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d73353 No.40629

What are your honest opinions on the politicians in western countries like Angela Merkel in Germany that want to flood their countries with as many migrants from muslim and african countries as possible in order to erode the racial and cultural structure of society?

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600b8e No.40631

>>40629

>to erode the racial and cultural structure of society?

Is it truly?

Culture is irrelevant to the tide of Islam. It is culture that has be structured to fit Islam, not the other way around. I'm sure the same is supposed to be applied on those migrant muslims considering the news about them.

I digress. My opinion on those "leftist" politicians? They're liberal/neolib. Nothing close to a tankie or nazbol but still objectively worse than most in the left spectrum. Most of them just follow what's the best for getting profits through exploitation or woke points.

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6de268 No.40632

>>40629

>ZOG flooding in migrants

It all depends on the native populace.

Do the native populace want an endless flood of migrants to their land?

If the answer is no, then the government is committing an act of treason and oppression, and should be dealt with immediately.

In Islam, oppression should be fought against, tooth and nail. Also you niggеrs should stop making weapons and selling them to terrorists in the Middle East and Africa.

It is mentioned in a hadith that Dajjal (the Antichrist) : "would have a mountain load of bread and mutton and rivers of water" (Sahih Muslim 2939 b)

The "Muslims" flooding into the West for a piece of that wealth are actually flocking to the Antichrist, so 🤬'em.

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b59e4f No.40633

>>40629

It doesn't matter. The world belongs to Allah. Our manmade lines and borders mean nothing.

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4dd8cb No.40636

>>40632

>Do the native populace want an endless flood of migrants to their land?

Yes. For example, in Germany, most people are very open and welcoming of the immigrants. A handful of crying racists and Muslim-haters doesn't mean "the people don't want it". There will never be 100% consensus, but majority rules.

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6de268 No.40637

>>40633

>Our manmade lines and borders mean nothing.

Yep, which is why it's perfectly fine for the Israelis to displace the local Palestinians.

I don't know why some people can't stop bitching about this. After all, our manmade lines and borders mean nothing.

>>40636

The same can be said for Palestine.

A handful of crying racists and Jew-haters doesn't mean "the people don't want it". There will never be 100% consensus, but majority rules.

**The amount of hypocrisy coming out of these so called "Muslims" on this board is disgusting"

(Maybe you need to make your own board. /islam/ is obviously not for you.)
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c33ab6 No.40644

>>40637

>anon isn't an opportunistic hypocrite

>gets banned by assblasted mods

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600b8e No.40645

>>40637

What did he do to get a reminder, BO?

The sarcasm was kinda on point.

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1f90bd No.40646

>/islam/ is obviously not for you

Great da'wah, BO sarcasm just in case

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1f90bd No.40647

>>40644

>>40645

>banned because he hurts mods' feefees

Not really surprising, to be honest. I was banned from 8chan's /islam/ for pointing out hypocrisy as well.

The board had always been run by totalitarian pricks who are deliberately oblivious of the prophet's stance on free speech.

They worship their egos instead of Allah.

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600b8e No.40648

>>40647

>prophet's stance on free speech

Do elaborate. I've always seen any Islamic rule as leaning totalitarian rather than liberty.

For example, The Murtad Question.

Are they supposed to be killed or some other form of punishment?

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1f90bd No.40649

>>40648

>Do elaborate

https://sunnah.com/abudawud/43/124

>For example, The Murtad Question.

>Are they supposed to be killed or some other form of punishment?

In Islam, the Quran is the immutable Word of God, and everything in it supersedes everything else outside of it including the Sunnah.

That means every ruling must refer to the Quran first and foremost. If the Sunnah contradicts the Immutable Word of God, then the Sunnah is considered weak/invalid.

So if you want any ruling on Murtad, you have to look for verses in the Quran about the subject of leaving Islam.

I'm no Hafiz, and I'm familiar with only two verses regarding this :

https://quran.com/2/256 : "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion"

https://quran.com/3/85 : "And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."

According to the verses, Allah designates leaving Islam as a grave sin, but not as a criminal offense.

A good example of this would be not performing Salah. It's a sin, but not a crime.

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20a528 No.40650

>>40645

It wasn't sarcasm. His ban appeal shows his true nature. That particular poster has contributed nothing to the board except insults and calling others "hypocrite" for weeks. I have been very tolerant, but decided it was time to give him a short break.

>>40647

>run by totalitarian pricks

Only one person runs this board.

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09a97a No.40651

>>40633

49:13

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b59e4f No.40652

>>40651

We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another.

Ok. What does that have to do with anything I said? Many tribes can live on the same patch of dirt.

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f0ab9d No.40653

>>40629

>What are your honest opinions on the politicians in western countries like Angela Merkel in Germany

IMO they're only there for their own benefits, I have a friend who's a son of one of the politicians in our country. Their decision are often made after extensive lobbying by external parties (banks, corps, etc).

>that want to flood their countries with as many migrants from muslim and african countries as possible

There are many benefits to this;

lower wages,

distrust in the populace,

identity politics,

etc etc

>in order to erode the racial and cultural structure of society?

A society without those is far easier to control, so I kinda get it.

I feel like people like you are unable to see the bigger picture, just like blacks were sold by their masters are you sold by your masters.

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ad05c8 No.40655

>>40650

>It wasn't sarcasm.

It is, you sarcasm blind BO.

He obviously doesn't support (their) constant war on Islam as shown in his post (in spoilers) here >>40632

He's merely using the Israeli-Palestinian situation to compare to the Arab/African migrants displacing of native Europeans.

<we are not okay about A displacing B

<but we are okay about X displacing Y

See? Blatant hypocrisy.

>His ban appeal shows his true nature

Mind screencapping and show it to the rest of us, BO?

>That particular poster has contributed nothing to the board except insults and calling others "hypocrite"

I don't see any insults in these posts >>40632 >>40637 and calling out hypocrisy when there is blatant hypocrisy is wrong somehow?

>I have been very tolerant

<Insta-ban without warning is tolerant

Keep lying to yourself.

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1f32ef No.40656

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>>40655

>Mind screencapping and show it to the rest of us, BO?

Ok.

>I don't see any insults in these posts

You don't see all of his posts in every thread. I do.

>Insta-ban without warning

How do you know he hasn't been warned?

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c33ab6 No.40658

>>40656

So, what's wrong about that appeal?

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b59e4f No.40659

>>40658

Dude, can you read?

>You people (from the BO/mods to the regular posters) are nothing but hypocrites with a "holier than thou" attitude.

He clearly hates this board and everyone in it. The ban should have been permanent.

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c33ab6 No.40660

>>40659

Haha, if you think that this kind of criticism deserves permanent bans, maybe grow a thicker skin. He makes a comparison in the sense of 'how would you like it if it happened to you', gets banned for it and then criticises the hypocrisy of it. And somehow this reveals something about his nature? If you ban everyone who, maybe a little hotheaded, criticises you, all you do is to create a hugbox.

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99dcc2 No.40661

>>40660

The poster wasn't banned solely for that one post. It was the latest post in a long series of posts by that poster who contributed nothing to the board except insults aimed at other posters. One of the fundamental rules of this board is "attack the argument, not the poster". It has always been that way, since the day I created this board. However, I have never banned someone for insulting me personally. Frankly, I rarely ever post. I do not hand out bans lightly and, when I do, they are short bans for violations of the rules of the board.

>create a hugbox

That is literally what I created when I created this board. This board is literally a safe space for Muslims to discuss Islam in a familiar image board setting without having to be on constant defense. This board is not a "free speech zone" and it never has been. I have run it this way for nearly 6 years and will continue to do so because it works. Yes, there will be crybabies who can't handle the idea that they're not allowed to throw out insults and epithets and act like they do when they're on /pol/ or /b/; but I'm very good at ignoring crybabies. If you do not like this board or the way I run it, so be it. You have the option to claim an existing board or create your own.

That is all I will say on this matter.

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623ee9 No.40663

>>40652

>Many tribes can live on the same patch of dirt.

No they can't; either one tribe will rule over all the others or they'll be in conflict with each other. That's why there have always been borders and territories, these aren't even exclusive to humans.

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b59e4f No.40664

>>40663

>No they can't

They can, and do.

>there have always been borders and territories

MAN MADE. Allah has never drawn a border on a map.

>aren't even exclusive to humans

Meaningless. We are not animals.

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c33ab6 No.40665

>>40664

>Meaningless. We are not animals.

Yeah, we are.

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b59e4f No.40666

>>40665

We are above animals, not among them. The angels prostrated to Adam, not to a lowly beast.

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cfef25 No.42781

>>40637

not necessarily hypocrite, they just not aware that if their arguments were to be applied to something else it falls apart

it's called false dichotomy

then again I could also apply your own argument to yourself

if you think that manmade borders mean anything and you happen to live in the kafir country, then it means you have to protect the country even if it means fighting the Muslims, because chances are the Muslims are fighting against this kafir country, if you don't fight then it means you don't value the manmade borders

now, would you call yourself a hypocrite?

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