No.1870
Y'all would be very interested in UFOs. I recently have had a renewed interest in the subject. I am discovering that, despite what I have always assumed, there are actually many, many reputable eyewitness accounts.
Studying UFOs has allowed me a new perspective on psychopolitics, let me explain.
Read the eyewitness accounts or at least read documents that accurately summarize such accounts, and then read wikipedia, or watch a mainstream video on UFOs.
Here are some things you will notice:
They allow a lot of kooks to dominate the discussion, thereby discrediting any discussion of UFOs (think ancient aliens and youtube hoax videos).
Most mainstream media carefully frame events so as to make it appear that the official, non-ET explanation is the overwhelmingly likely hypothesis. Wikipedia is a good example of this. They do cover both sides but the subtle manipulations are there.
When I think of almost every movie that deals with "first contact," I .always find something that is directly based on an actual reported event. Battle LA was based on a reputed UFO shelling over LA, The Fifth Element has a scene in which an alien paralyzes a human at first contact by "glaring" (flashing eyes) at him (which occurred at the Voronezh UFO incident), and of course the flying saucers and little green men all over the media, which are actually the most reported types of UFOs and UFO occupants (although the occupants are actually quite diverse). Close Encounters of the Third Kind is also consistent with its treatment of UFOs IIRC. Stargate SG 1 involves US reverse engineering of alien technology and other events that some UFOlogists believe are actually happening. Obviously they might be trying to be realistic, but there might also be a motive of hiding the reality by associating it with fantasy.
I'm just beginning to read into some reports, but already I'm learning some crazy stuff that the general public does not know, even though most of it is available in your public library stacks, which is where I get most of my information. (The general public is so conditioned to not believe in UFOs or ETs that they aren't really curious.) For instance, people have been reportedly killed by UFOs. One was a pilot who intercepted a UFO, and also at least one person who was hit by a UFO's ray (UFO's rays reputedly often paralyze the victims harmlessly but sometimes produce aftereffects). There is even a document on the NSA's website which is a report saying that the UFO phenomenon is likely extraterrestrial in nature, or a mass hallucination so powerful and persistent that it requires dedicated study in its own right. Basically a previously unheard-of form of psychosis is happening in wide ranges of reputable people, or we are being visited by extraterrestrials. Google NSA UFO Survival Hypothesis.
Here is another thought experiment which I think helps convince one that multiple alien civilizations are probably visiting Earth. You've probably heard of the Drake equation. Any intelligent person should be able to understand that in our universe, if not our galaxy, there are other intelligent civilizations. There are just too many stars for the same conditions on Earth to not arise elsewhere. So then you could add another variable to the drake equation, which is the probability of interstellar or intergalactic travel. 0 would be interstellar travel is impossible, 1 would be intergalactic, fast travel is possible. If any range of travel is possible, even 0.01 then aliens are probably visiting Earth, as it is in the nature of intelligent beings to explore. Now we can certainly envision slower than light travel, and if an alien civilization is old enough, it could have sent ships to this star system early enough for them to have a base here (one estimate pegged a trip to Alpha Centauri at 100 years). So, even within the current range of conceivable technology, alien civilizations are likely to be here. As the range and speed possible increases, so does the probability of alien contact. I personally believe that it is a given that at least one civilization will in the future visit our solar system. Whether they have already or are currently is about 90%. It's like a disease contagion, you know it's there it just a matter of probability if it will strike.
Another thing I have learned about human psychology, and this is actually related to /32/ unlike the previous paragraph, is that the cover up and denial of ETs is totally predictably human. When I was younger and more "blue pill" I would not have believed that UFOs would really be so prevalent and the government and media would hush it up, but given the increased understanding of propaganda and persuasion I now have, I now understand how it could happen. When you learn how socially programmed humans are and how we readily discount evidence, it makes sense.
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No.1871
Also, read the document NRP 1374. It is a NASA report saying that the USS Forrestal fire was caused by radar activating the weapons systems of a fighter. Then read the wikipedia page. The wikipedia page omits any mention of radar and seems to be hiding the fact that radar was involved. The omission is suspicious because radar being the cause ought to be noteworthy. I suspect that the government does not want the public to know that radar has this effect, possibly because radar may have been what downed the Roswell UFO (according to The Day After Roswell).
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No.1875
Interesting statements, OP. I have read the NSA report you mentioned and am adding it to my post for the convenience of other anons, but I'm not sure what part of the NPR-1374 I was supposed to take note of.
The NSA report addresses the possible hypothesis for the UFO phenomena, but fails to explicitly recognize that multiple factors may be at play.
I have always been partial to the theory that most UFO sightings are actually sightings of black government projects (of many different governments), followed by unexplained natural phenomena, mass delusion and finally hoaxes as the less likely, since there is very little to gain from claiming an encounter. I have never given any credit to the possibility of actual extraterrestrial visitors coming to our planet, but I am opening myself to the possibility. My resistance to this theory stems from two main points, a physical and a social one.
Physically, faster-than-light travel seems to be impossible. Even if it wasn't, travelling at speeds slightly above light speed would still make travel of significant distances within the observable universe prohibitively prolonged. Of course, if a civilization has developed such advanced technologies, it would be reasonable to assume that they would have overcome that problem. Furthermore, much of our current technology was thought to be impossible to achieve less than one hundred years ago, so we cannot say with certainty what can and cannot be done, or how long it would take for a civilization to produce a certain technology. Nevertheless, the likelihood of a civilization developing to that stage and deciding to use that technology to search for other intelligent life and finding us is extremely small.
Socially, the problem comes from our species' track record. Historically, an encounter between two civilizations with significantly different technological levels has led to the conquest (and sometimes genocide) of the least advanced one. This is a problem because we are obviously less technologically developed than a civilization capable of intergalactic travel. At the same time, this would explain a theoretical unobtrusive approach being taken by these visitors, who might be aware of our history or have events like these in their own past. This later possibility is consistent with what the attached document states about chimps and implies about human societies, that being that we are watched over and cared for in a state between interesting animals and cattle. Interestingly, this would relate well with some cultural aspects that are arising that seem (to me, at least) similar to those found in animals maintained in captivity: increase in sexual activity to the point of disturbing daily routines, unprovoked aggression, obsessive self-grooming, mental deterioration, sense of purposelessness, and decay of the traditional social unit (in this case, the family). These observations not being in the document, but rather being my own and open to contest.
One final hypothesis which is not explored in the document, and which I myself find unlikely, is the use of an external enemy to push a globalist agenda not dissimilar from Watchmen, but I only mention it because every possibility (however unlikely) should be taken into consideration.
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No.1878
OP is retard or a shill.
There is no proof of aliens. Eyewitness testimony isn't proof.
The whole UFO thing was government psyops.
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No.1879
This thread is essentially trying to lower the content value of this board. I suggest banning these, if they keep pushing more of this.
If admins are too liberal not kicking the shills out, then the importance of this board diminishes.
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No.1880
>>1878
>>1879
I guess I'm just retarded then because I am not a shill. I've made substantive comments here before, the last time I remember was that thread about starting a collaborative experiment to create a meme on other boards.
The other time I posted something similar to this on reddit, all I got as a comment was a shill accusation. You're not contributing anything by accusing me of shilling and it is in fact you who are lowering board quality by doing so and not making good arguments. Maybe this isn't on topic, my apologies. The other posts here seem so insightful that I thought this was a good community to post in.
>eyewitness testimony isn't proof
I understand this this is a "point" against my argument, but realize that ETs wouldn't want to let us reverse engineer their technology and the governments of the world would not necessarily want to inform us about ETs or reveal the proof they may have. Reputable eyewitness testimony is often regarded as "proof," at least until definitive physical evidence is found, and it is the most reliable form of testimony. It is often regarded as sufficient for proving something in the court of law and in news reporting.
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No.1881
>>1875
Thank you sir or madam for responding to my post.
The NPR 1374 part: It's on page 7, section 2.3.1.1
>UFO sightings are actually sightings of black government projects
The specific details of the UFOs as described by witnesses leads me to the conclusion that they cannot be secret government projects. For example, movement at seemingly impossible speeds as observed by pilots of cutting edge craft. And their occasional interactions with human beings, which are not consistent with a secret gov't project but rather an intelligence that does not view humans as something to avoid or hide from. They are observed all over the world, including during the day and near cities. I doubt the ability of the government to cover up that level of technological gap within their own bureaucracy. I think the reason the public knows so little about UFOs is that the government doesn't know much about UFOs.
As for hallucination, that does seem to be a likely explanation. Pilots, I would guess, are trained to scan the sky for bogeys and UFOs might be a particular kind of hallucination that often comes up. Anything that seems like a human craft is designated human, and anything that is obviously not real like a pair of clown shoes is discounted as an obvious hallucination. But there is a good deal of phyiscal evidence of UFOs, which obviously I haven't seem myself but have been attested to by apparently reputable witnessses, both who viewed and did not view the UFO. One example is radar signatures. The consistancy of the behavior and appearance of UFOs and the multitude of witnesses and environments (terrestrial, space, air) in which they are observed is another factor which leads me to think that they are real objects and not hallucinations.
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No.1882
> the likelihood of a civilization developing to that stage and deciding to use that technology to search for other intelligent life and finding us is extremely small.
I disagree, or at least I believe all it takes is one early civilization to develop. Remember that Earthlike planets are believed to be common in our galaxy and civilizations could have come into being as much as around 1 billion years before our own.
It's possible that UFOs that are visiting Earth are part of a "drone species" in other words an either robotic, or genetically engineered species that was created millions if not billions of years ago in order to spread through space. All it would take is a civilization somewhere in the Milky Way to arise very early. Even at sub-light speed of travel, they would be able to colonize the entire galaxy because they were lucky enough to have come into existence so much earlier than us. They would create either a race of robotic drones that replicate and travel through the galaxy, or they would create a race of biological organisms that were genetically engineered to survive space travel and who piloted UFOs ( I guess they could also just travel themselves, but the easier route would be the two options just given). Both of those situations would explain why UFOs do not seem to pose a direct threat to us: they are not designed to live in our biosphere - yet they are interested in our space exploration and technology because that may actually affect them. It may seem like a weird thing for a civilization to do, but consider the fact that we humans create robot probes and send them out into space; it makes sense that a civilization would want to send out robotic probes that visit the galaxy in the most effective way possible by giving them the ability to reproduce and make decisions on their own.
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No.1883
> some cultural aspects that are arising that seem (to me, at least) similar to those found in animals maintained in captivity: increase in sexual activity to the point of disturbing daily routines, unprovoked aggression, obsessive self-grooming, mental deterioration, sense of purposelessness, and decay of the traditional social unit (in this case, the family)
It is frightening to consider that not only may the UFOs be a physical threat but also a cultural threat. Even the physical threats are frightening. The origin of AIDS is still not well known, particularly how it came to suddenly arise without warning in the middle of the 20th centruy. One UFOlogist believes that cattle (and other mammal) mutilations are due to AIDS research done by UFOs and that the owners of the UFOs are the ones who created or incubated the AIDS virus. This is because cattle mutilations usually involve apparently laser-assisted removal of sexual organs, the anus, and organs where there is an interface between the inside and outside of the body such as the lips. Factor in the fact that many humans have been killed by UFOs, and those are just the ones the public is allowed to know (at least two pilots who tried to intercept UFOs as far as I know). There have even been multiple cases of human mutilation, which showed the same signs of cattle mutilation. As far as a cultural effects you mention, I am under the suspicion that a lot of that comes from the inability of human beings to adapt to the technological products that now exist and the instant gratification they bring, as well as an increased globalization of the world having an economic effect. But it is chilling to contemplate the idea that they may be encouraging us to be more promiscuous while also incubating the AIDS virus.
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No.1884
>>1880
I should mention that I did not start that meme thread, just contributed to it. I lost interest when they decided to popularize the KKK memes as their project.
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No.1885
>>1880
Also, humans tend to react violently to UFOs, and if you read the literature you will find an unusually high number of pilots and people on the ground shooting at UFOs or ETs for no apparent reason (an interesting psychological fact in itself). So their not going to go strolling about our cities or hanging in public too soon.
Technically physical evidence does exist, but like physical evidence from any brief event it does not prove anything conclusively. There are photographs of UFOs that you can find on the internet, some of which had thousands of witnesses (the best example is the "Battle of LA" photos); I've never seen any radar reports but that is another thing you could go look for, and there might also be medical reports from people who were in some way injured by UFOs.
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No.1886
>>1885
addendum: the Battle of LA photo(s) is the best that comes to mind but there may be a better example.
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No.1887
OP, the poster(s) in >>1878 and >>1879 have a point. The possibility of UFOs being actual extraterrestrials is not related to this board, despite being an interesting topic. I'm auto-saging this thread, but not deleting it (for now). Here are some areas of this subject that can be expanded on in order to keep it /32/-related:
>Why would individuals fake UFO sightings?
>Who has something to gain by making the general population believe in UFOs?
>Explore historic accounts of UFOs and how that might have shaped certain cultures.
>How does the cultural, social and economic context of the witnesses influence their accounts?
>If extraterrestrials were indeed visiting our planet, who would benefit from keeping this hidden? Who would benefit from exposing it?
>Why would companies or governments fake UFOs?
If any of you disagree with this action, protest publicly in the meta thread or send me an e-mail
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No.1907
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_flyingobjects159.htm
>There's something else ufologists are a textbook example of: cognitive dissonance - the mental distress of trying to hold two conflicting worldviews simultaneously.
>The term was coined in the 1950s by psychologist Leon Festinger, who illustrated it with the example of a UFO cult shattered by the unfulfilled prophecy of an alien visitation.
>Some tenacious devotees still refuse to accept Mirage Men's findings, says >Pilkington: "If beliefs are strongly held, nothing can sway them and anything that appears to undermine them will just be absorbed and repurposed. So if you're really, really dedicated, this is just chaff to throw you off the trail."
>Pilkington himself has been accused of working for MI5 or being a stooge controlled by the government, if not the aliens. "If I'm under intelligent control from elsewhere then I'm unaware of it, and I'm a victim, and it would be against my programming for me to be able to prove it," he reasons.
>As always in the conspiracy-theory hall of mirrors, it's possible to flip the hypothesis on its head: What if the lies and hoaxes Mirage Men reveals are simply a smokescreen for the fact that the authorities really do know secrets about extraterrestrials?
>What better way to conceal them than by getting "found out" in their disinformation tactics?
>What better way of throwing skeptics off the scent than disseminating the confessions of an ex-man in black like >Richard Doty, in documentaries, and articles in respectable new organizations - like this one?
>Perhaps we're no closer to knowing if the truth really is out there, but we can be sure "the lies are"...
Leaked Snowden file in question attached.
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No.1910
>>1887
I will try to stay on topic, Sniffles.
>>1907
This article doesn't examine evidence scientifically, only accusing people of subterfuge and manipulation, which can be applied both pro and anti UFO. But I guess since examining the scientific evidence is not apropos to this forum, we will have to delve into the psyop themes.
I believe it is impossible for the entire UFO phenomena to have been a government construction. In some ways this article only confirms my belief that the government is using disinfo techniques in order to discredit serious inquiry. What I got from the article was that Richard Doty planted fake evidence in UFO circles - but he does not admit or imply that all UFO evidence is faked. I would have to watch the Mirage Men documentary for the full picture though. There is definitely a large fraction of UFO believers who are gullible - these are the people for whom producers crafted Ancient Aliens and other History Channel infotainment shows .
This article seems to be suggesting a conspiracy in place of the ET hypothesis, which is that the US government has some kind of super advanced shadow government that is capable of producing the kinds of crafts that are seen with every single UFO sighting (or is capable of advanced psyop - on a scale not seen in any other domain). What would be the incentive of faking UFO sightings, and how would it be kept secret? If the US government has this level of technology, why do we not see it in other domains? If the US has this level of psyop, doesn't this question the veracity of Richard Doty and Julian Assange? The hypothesis is basically self-defeating.
My hypothesis still seems more likely to me, which is that advanced ETs are visiting Earth, but human governments don't really know much about them because no substantial contact had been made. No conspiracy required, and nothing really to leak.
>If there really is a UFO conspiracy, it's surely the worst-kept secret in history
That's the reality of conspiracy - it doesn't stay secret very well.
>Julian Assange asserted that "many weirdos email us about UFOs" but he'd come across nothing concrete.
Julian Assange only has access to whatever he has access to, not necessarily everything. There's a theory out there that the Snowden leaks were managed by the US government and Snowden is actually an agent for them, and the documents he released were designed for some psyop purpose. How do we know that Julian Assange isn't the next Sabu of Anonymous - a beloved leader of an anti-government group who turned out to be working as an agent?
The Art of Deception pdf does not appear to imply that UFO evidence is being faked by the government, it merely shows UFO images in a series of optical illusions. No explanation is given as to whether these are real or fake, no mention is made of UFOs or the UFO community in the document.
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No.1911
>>1910
>The Art of Deception pdf does not appear to imply that UFO evidence is being faked by the government, it merely shows UFO images in a series of optical illusions. No explanation is given as to whether these are real or fake, no mention is made of UFOs or the UFO community in the document.
This is a powerpoint presentation used for the education of attendees, and it describes the most elementary principles that any COINTEL agent has to know about communications disruption and subversion.
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No.1912
>>1910
Since I don't think I can disillusion you to the facts, that your notions are blinding you from, I can only suggest that you begin reading articles and literature on the matter before coming to any conclusions.
Also, even on trusted sites you will find misinformation as most are just repositories, so you're quickly going to find out that allot of the writings contradict, and go against each other.
>http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_flyingobjects.htm#menu
>http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_humanitymanipulationalien.htm#menu
>http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cointelpro.htm#menu
>http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_ufoaleman.htm
>http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects2/aircraft.htm
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No.1913
>>1911
I understand. My point is that it does not imply that the UFO community is being subverted or is the product of subversion, it just implies that many UFO photos are deliberate hoaxes and implies many UFO believers are gullible and perform group-think. So it doesn't really stand as evidence for the theory expounded in the article - that UFOs are a creation of psyop.
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No.1914
>>1912
The website you link to looks pretty shitty, like it was made by a crazy person. I am not aware of any evidence that UFOs are from the Pleiades, which that website insists. Despite its shittiness, that website is pro-UFO, so I don't know what point you are trying to make becausef I, the OP, am pro-UFO. Unless you are trying to discredit me.
Reminds me of a TV series which seems to be made to discredit UFOs more than anything: Hangar 1. Looks like every single "expert" is an actor reading from a script.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpKmWD8Qpm0
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No.1918
>>1914
Unless you're illiterate, you'll see that the website is a massive repository for a range of materials, and that this includes many of the commonly accepted theories in Ufologist circles, so of course it's all stupid and doesn't make sense.
Again, I gave you verifiable evidence that the government is operating COINTELPRO-style operations, that there is no UFO records available to any of the major political dissenters, and that that most UFO communities are discreditable simply by the fact that they are completely inconsistent in their theories with each other.
You should really stop posting, as this isn't the board for discussing this.
Try >>>/x/
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No.1919
>>1914
Website disclaimer:
>Nothing herein has been produced by us. Our role is one as simple archivists.
All those 'discrediting' articles, are in fact materials taken from published ufologist sites and forums, and are just as insane as your theories in OP.
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No.1929
>>1918
We're discussing the psychopolitical side of UFOs so it's fine to discuss.
You haven't come close to proving that the UFO phenomenon is a COINTELPRO creation, if that is indeed what you are trying to do. Logically speaking the fact that some are fabricated doesn't prove anything. How do we know that the "whistleblowers" leaking said operations aren't simply trying to discredit the UFO phenomenon?
> most UFO communities are discreditable simply by the fact that they are completely inconsistent in their theories with each other.
that means one of them might be right... Besides, most "communities" don't seem to have a unified "theory," they just collect reports.
> no UFO records available to major political dissenters
Are you referring to classified records? Not sure what point you are trying to make.
> includes many of the commonly accepted theories in Ufologist circles, so of course it's all stupid and doesn't make sense.
My point is, link to a website that tries to present the UFO phenomenon scientifically, like MUFON or some of the other sites that come up in a google search.. If you wanted to have a website on Free Speech, you wouldn't include KKK-related articles that happen to mention free speech. You would only do that if you were crazy, believed in the KKK, or wanted to discredit Free Speech.
The website is technically a Virtual Library, and the quote you give is from the "disclaimer" section. The creators of the site clearly have an agenda and an ideology of their own if you browse the site, for instance their Mission Statement:
>We propose an alternative to all those who are seeking greater clarity about us as Humans and Beings of Light, which indeed we are. Consider the possibility that the "story" that has been made known to us up to now is not so accurate, and that the "true story" is being (re)written nowadays, based on facts that have been recorded and registered through the millennia in virtually ALL civilizations that have gone before us ...
>Moreover, there is RIGHT NOW an enormous amount of information, much of it formally documented, as interpreted or "channeled" by a multitude of people, that certainly makes us think (as was described by Giordano Bruno in the sixteenth century, and by many other scientists, scholars, philosophers and seekers of truth, who confirm it again and again...) that we are not alone in the universe, that beings from other planets and galaxies as well as from other dimensions are and always have been in contact with Humanity, sharing our True Story, as well as making our present-day reality.
>We know - we are conscious of the fact - that our universe is filled with the most varied forms of life, and much of that is human life.
It seems we are both literate but you are unable to understand context.
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No.1930
>>1919
I am probably being a bit to liberal in my theories, but for the most part I am just trying to make a case about the feasibility of ET existence. What is insane about my theories?
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No.1938
I'm with OP on this one. People against the UFO angle need to substantiate their argument. So if the UFO phenomenon is one giant psy-op, for what purpose? If so, it's the most successful psy-op of all time, one of the first great modern memes, and the progenitor of COINTELPRO that uh...is 1000000x more successful than anything we know as COINTELPRO has accomplished.
Is it a psyop gone out of control? Is the government concealing anything? Is the government selling something? If so, what?
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No.1955
>>1938
no government on earth could do a global ufo psyop
more likely advanced societies in the universe and galaxy are projecting force
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No.2062
>>1955
>no government on earth could do a global psyop
ok
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No.2095
>>1887
>>Why would individuals fake UFO sightings?
Why do people dress up like bigfoot and roam about the woods or make fake bigfoot footprints stamps? Why to pranksters prank? Also, publicity.
Furthermore, to discredit the idea that UFOs are real by revealing some events as hoaxes.
Just because you can't reason someone's motive doesn't mean there isn't one.
>>Who has something to gain by making the general population believe in UFOs?
The Military Industrial Complex. The SR71 Blackbird was a top secret experimental craft. As was this picture of an actual USAF UFO (hovercraft, made in Canada). It's no secret that experimental craft exist. What would you do if people saw your top secret craft that you wanted to keep secret? Perhaps propagandize "ALIENS!". Note: UFO merely means Unidentified Flying Object. That it has been associated with aliens so heavily I take to be a successful PSYOP.
>>Explore historic accounts of UFOs and how that might have shaped certain cultures.
Comets used to be "unidentified flying objects", and are heavily documented as being bad omens.
>>How does the cultural, social and economic context of the witnesses influence their accounts?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis#Signs_and_symptoms
>>If extraterrestrials were indeed visiting our planet, who would benefit from keeping this hidden? Who would benefit from exposing it?
Well, one funny thing is that if ETs came to earth they would have prior-art for everything we're going to invent for the foreseeable future. So, no more valid patents. That means every business with intellectual property stands to gain from keeping the public unaware of possible E.T. visitation. The technology would disrupt all methods of production, and lead to countless riots. A better question might be: Who WOULDN'T benefit from keeping such tech secret?
>>Why would companies or governments fake UFOs?
To cover up their real UFO programs that all modern governments with aerospace programs actually do have.
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