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Goodbye everyone!

037b1b No.43193

Salam, brothers and sister.

I have a question for you. Today I've read this fragment in Quran:

حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ، حَدَّثَنِي مَالِكٌ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ ـ رضى الله عنه أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم جَاءَهُ أَعْرَابِيٌّ فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّ امْرَأَتِي وَلَدَتْ غُلاَمًا أَسْوَدَ‏.‏ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ هَلْ لَكَ مِنْ إِبِلٍ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ نَعَمْ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ مَا أَلْوَانُهَا ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ حُمْرٌ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ فِيهَا مِنْ أَوْرَقَ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ نَعَمْ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَأَنَّى كَانَ ذَلِكَ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ أُرَاهُ عِرْقٌ نَزَعَهُ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَلَعَلَّ ابْنَكَ هَذَا نَزَعَهُ عِرْقٌ ‏"‏‏.‏

Why did Muhammad told a Bedouin so? Wasn't the poor Bedouin a victim of adultery?

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037b1b No.43194

not Quran, I mean Hadith

execuse me

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cc162d No.43196

>>43193

You should cite which hadith it's from and other relevant information. We're an English speaking board.

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80c712 No.43212

Narrated Abu Huraira:

A bedouin came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "My wife has delivered a black child." The Prophet (ﷺ) said to him, "Have you camels?" He replied, "Yes." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "What color are they?" He replied, "They are red." The Prophet (ﷺ) further asked, "Are any of them gray in color?" He replied, "Yes." The Prophet asked him, "Whence did that grayness come?" He said, "I thing it descended from the camel's ancestors." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) said (to him), "Therefore, this child of yours has most probably inherited the color from his ancestors."

-Sahih al-Bukhari 6847

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8d1733 No.43239

>>43193

A'isha RA reported: Sa'd b. Abu Waqqas and Abd b. Zam'a RA disputed with each other over a young boy. Sa'd said: Messenger of Allah, he is the son of my brother 'Utba b. Abu Waqqas as he made it explicit that he was his son. Look at his resemblance. Abd b. Zam'a said Messenger of Allah, he is my brother as he was born on the bed of my father from his slave-girl. Allah's Messenger PBUH looked at his resemblance and found a clear resemblance with 'Utba. (But) he said: He is yours 0 'Abd (b. Zam'a), for the child is to be attributed to one on whose bed it is born, and stoning for a fornicator. Sauda bint Zam'a, O you should observe veil from him. So he did not see Sauda at all. Muhammad b. Rumh did not make a mention (of the words):" O Abd." [Muslim 3435]

A hadith like this is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Uyaiyna and Ma'mar (and the words are): The child is attributed to him on whose bed he is born; but they did not mention this:" For a fornicator there is stoning." [Muslim 3436]

Abu Huraira RA reported Allah's Messenger PBUH as saying: The child is to be attributed to one on whose bed he is born, and for a fornicator there is stoning. [Muslim 3437]

A hadith like this is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira. [Muslim 3438]

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9b026b No.43262

>>43212

>>43193

I've seen this being thrown around on half-chan the past year, so I looked into this before. But what the half channers are implying is flawed, especially since it works on 2 assumptions:

>Arabs, (especially Arabs 1400 years ago) were white

>That "black" in the Arabic linguistic and cultural context of the time refers to black African that we refer to now.

I found this site before that did a good job at explaining it, white and light skin amongst arabs at the time was actually the exception, it was rare, darker skin, and 'jet black' skin was more of the norm. https://alajamwalarab.com/my-wifes-given-birth-to-a-jet-black-skinned-child/

So in this case, the issue was about the baby being dark skinned, not about the baby being black as in African, when we put it into perspective of todays western context. Now that we have the context its not out of the realm of possibility that this dark skinned trait could be hidden or recessive inheritance of the parents genes. This rather shows the complex understanding of heredity that our Prophet (SAW) had.

Compare this to people who would disown their child or kill them and their wife just because the kid has a different hair colour, like thats where the term "red headed step child" comes from, because they didn't understand that red hair is a recessive trait that can be hidden in the lineage, so they'd instead automatically assume its not his child.

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037b1b No.43269

>>43262

Ok, thank you brothers especially you, my friend.

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