/islam/ - 8kun Masjid

>>43193

You should cite which hadith it's from and other relevant information. We're an English speaking board.

Narrated Abu Huraira:

A bedouin came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "My wife has delivered a black child." The Prophet (ﷺ) said to him, "Have you camels?" He replied, "Yes." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "What color are they?" He replied, "They are red." The Prophet (ﷺ) further asked, "Are any of them gray in color?" He replied, "Yes." The Prophet asked him, "Whence did that grayness come?" He said, "I thing it descended from the camel's ancestors." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) said (to him), "Therefore, this child of yours has most probably inherited the color from his ancestors."

-Sahih al-Bukhari 6847

>>43193

A'isha RA reported: Sa'd b. Abu Waqqas and Abd b. Zam'a RA disputed with each other over a young boy. Sa'd said: Messenger of Allah, he is the son of my brother 'Utba b. Abu Waqqas as he made it explicit that he was his son. Look at his resemblance. Abd b. Zam'a said Messenger of Allah, he is my brother as he was born on the bed of my father from his slave-girl. Allah's Messenger PBUH looked at his resemblance and found a clear resemblance with 'Utba. (But) he said: He is yours 0 'Abd (b. Zam'a), for the child is to be attributed to one on whose bed it is born, and stoning for a fornicator. Sauda bint Zam'a, O you should observe veil from him. So he did not see Sauda at all. Muhammad b. Rumh did not make a mention (of the words):" O Abd." [Muslim 3435]

A hadith like this is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Uyaiyna and Ma'mar (and the words are): The child is attributed to him on whose bed he is born; but they did not mention this:" For a fornicator there is stoning." [Muslim 3436]

Abu Huraira RA reported Allah's Messenger PBUH as saying: The child is to be attributed to one on whose bed he is born, and for a fornicator there is stoning. [Muslim 3437]

A hadith like this is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira. [Muslim 3438]

>>43212

>>43193

I've seen this being thrown around on half-chan the past year, so I looked into this before. But what the half channers are implying is flawed, especially since it works on 2 assumptions:

>Arabs, (especially Arabs 1400 years ago) were white

>That "black" in the Arabic linguistic and cultural context of the time refers to black African that we refer to now.

I found this site before that did a good job at explaining it, white and light skin amongst arabs at the time was actually the exception, it was rare, darker skin, and 'jet black' skin was more of the norm. https://alajamwalarab.com/my-wifes-given-birth-to-a-jet-black-skinned-child/

So in this case, the issue was about the baby being dark skinned, not about the baby being black as in African, when we put it into perspective of todays western context. Now that we have the context its not out of the realm of possibility that this dark skinned trait could be hidden or recessive inheritance of the parents genes. This rather shows the complex understanding of heredity that our Prophet (SAW) had.

Compare this to people who would disown their child or kill them and their wife just because the kid has a different hair colour, like thats where the term "red headed step child" comes from, because they didn't understand that red hair is a recessive trait that can be hidden in the lineage, so they'd instead automatically assume its not his child.

>>43262

Ok, thank you brothers especially you, my friend.

Fascism was born in Europe, so it's really no surprise. Though I would like to see what the Imam said before passing judgment on the situation.

>>43242

>they deleted it

https://bianet.org/english/world/238300-belgium-to-deport-homophobic-imam-appointed-by-turkey-s-religious-authority

>>43250

>He wrote a discriminatory message on Facebook and said that "homosexuality is an illness, causes decay and is forbidden by Islam."

> After a follower commented, "Homosexuality is a virus of capitalism and democracy", the imam then thanked this follower for this comment.

>"We cannot tolerate this stigmatization of the homosexual community and spreading of such messages. If you have the right to work as an imam in Belgium, you have an exemplary duty. Everyone who does not want to hold our values will have to bear the consequences."

i.e., we will shove our secularist beliefs down your throat, we will choose your beliefs

>>43260

Well, if that's all he said, I don't see the big deal. It's harmless. It's basically, "I don't like the gays." and isn't a call to murder or anything like that. Makes me glad I'm in America, where I can still say things like that without getting kicked out or jailed.

>>28736

>>28750

Would that be like the "alif laam meem" verses?

>>42136

mutashabihat

It was reported from ʿAlī that he stated, "[Those rooted in knowledge] are the ones whom knowledge has protected from plunging [into the interpretation of the Qurʾān] according to some whim (hawā) or with set arguments (ḥujaj maḍrūba) without [awareness of] the unseen [mysteries] (ghuyūb)."

Rene Guenon luciferian, not muslim

>salafis seething about a great practicioner of tasawuf

always funny

>>43085

It also tells us to not walk into a cave filled with snakes and scorpions, not to fall off of a cliff, and not walk in front of an active gunrange. Allah gave us the intellect to have fear of what will cause harm to us. You cannot claim that the only good Muslims are completely fearless. Someone can be afraid of heights and be a good Muslim at the same time.

>>43086

Muhammad(pbuh) feared only Allah. We should be more like him.

>>42925

Strange indeed

>>42938

Jokes on you, I love monopoly.

What kind of 🤬ed up punishment is that?

The self-professed polytheists and idolators that call themselves "christians" are breaking the greatest commandment of all. The reason why they don't describe Jesus quoting the OT is they admit he's not even in there! He's a new idol, born from a woman his father was not married to, incarnated to suckle on another man's bride's breasts, that probably was underaged as customary for jewish virgins at the time. Yet, there is not much point in going into details beyond that about traits of their idols. They'd have to prove polytheism to be valid first, since without that it doesn't matter how zeus lived his life, if he murdered 2000 pigs for no reason and was tempted by satanic orgies for 40 days and was a literal disgraced curse or what.

But even if we overlook their polytheism, they're still shameless liars and hypocrites. For example they go on about how their idol will come and subjugate all people through force, yet say he's good because he failed to murder anyone in round 1. He's only going to genocide people in the future! Well that changes everything, how nice of him.

And then they go on about how the disciples were so virtuous for being martyred in the name of christ(even though they're made up accounts centuries after the facts), yet for other people, that reflects poorly on them?

Polytheists of the cross just can't keep themselves from lying and contradicting themselves every time they open their mouths. There simply is no way you can describe the idol of the NT as a good being, let alone a true god, without lying shamelessly.

>>42504

If you want to use NT as an argument, at least post NT in Aramaic the language of Jesus (AS) not some Greek, Latin bullcrap, assuming you have the original, you also have to be able to tell us the biography of Mark, Luke and John, if they indeed really existed, and no we don't believe Paul is a prophet, so we'll disregard anything written by this person.

Otherwise we won't take NT seriously, since it's probably not the same Injeel that was revealed by Allah to Jesus (AS).

>>43096

Yes, he should help you out as it is his duty as the Imam. But you don't need an Imam to convert to Islam, you can do it on your own if necessary. It is good to get into contact with other Muslims, even if they are few.

Thank you all.

I have one more question. I am still catholic, should I first officially apostate? In polish Church this is not easy process because polish priests are douchebags.

Or can I convert to islam without official apostate?

>>43101

Once you convert to Islam, everything before that moment ceases to matter. You will no longer be Catholic, even if the Catholic church thinks you are.

>>43102

Great :) It cheers me up.

Thank you greatly.

>>43094

>>43095

>>43109

Just wanted to say this is all outstanding. Very good information. May Allah reward you abundantly.

And to OP

>>43093

May Allah make this path easy for you. I wish for you the best in your journey (:

>>29659

+also I should add, they ARE knocking down mosques.

>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44410597

>Austria to shut seven 'political' mosques and expel imams

So not only are they removing a place of worship, but EXPELLING learned scholars of Islam. So Muslims in these countries will have to pray alone and lack community and become assimilated.

>>29680

Look brother, you are right. From how I speak in this thread, I may have sounded like /pol/ raider who hates blacks, brown people, etc. I don't care about these kufr regimes honestly, may Allah punish some of their leaders when time comes. I believe that everyone should have right to live wherever they want on Earth, I am not racist /pol/ack either who believes in racial supremacy or anything either. I am actually ethnic mix myself (although I am white skinned) of middle eastern and european (my mother is revert).

My original point was reply to someone saying we should defend immigrants in Europe (maybe I misunderstood what he said) and I thought why should we waste effort trying to defend them when many are just apostates and criminals (obviously majority are good). There are far more pressing matters for Ummah. Every current Muslim-majority country is plauged with corruption and rising apostasy. Rohingyas, Uyghurs, Palestians, Syrians are all facing problems under kufr regimes. Now there is even news that Tatars in Russian-controlled Crimea are facing problems.

Sorry if I sound hostile

>>29681

I forgot about this news, but it is sad

>>29471

Every cent of jizya we waste on your welfare checks will one day be extracted from you again, with interest greater than you could imagine.

I read that the American secret intellegence agency's are planning to cause rifts in the muslim community in the U.S after explaining that islam "is not an religion"

America is really the devil in an angel suit. They also have an weapon called the voice of god weapon wich lets them fool muslims in to believing god is talking to them directly.

May Allah help us against the schemers and plotters

>>43082

Your paranoia cult tactics won't work on this board. We're not the smooth brained channers you're used to. Try /pnd/. They'll believe anything you tell them.

>>42995

she^^^

>>43048

Your obsession with transgenderism says more about you than it does anything else. I'm guessing you have a major futa fetish and you're ashamed of it, so you lash out.

>>43069

Thou shalt never obsess over penis.

>>43048

There is literally nothing wrong with bring trans. There's like, a hadith about this.

>>43115

Was it this hadith?

"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) cursed the women who imitate men and the men who imitate women."

[Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3013]

You believed.

Took a name for a new life.

Live righteously

As a convert I personally won't change my name. I have Christian name that's Germanic in origin not Biblical. You're name doesn't really affect your faith unless you have a very explicitly pagan name or something.

Most non Arab Muslim countries will have a mix of native names and arabic names anyways.

Also imo you can never truly change your birth name. To me it'll always feel like larping if I started calling myself Hussain or something. I'll probably name my kids Arabic names though.

>>42916

>larping

It's just a name, it's not like you need to start acting like an Arab or something

>>42917

I don't have a problem if other people want to take on arabic names, i'm just saying personally it feels like larping if i start calling myself a name thats different from my birth name

>>27582

Culture should be valued according to the blessings and guidance of God within it.

>>42921

>Are curses real?

For the millionth time: NO

Why do you keep asking?

>I really feel like God has cursed me

Facts don't care about your feelings.

>>42926

>It's the first time I ever post about this

Then you need to check the QTDDTOT because someone keeps claiming to be cursed every few days or so in there and we always answer the same way.

>I'd just like to know how am I not the victim

Because the universe doesn't revolve around you.

>be able to go through all the hardships and accept that he is benevolent and merciful?

Yes, very good, that is exactly how it works.

>What mercy there ever was for me?

70-80 years of pain for an eternity of bliss is a pretty damn good deal for you.

>I can't ask God himself

Yes, you can.

>I can't find answers in the Quran

All answers are in Qur'an

>not cursed aberrations like me

There's no such thing as curses. Like I told the last guy who spewed all this drivel: if your life is screwed up, stop looking for mystical excuses. It is YOUR fault. Do something about it.

>>42926

Be grateful for your faith when you have it.

There's an exmaple in the Quran about people who, when at sea, beg for Allah's help in the middle of the storm and promise sincere dedication, but when they return to safety they continue to do evil.

31:32

I wonder, did prophet muhammad(phuh) even know anything about syriac texts? We need help of science of history.

>>42833

>(phuh)

?

>>42834

typo

>>42834

PBUH stands for "Peace Be Upon Him." We say that or the Arabic translation of it when referring to prophet Muhammed or other prophets.

>>42871

it's actually

>Muhammad

>Peace and Blessings Be Upon Him

>other prophets

>Peace Be Upon Him

>>32905

وَمَا دُعَاءُ الْكَافِرِينَ إِلَّا فِي ضَلَالٍ

>their only arguments are some ☻ they saw on wikiislam

>they all have this "I just learned something" syndrom

>from the time they know you are an islamist, they automatically presuppose that you have no knowledge, no culture and you cannot think by yourself, they are of a level of arrogance

>they multiply so quickly, especially on the rich class, who thinks religion is something for the so retarded populace

>less and less true intellectuals muslims in this country

wow, very same with turkey

>>32914

That's because the scholars for dollars of turkey (diyanet) and the palace scholars of the moroccan king are working for the government with a corrupt aqeedah teaching the people.

Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah does not withhold knowledge by snatching it away from his servants, but rather he withholds knowledge by withholding scholars, until no scholar remains and people follow ignorant leaders. They are asked and they issue judgments without knowledge. Thus, they are astray and lead others astray.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 100, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2673

>>32916

well, diyanet was founded by atatürk after all. so he could spread his kufr with help of munafiqoon and mushrikeen easier. thank god we have this hadith, rasulullah(saw) spoke the truth.

>>27464

rhmdolilah, nhmd sidi arbi wnchakrith.

but it started, among young women.

>>35740

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is the most similar to the grappling of the sunnah (from what ive heard) with its focus on skillfully controlling and then overpowering the opponent

>>42856

deus vult douche troll detected

>>42857

We get a lot of those, usually starting as concern trolls before showing their true colors.

>>41574

>>41573

Which servers are you in?

Anyone on the persona fanclub discord I used to be in it…

It’s the christian world, the ”nation under God” - USA, and Europe etc., that have taken to championing LGBT and forcing it upon the rest of the world. But these letters are not formed through coincidence, nor is it new. We’ve actually all heard the name before, when we were warned of it. It is in fact the very name of satan الجبت LGBT(vocalized eLGiBT). Ask yourselves why the christian nations are so eager to venerate this name? Could it be that this is in fact the true name of the christian deity and chief of the trinity, a holy tetragrammaton?

>>42138

It's not a coincidence I think as letters could be arranged differently.

As Allah says they believe in Al Jibt and Taghut

Magicians are known to use sodomy in their rituals

Yes, this applies to all who disbelieve