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File: 899664a901b92c9⋯.jpg (39.96 KB,500x501,500:501,muslim pepe.jpg)

6cc78a No.35702 [Open thread]

Does anyone have a reliable, well formatted, plaintext, UTF-8 copy of Bukhari and Muslim? I found http://tanzil.net for the Qur'an but nothing similar for the Sahihs.

Also while I'm here, what are the most complete OTF Arabic fonts?

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760456 No.35707

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6cc78a No.35711

>>35707

I tried that one, the formatting was super bad

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760456 No.35769

>>35711

Hmm, well best of luck finding another one. You could take that one and format it for your personal needs. It will take a lot of work, but it can be done.

Like this page https://8ch.net/islam/quran.html was done from a UTF-8 Qur'an. It took some work, but there it is.

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6cc78a No.35793

>>35769

That's super cool, I didn't know we had that.

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760456 No.35795

>>35793

Yeah, there's a link at the top, but most folks just scroll past that mess.

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648b34 No.35721 [Open thread]

On Netflix. It’s about a former black panther who becomes an FBI informat and targets muslims including young revert brother.

This should be required viewing and Peter Bergen’s United States of Jihad should be required reading so people can protect themselves.

Also this recent Mad Mamluks podcast has a brother who explains how the system today is hardwired to be anti-muslim.

https://themadmamluks.com/ep-142-no-more-tears-the-christchurch-attack-hossam-gamea/

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d000a3 No.35738

I watched it. Pretty much everyone in the documentary is a really odd sort of character. Especially the guy who just smoked marijuana all the time.

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dda9c8 No.35773

I don't have netflix. Has anyone downloaded this and would be willing to share?

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f49f7f No.35784

>>35773

I checked pirate bay and didnt see it.

You can do a free trial on netflix, tho.

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ad9ac2 No.35791

>>35773

I checked the usual sites, but it seems nobody has a torrent of it. Even Yify doesn't have it, which is surprising as they usually have every Netflix movie. You might just have to do a free trial.

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a7ced2 No.35642 [Open thread]

In the Name of Allah (swt) the Most Merciful the Especially Merciful

Asalamu Alaykum, I am a Shi'a of an Ithna'asheri persuasion and would like to discuss a rather controversial and mostly volatile topic.

The topic being the Adala' (nature) of the Sahaba (companions) of The Messenger of Allah (s)

To make sure the thread fulfils its purpose to be a mostly academic discusson, I highly advise not replying with emotional arguments, or for us to abuse one another.

REMINDER:

ATTACK THE ARGUMENT, NOT THE POSTER

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929647 No.35656

>>35645

Exactly.

OP, why don’t you post some of the full un-edited debates that Mohamed Hijab has had with British shiies itt?

People in this sub are not scholars and neither are you. You are going to paste some provocational stuff that was probably written in farsi and then retconned into bad arabic and then back to farsi and then to english with weird isnaad.

Ok. You can do that. So what?

What is there to debate on this topic really besides the isnaads? Because our ahadith are clear.

So you really have to show us that Sunni hadith that speak highly of rashidun and other companions have fabricated isnaads.

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80486c No.35781

>>35656

In terms of the Shi'a corpus of hadith, the position of a few of the notable sahaba is quite clear. From Abi Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ayesha, and their likes.

With regards to many of the narrations that supposedly speak of the virtues of such individuals, many even within your circles have put doubt on their transmission.

Of which is the famous narration of 'the ten promised paradise', which has been put into question.

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dfd610 No.35783

>>35781

Show us how shii isnads compare to sunni isnads.

Understand that most Sunnis hate weak hadith and we write books like “100 Fabricated Hadith” to disprove them. But also understand if you disprove some daeef hadith it doesnt mean there isnt sahih hadith that lead to same reverence for certain individuals.

Also realize you can’t apply circular reasoning such as disqualifying hadith with certain companions in isnad because you make takfir on them.

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fc9a32 No.35785

>>35783

ilm ul hadith is only needed for sunnis since they don't have an infallible imam at all times which is required by appealing to the concepts of 'adl and maslaha, whereas shia that affirm imamate do. So all we have to do is ask the infallible imam that receives wahy for guidance and fatawa….oh wait a second, I forgot that he's been hiding in a cellar for 1200 years and doesn't make contact with anyone, much less lead them in any sense. Ah but don't worry, we still have fallible scholars that can derive rulings through ijtihaad, as well as a persian political system to guide us in the name of banu Hashim, which totally does not defeat the purpose of the imamate doctrine because… reasons.

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dfd610 No.35790

>>35785

The hidden imam is in MY CELLAR and the reason he is hiding is you Sunni b*st*rds keep saying mean things about him. Everytime a sunni doubts the hidden imam he self-harms. Please stop. Ya Imam al Ghayb!

Also for my shia brothers please send rent money or I will evict this cunt from my basement, he late again.

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59fa34 No.35684 [Open thread]

This was one of most eye opening and important documentaries. Numerous civilizations, including Islamic ones have risen and fell, always by same way.

Please see this and comment. The author, known among Muslims as Glubb Pasha and inspired by ibn Khaldun explains how Caliphate, Seljuks, Ottomans and other cultures had same generic cycle from trailblazers to hedonistic degenerates. This has to be somehow balanced in future.

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159c60 No.35751

>>35703

Your opinion is worthless as it's not backed up by anything

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3bb675 No.35752

>>35751

That's why it's called an "opinion". Why do people make these threads if they only want boot licking and praise for their glorious insight?

PROTIP: Very few people in the world will ever actually agree with your opinions. Get used to it.

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159c60 No.35754

>>35752

I want a discussion. You dismiss discussion. You are way to disagreeable to be a good company. You "know" everything already. Hate that kind of people. Have humility and openmindedness to see what Glub actualy says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4-Od8cq5Gk

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beaf61 No.35756

I never heard of this guy Globb.

And im not watching the video.

Have a nice day.

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3bb675 No.35757

>>35754

>You "know" everything already.

When it comes to this topic, yes. I do. I've watched your video and I've actually read his book. That probably makes my opinion more informed than yours, so stop crying. I'm sorry you got a spiritual revelation from something so trite, but that's not my problem.

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5f3d1c No.35676 [Open thread]

According to Nu'man bin Bashir, Muhammad told this story:

"The example of the person abiding by God's order and restrictions in comparison to those who violate them is like the example of those persons who drew lots for their seats in a boat. Some of them got seats in the upper part, and the others in the lower. When the latter needed water, they had to go up to bring water (and that troubled the upper deck passengers), so they said, 'Let us make a hole in our share of the ship (and get water) so that we do not trouble the upper deck passengers.' If the people in the upper part left the lower deck passengers to do what they had suggested; then all the people of the ship would be destroyed, but if they had prevented them, then both parties would be safe."

https://www.islamicity.org/2156/the-...ck-passengers/

I would like to expand on this story and bring it up to date. I will assume a large modern boat with lifeboats, as is standard now. And I will assume that it is in a large lake. To make the story realistic, assume that something went wrong with the plumbing on the lower decks so that fresh water isn't available there.

My guess is that when Muhammad told this story, he imagined all Muslim passengers. In this case, his story makes perfect sense. But what if there are passengers of other religion? As long as these other religions are reasonable, the story still makes sense. But what if some passengers are from unreasonable religions/cultures so that they cannot be reasoned with?

The obvious example is modern culture. Superficially, members of modern culture seem reasonable. But discuss anything of substance and you will discover otherwise. In this story, some members of modern culture on the lower decks began drilling holes in the boat to get water. They considered this to be a progressive innovation. They considered the fact that only those in the upper deck had easy access to water to be a form of discrimination against those in the lower decks, so drilling holes in the boat is a moral good to eliminate discrimination. Sensible pePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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020f7d No.35700

As a Christian, this story is beautiful. Your understanding of postmodernism shows education, but surely some Christians who are not Mennonites are reasonable people, though we may be greater sinners than they are. Will we not find our own lifeboats?

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16e55d No.35708

>>35700

Go to the trini thread please.

and btw this is considerate of us since at /christian/ self-iding as muslim gets instant permaban

thanks

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5fde87 No.35734

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Elder Revert Bro got on the lifeboat.

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d2e3cd No.35741

There's also the fact that being modern also means wanting to keep God as far away as possible that contributes to the "sensible and progressive" people bringing about their own demise. If you're religious, you better either never practice it or have beliefs that perfectly conform to modern values and sensibilities and thereby offend no one.

"When Allah, the One and Only, is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are filled with disgust and horror; but when (gods) other than He are mentioned, behold, they are filled with joy!" - 39:45

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863f4a No.35787

>>35708

let the mods deal with it.

>>35734

Homosexuals and transgenders have begun to notice the natural opposition of their respective viewpoints recently. look at terfs for an example

All the problems and degeneracy being discussed in this thread AKA postmodernism is just the result of liberalism going too far. The western world is in its late stages. As seen in other empires in the past, the fall has been preceded by the rise of liberal agendas. none of this is anything new. Just remember the teachings of the Quran and hold fast to your beliefs and we'll be fine. There's a chance dajjal might come along the way but its not unlikely that he might wait for the next great empire to reach a similar state to the western world for his appearance. All we can do is hold on

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eb3d9a No.35324 [Open thread]

Salaam

I've posted here on and off but I feel my exploration of Islam always comes to a halt. I'm a Catholic who has and is interested in learning about Islam but it just isn't "clicking" for me. I've read the first nine Surahs of the Qu'ran but my experience hasn't invoked any strong emotions or thoughts (I'm reading it in English). On top of that, it's very difficult for me to reconcile the Islamic view of things compared to Judeo-Christian sources/interpretations (Jesus not dying on the cross, role of the Messiah, etc.) and I haven't found compelling reason to assume trust in the Qu'ran over thousands of years of previous development. And (as I'm sure you are all aware) there are various Hadiths out there that narrate very peculiar and disturbing things that Muhammad did. Not all of these Hadiths are authentic but the shear number of said Hadiths is difficult to navigate and understand. What I'm hoping to get from the creation of this thread is tips, advice, testimony on how I should go about in my studies with my current view and where to go next. I wish you all the best.

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2fdb01 No.35501

>>35324

>It doesn't click with me

Beauty is subjective and the Quran was meant to be a warning and a reminder to the people above all.

>Problematic Hadiths

Assume that they've been addressed because 99.99% of the time they already have been. Over 1,400 years they would have been brought up in debates. Search up "Muslims respond"

>Tips, Advice

1. Read Quran in chronological order

2. I'd assume that you've already found sunnah.com (Collection of Most, if not all Hadith) but if you haven't there it is.

3. There are different schools (Madhabs) who all have different views on the Shariah, so what may apply to the Shafii school may not apply to the Maliki school and so on. To illustrate, NY and Texas are both in the US but Texas has death penalty while NY doesn't.

4. Wahabbis, who you probably have heard of, originated in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, who helps spread Wahabbism, is a close ally of the U.S.

This should be helpful enough, so I wish you good luck in understanding our faith and understanding your own as well.

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2fdb01 No.35526

>>35519

The 1% they don't agree on is what's most important for him to be aware of.

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2fdb01 No.35536

>>35531

>Madhabs founded on different perspectives of the Shariah

>What do they disagree on?

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633ba0 No.35541

>>35539

Precisely. Ameen, brother.

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be9efb No.35555

>>35539

Why specifically 40?

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4d7f37 No.35431 [Open thread]

I think 74:30 over it are 19

the number of angels, should convince the people, 74:32 by the moon, the night as it departs, the morning as it shines this is the greatest

> total mention of the word yawm (without any suffix their day, your day, that day)

365 times

> the day (al-yawm), day (yawm), day (with extra aleph)

> gematria: 87, 56 (most common), 57

365 mentions total of day:

22781 gematria : prime factor.

19 x 1199 = 19 x 11 x 109

> 19 x 11

> metonic cycle

the moon and the sun, and the earth (the rotation of the day, from night to day) the time is synchronised, i.e. the number of complete turns of the moon, 254 lunar sidereal months equals 19 years.

> over 19 years, 209 days are added =19 x 11

to the calendar of the lunar, calendar, to synchronise the time between the sun and the moon calendar.

> islamic way

they let the calendar, synchronise over 33 years, lagging 11 days behind, every year.

> opposed to the jewish, 19 year metonic cycle

take the 354'th mention of the word day, the total gematria up to that point is 22103

> take ratio of 22781/ 22103 = 1.0306

that is the exact same ratio of the, lunar year, and solar year

> Quran says a year is based on 12 months

365.2425 (geogian year)/ 12 x 29.5306 days (lunar month) = 1.0306

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01c8a8 No.35442

File: 0bb3ee633ab3418⋯.jpg (9.54 KB,255x191,255:191,FringeFaggot.jpg)

Who let smiley out of his cage?

>>>/fringe/

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4d7f37 No.35478

>>35475

Some people don't understand the relation of 19 with the moon and the alternation of day and night, their number are fixed, for hell fire, for a reason to convince the christians and the jews, it is specifically said in 74:31, and then 74:32 by the moon, night as it disappears, morning as it shines, this is the greatest.

3:190 in the alternation of day and night there are signs for men of knowledge

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4d7f37 No.35479

>>35478

I only ask people to read it carefully, not willy nilly,

when god promises, 74:32, it serves a function,

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4d7f37 No.35494

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>>35487

>It can be said astronomy is one of the higher sciences since it brings dhikr in observation and exploration of the patterns.

That is true, since the moon is inclined by 5 degrees, all in ways of prostration you will never understand,

17:44

seven skies in circulation of praises of the one thing.

55.5 sun and the moon by calculation

15:87 we gave you the seven repeated and the great Quran

we gave you the seven repeated = gematria : 1477

14 letters (7+7)

and the great quran = gematria : 1440

23 letters

The earth turns on its axis with 23 deg inclination, a full solar day is 1440 min. We pray along with where the sun is through out the solar day, as the earth turns around its 23 deg inclined axis, completing, a full 360 deg turn = 1440 min.

Thus 1587 deg = is 588 min in ascension, (a cycle turn, returning from the spot it turned by to, 1587/360 its remained is 588 min in ascension, as 1 deg = 4 min : 1440/ 360 = 4 min / deg )

from the 19 letters above, to the end of "we gave you the seven repeated" 588 words

588 = 4 x (7+7+7)

588 min = 9.8 hours

Last time salah was mention in the Quran, is chapter 98 Called Proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfoJUeyMsOE

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4d7f37 No.35495

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>>35487

Of the devils and angels that pray to our lord.

88 times and 88 times both, in knots

mentioned in the quran in equal terms.

of the whispers, in degree terms, 1 deg = 72 helek= 4 min , of electricity vibrating in knots, 8888, in figure 8's.

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d31db7 No.35168 [Open thread]

Does Alevism count as a part of Islam? Or does it have too many differences?

And what do you think about it?

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994236 No.35169

Let's do a checklist based on my brief reading of their Wiki article:

Is their book the Qur'an? Yes

Do they believe they follow the teachings of the Prophet? Yes

Do they believe Allah is alone in worship? Some do

Do they believe in heaven and hell? No

Do they pray 5 times a day? No

Yeah, this isn't Islam.

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69e533 No.35172

They are Flying Spaghetti Monster tier. Lol, next.

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4af89d No.35250

>cuckime

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e18260 No.25992 [Open thread]

Government> constitutional monarchy primogeniture inheritance. the monarch is head of the armed forces and has the power to propose laws to Parliament and to appoint and depose prime ministers. parliament is made of two houses one the lower based on geographical location the other made of trade guilds and workers unions. the Parliament will approve the collection of taxes and confirm noble titles granted by the king.

legal> the sharia is dived into two parts the first, called core sharia, consisting of direct legal pronouncements and those that have punishments and the moral sharia. ie someone can be stoned for zina but the government wont force u to wear hijab making it a marker of individual piety. this will be enshrined in the Constitution and no parliament make illegal what is in the core sharia but they can modify it(ie using stone bullets rather than actually stones, closed to the public and selected execution squads)

Military> mandatory conscription and military ethos drilled into the whole population. the country will be divided into sectors based on population and distance with a military centre based. here six days a month the men of the sector must gather and practice military stuff. women must train 3 times a month.

Education> based on the apprentice system but military training(think GUP)

thoughts criticisms welcome

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de3d24 No.26001

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>>25999

To much can go wrong when religion and politics it just takes one guy to claim that the khalif has dodgy aqeedah or that his aqeedah is kufur or that his aqeedah kharaji etc. not to mention if khalifat is turned into a popularity contest it degrades the office and can lead to popular but less than qualified person winning. a monarchy on the other hand such things may never come up and if does it less likely to set the state on the path to civil war. in my system Parliament holds most of the actual power so any bad king can be sidelined

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8afd94 No.26091

>>25999

not him but he seems to be one of those "Stoicism" fans and thats probably why he's larping with a latin name

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d9a59b No.34371

Bumpin' up old threads 1

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1072d8 No.34792

>>34772

How was the shura performed? All I know, the sahaba gather around and choose who's to be the next leader. I for some reason cannot see how will this work these days. Wouldn't some members of the shura be bribed or corrupt? In the end it'll return to your typical politics. And even worse when the people do not have any say in who's being elected as their leader. (And I too see the faults of "democracy".) I used to imagine in my head a system that both has a system like the shura where a selected group of people (more than 40 people) will be some sort of a council to judge and sort of interview the candidates (one chosen by people, one chosen by the council, one by lineage (if the country has a king), one is the former leader). And then the people and the council (60/40 ratio) will again choose the leader based on the answers from the interview/debate. But I kept thinking to myself this imaginary system is going to be a bit slow.

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8a7792 No.35157

>>25992

>monarchy

Would prefer autocracy of elected leader. Election should be done by scholars and constitutional assembly.

>Law

Sharia for Muslims. Slightly different laws for non Muslims. They have to pay jizya and they can practice their own customs

>Military

Pretty much what you said

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c714a6 No.34419 [Open thread]

Hello! Let me begin by saying I am not of Islamic faith.

I was curious about your board and after reading through several threads I determined this community to be fairly open and welcoming. So I thought I would try and start a discussion that interests me.

I'd like to disclose some of my background in case anyone wants to know! I was not raised in a very religious family. On the rare occasions we went to Church, it was Christian. As an adolescent I would have identified as an Agnostic/Atheist. The myriad of faiths that existed made me question how one faith could be correct and all the rest wrong.

However, I was quite infatuated with religious literature. I started with the most prominent and moved on from there. This means that, yes, I have read an English version of the Quran! What I eventually found that suited me, however, was an eastern religion called Tao. It reflected beliefs I already had, so it was appealing.

BUT, I am not here to promote other faiths on your board. That would be extremely rude. So now I will get right down to the matter I want to discuss.

When someone of another faith discovers I am not of their flock, usually Christians, they sometimes try very hard to convert me. If it's just an invitation to join them at their Church I see it as friendly and non-offensive. When they flat-out tell me I'm a bad person and going to Hell, then I become irritated. For example, in Tao, the masters teach that we should not seek to spread our belief or convert people. If someone is meant to know Tao, they will find it their-self. We are taught to tolerate and be friendly/accepting to people of other faith.

From what I've personally read in the Quran, there are verses that promote both conversion and tolerance. So I wanted to pose the question to the flesh and blood of today and get your personal views.

Do you believe it is a religious or moral duty to convert those of other faiths or non-believers? Do you condone acceptance or even promote friendships with such people as long as they respect your own FaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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7b83a7 No.34514

>>34419

>Do you believe it is a religious or moral duty to convert those of other faiths or non-believers?

No. Your relationship between yourself and god is between yourself and god. It's not my place to tell you what to believe.

>Do you condone acceptance or even promote friendships with such people as long as they respect your own Faith?

It depends on the individual, everything else about them. I've have Christian and Jewish friends, I've had people I loathe who were Christian or Jewish. Some people who profess to be Muslim aren't exactly model Muslims.

>When they flat-out tell me I'm a bad person and going to Hell,

Some people are like that. Especially old people, some imams who probably shouldn't be imams but nobody stopped them, and what are basically modern primitives who repeat what groups of people tell them. My grandfather liked to tell my aunt that she was going to hell for listening to music. And her taste in music was really tame, old school stuff, before the cultural death of Bollywood. Anyway, do you think people like that know what they're talking about? Supposing that they know what god will do is essentially blaspheming in itself.

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71697a No.34519

>>34514

>Supposing that they know what god will do is essentially blaspheming in itself.

It's not supposing, it's what Allah (SWT) tells us, every kaffir who dies a kaffir goes to hell.

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7b83a7 No.34530

>>34519

I'm not persuaded. That view has people being born Christians and living righteous lives, dying as Christians, only to go to hell just because. I don't find that outcome fair, but incredibly arbitrary.

In the first place, (actual) Jews and Christians aren't kaffir. They're people of the book.

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71697a No.34536

>>34530

>I don't find that outcome fair, but incredibly arbitrary.

Because you don't have the full picture, only Allah guides in the end, nobody can misguide who Allah wants to guide.

>In the first place, (actual) Jews and Christians aren't kaffir. They're people of the book.

Either liar or extremely ignorant of the quran.

(5:72) They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah – Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

(3:85) And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.

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12c4cb No.35156

>>34419

>is it a religious duty to convert people?

Yes but through words and at the government level of a purely Islamic state perhaps through financial objectives((jizya). Conversion or death is only reserved for war criminals where the conversion signifies starting anew.

>can you be friends with them

Yes.

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691593 No.21382 [Open thread]

Why don't Muslims like dogs? Are they mentioned in the Quran as being unclean or sacred or is it a cultural thing?

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4cdf2f No.31958

I got chased down by dogs many times as a kid so they scare me.

Also I don't wanna have to clean my clothes every time they lick me.

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ee7607 No.31959

They are just impure,we don’t have to hate them,prophet didn’t condemn them,the first reply mentions the hadith so that is about it.don’t keep them for petting or something,and also keep them outside of house somewhere

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6ef5b1 No.31965

>>31954

Hadith can be questioned and studied, but not rejected outright.

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f704bf No.32742

Some muslims might not like them, but the thing is that angels curve your house if you got a dog. If you need a dog though, thats permissible.

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c29b09 No.35154

>>31965

Hadith can be rejected if they're found to be incoherent with the teachings of the Prophet or if the chain of narrators is discovered to be subpar. The dog Hadiths don't really contradict anything though.

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df7e87 No.32988 [Open thread]

What does someone do if they've engaged in homosexual acts in the past but regret it and wish to convert?

I read somewhere that the temporal punishment or hadd is unnecessary if someone committed the act before reversion to the religion, but wanted to check here where people have more conservative/strict leanings. I've never committed full sodomy (not sure what the proper muslim terminology is for it) but what would happen to someone who has but wishes to repent/convert.

I also have a friend who's in a similar situation. Its less of a problem for me and more of a problem for them as I'm attracted to women and want a wife but my friend is still currently engaged in homosexual acts / is a trap, yet they also feel drawn to religion and don't know what do about it (specifically Islam too). He's into ideas of the radical traditionalists, like Rene Guenon and whatnot. Any advice for him and what he should do? Thanks.

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ded20e No.33311

>>33294

Homo acts are fornication, but the punishment in the hadith is similar to the punishment of sodom and gomorrah in the quran.

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c37aeb No.34605

You should worry more about the filthy ☻s plot against the muslims than what the homos do in the privacy of their bedrooms. Allah will judge the homos eventually. However, the ☻s seem to never leave Palestine and their manipulations are even more succesful than ever in media.

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ded20e No.34613

>>34605

We can criticize both sodomites and jews. Also palestines problem is not rejecting taghut nationalism. From the start they were a nationalist movement, but gradually the nationalists are being demoralized and replaced by muslims who support khilafah in quds.

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a302ba No.34619

>>34613

Their problem is allying with their occupier's donkeys.

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d9cd77 No.35152

I read a response from a Sheikh on IslamQA who said that even a Muslim who commits sodomy can remain Muslim if he repents. I'm quite sure you can. Only unforgivable sin is shirk.

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f0eee8 No.34927 [Open thread]

This is a real question.

I'm new to Islam and wanted to ask some questions, if that is ok. I like you world views, but what do you think about other religions? Do you hate them? Or do you just ignore them. And what about islamic terrorism. Do you also hate it, or do you even like it? And if groups like ISIS aren't muslim, what are they. Do they do it for politcal reasons? Or is it the US?

If I break the rules with this Thread, please delete it, because I don't want to disrespect you.

Sorry for the bad english.

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67746b No.34930

>>34927

>what do you think about other religions?

Misguided

>Do you hate them?

I don't, but other's probably do. We're not a hivemind.

>islamic terrorism. Do you also hate it

Terrorism in all forms is deplorable no matter what the justification.

>if groups like ISIS aren't muslim, what are they

Mislead, misguided, and wrong.

>Do they do it for politcal reasons?

Well, yeah … derp.

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b97811 No.34937

>>34934

Trying to bait us so they can report us to the FBI.

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c2aa1b No.34951

>>34927

>but what do you think about other religions?

lakum dinukum waliyadin. For you your religion. for me my religion

>Do you hate them?

I don't but I can't say what my other brothers and sisters thinks

>islamic terrorism

They're terrorist that uses islam to justify their action. Like how the church and monarch used christianity as a reason to do the crusades.

>Do they do it for politcal reasons?

Wallahualam brother. Things are so messy. I don't think the actual truth will be brought up anytime soon.

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e75333 No.34977

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>>34927

>I'm new to Islam and wanted to ask some questions, if that is ok. I like you world views, but what do you think about other

>religions? Do you hate them? Or do you just ignore them.

I encourage the good I see in them, and I weep for their misguidance.

>And what about islamic terrorism. Do you also hate it, or do you even like it? And if groups like ISIS aren't muslim, what are they.

They're Muslim, but they're also horrific monsters.

>Do they do it for politcal reasons? Or is it the US?

They do it because the West creates an environment that makes people so deeply lonely and dissatisfied that they have nothing to lose. It's the same reason for non-Muslim terror attacks like the incel attacks and the Unabomber. Pic related.

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496e72 No.34241 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

How much longer until the US outlaws "antisemitism" or denouncing Israel?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/house-democrats-ilhan-omar-antisemitism-1163728

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f50676 No.34859

>>34601

I saw it when I was in a Discord call with other Muslims, they saw the same message. She deleted it

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496e72 No.34861

>>34828

Islam does not forbid abortion.

>>34859

Still no proof.

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ab96d0 No.34879

>>34861

>Islam does not forbid abortion.

It's more accurate to say that it's a point of contention

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36b58d No.34880

>>34861

Better just kill all the babies then? Whats morality?

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496e72 No.34884

>>34879

True, there are different schools of thought on the matter; but only the Maliki school completely forbids abortion.

>>34880

>there is literally only forbid all abortion or kill all babies

Are you serious?

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97e97c No.29385 [Open thread]

Salamu alaykum /islam/

There is a major problem that is gripping our ummah at this time. That is obesity. This is really shameful.

عن أبي هريرة رضي الله عنه، قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «يأكل المسلم في معى واحد، والكافر يأكل في سبعة أمعاء»

Abu Hurairah narrated that Allah’s Messenger said, “A Muslim eats in one intestine while a Kafir eats in seven intestines."

حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْمَلِكِ الْحِمْصِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَتْنِي أُمِّي، عَنْ أُمِّهَا، أَنَّهَا سَمِعَتِ الْمِقْدَامَ بْنَ مَعْدِيكَرِبَ، يَقُولُ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ يَقُولُ ‏ "‏ مَا مَلأَ آدَمِيٌّ وِعَاءً شَرًّا مِنْ بَطْنٍ حَسْبُ الآدَمِيِّ لُقَيْمَاتٌ يُقِمْنَ صُلْبَهُ فَإِنْ غَلَبَتِ الآدَمِيَّ نَفْسُهُ فَثُلُثٌ لِلطَّعَامِ وَثُلُثٌ لِلشَّرَابِ وَثُلُثٌ لِلنَّفَسِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

Miqdam bin Madikarib said: “I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: ‘A human being fills no worse vessel than his stomach. It is sufficient for a human being to eat a few mouthfuls to keep his spine straight. But if he must (fill it), then one third of food, one third for drink and one third for air.’”

Post general sunnah diet info and weight loss/exercise inspiration

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d6a473 No.29488

>>29477 (checked)

Is substituting milk with almond milk better? Asking for a friend.

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ad984a No.29489

>>29477

As long as you're not claiming meat/animal products to be haram, you can be as vegetarian as you want to be. Islam doesn't require you to eat meat.

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ad984a No.29490

>>29488

It'a a matter of preference. I like rice milk better than I do almond, but either is fine.

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15934c No.29570

>>29488

Yeah. I don't like plant 'milks' though, my diet is basically:

>bread

either whole wheat or rye or sourdough or baguettes (bread actually has a decent amount of protein in it)

>fruit:

pitted deglet noor dates (really affordable actually), blueberries (antioxidants), strawberries

>if you need more protein

black beans, refried beans (lard-free variety obviously), green peas, potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams

>coffee (and lots of it…)

>studies show that more coffee is correlated with decreased mortality, even many cups of it per day.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1112010

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/882638

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2017/08/27/drinking-coffee-may-lower-risk-of-death-in-healthy-people-according-to-new-study/#24f2c16b4f82

All that being said however I still get lamb/veal/mutton whenever I'm at a nice restaurant. Don't go insane ya know.

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4d7fd4 No.34854

>>29385

MEAT IS GOOD

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