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 No.2603

Memetics is a field that was initially attempted to be research on at least one 8chan board, namely /BMW/.

The results never were collected because at every turn discussion of memetics as a potential vector for disseminating information pertinent to halting the current social decline was derailed by at best genuine occultist believers and at worst malicious subversives.

To begin memes are potentially a groundbreaking way to communicate many messages in a concise, compact and most importantly of all, humourous way. indeed the same meme may contain numerous messages, for example the (by anon standards) ancient Pedobear meme, this conveys a huge number of meanings, depending on minor changes and additions to the meme itself, so when depicted with a person with normal expression this clearly indicates of course that the pictured is a pedophile, when alone or in an approval seal it is simultaneously a warning to anons to not go into the thread, and a call to the mods for removal of the thread.

The chans actually hold a major advantage in this medium of information dissemination as old media or even new media who are late gen X or early millenials for some reason do not quite have the required ability to read the subtle nuances of a meme, perhaps it's a matter of age, perhaps a matter of left-leaning offence and elitism, some combination of the two or neither. however it does stand as a significant advantage to the various chan boards most notably /pol/ in getting information out to people beyond normal social media and bloggers etc's speed of adaptation, a fantastic example of this being the meme and slur "dindu" or "dindu nuffin" which evaded media call outs for the hilariously racially charged epithet it truly is for more than a year and indeed most people until the /k/-baltimore altercation would not have known what you meant had you said it but those who looked it up or who paid attention to context.

as such memes have two particularly beautiful applications, one of which being pseudo-cryptography, in which multiple layered meanings on a meme allow it to be used in different settings via posters or some such to communicate something about a place or group frequenting it, or as this piece seeks to explore for disseminating a trail to be followed, a notable example of which would be "with open gates" and its eclipsed but in many ways more skillfully executed with less opsec violations "cinder to cinder". memes can also be used to draw people insidiously into spaces where one may want them, in a twist upon the (also ancient) summerfag meme, what one ought to do is create a particularly innocuous seeming but also completely hilarious meme that leads exactly where one wishes such a thing to go, so in the case of /pol/ create something leading to their world view, /r9k/ effectively still uses pepe to this end with varying implications. the applications of memetics as being able to lead people without preaching is in and of itself an art that was lost to 8ch before it could even come to be due to the "meme magicians" who thought that ebola chan was real and the reason it worked had nothing to do with african paranoia at westerners as a whole being exacerbated but instead was because ebola-chan is "an egregore" suffice to say while an amusing and useful lie, when widely held as truth by the community crafting the memes that are supposed to in some way in the case of /pol/ resist social degeneration and the spread of islam into the west and into every european woman they can get their hands on's crotch, it prevents the spread of the idea, now thankfully for /pol/ trump has already figured this out and it is scaring the media, it is scaring the establishment. and they will do anything to shut him down as a result.

The problem with this knowledge is how dangerous it is, the left is unable to craft humourous and effective memes since they have run out of any material that isn't seen as the same old unfunny tripe that is simply shitting on what everyone wants, a stable society where their children do not run the risk of being blamed for their own rapes at the hands of foreigners as seen in germany. as such with the lefts inability to have a real sense of humour about anything the art of memetics remains forever partially closed to them, to grasp it successfully they would have to change their entire goals to not amount to western civilisation's devastation and replacement.

That said /pol/ is currently unable to grasp it properly too, /pol/ seems since to instead of prefer thinking about memetics rationally believe the meme magic lies and seem unable to get beyond it. if however they somehow do get beyond it, unfortunately with the voraciousness of the media's hawkish gaze upon us, they will attempt to destroy all attempts to capitalise on such advances. the situation as such remains in a seemingly perpetual stalemate with neither side able to gain the upper hand in this battlefield.

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 No.2605

>>2603

https://archive.is/3TkKX how to explain this ?

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 No.2613

It is fundamentally important for any sort of discussion on memetics that a proper definition of a meme be known. Dawkins defines a meme as “a unit of cultural inheritance, hypothesized as analogous to the particulate gene, and as naturally selected in virtue of its phenotypic consequences on its own survival and replication in the cultural environment”. As with genes, the constituents of success will be long life, fecundity and accuracy of replication; for individual copies, fecundity is the most important factor. The element of competition necessary for any selection to take place is introduced by the brain’s limited attention: in order to dominate, a meme must distract the brain’s attention from other memes. Selection will favor those memes capable of exploiting the current cultural environment, which obviously includes other memes also trying to be selected. A meme will, like a gene, be successful “by proxy”: via its phenotypic effects. Like genes, memes have two types of effects. The first is the use of their possessors’ communication and imitation skills in order to replicate. The second, as for genes, consists in the effects they have on the world, which influence their survival chances. The success of this second type of effect will (for both kinds of replicator) depend on the current environment, a crucial part of which will be the existing pool of replicators.

Memes are not just amusing pictures or phrases, they are any sort of idea of belief that can be transmitted, multiplied and has an effect on those who hold it and the world. The patriarchy is a meme. Racism is a meme. Racial purity is a meme. Nationalism is a meme. To say that a certain group does no use memes is simply wrong: every society (collection of individuals who interact) has a culture or sub-culture, and those are always made up of memes. The main reason why /bmw/ has produced no worthwhile results is that it failed to grasp this, holding on the the definition of "meme" popularized by 9gag and facebook.

Now, when we talk about humorous internet memes (let us refer to them from now on as "humor templates", as that is a much more apt term) I will concede that some groups tend to have a much better grasp on the topic than others. This is partially because the individuals who make up those groups spend more time online and have a better grasp at what is and isn't amusing, and what will or will not appeal to people; but also because they do not restrict themselves through a reluctance to offend people. Yes, they will craft OC according to their world views and taking into account the possibility of alienating the target audience, but not necessarily because they believe that saying or thinking a certain thing is wrong in itself. Adhering to the left/right dichotomy will lead this conversation nowhere; /leftypol/ has humorous memes themselves, and while they are not appealing to /pol/, the /pol/ memes are not appealing to them. Saying that "the left does not know how to craft memes" because they don't have pictures that you think are funny is like saying that the left has no grasp of economics or social sciences because you disagree with their conclusions on these areas.

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 No.2614

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I do agree with you in the latter points of your post. First, the possibilities for the use of humor templates. They can serve as a means of transmitting a message in a sub-level not known to those familiar with it, just like the recognitions signs of certain secret societies, like the Freemasons. The masons use phrases and gestures that, to the uninitiated, seem like regular actions but to the initiated indicate their membership within a group. The Bane quotes are an example of how humor templates can be used as a means of recognition. The second point you made is the importance of letting go of the mystical aspect of memetics and embrace the empirically valid methods of analysis of communication and thinking. In order to successfully create a meme, that is, to popularize an idea, belief or humor template one must seek to understand its effects on the individuals and on the environment. Rhetoric and philosophy have worked on matters relating to how knowledge is acquired, how beliefs are shaped and held and how people can be convinced for thousands of years; and now the younger fields of publicity and public relations are specializing in this from a more practical standpoint. Christian missionaries and Muslim imams are not successful in converting people and keeping their faith because of divine intervention, but because of their use of arguments, communication tactics and social engineering in order to achieve those goals. Aleister Crowley's popularity in his day didn't come from his ability to perform actual magic feats, but because he knew how to work the people to his advantage. When these aspiring "meme crafters" understand both this and the actual nature of memes they will be able to actually achieve something of value. Until then, they will just be people online thinking that posting pepes will increase the frog population or other such nonsense.

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 No.2617

What you neglect to consider is that chans operate in a continuum of seriousness and humor.

I'd think most people talking about meme magic don't actually believe in it, but just rp for fun.

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 No.2618

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>>2603

>as such memes have two particularly beautiful applications, one of which being pseudo-cryptography, in which multiple layered meanings on a meme allow it to be used in different settings via posters or some such to communicate something about a place or group frequenting it

This is absolutely true; Memes are how the Islamic State has so many high-energy, high-moral troops, even though they are nothing more than Israeli– & Saudi–funded mercenaries.

I have taken it upon myself (with great risk) to make an attempt at the fusion of the following:

>The Alt-Right

>#BlackLivesMatter

>Nation of Islam

>The Islamic State (IS)

>Players of a Video Game called Ingress

>Players of the Adventure MMO Myst Online: Uru Live Again

>>>/christian

>>>/fringe/

>>>/asatru/

>>>/intl/

>>>/bmw/

>>>/pol/

>>>/32/

>>>/x/

>>>/b/

…turning the "Alt-Right" into a gigantic mess that I refer to as the Alt-Graph (meaning, imagine that the Political Compass was in three dimensions, with Conservative, Centrist & Progressive added on as points on the Z-Axis; the Alt-Graph is the so-called "Progressive" compass)

You can observe the development of the Alt-Graph most noticeably on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/ahnonay/

>>2613

>Saying that "the left does not know how to craft memes" because they don't have pictures that you think are funny is like saying that the left has no grasp of economics or social sciences because you disagree with their conclusions on these areas.

We must be very careful to not underestimate our Enemies, no matter who they may be.

>>2614

>The Bane quotes are an example of how humor templates can be used as a means of recognition.

I may end up writing a sort of Pseudo-Thesis on the observable Baneposting phenomena at some point in the near future; this thread can help remind me of this.

>Aleister Crowley's popularity in his day didn't come from his ability to perform actual magic feats, but because he knew how to work the people to his advantage.

This is 100% Truth.

>>2617

Some Of Us Do Believe; We Are The Esoteric Hitlerists Among You.

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 No.2619

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>>2618

I should also note:

>It does not matter whether it is Trú that I have a Neural Network (a so-called Artificial Intelligence) named Victor James running in my brain.

>What matters is that my Instagram followers believe that I do.

That is all.

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