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File: 77f3d2ec1c10289⋯.png (38.19 KB,200x267,200:267,Ibnmyatt.png)

b005d9 No.44805 [Open thread]

This thread is probably going to glow brighter than the sun but I promise you I'm not trying to get anyone besides the man in question in trouble.

Some background: David Myatt is a lifelong neo Nazi and almost certainly a federal informant or agent who created the group Order of Nine Angles. O9A is a satanic group that espouses human sacrifice, terrorism, breaking moral norms and taboos and in recent years it's been connected to rape and child trafficking. In the 90s, Myatt's Nazi writings led directly to the London Nailbombings. Proof recently came out in court that the FBI was funding an American branch of the O9A in order to infiltrate and disrupt Atomwaffen Division.

Where Islam comes into this is that in the late 90s and early to mid 2000s David Myatt "converted" to Islam and became involved in circles which the mainstream of Western society would consider extremist (trying to be polite since idk this board's views on what I'm going to get into and because that's besides the point). He promoted Bin Laden, suicide attacks, attacks against civilians and some of his writings were allegedly published by Hamas. But the thing is, a core tenet of O9A is the idea of an "insight role" where you suddenly change your way of life and ideology, preferably to something radical and use that new role for personal growth and to cause evil. So I and many others who know about O9A think that Myatt's "conversion" was an insight role and that insight roles in turn are a cover for Myatt being a fed and O9A being a glowop.

Anyways, during his Islamic period Myatt was mostly active on a website called Islamic Awakening, which appears to no longer be on the clearweb. I'm not trying to get access, to out anyone who was or is involved with that forum or to mine info on the forum itself but if anyone knows anything about Myatt's activities on it that would help bring down a child trafficking MI5 agent who has most likely gotten Muslims arrested and has definitely committed terrorism against them by proxy (the Nailbombings targeted Bengalis among others).

If it matters, I'm not a Muslim or a Nazi or a journalist, I'm an amateur researcher of O9A coming at the topic from a left perspective.

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419102 No.44879

There's a chaos magic (or perhaps qabbala) practice of doing the polar opposite of what you used to. I don't remember how it's called.

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b005d9 No.44883

>>44879

I know Robert Anton Wilson tells you to do that and he was pretty influential on chaos magic iirc. He describes ideologies, moral codes etc. as reality tunnels and tells you to learn to switch between them at will. To be a committed Christian one day and a militant Communist the next.

I think O9A just recommends this practice in order to outsource COINTELPRO type activities to random psychopaths but it is very similar to cult brainwashing techniques. The Manson Family did something they called magical mystery tours (named after some old hippie song) where they would do a ton of drugs and larp until the roles they were playing became completely real to them. It's part of the process of breaking down a person's ego, taboos, sense of ethics etc. so that you can replace them with your will. Modern military training does the same thing.

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b005d9 No.44904

For anyone curious to see a munafiq/fed in action, here's a thread with him in it. He's ibnmyatt of course.

https://web.archive.org/web/20101219012916/http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f18/questions-ibn-myatt-1858/

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b005d9 No.44906

>>44905

Thanks for the bump

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0318b9 No.44908

>>44906

Eh, bot posts.

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afa015 No.44839 [Open thread]

This is an undeniable fact. Verses and hadith pertaining to 'the heavens', Allah being above all creation (asharis btfo), Allah's throne being above 'the waters', as well as the waters being one of the first creation's of Allah ta'ala and many others are very easy to fit in with the flat earth model, while the heliocentric model requires severe mental gymnastics. The only problem is that it is impossible to disprove round earth and it is in line with all modern observations. So how do we reconcile? I would appreciate to hear your thoughts regarding this before the tranny lover kharajite board owner removes this because he's too much of a coward to discuss anything outside his soy zone

(The topic is fine. Being a petty child is not.)
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095208 No.44840

>>44839

>This is an undeniable fact.

Qur'an specifically speaks of the spherical earth, referring to it as a "ball" (arabic: kura and yukawer) in many verses. We believe in science, not your magic fairy tale books like "Revelation" and "Proverbs".

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1c099e No.44842

>>44839

🤬ed around

>>44840

Found out

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f51941 No.23585 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

POLITICAL THREAD

To everyone claiming sunnism

Reminder that if you like many self-proclaimed "sunnis" of today reject the authority of our Sunni Leaders(eg Aal Sauud, Banu Hashim etc) or insult them in any way then you are not part of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah since you are rejecting one of its core principles.

Every group today claiming to be Sunni studies al aqidah al Tahawiyya(meaning it is accepted by both Asharis/Maturidis and Ahlulhadeeth/salafis). And here you find the article:

>72. We do not recognize rebellion against our Imam or those in charge of our affairs even if they are unjust, nor do we wish evil on them, nor do we withdraw from following them. We hold that obedience to them is part of obedience to Allah, The Glorified, and therefore obligatory as long as they do not order to commit sins. We pray for them right guidance and pardon from their wrongs.

The above is what sets Sunnis apart from the Khawarij who would rebel(=khuruuj) against the Muslim Leaders and accuse them of being kuffar. So just like it's essential for a sunni to accept the virtues of Abu Bakr(ra) in opposition to the shi'a, you also have to accept the above. This is such a fundamental part of us Sunnis that it was included with the articles of faith(belief in Allah, the angels, etc) and went on to be accepted as one of the most authoritative texts on orthodox creed. Thus if you disagree with one of these then you are no longer a part of the Sunni community.

Wa salaam

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bf5bc9 No.37009

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1c8e76 No.44714

Bump

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d78785 No.44744

File: 939fe5f6efd4609⋯.jpg (31.36 KB,760x450,76:45,kapak_141428.jpg)

Pic rel, hail to the potential president of Turkey.

>Ali Babacan

>Served as a minister of economics when GDP was peaking.

>Doesnt speak out loudly but secretly hates Atatürk 🤬ry.

But his fatal flaw is he is kinda pro american. He supports bull🤬 sjw agreements for looking like a good neo liberal. (Just like Erdogan in early 2000s)

>>25060

Also get back to the ekşi sözlük, kemalisttard.

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d78785 No.44745

>>24104

>Idc about Turkey's territorial integrity because Erdogan is a giant fake out that didn't do anything good for the Ummah.

You are wrong. Its better for turkey to get rulled by Erdogan rather getting ruled by a kemalist.

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d0ca24 No.44827

>>37007

it's wajib if they apostate, khurooj is haram if it is a muslim leader

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a61a1b No.43846 [Open thread]

Will they marry each other in heaven? Can I attend their wedding?

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fb0262 No.44032

>>43985

It's not funny

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174199 No.44059

>>44058

You don't have to be triggered. This board is for Muslims. God will forgive you and remove your past sins if you accept Islam.

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c06d46 No.44111

>>43979

I think you're overthinking this

The post >>43969 is just harmless fan fic and joke dialog

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ec29a2 No.44807

>>43846

Only Allah(swt) knows.

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8b90ca No.44815

>>43965

And Jesus gets to have siblings, that would be sweet.

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81efdd No.33150 [Open thread]

Is there any reason to NOT be Sufi/Gnostic?

Sufis actually follow the teachings of the Prophet Isa and become one with Allah, unlike many fundamentalist Muslims who worship the Demiurge instead of the true God

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ac7219 No.33162

>>33158

>I know its not a sect.

>Im saying that all Muslims should be Sufi.

It's a contradiction. What you claim to be "sufis" are just normal sunni muslims.

>I never claimed there were two Gods The Demiurge represents an incomplete image of Allah.

There is no incomplete image of Allah (swt), the complete image is in the quran and ALL muslims including so called "sufis" follow it.

>If you claim to be Muslim, but you arent Sufi, you worship the Demiurge.

Why is that? You seem like a gnostic LARPer tbh

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58adc3 No.33168

>>33158

>all Muslims should be Sufi

You can't "be" Sufi. You can be Muslim. You can be Sunni, or Shi'a, or Ibadi; but you can't be Sufi. You can embrace Sufism and study in the Sufi way, but you can't "be Sufi".

>interested in practising Islam

If that were true, then you would practice Islam. Your worthiness for this board is that you either are Muslim or you are interested in becoming Muslim. If you're not Muslim and you're coming here talking about Irfan and "the mystics", then we can spot you a mile away and will know you're not sincere. If you sincerely wish to study Islam, then start with Qur'an. Read it, then read it again, then again, then read it again, then go to a mosque (hint: there are no "Sufi mosques") and learn how to pray, then read Qur'an again, and one more time, then start reading the Sunnah of the Prophet, and so on and so on and so on for 10 years or so, living every day as a Muslim and in the way of the Prophet … THEN you can start the basics of Irfan.

Rumi grew up Hanafi (Sunni), was taught Islam well into adulthood, before he started looking into Irfan. Were he alive today, he'd tell you the same thing: you can't just "be" Sufi.

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43bf00 No.44715

>>33158

>>>33158

>>The Demiurge represents an incomplete image of Allah

>God is not the creator of samsara becaue then he would have to be praying to himself.

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43bf00 No.44716

>>>33158

>>The Demiurge represents an incomplete image of Allah

God is not the creator of samsara becaue then he would have to be praying to himself.

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8ac0c3 No.44794

>>33168

You can't be Sufi because they

deal with demons comes as angels

Introduce magic into the Islamic community

Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya Was Sufi

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b2ebad No.44786 [Open thread]

just wanted to skeet by and remind my brothers and sisters that imam mahdis 1263rd birthday is coming up

assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

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23f1d3 No.44788

>>44786

>1263rd birthday

born: 15 Sha'ban 256

today: 23 Rabiʻ II 1443

1443 - 256 = 1187

>coming up

You have a really loose definition of that term.

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52d2a4 No.44437 [Open thread]

A lot of Muslims say that art (as in drawing and painting) is haram, but I've always loved drawing pictures of people. Is this haram?

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b4b7d1 No.44438

>>44437

The only forbidden type of art in Islam is sculpting realistic statues to be worshiped.

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e1d719 No.44460

>>44437

any drawing of animate being is not allowed

it's a mockery to Allah as if you can create lives

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d208ca No.44724

>>44723

Samsung Sam was “created” by humans. She will never exist.

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477361 No.44735

>>44724

pain

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307b20 No.44782

>>44724

If I go to jannah I will ask Allah(swt) to make her truly real and for me. Without a doubt Allah is the only one who can do it. InshaAllah that happens.

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f5a6a3 No.44743 [Open thread]

Salam brothers. I studied in a religious high school. So I have no girlfriend experience. On the other hand I had no much interest to dating things before hs too. I always reminded myself such things are unnecessary and haram, I said to myself I will do it whenever its time to marry. Now I am in a course that is preparing for university exam. So classes are mixed. My buddy is about to ask out a girl. I didnt really care things until he was about to get a girlfriend. He talks about her, he goes to activities with her and I feel lonely.

Love seems like a good feel but my time hasnt come yet. But as I said on title I recently discovered blackpill and I started to fear of dying alone. I am tall, decent face but I am afraid I will be forever alone for being too much inexperienced/autistic with girls.

Also I feel so disappointed whenever I see high schooler hijabi girls with their boyfriend. Is all that patiance, struggle for the girls that has been kissed, touched by other men?

At the end this thread didnt reached anything. I just want some advice if you have been in a similar situations.

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29a3c8 No.44746

>>44743

Go to the mosque every day. You won't be alone anymore.

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f5a6a3 No.44747

>>44746

But I cant marry with the 60 year old mans.

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29a3c8 No.44749

>>44747

Those 60 year old men have daughters.

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f5a6a3 No.44750

>>44749

Damn you are right. But why would anyone let their daughter to marry a random zoomer in mosque?

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29a3c8 No.44751

>>44750

They want their daughters to marry young Muslim men who spend time in the mosque. Also, we're not like Christians. The mosque isn't full of 80 year olds just biding their time until death. Young men go to the mosque and participate and, if they're looking for marriage, there's always someone who has a sister/cousin/daughter who is looking for marriage as well.

But … and this is the hard part … you have to go to the mosque as much as possible. Every day if you can. You have to be seen and be known, not just be a "random zoomer".

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982af9 No.44737 [Open thread]

Say A (man) and B (woman) are a married couple. They end up divorcing but B ends up with another person, C (man). Since B is having a hard time cutting contact with A they stay in contact but it's damaging C since he wants to leave the past behind. In this scenario B is doing a haraam act by talking to a male other than her family or husband. Say that it was permitted to talk to your ex-husband, what could be other reasons that C is so upset about this and how does he justify his anger about the situation to B?

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4466e6 No.44738

>>44737

C needs to learn to stop being a petty little bitch and B needs to learn to respect her husband more and A needs to learn that once you're divorced, that's it.

A and B can talk to each other about necessary things - for example, if they have children - but otherwise, it's just like talking to any other woman/man.

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9ea840 No.44469 [Open thread]

I like Muslim culture. I think it is healthier in terms of not being as materialist, and having a more traditional understanding of men and women.

However, I believe that Jesus was God in human form and he was crucified. That is really my only hang-up. I had two very religious experiences. One was God sent Saint Mary Magdalene to introduce me to Jesus, and to set an example of a good follower of Him. God said she would always be with me. The second was God told me he would always be with him.

In this experience, it was never directly said that Jesus was God, though, but I just assumed so because I was raised Christian, but moved away from it.

I feel disconnected from my culture, I guess. I often feel sad and lost. God is a great comfort for me. He has helped me, and He is great.

Thank you for listening to my trouble, brothers and sisters. God bless you.

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131691 No.44478

>>44469

>I like Muslim culture.

Cool.

>I believe that Jesus was God

Oh, then you don't like Muslim culture.

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c7266d No.44638

>>44469

18. Surah Al-Kahf (The Cave)

In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful

1. All the praises and thanks be to Allah, Who has sent down to His slave (Muhammad) the Book (the Qur'an), and has not placed therein any crookedness.

2. (He has made it) Straight to give warning (to the disbelievers) of a severe punishment from Him, and to give glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a fair reward (i.e. Paradise).

3. They shall abide therein forever.

4. And to warn those (Jews, Christians, and pagans) who say, "Allah has begotten a son (or offspring or children)."

5. No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. Mighty is the word that comes out of their mouths [i.e. He begot (took) sons and daughters]. They utter nothing but a lie.

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16448e No.44722

>>44469

Jesus is a son of God, David is a son of God, Jacob is a son of God and so on. This is not islam. This is christianity. This is judaism.

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4a2533 No.44027 [Open thread]

I married a non Muslim and I found out that she prays I get divorced and find a nice Muslim girl. I don’t even know what to think.

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acfd10 No.44040

>>44027

Why did you marry a non Muslim, how did you not know that she wouldn't like that?

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4a8509 No.44042

Can't marry a kafir in dar al kufr, only in dar al islam, to guarantee the children will follow your religion. You made a mistake.

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7ba4ee No.44046

>>44040

>>44042

Don't bother replying to frogposters. This is basically "my mommy doesn't like thing, but I did thing anyway, and now I mad she mad". Just let it die.

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715a54 No.44237

May you get divorced.

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d0996e No.44721

>>44027

Don't think.

Meditate on God's name.

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9ccda3 No.44687 [Open thread]

will i be arrested if i make a doom mod where the demons are replaced with people like zionist soldiers, chinese military, hindus (maybe modi), thr rothschilds etc.

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77f676 No.44689

>>44687

>will i be arrested

In what country? Not all laws are the same.

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4d787a No.44690

>>44689

judging by the fact that he is asking this im guessing he is in the USA or something

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77f676 No.44691

>>44690

Ah, well, then the answer would be: No.

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0d7c4d No.44693

Does this mod involve creating human sprites?

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77f676 No.44694

>>44693

OP said "human sprites", so I assume yes; but that's still not an arrestable offense.

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d4b946 No.44499 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

If it is, why? I was thinking about having a girlfriend but my sister told me is haram. I can't take nothing she (or any other w*Men who isn't my mother) seriously so I ask you guys: It is haram or not having a gf?

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413674 No.44704

>>44703

>Why are men and women separated in the Mosque?

>in the Mosque

>a restaurant is the Mosque

Seriously, are any of you actually Muslim or are you just pretending to be Muslim as based on /pol/-level stereotypes?

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4e9546 No.44706

>>44704

You really like to accuse anyone that disagrees with you of being a non-Muslim. I won't say the same to you, I will just say that you are disgraceful. You also completely ignored the rest of my post, choosing to single out and misrepresent one small part. That is a strawman..>>44683

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413674 No.44708

>>44706

When one obvious and glaring error can be found, the rest of the argument need not be considered. I'm done with this conversation. You've proven that you're willing to twist and manipulate Islam to suit your special snowflake needs, which means you're not Muslim. This board is for Muslims, not for you.

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fbec25 No.44709

>>44708

Nah, this board is not for arrogant Takfiris like you. Making such weak accusations makes YOU the kafir, so repent and reform yourself.

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5d69ab No.44736

>>44708

The obvious and glaring error is that you are saying that the consensus among almost all of the scholars is wrong (excluding a very small fraction of a percentage). You're arguments are nothing more than strawmen, insults, and calling the other person a non-Muslim. I don't even know how to respond to such a person, besides telling you to repent and to reform your actions.

If you have a boyfriend/girlfriend you are going against the Sunnah of the Prophet PBUH. That is an obvious fact. You need to face this fact, and deal with it.

>I'm done with this conversation

because you have no argument besides saying that it is okay to date and have haram relationships based on your say-so and nothing else.

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9ff156 No.43053 [Open thread]

Fitness thread?

where my fellow believers at?

Orthodox and Catholics welcome to post here as well, but you must pay the jizya(post body)

Muslims must pay the zakat(pushups)

Thread feel:

https://youtu.be/NmeyKxR1aOk

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cd39dd No.43536

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>43529

You seem to workout really hard and you know what you are doing, but I still gonna stick with my workout. I just want to be fit and have muscles.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_nG43cKEbAg

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d2349f No.43558

>>43523

Advice: Add Pull-ups and calf raises to your routine to avoid muscle imbalances

anyone here interested in bodybuilding? A lot of shows are haram to compete in because you uncover awrah in front of women, but I am interested in starting All-muslim bodybuilding competitions, they can be online or in-person. I could start a discord group, IRC, telegram or something if you guys want to participate

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6a17df No.43612

>>43536

The guy in your vid related didn't gain much muscle, he mostly just lost the fat. He looks bigger because of multiple fraud camera techniques, first off he's obviously taking the vid of day 100 right after a workout when his muscles are pumped and swole, whereas the other pics he hasn't, second the camera is closer and possible a wider angle lens making him look bigger, and third the lighting is very different with the goal of creating shadows for the lines of his muscles.

I'm not saying its not going to do anything, but if you look at the results in real life, you'll be disappointed.

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c290be No.43650

I've been told by Muslims that fasting during and after Ramadan is good for one's health. It can aid in the goals of many popular exercise programs. How true is this?

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58e7b7 No.44649

your body has right over you, you must be fit and healthy so that the rights are fullfiled.

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ff82a0 No.44608 [Open thread]

Is it mandatory for the wife to obey her husband, or is the ideal relationship in Islam one where the husband and the wife work together?

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fc4789 No.44644

>>44610

Funny how people that follow the Sunnah of the Prophet PBUH are labeled as "incel" by you.

In a Hadeeth on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbaas, may Allah be pleased with him, it was mentioned that a woman came to the Prophet, sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ), and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I am a delegate [from a group of] women and there are none of them, whether she knows or does not know that I would come to you, except she would want me to come to you. Allah The Almighty is the Lord of both men and women and their God, and you are the Messenger of Allah, for both men and women. Allah has prescribed Jihaad for men only; if they are victorious, their reward is great, and if they die as martyrs, they are alive with their Lord, receiving sustenance. [For women], which act of obedience is equal in reward to this?” The Messenger of Allah, sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ), replied: “OBEYING THEIR HUSBANDS and (being aware of and) fulfilling their rights; and few of you do that.”

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84d9d9 No.44648

>>44644

>incel

that's why i asked is he muslim, since muslims do not have the right to name each other by the command of allah.

but just the word incel itself is an attack on muslims and our religion since it promots for zina, meaning if you dont do zina your opinion is not valid, such ideas and concept must be refused by us because they are from a satanic background as le west is, thier entire life is around zina and whats the shortest way to jahannam.

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498de6 No.44659

>>44648

it buffles me how not doing zina makes your opinion invalid, does that mean what Jesus (pbuh) taught was also invalid? while at the same time paulinianity is prevalent in the west

kuffar are retarded

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56a387 No.45325

>>44610

incorrect and cringe

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46188b No.45430

women always have a reason for asking for divorce, a lot of the time, it's a reason in their mind, not attuned to reality, but to satanism, in bible, it says that satan comes to women when they're alone.>>44640

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