/islam/ - 8kun Masjid

Masha'Allah.

Could anyone translate the video to English? I'll make sure to translate it to Arabic and spread it. I'm Moroccan and oddly no one heard about this in my home country.

Also, don't leave the fbclid on your links.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/han-ar-prasten-som-konverterade-till-islam-behover-ingen-raddning

>>41958

I usually edit links to remove such things when I notice them.

Alhamdulillah

>>42642

Schools are fine, I’m not sure what the incident says about Muslims though.

>>42637

>>42644

>this particular aspect of Islamic culture transcends economics

>When the sultan conquers an area that refused the ultimatum

Exactly. This did not happen in England. Muslim rape gangs are not following Sharia, under Sharia they would have the hadd punishment imposed (the same as the punishment for zina). England is not a caliphate. This is a serious problem and the perpetrators are not practicing Muslims. Do you really think these people are praying 5 times a day while they are grooming young girls to be raped, in some cases for money? No they aren’t. They might call themselves Muslims but they are not practicing Islam.

>>42641

That teacher wasn't discussing those cartoons. He was blatantly showing cartoons that were disrespectful to the Prophet PBUH. He did it to be provocative and teach the children about "free speach". I'm not saying he should have been beheaded, but there really is no such thing as freedom of speech. You can't walk around saying "I'm going to kill the president of such and such country", you would be arrested. Cartoons like Family Guy regularly make disrespectful depictions of Allah Himself, and no one does anything about it. Allah should be put above the Prophet PBUH in all matters. I'm not saying that the creators of Family Guy should be beheaded, I am just trying to put things in perspective.

>>42647

The first guy brought them up, the second guy said that slavery is a part of Islam and went into detail about it, in response to the first guy.

>>42646

>>42646

So those gangs acted with too much transparency? If England was conquered by Islam what those gangs were doing would be systemised and given theological backing, but until then they should have acted with more restraint?

Somebody else already described sex slavery as just ‘another part of the economy’ a few posts back, so it seems those gangs were just bad optics rather than bad Muslims.

Why wouldn’t they pray five times a day? We know slavery is permissible under Islam and that different rulings apply to non believers than to Muslims. For instance, if you stole from a Muslim it would be a terrible sin, but what if you stole from a shop owned by a member of a ‘crusader’ nation? Does the sharia not deal with those things differently? Same with these gangs, they only targeted ‘animals’, as that guy a few posts above described their ‘kuffar’ victims.

Those ‘grooming’ gangs never, ever targeted Muslim girls, who they no doubt had access to. This suggests at least some degree of consciousness as to how they should operate. There are accounts of south Asians murdering their own daughters when they refuse to marry their cousin or uncle or whatever in Pakistan, the prospect of their children associating with ‘animals’ is a fate worse than death.

We know non Muslims are held to a different standard than Muslims in Islam, they are perceived as ‘unclean’ or living in ‘ignorance’. Do you not think this mindset helped the grooming gangs depersonalise their victims?

>>42653

>If England was conquered by Islam what those gangs were doing would be systemised and given theological backing

No. If England was conquered by Islam and everyone was enslaved, you aren’t allowed to mass rape the populous. Sexual relations are allowed with certain slaves, but it has to be done with their consent.

>Somebody else already described sex slavery as just ‘another part of the economy’

That is wrong. Prostitution is strictly forbidden in all instances.

>Why wouldn’t they pray five times a day?

Because the prayer is a barrier against sin. When Muslims pray, they are supposed to be thinking about Allah and their actions, the good and the bad. It isn’t normal for a Muslim to pray completely concentrating on how they are supposed to be acting to please Allah, and then go about operating a sex slavery business. That is crazy. If they don’t care about their actions, they aren’t going to care about praying like they are supposed to.

>but what if you stole from a shop owned by a member of a ‘crusader’ nation? Does the sharia not deal with those things differently?

No. The rules don’t go out the window when you are living among non-Muslims. You aren’t allowed to steal, rape, murder or commit any other crime just because you are dealing with non-Muslims. Muslims are supposed to follow the rules in the country they are living in, unless they contradict the laws of Allah. So if a country made a law saying you couldn’t pray, it would be obligatory to break that law.

>There are accounts of south Asians murdering their own daughters when they refuse to marry their cousin or uncle or whatever in Pakistan

This practice is not supported by any Islamic legislation. It is an evil innovation.

> Do you not think this mindset helped the grooming gangs depersonalise their victims?

All criminals find a way to justify their criminal behavior to themselves. How does this in any way have anything to do with Islam? The actions of criminal Muslims arPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>42462

Cool story. Now coming back to reality, we see that LGBT pride is proof that christianity works(as intended by its founder - satan). Now go "confess" your "humanity" to your father(s) while you still can.

>>42462

>in all muslim countries I have visited

I suspect this is zero. Who goes to Muslim countries and goes around asking if people visit prostitutes? People keep these things hidden in the west, but you are saying people in muslim countries openly brag about it?' Then you say we are simultaneously covering up things and lying constantly. Why didn't the people that were supposedly visiting prostitutes lie like everyone else does?

Do you think we are stupid? You contradicted yourself in your own 🤬tty bait. Go troll somewhere else.

>>42462

bruh ppl in muslim countries get married as teenagers if someone does that stuff it's because they're seeking it not because they need it

>>42462

>my personal experience represents billions of Muslims

cool story bro

>>42463

>Islam is not a magic button that stops humans from being human

It's not???

>>34673

link?

>>34707

archive.org

telegram

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vkontakte

Akhi

Soundcloud.com

Archive.org

Elokab.li

Spreaker.com

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Nasheeds are not Islam.

Nasheeds is hypnosis.

Stop it for God

>dude the 4 madhhabs have so much disagreements so we must go to the source to find the "truth" and one uniform fiqh and call it salafism

>3 salafi colleagues and contemporary scholars that all study the same editions of the same printed books still manage to end up with even more disagreements in fiqh and aqidah than the 4 Imams of the madhhabs that lived in different times in different different cities without modern means of communications and without a shared library

lul

>>42525

The difference is in aqidah not fiqh.

>>27297

the best salafi's are the ones that type "salafee" and "Akhee"

>It is obligatory upon the Muslim to follow the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), according to the way of the righteous salaf who followed the guidance of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), the Sahaabah and those who followed them – may Allah be pleased with them all.

>Everyone who has any knowledge of the movement of Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab (may Allah have mercy on him) and his message knows that he sought to spread the message of pure Tawheed and to warn against shirk in all its forms, such as attachment to the dead, or to trees and rocks, etc.

>In his ‘aqeedah (belief), he was following the way of the righteous Salaf and the earliest Muslim generations, as is indicated by his books and fatwas, and the books of his followers among his sons and grandsons and others. His message was in accordance with the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).

>Wahhaabism is not a new way or a new school of thought; rather it is a call to Tawheed and the revival of aspects of the religion that had been forgotten. What you have to do is to beware of those who warn you against the Wahhabis such as deviant Shia etc, because they are warning you against following the truth and the early generation of this ummah.

>Applying the word “Wahhaabis” to those who adhere to correct belief and warning people against them is the way of the ignorant and biased. We ask Allah to keep the Muslims safe and sound.

>>42550

Funny how MIAW's entire works on aqeedah combined (Kitab Tawheed, Usul Iman, Nawqidh Islam et al.) are only about 200 pages long, yet no one can refute or attack him there.

All they can do is throw ad hominems like vehappi.

>>41914

Protect your modesty.

>is nude art in general wrong?

Yes, but remember that you are responsible for yourself. Part of protecting your modesty is casting your eyes down.

obviously

get muslim friends

The whole art and drawing thing is not right in islam . be it nude or not . but non moving creatures are okay . like landscapes etc .

>>41920

>get muslim friends

That sums it up nicely. Too many people paying lip service to Islam here, but how many actually go to the mosque every day and interact with the brothers?

I saw a vid of Victorian England in 1901 some time ago, and all the women were wearing headscarfs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HbElEqm1TQ&ab_channel=DenisShiryaev

>>42516

>>42503

>t. seething zanadiqah

>>42518

You can't add to the worship the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم did you zindeeq mubtadi3. You don't love the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم more than the sahaba and none of them celebrated his birthday.

There are only eid adha, eid ul fitr and jumu'ah which is considered a eid in the hadith, there is no mention of eid al mawlid, which is a copy of christmas invented by the fatimids.

>>42502

Acknowledge, but do not celebrate.

>>42518

What would you say to making up a new holiday to celebrate the revealing of the first revelation to the Prophet PBUH? It would be another way to remember that event and its great significance. We could all get together and have another kind of Eid! Nothing wrong with that! We would just be remembering Allah and worshiping him in a new and exciting way.

That must of been kind of what the people that invented the Mawlid thought, except they wanted something more. They wanted a Muslim Christmas. They wanted to be like the Christians, and celebrate the birthday of the Prophet PBUH just like the birthday of Jesus PBUH is celebrated.

The thing is that the only ways we are supposed to worship Allah and act towards the Prophet have been revealed to us through revelation. If you do anything extra, you are doing something wrong.

>>42519

>>42520

>>42521

Only a zindiq would get so frustrated at people praising the Prophet and get so desperate as to resort to using such low iq objections as arguments.

>>42424

>You also have to find 4 women who not only find you marriage worthy, but who also are willing to enter into a polygamous marriage.

But HOW? thats what Im asking. Obviously I need to find willing women, obviously I have to be of high quality, obviously not every women is the same (yet we still have guides on how to approach monogamous marriage). But how do I go on that search, how do I have that conversation with them and their families to make them understand?

It seems like you're not knowledgeable on the subject, yet you keep commenting for some reason.

>>42425

>But HOW?

You don't. If you know a brother at mosque has a daughter of marriage age and you're seeking a wife, then you simply get to know that brother and - over time - express your desire for marriage. Conversely, if you meet a woman who you desire to marry, you talk to her and - over time - express your desire to marry.

If your primary desire from the get go is to have 4 wives, then you will never have even 1. The "4 wives" thing is permissible, but not obligatory. Your desire for 4 wives feels more like a fetish.

I don't know what answer will satisfy you, but no father is going to let you marry his daughter with your attitude.

>It seems like you're not knowledgeable on the subject

I have daughters. I know what it's like when some jackass starts drooling and slavering over wanting one of them to be his fetish fulfillment.

>>42425

Move to a country that's besieged and all the men are being killed off. Marry the widows. That's pretty much how it's been done all throughout history. Even the Prophet(pbuh) married women who were war widows or whose betrothed had died. Marriage isn't like picking hookers at a brothel.

>>42427

I was thinking about divorced Muslim women here in the west, some of them its their fault for divorce, but some of them were just abused by their ex husbands and thrown away, divorced Muslim women have some of the lowest potentials to marry again and have limited support especially if they've had children. I would be open to marrying a woman like this if shes a very pious woman who puts religion and family over all, (if all parties were willing, and I had the means to, inshallah).

>>42431

>I was thinking about divorced Muslim women

Not a terrible idea.

>>42439

>attempting to radicalize

>on /islam/

We are a board of peace, FBI.

Also: NYPA

>>42334 (OP)

>are the Muslims in Europe doing gang rapes and grooming children doing it because of Islamic culture or is it something about their specific countries

This is more so a sociopolitical issue. These are immigrants that are coming from bottom up run societies, where theres social cohesion, a collectivist objective, neighbors care about each other, look out for one another, can easily figure out when somethings wrong, theres more preventative social measures to stop such immoral actions, and then the community can easily condemn and ostracize criminals. These criminals would've done it in Muslim societies too, but they're not able to because of the society, and if they were caught would've gotten capital/corporal punishment.

When they come to western societies its totally different, these are top down run surveillance societies, where the people in the communities have different ideals and senses of moralities to each other, the focus is on individualism, people don't really care about each other, people rarely know who their neighbors are. So whenever there is lack of surveillance and authority, people act on their desires, we saw this in the recent US riots. So these rapists they would prey on kids who come from dysfunctional backgrounds, who are neglected by their communities, there is no social pressure here that would deter these criminals, until they're found out by authorities. If you look at a lot of these cases, in order to get justice the victims or even councilors would have to go through the whole bureaucratic processes of bringing it into police attention, and it still didn't work.

>Is the ultimate goal of Islam to spread all over the world and be the only allowed religion?

Thats pretty much the case with majority of religions and ideologies. Western secularism is NOT a neutral position. No matter what there is always going to be a clash of ideals.

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>>42355

I sure do love having a Islamist lecture me on Christianity. Cringe tripfag.

>>42429

Where do you think you are?

>tripfag

Do you even know what that means?

>>42429

>calling an anonymous poster a tripfag

super cringe.

Why come here if you don't want to hear Islamists lecture you on things? Are 🤬ed?

>Why should Christians and Muslims hate each other?

No, we shouldn't.

>The way I see it, we stand for the same thing ultimately - no degeneracy, no American TV shows indoctrinating our children, no loose morals, but strong integrity and ethics. Do you agree, or is this more of a moralist view?

I do not completely agree.

Those things you listed are all rather vague (degeneracy, indoctrination, etc), and I feel that while I might have an idea of what you're talking about, it would be unfair to say "I agree".

We Muslims worship God, and that's it. God does not allow things that are bad for us, and as such we are not allowed to do a lot of the things you're probably implying, but the reason for us not doing them is mainly because God wants us to.

>I think we can agree on american culture being the cancer that seeks to spread all over the world and destroy it (I wouldn't call it "western" really, because it all comes from the US). We can also probably agree that many sects of Christianity are cancerous and should be cleansed (same probably goes for many Islamic sects).

I do not think American culture is cancer. American culture at it's core wants to free people and allow them to be the author of their own lives. This is also a reason the BO here is a American Muslim, because the society in which he lives allowed him to research on his own and find his way without opressing him.

Sadly, American culture is made by men, and thus not perfect, but it's far from the worst system we've created.

I do not know much about sects, so I won't answer.

>I would love to hear your views and opinions on these things. Hate brings only hate and never ending cycle of hate, it is Jesus who taught me to take the higher road and forgive my enemies, because there is no difficulty in being kind to your friends. Again I am sure the Quran must bring similar wisdom.

I would compare Islam to a beehive. A community working together and fighting back when attacked.

Another thing is; Why is your Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>42410

We're not interested in songs praising some warlord who "terrorizes Jews". I'm sure /pnd/ can help you, but this board isn't for that.

>>42239

Does he support russia / putin?

Does he support democracy?

>>42240

He did not support the Taguts and their regimes.

>>42298

>He was also the Co-chairman and member of the Presidium of the Russian Social Movement "Russian Islamic Heritage"[2] Permanent member of the Popular Arab and Islamic Congress;[3] one of the founders and a member of the Coordinating Council of the Left Front (Russia). member of the The Other Russia (coalition). He took part in the Dissenters' March.[4]

Explain these taghut? And he says dugin is good and his disciple? What is this trash?

>>42307

CIA, you trash

>>41362

Because Allah, not the individual, determines everything. Existentialism is inherently atheistic.

>>41362

The other guy is right. The philosophers of existentialism worked on the presupposition that there was no god or Nietzsches 'God is dead' (that society has become atheistic), and so then they struggle to find the purpose of life (existentialism). Probably the most coherent conclusion is Nihilism, that (without god) life has no meaning, and so then they figure out how to deal with that.

Islamic philosophers worked on the presupposition that Islam is true, that God had told us our purpose, to worship and serve Him. And so Islamic philosophers were more focused on theological philosophy, justifying existence of God, the relationship between our free will and Gods will, etc. They proposed whats known today as the Kalam Cosmological argument which is arguably the strongest argument for the existence of God.

The most famous Islamic philosopher is probably Al-Ghazali, one of his popular works "The Incoherence of the Philosophers" he criticizes and argues claims made by other philosophers like Ibn Sina who took a lot of inspiration from Aristotle even when the views contradicted concepts in Islam. Ibn Sina was another influential philosopher, yet his most notable contribution was in the field of medicine with his "The Canon of Medicine", a medical encyclopedia which was the standard in many places for centuries.

>>41356

tbh I've read Kierkegaard and enjoyed/learn a lot from him. Even with western philosphy, although it is always secular, a muslim can learn quite a bit from them.

Naturally no book comes even close to the wisdom of the Quran, but with western philosphy one can still learn quite a few things from it.

Even Nietzsche, although an aetheist, his philosphical musings do have some merit, especially from the Islamic perspective. For example, while life itself is inhernetly meaningless, the worldy life for the sake of itself is meaningless (i.e. without religion, there is no meaning).

So tbh I say read Kierkegaard, but keep in mind that what he says (or any philospher) is not the be-all-end-all. Just keep the Quran nearest to your heart, and take the good from the books you read, and leave the bad

>>41528

I meant to say

"while life itself is not inherently meaningless"

>>41528

I agree there is benefit to be gained from such authors. But when I "object" is when a muslim is more interested in delving into the western literature/philosophers before touching the Islamic ones.