/islam/ - 8kun Masjid

>>29652

>your position basically says anyone who engages in war will be an apostate

No, strawman, my position is any muslim who fights muslims, with no care for their safety and allies with kuffar against the muslim, has left the religion of islam, he is an apostate.

It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said:

"The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever parts from obedience, and splits away from the Jama'ah and dies, then he has died a death of Jahiliyyah. Whoever rebels against my Ummah, killing good and evil people alike, and does not try to avoid killing the believers, and does not pay attention to those who are under a covenant, then he is not of me. Whoever fights for a cause that is not clear, advocating tribalism, getting angry for the sake of tribalism, and he is killed, then he has died a death of Jahiliyyah.'"

https://sunnah.com/nasai/37/149

This is what kadyrov does by allying with russia to kill muslim civilians, without care. And the same for assad and his majoosi cronies. And anyone who supports them, is an apostate.

>self-defensive war

Assad is the agressor, not the syrian people. Are you a rafidi by any chance?

>>29650

>But I agree the Saudi leadership is evil for their their war of aggression in Yemen.

Sorry, but you can't cherry pick tragedies for your own agenda. You don't use any evidences from qu'ran and sunnah for your position, but simply flip flop based on your desire. Either be consistent and condemn both the syrian and yemeni crisis or go back to r/iran and keep your shilling there.

>>29657

>>29648

>>29642

>>29609

>>29601

>>29598

>>29592

By Allah, you spoke the truth.

He only appears to be a based and a strong leader because he suppresses any kind of rebellion and sucks the gopnik putin

People are afraid of him.

Think for yourself why

>>42852

he's a very smart guy, a lot of his views that he's developed due to his experience in clinical psychology and exploring into different philosophical ideals, and many of those views do align with Islam.

Even though he's a Christian, he's one more so due to necessity, he expresses the fact that the only thing atheism leads to is nihilism, and you can't be productive in anyway with nihilism, it would ultimately lead to downfall of civilizations. You can tell he doesn't believe in a lot of the things in Christianity, he explores biblical stories as if they're myth.

>he hasn't outright said anything bad about Islam and Muslims.

He's very uneducated about Islam, and because of that he stays quiet about Islam most of the time, but you can tell he does get misguided interpretations about Islam from the alt right figures he hangs out with (since they're the only ones that welcome him). He's called Muhammad (SAW) a 'warlord' before on stage, talking about how he was looking into Islam and didn't know what to think about that. He also made one video before during the time here in Canada they were about to pass an "anti-Islamophobia" bill, whatever that means, so he drew a smiley face and asked "is this Muhammad?", it seemed like half a protest and half an exploration into the topic, but I don't blame him, since he's so uneducated about Islam.

I'm really positive that if he got to know what Islam truly is, and got to talk with someone like Mohammed Hijab, then he'd surely accept Islam. Inshallah that will happen one day.

I don't really know about him but I've seen some clips of his talks which I've liked and he makes the right people seethe so he's probably based

>>42852

Literally who?

>>42887

>bring me evidence from quran and sunnah

No evidence I give would be accepted by you because the evidence is already there and you have refused to read it. You don't want to read Qur'an, you just want someone to tell you what's in it, provided that it agrees with your personal fee-fees. Go troll somewhere else. I can smell a shill like a fart in a car.

>>42890

No, it's what the /pol/fags call "taqiyyah" and you're clearly just pulling this "lol its ok to haet da j00s" garbage because /pmd/ is dead and 8bunker is dead, so you want to take over here.

we do not hate jews

Period. No piss off back to /pol/ or Parler or r/wahhabi or whatever hole you crawled out of, kafir.

>>42900

Don't you have a holiday to celebrate, Jesus humper?

Muslims are merciful.

>>42862

*copied from two different sources.

>>21883

https://psychologydictionary.org/elaborative-rehearsal/

Maybe a more efficient way to learn to Quran by heart.

>>21877

Discovered this brother a few days ago.

>>22006

Since I decided to learn Warsh, I've been using Al Husary whenever possible. His pronunciation is great and it helped me a lot.

>>41277

Ibn Taymiyya is also another great scholar.

>>41276

>are mainly political ones, that have Islamic connotations

connotations of kufr, politics can affect your aqeeda, and can make you a kaffir

you can't just believe the shariah of the Lord of the universe is cheap and not be a kafir

>I can't whole heartedly accept your explanation

I explained to you why they don't like each-other, one leans ikhwani the other leans madkhali, simple.

>I've heard that salafis forbid discussions on kalam and rationality so maybe thats why he doesn't talk about that.

you heard wrong, salafis dont forbid it if it's to help convert non muslims into islam, its just that once in islam, scripture overrides philosophy

> like I've heard that there were salafis during the Prophet (SAW)s time but there wasn't a distinction there,

no, thats wrong, idk where you "hear" things from, but you should be careful

Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "It is enough for a man to prove himself a liar when he goes on narrating whatever he hears."

[Muslim].

>they didn't differentiate themselves by calling themselves salafi, it was just a difference of opinion, so what was this difference in opinion.

that's just false, there was no such thing as salafi, since they themselves we're the salaf! what you are saying makes no sense, and they had ijma3 on aqeedah, which the salafis follow, I dont think you know what you are talking about and I suggest you read what I posted a few times

>It makes sense the way you say it, that then all sunnis are salafi, but then why is it that someone like Mufti Menk can say hes salafi, and then SPUBs and Shamsi say no he's not salafi, and then you can say no SPUBs is not salafi they're madkhali.

Because they act in a way contradicting the methodology of the salaf. Mufti Menk believes in democracy, gay riPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Test

al salam 3alaykum

im a sunni maaliki from algeria, i recently got introduced to the UK muslims of Speaker's Corner from a friend that was amazed by them & their debates with non-believers to convince them that islam is deen al 7a9 then i discovered the fitna that is between them it truly saddens me to see brothers in deen enter in conflict with each other the think that shocked me the most and got me really upset to see them call each other names like mubtadi2 innovator kharidji "you're saying tabdi3" and the worst one that i consider the most shocking words you say to another muslim even if he's shi3a "kafir and moortad" (3afakom allah) i would prefered they would say "yahdik allah or dou3a2 bi al hidaya"

they should resolve their issues around a table and in private like a family that we muslims are, instead of exposing our problems in front of strangers & non-believers i wish our scholars intervene in these disputes

after watching multiples videos i think most of them are seeking fame and esteem in the eyes of UK muslims and the maximum number of views & subscriber on their channels

maybe i'm wrong, at least i hope so, and may allah forgive me, ina ba3da danni eethm

>>41822

Wa alaykom salaam,

Yeah completely agree with you, Speakers corner in general promotes this kind of sensationalism which is looked down upon. One thing that is truly hated to Allah is "Qiyla wa Qaala" [¬he said, she said] and that's all they're really doing - talking trash about one another

>>42561

have you thought about not living in darul kufr?

>>42605

there's no conversion by force, the kuffar can keep their religions if they pay jizya

>>42605

The reason we are better than the kuffar is that we follow Islam, the truth. That is essentially the only reason we are better than them. When we criticize the kuffar for their violence, it is because they are spreading KUFR and oppressing MUSLIMS. The violence in and of itself is not bad.

They are inferior to us because they are kuffar and we are Muslims. Indeed, they are the worst of the creatures, worse than dogs and flies and worms. At least those things worship Allah.

It doesn't matter how much the methodology for spreading Islam is similiar to the methodologies the kuffar adopted, that is secondary.

Indeed, jihad is the best way for spreading Islam.

>>42618

Jihad is also part of the sunnah and one of the best good deeds in Islam.

>>42576

Fellow Turkbro here

Yep we're 🤬ed Biden amımıza koycak Dolar rahat 10u görür gibime geliyor

>>42732

Computer is binary though, it doesn't understand trinity.

>>42733

>it doesn't understand trinity.

who does bro

>>42734

Nobody does, not even the Paulians themselves.

Absolute chad AI

Nothing similar that I'm aware of, but that sort of thing is generally cultural. An Irish Muslim will have a different cultural upbringing than a Chinese Muslim, for example. If you actually read those Christian etiquette books, it's just instructions on "how to be white". Notice how the girl in the pic there doesn't have her hair covered, even though non-white Christians all over the world cover women's hair because it is a sign of modesty. White Christians don't do it, generally, because it's too "ethnic".

I think the lack of hair covering is more of a feminist, modern thing. I think it’s more seen as old fashioned and sexist by white people.. White women have been taught to hate white people. They associate being white with being oppressive, conservative, and slave owning.

Ethnic stuff is seen as cool, but only if it’s removed from things like modesty, and made flashy or hyper sexual.

>>42757

Our Prophet SAW has given us the perfect example of what it means to be a man.

Patient,

Wise,

Strong,

God-fearing,

Empathetic,

Supportive…

You should study the example of Muhammad SAW.

>>42645

You can talk to anything you want to. Just open your mouth and speak. What's the problem?

>>42648

How many prayers does it take to get to God?

>>42648

I guess my most sincere question is, how important is actually talking out loud with our mouths to God? Is it better to talk to God in private than seen? Should we keep anything in our heart for God to examine outside of our siblings inspection?

>>42650

1

>>42650

No one earns anything but Hell.

It's through His mercy we get to Him.

>>42814

It wasn't getting out of hand with people telling Undyne that he wasn't welcome or anything similar to that. It was quoting hadith and showing evidence of the ramifications and regret that transgender people undergo when going through with an operation. The other side couldn't deal with the evidence, so they began to scream in red text.

>>42818

It is harder to be a Muslim on /islam/ because you can't even tell a transgender person hadith saying that what they are doing is wrong. You aren't allowed to talk about it. That makes forbidding the evil more difficult. We are supposed to act like it is normal behavior.

>>42818

>why spam up this thread with it?

It's what they do. They demand to be able to bleat nonsense repeatedly until everyone who disagrees with them runs away in frustration, then they claim victory.

>>42819

The conversation is still on the board. Undyne was not made to feel welcomed and was, in fact, told to gtfo and that she could never be Muslim. Further, it had gotten WAY off OP's original topic and, thus, it was already over. THAT is why I ended it.

>>42820

Telling someone a hadith is one thing. Constantly repeating it over and over again is called "spam". Say something once and, if they don't listen, shake the dust off and move on. You are not permitted to browbeat anyone.

>>42819

>they began to scream in red text

Those people were given bans. The others were not. The thread was locked, but not deleted.

Now, if you're going to turn this thread into another "i haet trantrans" spamfest, I will lock it too. If you try to do it to every thread, I can - and will - delete every thread on this board. I can shut off posting completely in order to stop spammers. Do not test me. If you want to hate people, then go to /christian/. All they do is hate.

>>42821

Link to the post where Undyne was told to gtfo and that he could never be Muslim. Nothing close was said anywhere in that thread. All people were trying to do was convince her not to take hormones as they mess with your mind >>41715 and that undergoing transgender surgery is an action that many people regret.

You have the say of what goes on this board, but you are making a complete blatant lie when you say that Undyne was told to gtfo and could never be Muslim.

Transgender people are Muslim, but the important thing is to recognize that what they are doing is haram. If you say it is okay, you have crossed the line, no matter how many 'scholars' you can get to back up that opinion.

I am done with my part of this conversation, so there is no need to block the thread or take other actions.

>>40652

>Many tribes can live on the same patch of dirt.

No they can't; either one tribe will rule over all the others or they'll be in conflict with each other. That's why there have always been borders and territories, these aren't even exclusive to humans.

>>40663

>No they can't

They can, and do.

>there have always been borders and territories

MAN MADE. Allah has never drawn a border on a map.

>aren't even exclusive to humans

Meaningless. We are not animals.

>>40664

>Meaningless. We are not animals.

Yeah, we are.

>>40665

We are above animals, not among them. The angels prostrated to Adam, not to a lowly beast.

>>40637

not necessarily hypocrite, they just not aware that if their arguments were to be applied to something else it falls apart

it's called false dichotomy

then again I could also apply your own argument to yourself

if you think that manmade borders mean anything and you happen to live in the kafir country, then it means you have to protect the country even if it means fighting the Muslims, because chances are the Muslims are fighting against this kafir country, if you don't fight then it means you don't value the manmade borders

now, would you call yourself a hypocrite?

>>42761

You have to train yourself little by little to lower your gaze and stop staring, its probably likely that they even noticed that you check them out. And its definitely something you can train yourself to do, it also used to be hard for me to not stare, but thats because I was always doing it, consciously and because I was doing it so much on purpose, I eventually started doing it even unconsciously, it just became a habit. You gotta do this, because even when you get married, you're going to have this habit unless you force yourself to stop.

>>42783

>Or try muslim dating apps, the paying ones have more serious people.

Some of the people on there don't want to 'date'. They want marriage in accordance with Islamic law. They are few, but they are there.

>>42803

>halal dating

>>42770

Go to a masjid and talk to the Imam.

Alternatively, there are many websites online to help muslims get married, ignore dating sites.

People are being too harsh on you imo It's not as simple as "just ignore them" especially if you are a young male (like me, I am going through something very similar) But I don't think there are any solutions to your problem sorry

thanks brother. Did you let the reddit moderation know it? (maybe…)

>>42750

Like the admins of the site or the mods of the subreddit? I don't think either would care, I don't think it broke any rules technically, you could report for hatespeech or something but reddit is pretty anti religious, so admins are more likely to ban Muslims rather than Islamaphobes.

Ignore this LARPer - 85566c

>>42465

What is your basis for this accusation?

>>42466

His posts, he made like five really obvious LARP posts in different threads the same day. Hence I would not recommend anyone trying to contact this dubious person.

>>42470

>he made like five really obvious LARP posts in different threads

How would you know that?

https://archived.moe/t/thread/746368

>Most of the languages included

>>42679

>All desire?

Yes, all of it. Desire is suffering. Once you have something, you no longer desire it. Desire is for something you don't have - and, in some cases, will never have.

>>42689

>Is your desire to enter Jannah a bad thing?

A bad thing, no, but it is suffering because for all of my desire, I do not know of my worthiness. This is stressful.

>>42705

I wanna watch Sumerians and Aztecs and prophets sent to them. Would be pretty interesting.