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a21f4d No.34784 [Open thread]

Hello, everyone. I'm an American who has been studying abroad these past few months, and recently I decided to convert to Islam. While I am excited to be starting down a serious and clean path to God, I cannot help but be concerned about what I'll have to deal with upon returning to my country. Although I don't plan to go around in a taqiyah and beard, the sensationalist media makes it seem like if you're a Muslim in the West, you're either going to get assaulted on the street or shot at the mosque, so I'd like to hear about the experiences of other western Muslims. Rationally I know that I don't need to fear for my life, but I can't help but worry that I'm going to find myself getting a lot better at fighting in the future.

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c7acd4 No.34785

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>>34784

I've been a Muslim since 2004 and I'm American. I do generally wear a simple turban like pic related and I have a full beard. I've never once even been called a harsh name. Probably helps that I'm white, but I don't know.

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be29f3 No.34788

I emigrated to the US right before 9/11 and have never had any issues whatsoever. I think most Americans at the time and up to now believe that “the terrorists” look like indians/sikhs. They generally don’t know what Muslims are supposed to look like

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e7e16b No.34809

>>34786

Black Muslims are actually the majority in the west and there are a lot and no im not just talkiing about the nation of islam Im based in the california and i can say with 100% certainty that MANY (not most just MANY) of the white AND black muslims blend right in with the general Muslim population in general it is only when they start talking in colloqial mannerisms and convo that their Westernisms are revealed…

fyi I run a couple of Muslim program houses and most of the brothers coming around us are reverts and the only ones who have trouble fitting in are those still caught in jahilliya akh

the line between black white and arab gets real blurred often very often i can give you all many many examples from my immediate cirlce and from islamic history ya ikhwan

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e7e16b No.34810

>>34788

that part

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513721 No.34833

File: da338d984ae7cf0⋯.png (75.57 KB,1434x317,1434:317,27,19.PNG)

Thank you for the responses, everyone! I'm happy to hear that the average American Muslim's biggest daily concern can just be finding a place to pray.

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be73f8 No.34679 [Open thread]

I am going to be completely honest. After reading all of those comments and citations, I feel hopeless, overwhelmed spiritually- drained, and depressed. As the doubts and contemplations have accelerated rapidly over the past 3 years, I feel like almost giving up.

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b8d4d4 No.34720

>>34718

who else but staunch Christian adherents

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bc51fe No.34721

>>34720

Listening to Christians talk about Qur'an makes about as much sense as listening to a toddler talk about physics.

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8ec48a No.34722

>>34720

>>34715

Post sources pls

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f3e48f No.34727

OP, keep in mind that the depth of religion allows for more time spent practicing and studying. Good readers are re-readers. It would be the same if you were studying any other subject you wanted to become fluent in. Ive felt the same way before though. I understand this feeling, the only way to solve it is to perservere and not let your whims ruin you.

>>34720

Well, Christians (especially protestants and american catholics) are extremely ignorant of their own religion, so don't expect them to know anything about Islam. They do not even know the difference between madhabs.

>christians

The great majority do not speak latin, greek, hebrew, church slavonic, or any other ecclesiastical tongue.

>muslims

Most know some Arabic, enough to pray in, and make an attempt to become fluent. An emphasis is placed on learning classical Arabic / fusha / other useful dialects depending on area of scholarship.

>christians

Cannot agree with each other on very basic tenets of their religion. I talked to a protestant christian the other day and he called me a jew for suggesting that some christians do in fact reject the trinity, since apparently he only considered Mushrikeens to be christians.

>muslims

Agree that God is one.

>christians

Little knowledge about Jesus

>muslims

Know the true message of Prophet Isa

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338efa No.34830

>>34679

I have gone through the same experience. Over these three years, I am led to believe that you at least once tried seeing our rebuttals of their statements? In the case that you have not, I recommend reddit.com/r/MuslimsRespond/ (yea ik its reddit). I also recommend for you to read up on Baudrillard and how the words you have seen fabricate an image "realer" than your own experiences.

(for if you keep thinking about 'taqiyya')

https://quran.com/4/145

"Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire - and never will you find for them a helper -"

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723000 No.32179 [Open thread]

redpill me on this guy

my mate just won't stop talking about him, and how he is the greatest

thoughts?

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4dda41 No.34797

British intelligence asset.

Ikhwan is a British intelligence front.

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d3ebb0 No.34803

>>34800

>>33571

>al-Sisi abolished Islamic laws in Egypt

which ones?

>he killed people

not kufr in of itself and context needed

>destroys their homes and mosques

context needed

>builds and repairs churches with muslim funds.

source?

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d3ebb0 No.34807

>>34805

>"The two sites had been occupied by supporters of ousted President Mohamed Morsi"

well by your reasoning he and his supporters should be apostates so what's your beef with al-Sisi here?

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d3ebb0 No.34812

>>34808

Pathetic rafidhi troll who can't even get his story straight.

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14ace5 No.34813

Freemason.

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e1d6e4 No.33414 [Open thread]

Salam everyone, I wanted to ask if anyone knows good websites for islamic charity and zakat? The recent disasters that befell our Indonesian brothers and sisters made me want to help them. They had several deadly and destructive earthquake/tsunamis this year. Our responsibility as muslims is to help them as fast as possible since there is search and rescue teams looking for trapped victims. I know the website https://secure.irusa.org/ of islamic relief USA, but I'm wondering if there are other trusted websites some of you brothers use.

Surah Al-Munafiqun [63:10]

And spend [in the way of Allah] from what We have provided you before death approaches one of you and he says, "My Lord, if only You would delay me for a brief term so I would give charity and be among the righteous."

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889b05 No.33491

>>33488

Well, then offer a solution. If you raise a complaint without offering a solution, then all you're doing is whining.

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90b0e3 No.33495

>>33491

the solution is you give charity, you give to the poor, you give to causes you can verify in real life in various ways, without giving to businesses that call themselves charities and take your money and dispense it in ways you can't verify.

This isn't complicated.

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889b05 No.33515

>>33495

And are there any charities that fit your criteria? Do you have a problem with Muslim Aid?

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e1d6e4 No.33550

>>33495

>>33495

Give me an alternative I'm running out of time here!!

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18d857 No.34781

>>34771

Waiting on what? Someone to tell you that the guy saying that “you shouldn’t give to charities because they are all scams” is full of sh*t? If there aren’t any poor Muslims around you that you can directly give charity to, your only option is to give to a charity, like the ones >>33444 and >>33481. If some of the people running the charity are distributing it irresponsibly, that is on them. Not you.

Not paying your zakat by giving charity is not an option.

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466365 No.26538 [Open thread]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

Dear brothers and sisters.

I am on purematrimony.com the only matrimonial site which does not show pictures by default and where there is a team to monitor messages as well as the option for wali to be present in the chat.

I live in the Netherlands and found a girl in India that had a great description:

>She only been practicing 1.5 years but she states to strive with improving herself and her deen.

> She states to have decided to take the steps to prevent degeneracy to enter the soul. She does not watch tv or music and is not fond of make up.

>She states loving to read quran and gain knowledge in her free time.

>She has a university bachelors but is willing to give it up her career and study Islamic Studies.

>Also states not to expect a lavish lifestyle but a home to live peacefully

>She is realistic and realises that sacrifices and patience are needed as she states "that are going to be times when things go rough in the relationship but with the help of Allah swt we shall both glue the cracks.

So I am very pleased initially by these descriptions.

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693fb9 No.34719

Guys what's the best resource to find a wife? My mosque is full of kids and 12 year olds, it's illegal to marry that young and I can't wait until they become legal. And the women that contact the imam are mostly too old for me and divorced. I don't chat young girls my age because they don't practice islam and I don't wanna fall into zina. I don't consider marrying a kaffir either, way too much effort to convert them. Where can I find a woman in her 20s that is upon the right aqeedah and is not a career woman nor a feminist? What are the best dating websites or places to find muslimas?

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0c2889 No.34723

>>34719

If you can't find a wife through your mosque or local community, find a good woman of the book and convert her.

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693fb9 No.34724

>>34723

They are all atheists and non virgin.

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0c2889 No.34725

>>34724

That's a rather defeatist attitude. Keep looking.

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66aa52 No.34733

>>34719

>I can't wait until they become legal

yikes

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dd78ca No.25906 [Open thread]

>One who withdraws his band from obedience (to the Amir) will find no argument (in his defence) when he stands before Allah on the Day of Judgment, and one who dies without having bound himself by an oath of allegiance (to an Amir) will die the death of one belonging to the days of Jahillyya.

What did Muhammad mean by this? There is no 1 khalifah so I can't give bayah. What do I do?

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f379c7 No.34469

>>34461

>Have you not read the authentic hadith that specifically prohibits attacking innocents during war?

Post them, I’ll post my rebuttal. Killing of women and children of the kuffar is indeed forbidden, IF THEY ARE THE PRIMARY TARGET. this was actually the major cause of the rift between dawla and shekau’s Boko haram.

Saheeh Muslim

Book 019, Hadith Number 4321.

It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.

Saheeh Bukhari

Volumn 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 256.

Narated By As-Sab bin Jaththama : The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."

I’m not going to get into the political rabbit hole with you of blaming dawla and AQ on omniscient kuffar. The Russians blame USA, Iran blames Israel, SDF blames turkey, Saudi blames Qatar, Qatar blames Saudi. Do the math, dawla is fully independent and the real deal, as was osama’s AQ before zawahiri was taken hostage by an ISI controlled wing of the Taliban

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0239a6 No.34476

>>34469

>>34469

>before zawahiri was taken hostage by an ISI controlled wing of the Taliban

I'd like to know more about that if you can. I always suspected taliban since they are keen on dealing with tawaghit pakistan, qatar, saudi, uae and russia. I mean how the hell can you call yourself islamic and meet with putin??

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ff345d No.34481

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>>25907

Those Saudi Soldiers? I thought they used G3 rifles infantry weapons.

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f2cf8e No.34674

>>34476

Read Seymour Hersh's extended article / ebook "The Killing of Osama bin Laden"

its 4 chapters total, 1 on osama, 3 on syria turkey and pakistan.

Osama was captured in 2005/6

some of Zawahiri's family is kept in Iran

Zawahiri met with Russian agents when he was detained in the Caucausus. The official story says they had no Arabic speakers in the Russian forces to interrogate him but this is a clear lie.

Julani vetoed going against ETILAF

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0239a6 No.34675

>>34674

Is qa'ida al-jihad comprised fully? Or are some affiliates like the yemen less infiltrated?

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650ed4 No.33576 [Open thread]

Are chess and islam compatible? It takes a ton of practice and dedication to get good, is that idolatry? I have muslim friends who will not play me because the pieces include bishops and the king is often shown with a crucifix on his crown and other such silly reasons. I recently got back into the game and then read an article from 2016 and it made me wonder. Why is there tension? and why do europeans dominate this sport?

>When the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s grand mufti — Sheikh Abdelaziz Al-Sheikh — condemned chess recently as the “work of Satan” and a “waste of time and money,” it reignited a debate that has been part of the Islamic world for more than a millennium.

How do we fix this?

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5af2b6 No.34521

>>34515

I have met many Saudis who disavow their government. Don't assume that all Saudis follow the King.

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f7bb37 No.34529

>>34518

It's quicker than writing:

>the king, his ministers, the people who serve the ministers, the military, and the politically inactive taxpayer

>>34521

>I have met many Saudis who disavow their government.

It doesn't matter what they say, what they do matters. If they pay taxes in Saudi Arabia, they're party to the maintenance of the monarchy, and that's true whether they hate it or not. There is no king without subjects.

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d339ab No.34535

>>34529

>If they pay taxes in Saudi Arabia, they're party to the maintenance of the monarchy, and that's true whether they hate it or not.

I can say that for those living in the west as well they pay taxes to the military industrial complex and even vote for them.

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3764fe No.34607

>getting this mad at a board game

Some of you really aren't doing yourself any favors.

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d339ab No.34612

>>34607

Not mad, just rigorous.

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dfc890 No.33026 [Open thread]

What's the Islamic view on lab grown meat? is it halal? since Islam is all about making things painless for the slaughtered cattle, wouldn't such an initiative be seen as a good thing by Muslims as it doesn't even hurt the animal?

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577e8f No.33054

>>33053

What?

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09df3f No.33058

>>33053

O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued. 22:73

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6e2a1f No.33085

>>33026

The permissibilty of synthetic (meat) can be considered just like any other atrificial products.

And halal slaughter isn't only for one specific reason or another.

Synthetic meat might have similar texture and nutrients, but it won't be a proper substitute. Let them roll it out and see the dominos fall years/decades later.

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19c2ac No.34546

bruh just eat regular animals

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2de375 No.41670

test

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9867db No.34497 [Open thread]

Forgive me for my self-promotion inshallah…

https://soundcloud.com/hoodlum2moozlum

I just uploaded 3 hours of shahada stories and revert stories to Soundcloud for the soul purpose of having more inspiring material to listen to (rather than music) when not studying quran hadith or arabiya

there are some real inspiring stories and had Soundcloud not set a limit on how much I can upload I would have continued uploading but it looks like I will be purchasing a pro plan for the sake of uploading more inspiring material…

anyways forgive me for my self promo but however if any reverts wish to do a hoodlum 2 moozlum story email the audio and pic or video to hoodlum2moozlumbackup@gmail.com

may allah increase us all in knowledge inshallah and may the ummah find some good in my contributitons and dawah aameen aameen salaamualaykom wa rahmatullah wa barakaatu

example of a hoodlum 2 moozlum story inshalla

https://soundcloud.com/hoodlum2moozlum/habibullahabdusshaheedmujahid

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9867db No.34499

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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9867db No.34500

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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9867db No.34501

please follow and like if you have a soundcloud and lets flood the main lains of media with deen material inshallah

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79ef14 No.34511

MashaAllah akhi may Allah guide you and protect you and help you in your misson. Allahuma ameen.

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79ef14 No.34542

This is a very beautiful project.

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49ecd1 No.21684 [Open thread]

I want to read the Qu'ran but know only English what translation do you recommend and why?

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0a139e No.24244

>>21684

I'm learning Spanish, anyone know a Spanish translation? I just want to use it as a study guide.

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cb31dc No.34317

bump

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e07537 No.34320

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93f0af No.34534

>>21724

41:44 says language is irrelevant.

>>23425

>which is pretty hard to come by.

Not if you're Saudi royalty.

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8bed24 No.34541

>>34534

>41:44 says language is irrelevant.

41:44 And if We had made it a foreign (i.e., in a language other than Arabic) Qur'an, they would indeed have said, "Had its ayat (Verses, signs) been expounded? A foreign (tongue) and an Arab (Messenger)?" Say, " To the ones who have believed it is a guidance and a cure; and the ones who do not believe, in their ears is an obstruction, and for them it is a blindness; those are called out from a place far (away)."

huh? where did it claim that?

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99ac0c No.34457 [Open thread]

What are your overall thoughts on this movement? Are they doing great in reminding Muslims on the importance of self-preservation or a sect that has it's set of deviance outside of the Qur'an and Sunnah?

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ab052a No.34496

>>34457

>What are your overall thoughts on this movement?

Love them. Most of them are soft spoken, paused their life for a while just to go da'wah.

>Are they doing great in reminding Muslims on the importance of self-preservation

Whatever the result might be, yes. Yes they are. The movement is not showing sign of diminishing nor expanding but they kept true to their intention. Reminding muslims.

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55b1a0 No.34502

Alot of Muslims in India were borderline mushriks. Imitating ways of their hindu neighbours. Grave worshipping, bidat festivals etc. Tablighi Jamaat has done a lot of good work to educate these Muslims. I have seen the result of their work in my own city and locality. 10-20 years ago, bidats were rampant but Alhamdulillah they have gone down a lot. I am not a Tablighi. Infact I used to dislike them but now I understand their cause. They are doing good work.

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f8e02d No.34505

>>34457

They tend to fabricate hadiths and are very focused on self preservation without attending to someone else's needs either be it by rulings or faith itself. Many of them would shun you for asking questions they would deem fitna inducing although they will never tell you what fitna is. At the end of the day, i don't think what they're doing is good, especially not when they make false history just to raise people's faith. Like i have heard them claim that Muhammad SAW said just before his death salah salah salah. This is not a small issue to take at hand tbh.

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95b35e No.34526

>>34505

This is true and very dangerous, best give them advice if you catch that OP

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95b35e No.34527

Narrated Salama:

I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Whoever (intentionally) ascribes to me what I have not said then (surely) let him occupy his seat in Hell-fire." Sahih al-Bukhari 109

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0477ac No.34503 [Open thread]

I love thinking about Jannah. None of the problems, worries, pains will be there. Then other countless blessings. I can't tell you how much I want it. May Allah have mercy upon muslims.

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bf2336 No.34510

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Know that before pleasure and ease, comes difficulty and hardship. Make sure you know tawhid, kufr bi taghut, baraa from the mushrikeen and walaa to the muslimin. And if you are upon that then Allah (swt) will surely guide you across the sirat bridge over hell and make it to jannah inshaAllah!

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edef06 No.34512

>>34510

InshaAllah

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281701 No.34453 [Open thread]

Have you ever convinced someone that Islam is truth? I tried to talk to a few exmuslims about Islam, they were seemingly soft-hearted yet ignorant and probably ended up thinking I'm a zealot or weirdo. I'm an awkward guy anyway.

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3ee8de No.34456

You mean convert people? Not me personally but my family did. And I debate christians a lot.

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c18680 No.34460

>>34453

yes, it's really a hard job, but blessed at the same time, it worth it.

but first, and before you try to convince anyone about islam you need to

read more

yes, read, and collect some proofs (youtube vids, books, etc) so that you be ready and trusted.

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3b4c4c No.34462

>>34453

We don't convert people. God does.

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ec2fbf No.34463

If you keep giving dawah someone will convert, law of averages.

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0cd80f No.34478

I have given a few shahadas by the glory of allah ta 3la and i regularly give dawa and sometimes have made mistakes but have been blessed

a m a inshallah

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fe5db9 No.20677 [Open thread]

What does Islam say about the makeup and nature of God? Is he material? I think a material, eternal God structured out of eternal particles makes a lot of sense. I can imagine him existing in a substantial sense.

A God of 'spirit' or 'ether' seems empty and strange to me, how can he be said to exist if he lacks substantial physical form?

Also how does Islam explain God's interest in man, why would he intervene in earthly life or judge man? If the universe is a well tuned machine there shouldn't be any need to tinker with it or intervene.

What is there to judge and for what purpose, seems like man does what is in his nature to do, like how bees go about their business and so forth.

And lastly if religions/revelations were all originally "Islam", historically, why didn't God preserve them and guarantee their continuity, why did he repeatedly send new prophets to re-state and re-construct the religion?

And very lastly, is there room for reincarnation in Islam? Are there multiple levels of heaven or hell you can be "reborn" into and shift phases in, making progress, etc? Or are you stuck in 1 level post-mortem?

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a9eec6 No.27451

>>27427

>what do you think this proves?

If you have half the brain I think you do, I'm pretty sure you can figure out why I posted that specific verse, in that specific comment along with those other sentences.

Go bring your own proof to back up your own claims. Believing in reincarnation is kufr, khalas.

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209d09 No.27452

>>27447

/thread

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0eff2b No.28083

>>27427

>what do you think this proves?

That we will be resurrected.

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a0eb5b No.34376

Bumpin' up old threads 6

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63bb3f No.34472

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>>27401

What are you, a jahmite? What a typical and pathetic attempt to disparage salafis. This issue was settled long ago, please educate yourself about Islam

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488b2a No.34451 [Open thread]

Came across this and it really piqued my interest,is it legit?:

… “ Among them was ‘Abdullah Ibn Saba’ [a Jew from Sanaa]” [Reported by al-Khallal, al-Lalika’i, and others].

Shaykhul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) said, “The first to innovate Rafd was a heretical hypocrite named ‘Abdullah Ibn Saba’. He wanted to thereby corrupt the religion of the Muslims, as was done by Paul, the author of the epistles that are with the Christians, thus innovating heresies into their religion. He [Paul] was a Jew, but hypocritically displayed himself as following the Christian religion, intending to corrupt it. Likewise, Ibn Saba’ was a Jew who intended the same. He sought to cause fitnah in order to alter the millah, but he was unable to do so. However, dissension and fitnah did occur between the believers, during which ‘Uthman (radiyallahu ‘anh) was killed. Then there occurred of fitnah what occurred” [Majmu’ al-Fatawa]. He (rahimahullah) also said, “Ibn Saba’ displayed acts of worship. He then displayed the enjoinment of good and forbiddance of evil, until he endeavored to sow discord with the fitnah of ‘Uthman and killed him. Then, when he came to al-Kufah, he displayed extremism concerning ‘Ali and claimed that this was commanded in the texts in order to thereby achieve his goals” [Minhaj as-Sunnah].Ibn Saba’ and his companions – “entered” into Islam in order to destroy the foundations of the religion and nullify its laws, thinking that if they if were to lead the Muslims astray from the magnanimous Hanifiyyah (tawhid), Allah would give victory to the Jews – Bani Isra’il – against their enemies from the Arabs – Bani Isma’il – as well as other nations. And when their failed strategy weakened, they ignited the fire of fitnah between the Muslims until Dhun-Nurayn was killed, and after him the father of the two Hassans (radiyallahu ‘anhum).

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f655f5 No.34452

>>34451

What's the source?

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13f9b7 No.34455

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>>34452

I think OP sources At-Tabari.

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