this anons? any comments on what I've mentioned so far?

>>1661

I actually have similar ideas with going back in time to find fashions. I tried a while back gather like minded people, but it was doomed to fail because of passiveness that is instilled in most internet users. Evenh openly nationalistic people didn't felt my idea. Maybe I'm too visionary for their taste

One of the mistakes I did was to try to share this idea openly, with the general public. I got rejected hard with cynicism, laughter, and ridicule. From 30,000 people daily discussing stupid degenerate shit in those forums, I got about 30 people to support my idea in that discussion thread I made. They said they were ready to join if it ever gets started, but only one guy from those 30 people ever contacted me and wanted to do anything concrete. He wanted to build a website so I even gave money to buy a software. He made a forum, but it never really got anywhere, and eventually it died away. I could later discuss why it died.

What my idea was was essentially this:

My idea was divided into two sections, 1.) The Cultural outlook we were trying to produce, and 2.) how to actually manifest this cultural movement.

Let's first talk about my cultural trend. My idea was to mold old and new cultural trends together, like the hipster were doing. Unlike the hipsters that only go back in time 20 30 or 40 years, I was thinking taking trends in dressing from 18th and 19th century, and fuse it with something futuristic star-treck-like, and even have this cultural outlook fuse with my own native cultural nationalistic romanticism.

The second part was to think how to actually get this thing started. I came up with the idea of making a cultural forum, a essentially a think tank if you will, which makes cultural competitions in a website for independent artist, painters, musicians, artisans,writers, iron and wood smiths, clothing designers, to produce their "art" so to speak, and join the competition with the money prize. The thinking was to make the first competitions free, but then put a 5$ or 5e joining fee. There would be multiple competitions simultaneously. For example competitions would be held for every holiday, but at the same time there would be different types of competitions for specific outlooks and even cultural product. There would be theme based competitions as well, in which we try to reach different cultural grounds, and share our culture in those lines as well.

The site has two functions; forum and gallery. The gallery is the primary function which is visible when you enter the website. and everyone who joins in has to register, and gets his/hers own account with gallery, where he/she can introduce her art and products, and sign his/her products in to a competition.

This gallery is where the cultural products are shared, but the forum is where we discuss them, and how to improve them. We also can use forum discussion to organize cooperation between two independent artist, and even sign group assignments. We can start to discuss, organize and build different cultural happenings. I was thinking first something nice and something that everyone can join, even the nerds from imageboards, and have something like board gaming night in a local cafeteria, band tours, musical festivals, art and fashion shows. Events where young whites could socialize and network each other in real life.

What ever the cultural fashion we end up is, we need to discuss how to make it reality in that forum. We need to compare the ideas we get from the forum. The forum would essentially work as a place where we discuss culture and identity, and how to spread it to streets and mainstream.

The important aspect function is the funding we get from the competition fees. We need to gather money for the prices, but also to run the site. Everything needs to be economical and self sustaining.

The hardest part is to reaching out to people, and the advertising. Most artist are ready to join only when it reaches audience, and to reach an audience we need cultural products made by artist. So essentially we need a huge team to actively promoting this site. The site needs to be professionally looking, and give the impression that it's bigger then it in reality is.

I could talk more about the advertising later.

>>1662

/pol/ is better place for like minded people. It's international, so the ideas spread quickly all over the world, but I was trying to get like minded people from my own country and failed.

You have to also understand that our opposition is very triggered of such cultural revival attempts. They will attack quickly and derail discussions, especially in the discussions I had.

So, I suggest we do a kind of a cultural forum. Where white people can start to think and develop their own cultural identity. After the idea sets in here, then I think in my native country such ideas are easily accepted.

I personally see no nationalistic white separatism coming without cultural revolution. So this is essential to white survival of all white all over the world. I personally believe in the notion that leaders should lead through example. Cultural revolution needs a cultural revolutionary example, an icebraker if you will.

>>1663

I think it will happen the fact we're having such discussion means we're already part of that current imo. I really just want to start breaking the mold of domestication early on with teenagers.

I think right now with having a few numbers entertainment is the best avenue to setup, your site is a good idea though we'd need more money to get it started.

Another thing that you mentioned that might be worth working on instead is the passivity of internet users who share our idealogy.

Though that might just be a waste of time if we could stimulate even a few more into action, it would be worth it.

>>1660

Class unity has always trumped racial unity.

When a class of people adopts a cultural identity within a race, and in that order, then you can begin to foster the impetus for change.

That's why the diversity and affirmative action narrative is so socially damaging to white people. There is no class associated with whites except evil ceo's/executives etc. or weak, puny kuk's. Gone are the days of a working class white, it's now a boardroom 9-5 office class kuk white, but even that has been greatly mixed with other races which in turn further destroys any white class racial identity. Media contributes to this narrative the most with kids under 12 now readily believing that in order for something to be 'right' or 'good' it must be racially diverse.

Class structure is further destroyed for whites as asians take on more higher paying roles than whites, continue to insulate their communities and cultures, greater % see a higher education and most still raising a traditional family here in the USA at least with a very low divorce rate.

There is also less of a wage gap within asian families, contributing to the class identity within race.

>>1728

So, how to bring forward the class and racial identity? That's the million dollar question.

I suggest a counter cultural movement, but it needs people to join forces, cunning marketing, and radically active people.

When I think of sexual crime in Britannica my mind shows me an angry Irish man yelling at some fellow to "stop bugging her" the lady may do as she pleases he must stop buggin' her. And they never really addressed the issue past the open assaults on women. England is fucking wretched in this filth

One thing is for certain. Watch the film straw dogs. The rape in England is intwined within the fabric of society. Its like as common as a gf cheating on you. And of course there is very unadressed masonic and royal themes to such acts of sadism. So not only is it rape its rape riddled in the allowed nuances of the public consensus on fraternal orders and cults as a whole

>>1737

>>1737

>So, how to bring forward the class and racial identity?

Normally this would have happened/ be happening in any other time throughout history.

The biggest difference now is that so many white males have been raised in front of plastic screens, separated from family, separated from nature and their natural biology. This is the main reason why leftism can only thrive in the new digital age. Why counter your own destruction when you can just jerk off, play video games, drink, do drugs, vape etc. etc. instead. The only thing that will wake up white males in separating them from their current plastic screen masters. I don't see that ever happening.

>cunning marketing,

Nope, not enough. Gonna need the full artillery here folks, no looking back now. Nothing short of a complete disconnect from the digital umbilical cord, coupled with a mass awakening spiritual movement will do the trick.

Maybe convince white males that computers aren't cool after all and the internet (wifi) is actually killing you? Take that idea, couple it with a tough mudder / GoRuck style group, throw in some newbridge church and we are starting to get somewhere...

>>1741

>The only thing that will wake up white males in separating them from their current plastic screen masters.

Gonna have to disagree with you here anon, as someone mentioned earlier in this thread the best way to give people a sense of racial/cultural identity is to make them realise what amazing and incredible shit has been accomplished by their nation/race is the past, these accomplishments don't even have to be true.

For example, instead of someone watching Roots or other such films/programs, have them watch Zulu. It's not so much about media as a whole being the bad influence as much as it is about common more publicly available media being so, Zulu probably wasn't the best example to showcase this mind. Think of it as an incubation period for nationalistic pride, some neckbearded beta as fuck white guy starts to learn about the things he ancestors did that he should be proud of and they'll start feeling ashamed and want to change that... eventually.

The key as I see it isn't about stopping them falling prey to white guilt propaganda, it's about having them fall prey to the opposite.

>>1728

>"There is no class associated with whites except evil ceo's/executives etc. or weak, puny kuk's"

Yet here in the UK there are teenager/young adult white memes such as "cheeky nandos" and "lad culture". Popularized through Facebook such as theladbible and dapperlaughs, "Cheeky" and "Banter" are labelled as white words.

>people against lad culture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuLAHKKjqYI

>banter viral video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us9W07b4A08

>explaining lad culture to an American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYF9WleGEPk

>What is the best method to break this fearful mentality that seems to grip white people?

OP, i was a coward for most part of my life (i grew up mostly with no religion, and my dad was absent).

I changed once became a Christian and i acknowledged that God hates cowards, and that what i should crave in this life is God respect, not human respect.