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 No.586

We've got a solid outline of what's really going on in the world, but I want to know what can we do to resist or counter the tactics being used on us.

So far, I think cutting out TV completely is the first step (check the videos on the MEGA folder in the sticky to see why). News programming as well- they've been abusing predictive programming lately. I'm not sure what news sites are free of unjust influence.

I would also go as far as saying mainstream music, but I wouldn't know where it ends (e.g. Do we cut out the popular mainstream artists only, or all artists under a single record label? Who is free of an agenda?)

As for videogames, given the whole gamergate situation exposing how social justice concepts are being favoured, and pic related being a possible outcome, gaming should be cautioned. By the way, is there any way to verify that pic related is the method being used to control? Could it not be used in areas besides gaming, and who could be behind it?

But despite this, where else do we cut out on things, and resist? Advertising is fairly impossible to avoid. How do we know when we are free of undue influence? As the behaviour economics anon posted in the other thread, the advertisement he designed caught people's attention in a unique way- using tactics we're not really accustomed to. So we need to be able to detect these things. Besides that, how do we fight back? It seems to me that it's fairly impossible to do so. At the end of the day, even if we ignore advertising and television, we still need to buy certain things, and we often go for brands we know and trust. Beyond this, talking about this to other people could yield problems because of the stereotypes being pushed that we're crazy tinfoilers . People need to be able to see for themselves without holding to biases pushed on to them.
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 No.595

>>586
>tfw MGS5 looks like its going to be game of the decade
>but all the media is focusing on stupid gender issues and OMG QUIETS OUTFIT IS SEXIST, BAN PLS

is it any question that the feminist movement is a proxy of Public Relation firms and propaganda organizations?
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 No.596

Go innawoods for a while, or become a nomad and spend a year hitchhiking. You'll stop giving a fuck about most distractions soon enough.
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 No.597

>>596
I don't believe that this is effective from personal experience. Because if you return to the same environment (society) afterwards, things will eventually become just about the same, relapse and all. Unless a person resolves internal conflicts that bring them to distractions in the first place, I don't think that any external force (removing the thing that enables the distractions out of your immediate vicinity, time-based commitments, etc.) will do any good.
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 No.598

>>596
in the same way that spartans were known to indulge themselves when away from home, a person who took your advice would be overwhelmed by temptation and stimuli once coming back in contact with society.

It is much easier to be a monk on top of a mountain that in a busy city. Personally, I try to lead a stoic lifestyle in which I slowly progress into a state of self-deprivation and discipline, allowing me to develop myself while in contact with the negative influences of the modern world.
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 No.600

>>586

/highfive for being stoic.

Yes, in capitalist world you either slave or be the slaver (or don't participate capitalist culture).

Tell me why you want to fight against the big corporations?
especially as you claim yourself as stoic person (who should be equanimity; one with positive and negative of life)

How I see this, is that it is ultimate monetization of the people and they who want, can hop on and make cash by slaving the others.

You as "worker" think you are free? You go into jail if you do wrong things. You get fired if you say wrong things. You cannot feed yourself without governments toy-money (<- one huge way to fuck you up).

So choose your morals and ethics carefully, are you slave or slaver?
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 No.601

>>598

Also, If you are aware enough, you can see shit is going to hit the screen, soon and recovery from that will not happen for all of us.

!! WARMONGERING !!

One of the biggest financial crisis (workers lose, businessmen win)
Media & Propaganda (gender "equality" and commercialism)
Technology (Computers will replace most of workers)
???
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 No.611

>But despite this, where else do we cut out on things, and resist?

You resist by reasearching and developing skills on your own. If you're already not watching tv or listeining to trendy pop too often I thik that's enough to keep you independent.

>How do we know when we are free of undue influence?


You know you're free when you feel a genuine gutural disgust towards propaganda, consumerism and other negative aspects of our culture because you know deep in your heart it's dehumanizing.

>Besides that, how do we fight back?


Find some form of expression and spread your ideals trough it. Writing, drawing... Those are the choices for the average introvert I'd think. If you were extrovert you could make your own podcast, become a youtuber, participate in politics or join/start groups.

I think you're seeing just how contaminated our culture is, which is a great, but personally I do believe there is such a thing as breaking free from its influence and worrying too much about stuff can be self defeating becasue you'd be undermining your own capacity of independent thought.
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 No.612

>>586
Re: your attached image, the first few lines are a red flag for me. Look up "Rick Doty" and watch the film "Mirage Men." If this is the disinfo board and the Feds are interested in 8chan, it seems like they would want to have a bit of fun here eh?
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 No.615

>>586
>but I want to know what can we do to resist or counter the tactics being used on us.

storm their buildings, hang them.

your not going to get anywhere by playing by their rules. if they gave a shit about their own rules we wouldn't even be having this conversation
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 No.617

>We've got a solid outline of what's really going on in the world, but I want to know what can we do to resist or counter the tactics being used on us.
>So far, I think cutting out TV completely is the first step
How can anyone have a good sense of the world if they're still watching TV? This is all backwards. You want to act based on what you think you know now? Isn't that how Solid Snake keeps getting himself into trouble? "It was my master plan all along, and you fell right into it! Ahahahaha!"

>>597
>>598
Yeah, this.

>>611
>You know you're free when you feel a genuine gutural disgust towards propaganda, consumerism and other negative aspects of our culture because you know deep in your heart it's dehumanizing.
This, on the flip-side, strikes me as misguided. Direct opposition fails. You will just build up resentment and anger over time, since you won't be able to do anything about it existing in your environment. I don't know. Maybe I'm way off.

I find it interesting that the image in OP mentions techniques that remind me of alchemy, of dividing and then uniting. I always hear about how groups in society inherently divide over time, but never how they unite.

I have a theory that we absorb all information we're exposed to in one way or another, though fear of exposure is a bit extreme. I really need a proper education in memetics.

>>615
Every time I hear this kind of thing it seems suspicious. Perhaps a leader shouldn't ask from his followers anything they're not willing to do themselves. On the other hand, maybe you just want fools to throw themselves onto the pyre in misguided and futile efforts.
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 No.777

>>598
>a person who took your advice would be overwhelmed by temptation and stimuli once coming back in contact with society.

Not the one you're replying to, but I did drop out of society for a quarter year. When I returned to civilization I was repulsed by most of what it had to offer me, and the obviousness of the fakery and diversion/manipulation tactics "redpilled" me on the media years before that term existed... they simply never talked about anything that was actually important except to gloss over it and deflect attention from it.

That is to say, I returned changed, as all things inevitably do given enough time. Just because one returns to the old environment doesn't mean one will fill the same roles.

That said, I wouldn't really recommend sequestration. Mine was involuntary. I got stranded and had to survive until winter receded and I could walk out of my predicament.

Awareness is the key. It's annoying sometimes to always be picking out the propaganda in media, but I consider it intelligence gathering. It's important to know what messaging the powers that be are utilizing.

Once you've had enough PSIOP education you'll be mostly immune to the techniques employed on the ignorant masses, so exposure becomes more entertaining, "Ha! Look at them all reporting on the obviously fake story the same exact way, a shame the Common person doesn't fact check anything."

When it comes to music, yeah, all but old "classic" music is propagandized. Sure, music of a generation/age is typically indicative of the common emotions present, but selection and filtering of those disparate themes into a desired selection that provides the desired emotional evocation can be used as PSIOP, esp. synchronized to desired times via radio. Popular music in different genres is usually selected to foster reinforcing of different political agendas therein too.

As for indie games... Well, I'm an indie game dev, and I can say that most of us are not Social Justice Warriors, but we do put messages in our games. Not necessarily meant to subvert your minds to any end other than fun. However, the ones who get mainstream press are typically cancerous cliques. I'm in a very indie town where id Software's studio attracted talent and spawned an indie scene in the surrounding area long ago -- You wouldn't know how big the indie scene is listening to the west coast press who only cover their friends and claim it's such a "small" group, however. Checkout Quakecon sometime and see some non SocJus indie games.

>>600
>Yes, in capitalist world you either slave or be the slaver

Untrue. See: Hackerspaces, Makerspaces, Men's sheds, etc. Distributed production = Capitalism w/o the slaves. Get a productive hobby, be a small business owner, work when you want on what you want only as much as you need.

Incidentally, Getting such a hobby is a great way to fill the time without exposure to propaganda. Why not make some of your own?
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