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12b8eb No.43723 [Open thread]

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e0a378 No.43737

I swear the Turkish education system brainwashes the children. Not just for the Armenian "accident", but for Kemalism, too.

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3ffb2a No.43787

When will he recognize muslim genocide

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41da53 No.43817

>>43787

Which one?

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3ffb2a No.43828

>>43817

He said what china is doing to Uyghurs is just cultural difference, also USA should recognize killing 5 million muslims.

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845864 No.43833

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f8cb88 No.43635 [Open thread]

Salaam,

Im a male in my mid twenties living in the west and never had any relationship with women whatsoever in my life, mostly because how degenerate the west is. My dad is pushing me to get married but i want to live in a Muslim land and get married and have children there grow up with Islamic values. I cant move back to my ethnic homeland because its a war zone and i dont know any Muslim country I can get citizenship and find job/place to live. I know from the classical scholars its haram to live in darul harb and darul kufr and you have to make hijra to muslim lands. On top of that, i dont want to have children if i know they will become degenerates/murtads/gays/etc.. I have a low paying job too so i dont know what to do, any advice?

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09282e No.43637

>>43635

You can raise children with Islamic values in the west.

>if i know they will become degenerates/murtads/gays/etc

You have no way of knowing the future. Man proposes, God disposes.

>any advice?

If it's that important to you, pick a country you want to live in and then look up how to immigrate to it. Then buy a plane ticket and go.

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f8cb88 No.43648

>>43637

>You can raise children with Islamic values in the west.

Yes but the chances of them being corrupted by globohomo is very high especially if i have a daughter.

>If it's that important to you, pick a country you want to live in and then look up how to immigrate to it. Then buy a plane ticket and go.

Any suggested country where its easy to get citizenship and job?

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2a1290 No.43649

>>43648

>the chances of them being corrupted by globohomo is

… 100% entirely up to YOU. There is no cheat code for being a father.

>where its easy

You're going to have to define "easy". There are no countries on the planet that will just open the gate and say, "Yeah, come on in! Here's a job and a woman! Welcome!" You're going to have to put in some effort. Just "being Muslim" isn't enough. You need to do the research and decide where you want to live.

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d4ff6a No.43830

>>43635

>i want to live in a Muslim land and get married and have children there grow up with Islamic values.

It's very easy to get married in South East Asia, pick a muslim majority country, or you could consider Afghanistan I guess, when the americans leave there will probably be an Islamic state.

For money you could either work remotely or save and start a business.

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271fb0 No.43798 [Open thread]

What is this freakish scholarly obsession with defecation?

It's in the footnotes to the Saudi Quran as well, when you get to the part in Baqarah about purified spouses.

My mind: Oh, it means purified of all impurities

Scholar mind: Poo poo pee pee

Quran: Specifically refers to food, needed for life by humans

Scholars: Oh they meant 🤬 let's go on about that

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cd94ef No.43816

>>43815

It's pretty common knowledge that if you eat, you poop. There's really no way to avoid it. The purpose of a footnote is for expansion/clarification of what the text is saying. That's really all the footnote is doing: clarifying. I can also assure you that 2 examples does not constitute obsession.

You should read Qur'an more.

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f7ef7e No.43818

>>43815

Are you genuinely puzzled or did you grab this garbage off of JihadWatch and came to /islam/ thinking it was a "make fun of lol so stupid Muslim" board? Anyone who has been through a high school freshman level English class knows the difference between Text/Footnote and Canon/Commentary.

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271fb0 No.43823

>>43818

No m8 I take religion seriously and I was curious about why scholars were taking it in this direction.

It reads to me like people here are more concerned with protecting Sheiks than understanding the word of god.

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23bfe5 No.43824

>>43823

>I was curious about why scholars

Which scholars? There have been literally 10s of thousands of scholars throughout history and thousands of Islamic scholars alive today. You're citing 2 examples and claiming it's somehow ubiquitous.

>people here are more concerned with protecting Sheiks

What people? What Sheiks? Who is protecting what?

You come in here with a single tree and balk when the forest is pointed out to you. You even talk about Saudi stuff without knowing that Arabs are less than 15% of the world's Muslims. There are more White Muslims in the world than there are Arab Muslims. Think about that for a minute. Qur'an was revealed to an Arab in Arabic lands in the language the Messenger understood, but that doesn't mean it's an Arab religion.

It becomes very suspect when someone shows up with minutia and concern trolls that it's prevalent. We're a Muslim board. Created by a Muslim, built for Muslims. When you come in with a question that sounds like it's straight out of /pol/ or JihadWatch, surely you can understand if we make fun of it a little.

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ad716c No.43827

Because it's a clean way of saying God can't defecate, the quran is so eloquent even the implications are clean. So because of that, it will wake up christians to see that being human does not befit the majesty of God.

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703736 No.43724 [Open thread]

Assalamu alaykum. I'm recent revert from Paganism and I'm suffering from HOCD. These intrusive thoughts are killing me and so are the compulsions.

I've read online that these are the devil's whispers.

What can I do? How can I pray to get rid of these thoughts, obsessions and compulsions?

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235c93 No.43729

>>43726

The Islamic tip is to seek help from a mental healthcare professional. Muslims literally created the world's first mental healthcare facility in Baghdad in 805. We understand mental health is as important as physical health and have been treating the mentally ill with kindness and dignity for 1200 years.

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faefa7 No.43730

OP I recommend you make dua to Allah to alleviate your burden and try your best to ignore the thoughts. There are numerous ahadith about the Prophet, peace be upon him, advising his followers to ignore the thoughts & take it easy. In the next couple days I'll try and find you some Islamic videos/resources that pertain to this topic, InshaAllah.

I also recommend spending time around other muslims, as being around the community has numerous benefits. Do you regularly attend the masjid for prayers?

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703736 No.43731

>>43730

>Do you regularly attend the masjid for prayers?

I do not, however I will start going soon

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281649 No.43782

>>43724

Waswas subdues your Will. The problem is your Iman

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f15281 No.43788

ayat ul kursi

surah al falaq

surah al nas

surah ikhlas

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798d55 No.43773 [Open thread]

I've been struggling really hard this Ramadan to fast and perform good deeds but most of it was in vain and I keep getting off the right path.

The day before Ramadan I was shocked to hear about it and had masturbated to p9rn earlier that day after abstaining for 2 weeks because I felt lonely. I read some Quran the first few days but failed to make it a habit. I also missed a day of fasting because I couldn't resist the urges to masturbate. This week was going well until yesterday and today because I woke up too late for suhr, ended up eating compulsively right away not realizing that fajr had already passed by meaning I broke my fast.

Please give me advice and make du'a for me so that I will be able to stay on track for the remaining days of the month.

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2cb3d7 No.43774

>>43773

No more masturbation threads. There are 12 in the damn catalog. Use an existing one if you want to discuss it.

I will make dua for you, but there are too many of these.

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39ffa3 No.42788 [Open thread]

Personally as a turkish, kemalism till I die (pic related Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)

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22eeb2 No.43464

>>43462

Islam is globalist …

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1a1321 No.43514

>>42788

None of what you say can beat the hatred that exists upon polytheists

Polytheism should be the first in your hate list

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39ffa3 No.43674

>>43514

every -ism is tries to create an alternative to islam

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a4153c No.43676

>>43462

Liberalism is modern-day colonialism. It's literally just the same bunch of rich, white, culturally-christian busybodies trying to impose their way of thinking on the entire world.

Then:

>The whole world will be [Christian/feudalist/monarchist/etc.], convert or die! Also, better learn English if you're going to live on OUR planet, lol

Now:

>The whole world will be [Secular/capitalist/democratic/etc.], convert or die! Also, better learn English if you're going to live on OUR planet, lol

It's LITERALLY the same thing. Literally zero difference between these two things.

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34ad1c No.43745

>>42788

I am not going to lie, all the so called "extremist" ideologies summon my disgust response.

Totalitarianism, whether it be fascism, bolshevism, etc, involve putting the state above God, and are therefore shirk.

Anarchism is kufr, as it opposes religious hierarchy.

Right wing Libertarians, especially the 1776 people, are idiots, plain and simple.

All Western ideologies would be redundant in a properly Islamic country, especially a caliphate.

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cd2061 No.43714 [Open thread]

Hey guys, /icup/ here with a question on how we're going to handle the next iteration of the Infinity Cup ( https://anon.cafe/icup/ ) We're trying to poll whether certain boards are interested in playing in the cup, or if there's some specific team that you'd like to see play. If you want to, please answer or add your own answer to the poll in https://poal.me/6x3j1u

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692bc8 No.43540 [Open thread]

One thing that isn't clear to me is the nature of the believer's paradise in Islam. Many sources I've seen promise material pleasures like fine wine, virgins and large feasts.

Why would life in heaven be anything like it is on earth? Sexual pleasure seemed particularly suspect to me. As far as I know new souls are created on earth, so there is no procreation in heaven and thus no need for the sex instinct.

The whole idea seems to clash hard with Islam's acetic principles and with much of doctrine which characterizes carnal desires as inherently sinful and symptomatic of earthly existence. Would it not be more sensible for those desires to be simply removed upon entry, like mental and physical illness?

Perhaps this will be more clear with further study on my part. Where should I go to learn more about the afterlife?

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0fcc18 No.43664

>>43553

what the heck else do you do

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4e179b No.43665

>>43664

You see her as a human being with thoughts and feelings and needs. You see her as your equal, you degenerate.

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cf93c0 No.43675

>>43540

Carnal desire is sinful just like hunger is sinful, and it isn't symptomatic of earthly existence- Adam was given Eve in paradise.

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c64081 No.43697

>>43675

Read about Jannah

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4e179b No.43702

>>43697

Nobody goes to hell for thoughts/desires.

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4e4df8 No.43666 [Open thread]

i just recently readed that alawites allow social drink and now i am interested in converting to islam, but now i have a few questions

1. is that true?

2. do you have to get a circumcision when converting?

3. are things like tarot and astrology, even when you see it as a hobby and not real, condemned?

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4e4df8 No.43667

4. does alawites allow polygyny?

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779ae4 No.43668

>>43666

>alawites allow social drink

This is true, but it is against Islam.

>circumcision

It's strongly encouraged, but isn't required.

>tarot/astrology

Forbidden

>>43667

Yes, as do all Muslims, but it is strongly discouraged unless you are capable of taking care of each wife equally and no orgies. One wife at a time.

That said, the majority of Muslims don't really recognize Alawites as practicing Islam. They're seen as misguided and bringers of innovation to Islam, so you might have a tough time in a non-Alawite mosque. You might also have a tough time converting. They see themselves as an ethnoreligious group and don't really trust or welcome non-Syrians.

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4e4df8 No.43671

>>43668

>>tarot/astrology

>Forbidden

on which level? how condemned is it?

>and no orgies. One wife at a time.

you mean have sex one at the time and no threesomes or something like that?

>You might also have a tough time converting. >They see themselves as an ethnoreligious group and don't really trust or welcome non-Syrians.

i didnt knew that, i hope that they accept me

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35b143 No.43672

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6d3a33 No.41557 [Open thread]

I will not write about the surrah of this subject in their totality because i will let the rest be your understading (and what is totality for knowledge) it should be common knowledge that the lines can't be read in a judicial/literal/unambiguous way, so we can't escape our on ingenuity about understading and so i'm ingenuous too. But the quran makes reference about a recompense for the companions of the right who them will receive as a recompense:

https://quran.com/56/22?translations=20

https://quran.com/56/35?translations=20

Anime is not HARAM, ISLAM is anime and anime should be islam. The companions of the right are all anime watchers and for them are waifus made in a "new creation" of women it "large beautiful eyes" and of equal age if you read in the totality.

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486cb3 No.42453

Gtfo you fuarking murtadd. and shut your mouth about whats halal and haram .

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63613a No.42456

>>42453

>only my cult can determine what is halal or haram

Piss off, wahhabi

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60bba0 No.42527

can you send quran ayahs where it says how a man should behave and that homosexulality is forbidden >>41638

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91b38b No.43584

>>41557

https://quran.com/69/19 During judgment day each person will be given a book of deeds. In it is a record of the good and the bad decisions they have made. Muslims will be given their record in their right hand that's why they will be called people of the right or companions of the right. For kuffar it will be the opposite hence they are called people of the left.

Islam is the only religion that Allah accepts. Anime is meaningless trash and it involves paganism and degeneracy, it's haram. Most anime watchers are kuffar.

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3c6828 No.43587

>>43584

>bumps an old thread

>declares something haram

>brings no proof

Begone LARPer.

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a1267e No.43583 [Open thread]

We got a brief shout out in the new HBO documentary about 8chan and Q. One of the only boards actually named!

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adc656 No.43561 [Open thread]

What does /islam/ think about Mustafa Kemal? I get that he is an irreligious laicist, but I would rather prefer being ruled by his cult of personality than a Greek-Orthodox occupation.

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eefb1b No.43569

>>43561

You'd prefer to be ruled by a corpse?

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a8d58b No.43578

If Greeks could try to remove Sharia, Turks could be the best muslim by far

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113d8c No.43562 [Open thread]

Alright, what is the most grammatically literal and lexically literal translation of the Quran?

I don't need two paragraphs of interjections placed inside the text by the House of Saud """""""""'''explaining"""""""" an ʾāyat in a way that is neither intuitive nor sourced. I also don't need someone trying to massage the Arabic into English grammar or replacing Arabic words that have no English equivalent with an English word.

If "mercy" in Arabic means "taking care of someone completely, like a baby being taken care of totally by a mother in its womb", please bring on the asterisks or square brackets or just untranslated Arabic that I can look up.

If r-raḥmāni r-raḥīmi means "the merciful, the compassionate", that's what I want to read. Not "the most merciful, the most compassionate". An explanation of the choice of particular words for translation is great.

If there are any translations that meet the above criteria and mention relevant aHadith and the divergent ways an ayat has been interpreted (and by whom), that would be even better.

Please and thank you.

For full transparency I am reading about Islam and have not converted. I really am grateful for anyone who takes the time to help me.

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c0e894 No.43563

>>43562

There isn't one. Qur'an cannot be translated, merely interpreted.

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113d8c No.43564

>>43563

I said "most literal", not "literal". I'm not looking for perfection. I'm looking for best.

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8a89fa No.43568

>>43564

"Best" is subjective. Personally, I use 3 different English translations as reference because there is no one that gets it quite accurate. It is better to learn Arabic.

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1a49c0 No.31376 [Open thread]

i live in a country with a corrupt socialist and paganist goverment with a fake opposition and a cuked population i had study a lot how the islam put down dictatorships like at afghanistan iran libya etc but the people here is really religious but in chistian stuffs the convertions to islam is open the arab community accept new converts i just want know if is possible use the islam like a way to get freedom and set up a fair society

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c2a816 No.43005

>>43001

>>43000

Just because two opposing sides in a war belong to two different religions (or different branches of a religion) does not mean that the fight is necessarily fueled by religion. Of course there will be bad apples that fight for all the wrong reasons, but they do not represent the whole, just the same way you have similar cases in every war on every side.

Does this justify death and discrimination? No, not at all, but let's not make it religious and keep it in the realm of politics.

>Countless crimes against Sunnis in the process

The Iraq-Iran war was pretty nasty too, especially for shias. Are we going to ignore that?

Or how shias are being discriminated against around the world?

I'm sure we could go on forever if we were both going to list the discrimination and murders of shias and sunnis, but I think we can both agree that none of it should have happened in the first place, and those that actively hurt their fellow brothers have got Islam all wrong.

This isn't a shia v. sunni thing, it's very much a small part of a much bigger problem that has nothing to do with who thinks which caliph should have been first. I pray that you see that.

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c2a816 No.43039

>>43018

Either you're bait, or you've gone absolutely blind.

Either way, I'll pray you find peace one day brother.

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8a725f No.43056

>>42992

Tehran has Sunni mosques. There are churches and synagogues in Iran for Christian and Jews to worship in. Do you seriously think Iran wouldn't cater for the needs of its second largest and theologically closest religious group while it caters for all its other minorities.

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/109045/Sunnis-running-9-mosques-in-Tehran

As for the prayer room not mosque argument, there is nothing that disqualifies these places of worship from being a Mosque. Where I live (i don't live in Iran), the only Shia mosque in the area is just a privately owned, normal building converted to a prayer room, this doesn't make it any worse then a mosque with grand architecture. In other cities of Iran with higher percentages of Sunnis you can find plenty of large and ornate Sunni mosques. And Sunnis are more then welcome to pray in any Shia Mosque anywhere in Iran. When Iran denies the building of a Sunni Mosque or closes a Sunni Mosque, this is only because these particular mosques are preaching extremism and disrespecting Shais, Sunni Mosques that do not spread takfiri ideology are allowed to operate freely.

The problem arises when so called Sunnis start spreading extremist wahabi ideology that takfirs and insults Shi'ites. Such mosques, organizations, and individuals are countered by the government, as you would expect considering Iran is a Shia majority country. Common sense would dictate that you shouldn't insult and slander the religious majority of the country you live in. These individuals are of course in the minority, and the majority of Sunnis in Iran are not takfiris and there are no government policies against them.

I don't deny that some degree of discrimination against Sunnis is present in Iran, but this is the result of the actions of a few individuals not government policy or orthodox Shia doctrine. The Iranian authorities make due effort to counter anti-sunni sentiment, such as this Fatwa from Khamenei: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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87cbb2 No.43063

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2639eb No.43556

Based

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79a38b No.43123 [Open thread]

…I love to eat pork so much.

I can't imagine a World without pork, rabbits.

Why don't you let people eat whatever they want?

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812aa5 No.43484

>>43483

It certainly takes a lot less energy to grab and eat some grasshoppers, so it's efficient; but if you've got a household to feed, it's best to go for the larger, fatty pig that also has skin you can use for clothing or shelter. The primitive dude who first chose to eat pigs probably saw protein + a coat.

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19cce6 No.43485

>>43484

Okay but you are what you eat…

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c8be9d No.43486

>>43485

True … I am a dick.

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8512ef No.43537

>>43129

>>43129

>A person can convert to Islam, recognize that eating pork is a sin, and continue to eat pork while doing all of the other Islamic requirements. It is possible. As long as you recognize the fact that you are sinning, it is acceptable. If you say that it is okay for you to eat pork, it is not acceptable. But you really should stop eating pork if you are going to convert to Islam.

Islam makes 0 sense. All of a sudden it is ok to sin? Never heard god mention that in the torah.. Same god? lol

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7e7fd6 No.43539

>>43537

>All of a sudden it is ok to sin?

It's not ok, but it is inevitable. You can no more avoid sin then you can walk between the drops of rain. You just have to learn to recognize when you sin and ask forgiveness and try to not sin again. Even Torah recognized different levels of sin and the impossibility of avoiding it and the importance of repentance.

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