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>>135131

Everything deserves it own thread, unless you're a jannie.

>>134626

This is how you change dimensions in the multiverse: 2 pairs of mirrors for space and 2 pairs for time. The first pair is opposite in sign from the current dimension, so it creates a new one. The second pair makes an "U" in space and creates a "U" in time. For example, consider a multiverse where the first dimension is parallel to the second, but where the second dimension changes through a second mirror instead of flipping over from the current dimension.

You move through the mirrors into the dimension you want. The world turns up to twelve inches across, and is populated by portals, dark and sinister-looking, that let you pass through. You move through them, and as the sight of the far end of the world turns into a heady scintillating green of realms and worlds above the mundane, you become aware of something you should have known all along. There is an awful, awful void between the realms you have just entered and the ones you are on. As you move through, however, the void melts away, and your tunnel is replaced by a gleaming golden light as you pass through. As the golden light fades, so too does your tunnel - it has ceased to be a tunnel. You have to make sure to cross into the dimension before the golden light fades! Cannot stress that enough. Enter the portal when the portal is glowing golden again and you'll be fine.

>>134626

Just judging by your body I can tell you're lost.

You want to change dimensions? Uproot yourself from your comfortable state and let the air carry you into the heavens.

>>135743

>let the air carry you into the heavens.

explain how pls

>>135819

Meditate on how you'd float on water.

For another hint, consider the akashic origin of air.

>>88569

>You can gain knowledge but the real truth is hidden inside yourself. You are a god caught in the trap of an illusion, and the illusions only power over you is keeping you from remembering who you are.

There is some shit in 2013 series lessons that does a good job of debunking that claim btw, forget which part of it, I think it was in the raja yoga section.

>>88334

>The lips of Wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding.

>>88626

I usually have pretty cool conversations in my dreams.

The entities are generally pretty understanding as long as I'm not being a butt. Getting explanations about this reality are difficult though, since we're communicating at a sort of crossroads of consciousness.

>>88627

That's not a claim. The "we are all one" is true. We are a singular being existing beyond all of this. the Ain Soph. We differentiate to create this illusion of separation. All of it, plant, animal, mineral, spiritual, etc. is just us pretending to be separate.

It doesn't make the illusion less substantial, less complicated, or any easier to solve and escape though. But part of the path of return is becoming aware of the fact that we are indeed all one, even while believing we are separate entities.

I don't know how you can hear what you denounce if you hear theurgy.

I think a lot of it comes down to understanding, and also coming to terms with the idea that you could control more once those blocks have been released.

>>129950

Relativity is bullshit and you're clearly a fucking brainlet midwit that doesn't even understand what he claims to. Relativity is based on the false assumptions that time is real, space has properties, and that it is known what light is. But you wouldn't know any of this because you don't know shit about relativity to begin with.

Literally kill yourself you moron waste of fresh air.

>>135601

You forgot to mention that Einstein was a DIRTY JEW KIKE who probably received his so-called "miracle papers" from the Elders of Zion so as to cement the worship of the Jew scientism-priests who know nothing but sodomy and sin.

>>129950

>muh science

>fug our calculations don't work out

>better solve that by claiming there is an invisible thing that makes up 99% of the universe

>>135611

Yes. And that he stole relativity from "goyim" scientists. The Jews hate us "goyim" because we are superior. They are impostors and deceivers.

>>135740

superior in getting invaded by darkies maybe

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>>109363

>then each of us has to be constantly observed by an external consciousness in order to exist

Then what is observing god in order for him/it to exist?

>>135721

>>135598

Theoria Apophasis hasn't said anything new ever. And he repeats himself constantly, never really delving into things. Just uses word salads that trick only normies. And he is a huge hypocrite.

That being said what I said about quantum has nothing to do with him. Quantum is clearly bullshit to anyone that actually thinks it through.

Other people in this thread also called QM and its followers retards, why do you call me out? Why do you stalk me?

>>135656

>>135666

The chaote is right, but has committed an even bigger issue. Doing these sorts of invocations and elemental breathing techniques isn't for undeveloped beginners.

If you haven't built up your constitution, and have a good knowledge of your own inner workings, you can fuck yourself up mentally and/or emotionally.

And then for the triple-whammy, he hasn't included the expiration, or banishment, which means that whatever element or symbol was invoked, will remain invoked and unbalance the individual potentially for the rest of their lives.

So, our friendly chaote: 1. Tells a fedora to build up massive amounts of differential chaos until he starts having psychotic breakdowns and seeing shit, 2. doesn't mention the requirements for this stuff, and the severe consequences of not meeting them, and 3. abandons the fedora in the shadow realm for the rest of his life.

So, just a chaote being a chaote. The best part is that the fedora, having read this, will now most likely try to prove it to be bullshit, and do it anyway.

>>135656

What is it? Trees?

>>135672

This is the hardest thing about trying to get to grips with this stuff, it seems like there's so many stumbling blocks and people trying to trip you up at every turn… I recently bought a copy of Oberon Zell's Grimoire For The Apprentice Wizard, I'm hoping it will help me learn the foundations without fucking me up too bad.

>>135673

If you look at it for long enough relaxing the focus of your eyes, once you sync up your left and right brain a 3D image will pop out at you. Without spoiling too much for you this image contains a 3D two legged figure.

>>135682

>I also just saw a glowing shape near the edge of my vision

They tend to do things like this. There is no need manifesting with physical light/shape if they can get away with manipulating your perception of reality, it's less energy consuming. This is also supposed to be a poltergeist. There seemed to be a group of them conveniently showing themselves as you started this thread, I invited one other of them to my place. Compared to previous ones, this one is pretty active. Making sounds in the kitchen when I'm in the next room, banging on radiators, flipping pages in my piano course book… Yeah it's just the wind, and things fell and caused sounds. But if you mentally accept that this sudden increase in unrelated weirdness may have a specific source, reality changes.

>>135675

I want to add though that James, after learning everything he could about the subjects, believed in it so much that he had all the wizards and witches wiped out. So, for James to learn the truth about witchcraft, he studied it himself. (Then he burned them all at the stake.)

https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2019/10/royal-obsession-black-magic-started-europes-most-brutal-witch

I might order this book now. Seems interesting.

>>135675

>You have been banned from /christian/

Called it.

>The MAN (NOT GOD) who had a part in deciding what went in and what didn't get into your Bible was also a skilled sorcerer and necromancer.

I don't see any problem with that.

>>135676

>he had all the wizards and witches wiped out

Literally any sorcerer will do this if given enough power.

>>135677

>Literally any sorcerer will do this if given enough power.

Yeah. Seems that way, huh? After all the witch hunting was done, they eventually employed John Dee, but that was "okay" because he uses white magic. And so the British Empire was born. I'm sure the Royals still use magick today, but they don't want people to know about it. Probably the reason why James removed Enoch from the Bible. Too much Angel stuff in that book.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/authors/the-man-who-spoke-to-angels/

>>135678

Pretty much, except James wasn't the one who excluded Enoch from the canon. If you look at Orthodox bibles, which are basically the original texts as they were once the Bible was compiled, Enoch is still not included, and remains a separate book.

I think the reason for that lies more in how Enoch presents a different initiatic path, which is largely unachievable for modern people, while the New Testament basically supersedes it in every way. It's very important as a study text, but doesn't contribute to the spiritual core that the Bible represents, and is therefore not included. This is why other apocryphal texts from the same period are also left out, and treated as separate entities.

You shouldn't ree too hard about what is and isn't in the Bible, as it was never considered to be the Word of God by the people who compiled it. That whole interpretation is a Protestant innovation, the Word of God always referred to Christ, and while all the books in the Bible are directly inspired by the Holy Spirit, they aren't the only ones.

>>131739

>It's taught in Vedanta that Brahman exists forever as eternal bliss that is forever at rest, forever contented, without need of anything; what purpose what motion or activity play here?

And yet our experience is a proof of the existence of motion and transmigration.

>When all desires are satisfied, when there is no hole in one's heart that needs to be filled, what could be the point of activity, there is nothing that activity would add to this other than being a needless distraction.

So how did this universe came into being? If the eternal Brahman is not endowed with the capacity for action then nothing could have ever happened, including the perceived differentiation into objects and subjects, which is our condition. Conversly - any action could not have taken place either - including dropping of wrong views regarding the Self.

>That term applies far more to non-dual teachers like Ramanuja and Abhinavagupta (even though I do respect them) who preached non-duality but who weren't willing to take up the ascetic/renunciate lifestyle and would come up with justifications why it wasn't needed.

Why would non-dual teachings require renounciation? On the contrary - if the whole of reality is an expression of yourself then what would you renounce and for what reason? Everything is equally permeated with divine consciousness, if something was more sacred than other then it would make a doctrine preaching such a thing dualistic.

>Shankara was the one who actually practiced what he preached by living as a possessionless monk

Abhinava never preached a necessity for not having possessions (on the basis of scriptures) so you can't say that he was a hypocrite. On the contrary - he fully embodied his teachings and was a realized master in many lineages of Tantra, posessing many siddhis and leading countless others towards enlightenment. If he were a possessionless monk - that would be hyprocritical.

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>>131739

"The individual soul is a cognizer, a conscious agent, who consists of everything [that arises in its sphere of experience]; therefore, as the Spanda-kārikās teach, "the state that is not Consciousness does not exist in words, thoughts, or things," whether past, present, or future. The real meaning of this verse is that everything has God as its real nature. – And since it is so, the conscious perceiver is an active *experiencer* who exists as the feeling-state of the given object of experience, yet remains the same, neither lessened nor increased, at all times and in all loci of experience, such as the various tattvas and worlds. Nor can any object of experience whatsoever be something separate from its experiencer. So the Spanda-kārikā verse (2.4) establishes that in actuality there is no difference whatsoever between Śiva and the individual soul. Thus, one should not think oneself incomplete or imperfect with regard to any state of the body, mind, etc. On the contrary, one should know “My essence-nature is Śiva, undivided Awareness, in the form of this very state.”"

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>>131342

It would probably assert that consciousness transmigrating is an illusion, just like the rest of life.

>>131097

Insane cringe, please swiftly kill yourself trash.

>>131106

The "Aryans" were brown people.

>>127191

My philosophy is related to porn. I'm a philosopher, so I have a feeling about porn. I like the way philosophy deals with sexual issues. I was already considering buying sex toys, but my girlfriend doesn't buy things just because you suggest it. But I can't use it, so instead I download it.

The original theory was that sex toys might be the highest quality stuff on the market, but in reality, the homemade stuff is usually better. That's why I'm a little hesitant.

Since it's my girlfriend, I think she'd do better to do her own thing. But I don't feel like I have a lot of choice, so I just decided to look into it.

My girlfriend whittled a dildo from wood and that I sometimes use as a sex toy. She's pretty professional and has a kind of Eastern European feel to her, but also makes me feel really badass for being willing to do something like this for her.

One evening I was hoping to watch a screening of a documentary about men who need other men to perform fellatio for them. I wasn't particularly keen on talking about my own duties in the bedroom. "No, that's fine, I don't talk about that sort of thing." I was telling the truth, but it had been so long since I had worked it out that I didn't know whether to trust my lies or not.

She came strolling out the bathroom wearing a strap-on with a wooden phallus on it. It had straps on the sides, and at the end she was wearing a strap on her stomach. I don't remember her face. As I was kneeling behind her, playing with her tits, she bent over to pick something up off the floor. I looked up and saw the wooden phallus she was wearing. It was hard and shiny, the sort you'd see an urban farmer playing with in his hand. It was screwed onto her, with a click. But it wasn't the wooden plug it's always been. I figured if she got turned on by the sight of the phallus she'd fuck it after she got done with me.

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>>127191

Rephrase/recontext:

when i'm in my most advanced zone, i am the witness. the ultimate "spiritual method" is the simplest: the letting go of attachment to all ego positionalities.

While ascending the spiral staircase, i am constantly refracted and re-refracted through all of the relative concepts i cling to and all the limiting concepts with which i identify as my sense of self.

While re-passing through these concepts there is a seductive tendency to philosophize and make something out of nothing and masturbate masturbate masturbate with these (relatively interesting but absolutely meaningless) concepts. cue the compulsive desire to articulate and explain to others and assume the role of philosophizing guru.

This too must be let go and released into oblivion along with every idea and limited concept i insist on clinging to about mySelf. How difficult this is to do is mathematically equivalent to my desire to masturbate with the tender agony of false concepts and egoic position reinforcement.

>>127191

Pythagoras wasn't the first philosopher you fucking clown. You don't know shit about Pythagoras and it is evident because you that he was the first philosopher. Pythagoras claimed to have brought philosophy to the Greeks from the Egyptian priests. 'Philosophos' means "lover of wisdom" in Greek and comes from 'mer-rekh' in Egyptian which means "lover of wisdom".

This board is full of fucking LARPing idiots.

>>135596

>This board is full of fucking LARPing idiots.

/fringe/ is cringe

>>115578

>it's just DUDE metaphors lmao

>implying odin wasnt a real person

>implying the events detailed in the bhagavad gita didnt actually happen

cope harder, jordan peterson

Have you read metaphysics?

"Neoplatonism" isn't a faith. The Neoplatonists were "pagans", then many famous Christians, Jews, and Muslims were Neoplatonists as well. You can be a Neoplatonist and practice any religion. Religion is tradition/culture and the exoteric of it is a necessary component of society as it leads the hylics to God and virtue.

lol idiot

>>135377

Try picking up a phone right now with the intent to call a random business in your area and ask them about a product. Freeze and let your mind go empty with the phone in hand and wait for impressions to arise in the mind. Tell me what you observe comes up in your mind.

>>135397

> Try reading books and recording that if you find it too hard.

I recommend this also I have a phobia of talking in general that took me years to get over because I lived isolated way too long and I just had to stand around in a public area at a busy market and very gradually come out of it. Narrating books helps you get used to talking and that then extends to being able to relax more in conversations with people.

Also something that helped too is I experienced some embarrassments (e.g. going to a public gym and in the lock room people get undressed totally naked, I had to just do it and get my swim suit on, and eventually after a couple times I stopped thinking about it when I realized all the old men around me don't give a fuck) and that kind of stuff helped shift something inside of me that made my anxiety around people less.

Another thing to try is sit around with a bum on some street and talk to him for hours. This also helps come out of the shell.

The more and more you can put yourself in increasingly "dangerous" situations where you are worried about being judged or whatever eventually you can tune the anxiety down and stop caring.

>>135397

>I too have a phobia of phones, is still a struggle but we must muscle through sometimes. I would a million times rather meet someone and talk to them face to face than through phones, right now that so much dating scene is online it really pushes me away, people want you to call them or answer their phone calls before meeting, is akward to say the least. Same with job interviews, skype is hell for me, voicenotes are difficult. I would much rather go to an office but thats not at all how it works nowadays in my field, is all contract long distance work.

I have this problem lately with talking to people with emails and the worst thing is I feel they are ghosting me talking less and less and just ignoring my emails. I can't see their faces and fine tune my words based on their reactions and I have no idea if my esoteric rantings are going off the deep end with them or not.

test test test

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>>135234

>you can't hate bad things

*tips*

>>135233

>>135234

You are a moron. I honestly don't know what else to say; you're so bluepilled it's just that baffling.

>>135231

>Don't fall for divide and conquer strategy.

This isn't divide and conquer, it's about improvement for men. This is a sex-obsessed gynocentric culture, and men need to learn to discipline and look out for themselves.

>The problems are very real, but their source is the social structure, not true feminine energy.

No one was saying otherwise. Feminine energy itself is fine, the problem is women, and likewise men. Mankind has simply devolved into depravity for the most part. Both men and women are degenerate now, it's just that this community places more emphasis on how women have degenerated in the hopes of improving the state of men, among other reasons stated ITT.

>>127274

IQ tests have a high test-retest correlation

however, they're obviously not perfect

>>135327

OK hugless virgin. I hope you realize you just proved you've reincarnated to know hate and separation. Or are you willing to learn and rise above your baseline?

>>135401

based

Recent video about Robin Amis.

>>135144

Part 2. Gurdjieff, Robin Amis and the Collapse of Civilization

Imagine being the lineage of Issha (Davinci code) and Genghis Khan.

The anti-christ reborn.

>>135145

Great 5 hour documentary about St Paisios. The wonder-worker who Robin Amis met on Mount Athos and the same in the this book >>134851

I've used Lenormand more than tarot. When I want to cast tarot, I use a standard deck of playing cards.

>>130014

The best deck I've ever used is called "The Eternal Tarot". It uses the true order of the Tarot which is the Fool as the 21st, Strength as 11 and Justice at 8, as Eliphas Levi secretly revealed. Readings should be done at an altar with lit candles, an upright pentagram, and the seal of the sign of the cross.

Next best deck is Thoth deck but be careful with it as its easily turned into black magic.

>>130169

I suppose that makes my progresses with the Rider-Waite as a beginner with accuracy from the first reading something worth looking back on. I haven't interacted with any cartomancy in a while.

I post because I originally thought that the Rider-Waite was as close as I could get to the old stuff while using money. I suggest that the perspective of the user also has an impact on the readings - the person who expects to have a less accurate reading will get that additional inaccuracy. Before even starting with the Tarot in a first reading by that deck, I invested time meditating with individual cards, and researching the meaning of the symbolisms that were present. I think I spent a few weeks doing this before diving in.

This being said, I'm more inclined to experiment with both before drawing any conclusions for my personal means.

>>130014

I use the marseille, thoth and rider-waite. I also have a few oracles. In actuality, you can do divination with anything, so it doesn't matter if the deck is shit as long as you aren't so triggered by it you are unable to hear it speak.

>>135147

>Don't let any masturbatory bleakness tell you differently

The world outside must also not be left without hope. As can be seen by the following quote, our highly advanced technology has allowed humans to explore space and beyond, conquering every unexplored corner of our planet. In this, many are brought together, ready to reach the stars with what they have learned in this new frontier of space travel.

What does that imply for the future of humanity? By its nature, space travel is bound to be extremely harsh, which makes it a no-brainer that we'll look to the future to try and survive all the hardship and tragedy that it may entail. Does this mean that the human race can look back and look at the troubles of the past and move past the distant moons of dying planets?

>>135178

You won't find any wisdom from the /pol/ crowd. You're better off with the greenpill reading list, if you want to go forward rather than backward.

>>135195

What is the greenpill reading list where can i find it

>>134934

>Q is in all probability a psy-op to make people complacent and put their hopes into a fictional Q to save us all.

They have certainly played this well by playing on people's ego's to enlist their support for the war on terror and their old economical methods which have allowed us to enjoy the lavish lifestyles we have today (gas, luxuries and. health care) without having to bother to learn about all the injustices and petty daily injustices that go on in our daily lives. There is no Q, at least no candidate with a presidential level platform or vote counting that is going to even consider ending the war on drugs and ending the fact that we have two separate forms of banking system.

That is the real Q that is at play behind the democratic world's naivete about technology, in the era of Donald Trump's promotion of populist nationalism. What has happened in Silicon Valley is not inevitable. It is the product of e-democracy and its openness, and the first generation of good engineers who saw that it could be automated and empowered. Today's technology will just keep getting better and better; the world will keep getting bigger and richer and more powerful, and the scale of that power will only get bigger.

>>134617

For a second there I thought you were an obvious troll.

But now I got the feeling you're not.

Look, what you are experiencing is called mental masturbation. You can be excused from falling for Atkinson's own egolatry at first, but keep at it and you'll become a clueless poser.

The Kybalion is a derivative work. A rewording of another book so it was more palatable to the public of the time. He was basically the equivalent to today's new age youtubers, which I often find informative and useful, don't get me wrong.

>In 1884, Anna Kingsford, an Englishwoman who founded an organisation called the Hermetic Society, published a book entitled The Virgin of the World of Hermes Trismegistus, which presents an adaptation of the Hermetic texts. As Greer points out, the introduction to this book bears a strong similarity to many of the ideas in The Kybalion. And in fact the introduction to The Virgin of the World, written by Kingsford’s associate Edward Maitland, does contain a number of things that are echoed in The Kybalion.

https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/the-mysterious-kybalion

This book, The Virgin of the World, is what the Kybalion pretends to be and where it takes most of it's rehashed info from: https://sacred-texts.com/eso/vow/index.htm

>>134614

>reminder that the Hermetic literature is the Corpus Hermetica and the Divine Pyromander, not some 20th century new age spiritualist bullshit like the Kybalion.

https://www.ancienttexts.org/library/egyptian/hermetica/index.html (links to chapters in both sides of the page)

All words, being dual, are lies that act as metaphor for Truth. Truth is infinite and thus is impossible to put into finite words. It is foolish to get upset over the use of one metaphor over another, they are all lies. It is up to the practitioner to use them correctly to reach the Truth.

>>134632

oh my god thank you finally ive been wondering where the real source came from and what exactly is so hermetic about the godmaned Kybalion

though this still leaves an etymological study to be desired

>>134614

And if you were to believe something that makes a dog poop or your piss gold in the street and it is truly divine, you can not get in deep enough to find it. And thus there is a double standard: The domain of the Ego is pure philosophy, while the realm of reality is a shared hallucination produced by the brain. This is the definition of the Very Lie, the common denominator between all religions, thus The God That Fights Monsters.