No.1107 [Last50 Posts]
Who's game for a little field research?
Let's organize an experiment on undercover subversion. We'll pick a web community to infiltrate and see if we can influence the users to change their opinions and patterns of behavior over time. An experiment like this could produce a lot of interesting data and would increase activity on this board. Who's with me?
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No.1109
You're going to have to do a little more work than that to generate any interest. Why don't you pick a community yourself and lay out a goal, reasonings, and methods? You could start on your own and report your findings.
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No.1110
you could just try it on another board on here
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No.1112
This seems like a fun and educational idea, but care must be taken in three regards:
1-Keep our actions hidden. In no circumstance must this board be mentioned.
2-Keep it benign. Do not intentionally disrupt a community with off-topic discussion or offensive material.
3-Do not disrupt the activities of the community with excessive efforts. It must be subtle and harmless.
If any of those guidelines is not followed I will delete any mention of the target community.
On a lighter note, I think we could start by creating a meme or some other humorous recurrent content, preferably taking advantage of existing board culture and using wordplay.
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No.1122
>>1112Of course. To expose our position or attempt to force a change would defeat the purpose of the experiment and would cause unnecessary harm.
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No.1125
This is all so much easier to coordinate when not on a public forum.
You have to take a different approach when doing these things publicly. First off, we need plausible deniability. Ergo, not referencing the target by name is best. We come up with a selection of targets. The winner is announced and then the thread deleted. All future references are by proxy-name and any accusation of manipulation are deflected as "conspiracy theorist" nonsense and/or etc. previously propagandised conditioning -- claim the accuser to be an outsider or opponent shill, etc. You know the drill (and if you don't you shouldn't be participating).
There are many truly manipulative real world forums that exist in public. They talk in a form of code (not fully ciphered, just where their definitions are different, eg: National Security means maintaining the status quo regardless of the will of the people).
Thereby the group can speak openly about a project without the common people knowing what it means to "support national security via online presence", or "foster insightful community operations".
Don't leap before you look.
Or, as the cyberneticist say, "Have the Sense to Decide before you Act".
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No.1130
Sounds like an awesome idea. I'm in
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No.1132
Any suggestions on reading material to help us with this? Preferably available in the file.
>>1125Are you the same guy that keeps mentioning cybernetics, even when it's not directly related to the topic at hand?
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No.1133
>>1125That would limit the people taking part to the people in this thread.
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No.1134
>>1125Don't you think that's being a unnecessarily cautious? We're a fringe board on a fringe site. Even if the target catches on that we're from 8chan, chances are they won't find /32/.
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No.1138
if this is still on, i'm in
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No.1141
me too. I say we simply pick a board with enough activity and try to subtly force a meme there.
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No.1142
>>1134It's not likely that somebody outside of the site would stumble on /32/ accidentally, but it is possible that some local idiot would stumble into /32/ and decide to tip them off for whatever reason. It's worth an experiment, at least. If a first attempt goes well enough it'd be a good reason to try something more organized.
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No.1143
Naturally, the first step is determining a target demographic, be it a board or any other online community.
Now, if we had some agenda we would have to create material that supports said agenda, but since the goal is the process itself, i.e. the study of the propagation of an idea, we have the freedom to choose whatever message and media we want. Given the circumstances, the propagated element should be simple enough to be understood by most, flexible enough that it can be used in many different situations, interesting enough that it won't fade on the background, but not so controversial that it will cause a stir and questions about its origin. Given these requirements (which you are more than welcome to contest), I wager that a humorous meme would be the best bet.
After we have a target and an element (let's call it the strain), we release it into the community. Like actual biological weapons, the deployment is often as critical as the development of the strain, if not more important. We must introduce this idea in an apparently organic way, giving the impression that its origin was spontaneous and that its propagation is natural. Whenever one posts said content they must be rewarded with attention and positive feedback, and whenever they criticize or question the strain that person should be ignored or subtly attacked. While initially this careful thought policing will be the task of the agents, the will to conform and the fear of being ostracized will lead other users into adopting the same practices. At this stage the strain will have become ingrained into the culture and will enter a cycle of positive feedback. The work will be complete.
Unless, of course, we decide to see how far we can push it. After a definitive infection (which is likely to demand several attempts), we can try to take advantage of this factor for whatever other means we wish.
Those are my two cents.
>>1132There's "The Art of Memetics" and "The Selfish Meme", neither of which I've already read. Probably other stuff there too.
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No.1155
Lets pick a community that we have some familiarity with, such as reddit or 4chan, and try to get a new meme going.
Simple, interesting, innocuous, and visible.
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No.1156
Damn, I should've read
>>1143 He's already suggested it and put it in far more detail.
So now that we've settled on the type of payload, we now have to decide which community to infect and the design the payload itself.
I highly suggest that one of the boards on 4chan be our first target as it's format is the most conductive to the creation/spread of memes and most of us have strong familiarity with the community there.
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No.1162
This sounds interesting. I've been thinking about what we could do that would be lulzy and also cause people to do things in the real world. Sure we could come up with a viral image but that doesn't have much of an effect on anyone. What I've come up with is that we create a memeplex that someactivity or substance has a medicinal property that is does not actually have. Like eating dandelions can cure social anxiety. It would be a relatively benign set of actions of course but slightly out of the ordinary. It would be interesting to see who would comply.
I don't know about anyone else but I have personally done things solely because groupthink on the internet has told me to, like taking cold showers (which might actually be beneficial but that's not the point). This idea would be good for self improvement boards like fit.
Another idea I have is that we popularize a TV show, book, or movie of our choosing that is purposely obscure and almost no one in our target demographic has seen before. We would occasionally mention how "red-pilled" it is. It would be interesting to see how well we can popularize it and how much we can sway peoples' perceptions of it as "red-pilled." Obviously I have /pol/ in mind here. I also think that yoga/meditation/New Ager-types would be a good target as well - in that case we would promote an obscure meditation or yoga teacher or guru. This would probably be the most interesting if we also had a youtube playlist of said TV show so that we could quantitaively track views over time.
This option is probably the most interesting one because it is the only one that is likely to have a prolonged effect and become a meme. With the fit meme I mentioned, people are likely to try the activity out and see it doesn't work or logically refute the meme. If we try to create a fanbase around a TV show or other subjective media there is greater potential for subjective interpretation and hence greater potential to actually become a social reality.
The longer and more subjective the show or book, the better because it will take longer for people to catch on to our false representation of it. An example off the top of my head would be the Hindu Vedas or some New Age books by "gurus." Or for a tv show any obscure soap opera with lots of episodes. That way we can be like "just wait until you get to page 526/episode 47, then it really starts to make sense."
At some point, hopefully, you will get people recommending said book to others, even though they read it half through and didn't actually understand it. The fact that they invested time into it will cause them to rationalize why they did so and to fill in the void they will repeat the reason why they were told to do so - i.e. that it is red-pilled, or whatever. This way you get the people to transmit the meme on their own. If this theory is accurate, the tv show or book in question should be enjoyable but hard to understand or difficult so that people give up with their own interpretation and then assume the socially programmed message is true. Not an expert at all but this is just my opinion.
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No.1163
Are you guys aware of what /baph/ is trying to do with the whole pinky amputation thing? The idea is that if you are 'privileged' in any way (white, straight, cis) you should cut off your own pinky in order to slightly disable yourself and reject that privilege. They're making fake infographics and starting to propagate it on the relevant hashtags. This is very similar to what we're doing, except on the larger scale of a whole community/cult instead of just a board. Anyway, whatever we do let it be lulzy and not just some shit obscure film.
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No.1164
The success of a campaign to spread a message or meme will ultimately depend on the appeal of the message.
For example, I coined the "Dinosaurs did not have a space program" meme in university decades ago. It has been repeated by Larry Niven, Carl Sagan, Chris Hadfield, on TED talks and is attributed to a host of individuals. The purpose of the rhetorical device was to invoke the fear response in order to prioritize funding of space exploration. Initially this phrase began as, "Only a space program can reduce our current 100% chance of mutually assured extinction." (A play on meteors and the Cold War arms race.)
Over the years extinct animals such as dodo birds were added to the message "We'll be as content and extinct as the dodo if we keep gutting space programs and remain trapped on our comfortable moist rock." Dinosaurs, being far more popular cultural icons, turned out to be choice. With dinosaurs the phrase invoked more impact and required less explanation. Good compression is achieved by selection of powerful cultural artefacts applied in simple statements with obvious (drastic/humorous/etc.) implications (the rhetoric's payload). The final successful result was the one that took off above. There are other far less successful variations with of the theme still repeated today, such as "We'll be as dead as dinosaurs if we don't invest in space" or "If the #1 priority of your species isn't to eliminate extinction by getting some of your eggs out of the one basket you evolved in, then you really can't blame anyone else for not being on speaking terms; You may not even qualify as sentient."
I say this to illustrate that the message be selected and then refined until suitable for deployment. If the message is not well crafted even a concerted seemingly organic effort by a large number of operatives may not be successful (pic related).
Once an appealing message is decided upon it can be tailored to the target demographic in terms of relevancy, cleverness, humour, curiosity, lust, etc. impulses. Invocation of existing cultural fixtures will be key.
So, what shall the message be?
>>1162 If we pic some obscure fact / celebrity / etc. and make it better known, then which item specifically is suggested?
Perhaps we could manufacture a factoid, or a conspiracy?
Example factoid: 1 out of 8 channers will suffer from deep vein thrombosis.
> What causes DVT?> * Prolonged travel (this is sometimes called economy class syndrome because people flying coach on airplanes have less room to move their legs)Ergo, sitting on one's ass on the internet causes deep vein thrombosis. We could do a hashtag awareness campaign. To go all out we can manufacture a PDF research paper with false/gamed data sampling and submit it to a shity free journal to get more relevancy.
Example conspiracy: "Kevin Spacey is a Spy."
We can provide supporting circumstantial evidence. His being well travelled and use of theatre / acting abroad as spreading of western propaganda, Recently he's worked to bring western ideas to the United Arab Emirates. CIA has employed actors as messengers before, and it's actually plausible Spacey has a handler. Works the celebrity angle, curiosity, intrigue, romanticism, his role in House of Cards, alliteration ("Spacey is a Spy"), etc.
As for false medicinal benefits, perhaps something like: Wearing a tinfoil hat to bed improves sleep by blocking the small but measurable inductive currents from solar flares, Earth's magnetic fields, wifi, radio, TV microwaves, power lines, etc. For evidence we can show that EM fields affect the brain, such as with trans cranial stimulation, or -- in the extreme -- by redpilling people on the existence of non-lethal directed energy weaponry (See this thread:
>>682). Then we can make posts claiming that we tried it and it helped our insomnia, cured allergy to wifi, etc.
If we want this to happen let's keep brainstorming memes and/or messages. The audience for the meme may then become apparent. That, or we select a target audience, then brainstorm a relevant message. I propose the former since our varied interests may yield contribution of messages applicable to a wide spectra of audiences without limiting contribution a chosen target audience.
Try to be specific with the message or meme, don't worry if it is not great at first. We can always refine it so long as the core is compelling, as mentioned above.
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No.1165
>>1156Has a good idea for a target: a 4chan board. We are familiar with the format, they have anonymous posting, and as far as I know 8chan-related terms are still banned, so no worries about getting discovered.
>>1143Posted a valid method.
>>1162The idea of popularizing existing content instead of creating our own is a good one.
>>1163We need to be subtle and harmless, otherwise we will be too easily discovered and there will be backlash.
>>1164This anon also seems to know what he's talking about. The idea of us creating a conspiracy to spread a conspiracy is almost too good to pass.
Whether this is a game or research, we need parameters for success and failure. I say that we achieve success if the target community continues to discuss the content for at least 2 months after we have stopped posting it ourselves. If any of us gets banned for spamming or shilling, that person is out.
I think halfchan's /x/ would make a good target, with the mix between trolls and people who actually believe crazy things without facts to back them.
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No.1184
We should developed otherkin, transethnic community within the realms of SJW circles. What's our current theory of culture around these parts, and aesthetics?
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No.1189
Well, the last major meme that had an impact was that blue/white dress meme. Now, the most interesting aspect of that was that it inspired debate over how you "saw" the dress. Some scientists gave a detailed explanation as to why some saw it as blue and some saw it as white. Hell, it even served very well as an allegory of the 2 party system and the usual dichotomy present in American culture.
With that said, most memes have a half life that's adjacent to their impact. The more of an impact they have and the more they float to the top, so to speak, the shorter its life span will be. By my estimate, the dress came into creation, grew, reached its peak, and faded out within, what? 72 hours or so? A week at the most. A similar time span was noticed with the Too Many Cooks video (a great piece of work in my honest opinion).
So if we're to have any impact with a meme, it would need to be quirky, simple, two sided, yet ultimately irrelevant in the mind of the masses.
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No.1191
Given that our ultimate goal is to modify the behavior of a target demographic, I think those who are interested in participating would benefit from reading FM 3-05.302.
The document is 255 pages long, but for those of us who are not in the military chapters 1,4,6 and 8 are probably enough (at least those are the ones I found to be most relevant).
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No.1192
>>1164>>1155spacey is a spy on reddit would be dope
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No.1196
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No.1221
>>1196I actually mentioned jelqing when I first typed that post out but then I deleted it before submitting. Funny how you would mention it.
I'd only be interested in taking the time to do this if there was a potential to make money.
One of us could make a shitty dvd about jelqing and then /32/ could try to market it and get people to buy it.
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No.1225
Guys, how about this:
>>>/spacechan/It's already packaged for consumption by channers. This could be the next "Humanity Fuck Yeah", a highly flexible platform that can be explored by any anon with a bit of creativity. It doesn't demand anything but a bit of writing skill. It can be made into comics, videos, reaction images and lingo.
If we do this right we can spread it not only to every board but to other chans, to tumblr and reddit.
We don't need to (and shouldn't) start with something political, or synthetic, or exotic.
It's just like it was said in this thread: flexible, simple, interesting.
Already some of you gave some good ideas. How about it, chaps?
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No.1230
>>1225What would be our operational goal? Would it just be to popularize it? We could try to alter the behavior of /spacechan/ by moving it to the left, or alternatively we could start a parallel movement called amongst the leftist tumblrinas and redditors.
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No.1231
>>1230btw, this brings up the question, are we trying to popularize a meme, or are we trying to change behavior? IMHO changing behavior is too hard to measure since we are on the internet. The popularity of a meme, in contrast, is actually observable.
So we would want to create an image or phrase or phrase that people will repeat on the chans. Some of you have suggested promoting conspiracy theories and quack medicine and so did I in my previous post; but now I think the better route would be a meme which is entirely entertainment-based. Why? If the meme is a logical belief like "DVT is caused by sitting" or "wear aluminum foil hats to bed" it is too logical. We want it to be emotional, which is where images and phrases come in. We especially want it to piggyback on the beliefs of the targets, rather than trying to change their beliefs. The only behavior we are trying to alter is their behavior towards replicating the meme.
If we wanted to go the word or phrase route, we simply invent words that can be propagated on chans, similar to how nignog has become a term for blacks. "That feel when..." is a popular phrase on 8chan which shows the potential for a catchy phrase to become entrenched. For the image meme, I was thinking we could do something akin to that frog face, pedobear, or hamburger-cat-thing-on-a-lawnmower meme. In other words we create a character and make images and comics about them with the goal of making the character an entrenched part of chan culture.
Pretty much the only idea I have come up with for a character is as follows:
You know how /pol/ has that comic character of an exaggeratedly chimp-like black who always says "SHEEEIIT"?
We could create a parallel version for the tumblrinas except it would be a cis white male. He would have his own catchphrase, exaggerated features, etc.
Or if we wanted to stick to gaming /pol/ we could create a landwhale feminist character.
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No.1234
>>1230Nothing so... political. We are just looking to popularize it.
>>1231We need to crawl before we walk, no point in trying to start a suicide cult when we haven't even tried making a meme. I think there are different people in this thread saying the same thing but dissagreeing with eachother, so let me try to be clear:
Let's popularize a funny image or phrase or format before attempting to overthrow the system and start a global revolution.Rumors can be checked and disproven besides being ignored, entertaining material is either liked or not, there will be no push to contest it.
I like the character idea, I like the catchphrase idea and I like the spacechan idea. We can even do more than one at the same time, but let's reach a damn consensus already and start doing something.
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No.1264
Here is an idea:
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PROJECT CASPER
1. Target Audience: 8chan's /pol/ board
2. Objectives
2.1. Popularization of drawn images of members of the KKK.
2.2. Increased discussion about the organization, methods and history of the KKK.
3.Methods
3.1. Production and dissemination of visual depictions of symbols of the KKK, especially with a humorous or flattering tone.
3.2. Initiation or veering of discussion about the organization of the KKK, in which the visual media may be further disseminated.
3.3. Reinforcement of desired behavior with attention and positive responses.
3.4. Repression of contrary behavior with a lack of responses or with exclusively negative attention to the poster, including (but not limited to) accusations of shilling.
4. Material
4.1. Crudely drawn depictions of the knights of the Ku-Klux-Klan, featuring stereotypical perceptions about the group and commonly associated symbols. The subject was chosen for three reasons: it is rarely discussed in the board, meaning that an increase in discussion will be clearly visible; it is closely related to the board topic and board culture; it is easily replicable because of its purposely crude nature and simple shapes.
5. Parameters of success
5.1. Continuous discussion of the theme and propagation of the images three weeks after ceasing of activities by researchers.
5.2. Production of original content on the theme by TA.
5.3. Acceptance of the theme as part of board culture.
5.4. Rejections of criticisms to the theme.
6. Signs of failure
6.1. Detection of the organized effort by the TA.
6.2. Rejection of proposed theme.
6.3. Non-propagation of material.
6.4. Lack of production of original content by TA.
7. Explanation
Project CASPER is a research project from 8chan's psychopolitcs board, geared at studying memetics and crowd behavior online. The goal is to create a meme (self-propagating concept/idea) and analyzing the way it spreads and changes over time. Researchers will produce and distribute original content about the organization of the Ku-Klux-Klan, with an emphasis on humor and a flattering view of the characters depicted. The choice of an organization that has racially-theme ideology and the positive depiction helps against accusations of shilling and board-sliding. Given the TA's serious oppositional view of the current government, the official status of the organization as "domestic terrorist" and the unofficial status as "counter-culture" are beneficial to the propagation. The fact that the organization is viewed as traditionally rural and historically American appeals to the anti-cosmopolitan and highly nationalistic views of the TA. Original content will be created according to the standards set by the TA, so as to effectively mingle with native material.
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Ideally we all study about memetics for a couple of weeks and then gather to adapt the proposed plan. Once that is done, this thread is deleted and we set forth to execute the experiment for a period of time we are yet to determine. When the period is over, we gather results, analyze them here and evaluate ourselves as memetic propagators. Hopefully after a few of these projects we will be able to maximize our effort/result ratio by creating material that is popularized extremely quickly and with minimal effort.
>Attention: discuss this idea with the others before trying to initiate action by yourself.
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No.1265
>>1264I like it. It will change /pol/'s behavior, but not so drastically that they would be resistant. I also like how this is basically an "anti jew-meme". There's already that jewface character that represents the opposite of /pol/--naturally, there should be the opposite of that character, who represents /pol/.
For the second picture, I would erase the Star of David; it's a bit too unsubtle. Otherwise, it's a very good image. It would work well as a reaction image, and reaction images get used, saved by others, and reused (i.e. they "reproduce" quickly as memes). On that note, I think we should make more such reaction images.
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No.1266
>>1265On second thought, maybe 4chan's /pol/ would be a better target. We don't need another board here to assume that we mean them harm, and anyone here is much more likely to discover us than over there.
Another positive thing about the character is the fact that stormfront was created by a klansman, which makes the audience overlap quite advantageous.
I just checked and they now have country flags. This means that those of us who aren't American would need to find proxies that aren't banned.
I also want to reinstate my opinion that we should read up on memetics before getting this thing going.
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No.1267
>>1266I'm in the United States, and am more than willing to make OC. This sounds like a great idea, and yes, I do agree the last thing this board needs is hostility directed towards it.
I will lurk and await further instruction.
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No.1268
>>1267Don't call it "instruction", it makes it sound like one of us is in charge. This is supposed to be a collaborative effort.
The proxies will also help prevent samefagging detection by mods and janitors, since over there they can still see the IP of the posters.
If there is no opposition to this idea for the next 24h or so I will start a thread just for CASPER and we can start developing the project.
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No.1270
>>1268As the OP of the thread, I am in favor.
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No.1272
>>1270 how do you intiate the act. details of how to propogate it.
should we select a specific date to do it . i propose a date related to /32/ for example 3 FEB 2015 (i know it's a bad example)
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No.1278
>>1264>>1268This project should be coordinated through a private off-board medium rather than through a new thread on /32/. The reasons for this are several:
- it would make detection by the target audience significantly more difficult, especially if the medium is password-protected. Compare the security of this method to that of having a public thread about the project on the front page of /32/, which could be casually discovered by any 4chan lurker.
- it would avoid cluttering /32/ with excess threads about a project not everyone may be interested in.
- if the medium uses persistent identities, it would be a lot easier to keep track of which posts are being made by us and which by the TA*, as well as how many researchers are involved in the project.
As for the off-board medium -something like Titanpad should be sufficient, though I'm open to suggestions.
*To this end each researcher should record the number of relevant threads, images, and posts they create (particularly if they contain searchable terms like "KKK"). At the end of the day, 4chanarchive could be used to compare the number of relevant posts created by us to the number of relevant posts created by the TA to measure the effect our actions are having.
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No.1279
>>1264To make sure I understand this:
The experiment will be successful if 4chan/pol/ users not only repost the klansman meme, but also discuss the KKK?
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No.1280
Just started the dedicated thread, but then saw this:
>>1278Ok, I guess making things private is a good idea after all. Can one of you handle the technical aspect (i.e. starting the online document and defining a password)? I'm just not good with that stuff.
>>1279the goal is to alter behavior in a significant and noticeable way. If it was only an image we would need to be extremely watchful to get every instance of autonomous posting.
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No.1281
Should we go to /k/ and ask if anyone has experience with psychological warfare, or would that expose us too much?
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No.1282
>>1280Done: projectcasper.titanpad.com/1
The text from your thread is already on it. It's currently public and passworded, but can be set to private (which would require users to sign in to view it). The password is
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No.1283
>>1281We should probably stick to /32/ for the time being.
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No.1284
>>1282I've deleted the thread and will modify/add to the file. I'm taking the codename Willow, and suggest you also use random word generators to get yours.
I'm the OP for the project, but I guess that's obvious.
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No.1285
>>1283i agree, although it's best if we consult sniffles may be he can arrange something.
there's also the irc, i think we should get this board of the public listings
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No.1286
>>1285>arrange somethingWhat's that supposed to mean?
And there is no need to get off the index just yet. Last time I checked we were at position 132.
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No.1296
>>1286 since you're the only one with an identity.(nobody is tripfagging) it's best if you arrange something. it's best if he have true anonymity.
also i think we should decide the details of the event and date from now on. by some mediums (strawpoll etc).
there are some details that need to be finalised
1.target (example, stormfront, 4chan /pol/)
2.MO (new thread, slow exposure, sudden introduction and pretending it already exists)
3.incentives for derailers and unrecepective people (shunning, disregarding, ridicule etc.)
we should mark down a certain number of objectives and depending on our execution and penetration of the meme in a given period ( 7 days,30 days,180 days, 365 days)
also quality of execution (i.e the points in our agenda which are completed) should be considered
(no of goals)÷(quality of execution)= penetration quotient
(complete penetration time period i.e time in which all objectives are completed) ÷ desiginated time period = sucess quotient
for example if a meme has 100 objectives and 50 points of agenda
and 180 days of designated penetration time period. and 50% points of agenda are used and we get a instant completion of 15 goals then the penetration quotient for that moment is 1(ideally it's best if max penetration quotient is regarded as 2)
if all goals are completed in 60 days
then the sucess quotient is 3 if they're completed in 360 days it's 0.5.
also do we use KYM &ED to track our progress. do we interfere with the recorded history of the meme.
does anybody need to know about/32/
also do some objectives have more points than others.
after all we are the 32 flavour
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No.1299
>>1296Those are all valid suggestions.
You should add them to the titanpaste document (identified as your own ideas, of course).
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No.1309
>>1299I'll copypasta them
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No.1310
>>1309They don't seem to be in the pad. If you already pasted them in, unfortunately they may not have been saved... apparently you need to click the floppy disk in the upper right in order to guarantee your revision is saved.
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No.1311
>>1296- hxxp://strawpoll.me/4060548
- 4chan's /pol/ is the prime candidate for the first research project. However, we should begin considering options for future projects as soon as possible. Projects focusing on websites requiring usernames (like Reddit or Stormfront) will need to be planned well in advance.
- MO is definitely an issue that needs discussion. Any of the methods you mention could work. A slower "organic" approach could reduce suspicion and increase receptivity, while a more bombastic approach might be faster or more effective.
- We also need to determine which disincentives to apply against unreceptive people and to what degree they should be applied.
- There are several objectives/measures of effectiveness listed on the Titanpad. They could use more concrete metrics though and they are not currently assigned priority levels.
- Nobody needs to know about /32/ besides us. If Encyclopedia Dramatica or Know Your Meme makes an article for the meme we create then it could potentially be used to gauge our progress. However, the article shouldn't be edited or tampered with (at least, not for any reason I can think of). Even in a worst-case scenario in which the TA uncovers the origin of the meme and /32/ is mentioned in the article, attempting to remove it could produce something like the Striesand Effect.
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No.1319
Alright, from the poll it looks like we'll be starting next week. In the intervening time we should hammer out the rest of the plan, study up on memetics, and create some content to post (both text and images).
Do you guys think we should focus on threads, posts, or images in this project?
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No.1320
>>1319Images, initially. They can be posted in unrelated threads and draw the eye.
Also, how many of us are there interested in this? So far two people have edited the document.
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No.1325
>>1320The poll numbers jumped up while I was asleep. Assuming all voters would like to participate, it makes six of us.
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No.1331
>>1320I am decent with GIMP, and am more than willing to steadily produce OC of varying styles.
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No.1347
>>1331After we are done I think we should make a badge or symbol, like the ones from
http://www.naderlibrary.com/icouldtellyou.toc.htm, except digital, of course. The people that participated would save these images and some other codes, so on future projects we can know if our colleagues have some experience. Naturally, there would have to be a way to deliver these digital badges without making them public, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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No.1363
>>1331Those skills will be invaluable. As to styles, cartoons in the style of
>>1264 should be ideal.
As to myself, I don't have artistic ability, but I can write. It would be good to have some prompts ready to go for when we begin posting. I've gone ahead and posted some examples in the Titanpad. Feel free to add or comment on them as you see fit.
>>1347That's a novel idea. Incorporating cryptographic keys into them could help assure their validity.
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No.1366
>>1264As a waning /pol/ack, I both like the idea of CASPER and have confidence it can work. I have little else to contribute, sadly, except maybe the suggestion that you work the KKK's praise in with glorification of the "old south". /pol/ loves to hate the Union.
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No.1373
If you intend to participate, please add your name to the Titanpad:
projectcasper.titanpad.com/1
Posting will begin next week, date TBA. Please refrain from posting relevant material on /pol/ until then.
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No.1374
>>1331First request:
Medium to large image of poster. Same layout as the "I want you" recruiting poster, but with a Klansman in place of Uncle Sam. Text to be defined, feel free to try some different lines.
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No.1391
>>12473
>>13543
>>15985
Narcissism. I know, I know, shilling, but this one should be easy as it's not introducing a new idea. The description "SJW" is a dog whistle, to us it means narcissist even if we don't think about it, but not to others. Maybe just changing the language a bit. You could also see if the SJW reaction to their new description can be controlled.
Now, how you go about it is simple: drop references while on /gamergatehq/ whenever appropriate, if you are a twitterfag try to always bring it up when you need to deride a SJW. Controlling the reaction is more complicated, in fact it's fucking retarded because discussing an unified strategy to subtly direct it a certain(idiotic) way will get the our identities/accounts(if any) exposed. I'm assuming this is largely a pro-GG community.
I apologize to the Board Owner if I'm breaking the rule, post if I should post a less disruptive version of this and I will. It's just that since it's potentially involving a very large number of people on two sides and the disruption is just a distant indirect effect of the suggestion I'm uncertain if this is likely to be traced to us or result in lasting attention worst-case. I know both sides are really autistic about conspiracies against them, but at worst if someone snitches idiots/shills @ HQ will think they're being attacked and cry about it for a day or so, the time it takes for a new actual conspiracy against them to pop up. Ghazi will just attack us for a while I guess. It's impossible that there's white knights obsessed enough with control that they'd insist on attacking for months, but if there are people with this much autism stalking 8chan then how do you know they're not already watching us?
Does anyone know how autism came to be such a recurring word on the chans? There was a guy saying he and his community did it in some thread, I thought that was interesting. By the way /32/ is a poor board name for secrecy, it's retarded easy to find this board. You know why right? I wish I'd posted this earlier but there's more activity than expected from my first visit and I procrastinate too much.
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No.1392
>>>/gamergatehq/>>12473
>>>/gamergatehq/>>13543
>>>/gamergatehq/>>15985
I'm already risking post deletion anyway, so I'm going to test this here.
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No.1393
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No.1397
>>1374Sorry for the delay, was preoccupied for the past few days, I'll get to work.
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No.1398
>>1374Feel free to modify as you see fit. Or just ask if you want something else done to it.
Future notice for others, if there is no reference image, it will make things much harder.
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No.1406
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No.1417
Proposal: participants may begin posting April 16 UTC (8 PM April 15 EST) assuming the basic rules in the Titanpad are followed.
All in favor?
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No.1419
>>1398Here are my suggestions:
Make the hood more erect, it has a more virile connotation. Make the shoulder straighter, so it seems like he is leaning towards the viewer and has an aggressive posture. Include the edge of the hood and the red cross on the uniform.
Ad the text posted in the position posted. Starts at the top left and draws the eye down over the image. The font for "you" is slightly bigger than the rest and in a different color. Font family you used is perfect. Preferably clean version with white (or slightly pastel) background, and a margin is up to you.
>>1417Aye, as soon as this image is finished.
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No.1420
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No.1424
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No.1425
>>1419The Font is "Georgia" by the way.
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No.1431
>>1424>>1419I wasn't satisfied with the arms and text after I looked back the next day, so I revised it again.
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No.1433
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No.1434
>>1433Welp, now I feel like I've wasted a lot of time.
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No.1437
>>1434You haven't. The plan is to post those images, then post yours as ostensible derivative works, making it appear as if the meme is spreading organically. The TA should be a lot more receptive to the topic if it looks like other posters are in favor of it.
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No.1438
>>1437I figured that, I was somewhat joking, since that was basically what I was supposed to make, but 10x better.
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No.1439
>>1417Let's get into the IRC channel at that time instead of posting right away.
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No.1440
>>1439That's how it goes. We're usually on around 8-10 PM EST, though that can be adjusted as necessary.
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No.1471
>>1440Whoever is just floating around should get on the IRC at least once
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No.1512
>>1406
I think the poster you're replying to is spreading the meme that SJWs are largely type cluster B personality.
It would seem logical that they might be, and any disorder gives them oppression points, so it's not a bad operation, but seems a bit uncoordinated.
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No.1565
Lurker here. Have you guys started?
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No.1570
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No.1659
...
Ahem: >>>/bmw/
>>>/bmw/1
My my, I wonder who's behind this?
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No.3868
>>1107
Well, the odds are low, but my curiosity is too large to not try.
for any of you who were involved in or around this, did anything come of it? What lessons were learned?
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