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602abc No.29427

Muslims in the UK is increasing and alt media is angry about that. They're saying "Sharia will come to the UK" "terrorism will come to the UK" and still posting unauthentic parses.

Well, normally I don't care about /pol/tards but there is a huge amount of Muslims increasing in UK which means its something awesome, but they are sh*ting on it. We can't ignore it because those alt-twitter accounts will spread poltards' sh*ty opinions. There will be a "sh*t on Muslim" campaign. We can't stop it with posting replies of the truth on those threads because we will be ignored. We have to create our own thread, and anons in /Islam/ will support this thread. We have to show them the real Islam, we have to show them propagandas of Jewish media that used Isis etc. The real jihad is not with guns but with brains! This is what Islam says.

The first thing to do is creating our thread. Let's write together in this thread.

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0e9b91 No.29428

sorry I don't understand what you're asking.

what do you want from us?

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7dfeb1 No.29431

These are people who genuinely believe that the UK is an Islamic country, and that Germany is being ravaged by evil immigrants. They only believe things that back up their political ideology. They don't care about truth, and you'll just waste your time.

You're better off preaching to people who actually care.

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8b39c7 No.29432

>>29428

He's asking you to go to /pol/ and create a thread about /islam/ there.

>>29427

>a "sh*t on Muslim" campaign

If something like this will actually happen, it will simply backfire.

>We have to create our own thread, and anons in /Islam/ will support this thread.

You could try to do this, however /islam/ is a small community, and it will probably come down to people from /pol/ ☻ting all over this board.

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9fa06d No.29433

UK will always be Christian Yahweh is the one and only

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01b38e No.29435

>>29432

>He's asking you to go to /pol/ and create a thread about /islam/ there.

What a hassle.

>>29433

Religions go to die in the West.

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183a22 No.29439

>>29427

>Muslims in the UK is increasing

Good.

>alt media is angry about that

Who cares?

>I don't care about /pol/tards

Nobody does

>We have to create our own thread

You go right ahead, but we are not raiding /pol/.

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297f6e No.29440

The problem is most people in the UK find Islam to be as hilarious and childish as any other religion.

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a6c537 No.29443

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>>29439

pfft, I said "we can't ignore this time if we don't want the UK Muslims to get offended in social media"

>>29432

>he asked to go pol create a thread

No, I mean we'll create one thread that written by all of us. And others can back up the thread by defending it.

Don't be mad at me my brothers, we're just experienced and cultured internet users. I just thought we have to defend our religion if we can. Because there is a big propaganda runs against us by Jewish media and people believing anything. I thought trying to fixing the things for last time is harmless.

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183a22 No.29444

>>29443

Anything we say on /pol/, even verified facts, they will say it's taqqiya and completely disregard it. They've been brainwashed by their own narrative. Fortunately, there are very, very few of them. We have no cause to worry.

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5ab7cf No.29446

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>there are very very few of them, we have no cause to worry

I recommend you to visit Twitter or Reddit next time my brother

I wrote this, there are too many bad words in it because you have to speak with pol's language when you speak with them.

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Muslo anon here. As I see in this thread and previous threads that opened since years, you ☻s literally don't know ☻ about İslam. I'll try to clear things and redpill you about the real Islam.

Who is controlling media? ☻ing Jews. Who are the archenemy of the Jews in history and today? Muslims. Media tried to ☻ on Muslims. They used Bin Ladin to show "jihad" ☻ to all world first, but we all know that /pol/ know that: 9/11 was just a big scenario.

They created Isis after that, another jihadi organization which says "believe me l'm Muslim" They killed Turks which are the real Muslims, they ☻ing hit bottom at that moment. At the same time, they were terrorists exploding, terrorizing in Paris in different countries that costumed like a random Arab person (they also failed about clothing because only Arabs wear those black hijabs, and men wear kippah. It's part of Arab culture) Those terrorists got no history, they are just appearing or changing their personality like hypnotized, in minutes. Because they're growing up for those days or selected. After that, they ☻ing success with it, now Muslims in all world were terrorists.

I'm a Turkish Muslim and all of our citizens think isis is ☻ed up and they are not even Muslims. Isis is also managed by the USA to undermine Iraq and Isis.

The other thing is Islam's nature. In Islam, you can't kill. Everything is between people and god. Verses you show against those are unauthentic and fabrication. You ☻s posting verses that say "Muhammad (sav) was a pedophile" "kill the fags with rocks" "women are created to serve men", and they are from Qur'an (the book you never even read) huh? Every real Muslim knows that they are not even real. They're created to deform Islam by bigots aka Jews.

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This is what I wrote, it's uncompleted, fix the wrongs and continue the post if you agree with it. "why immigrants are a rapist then" is a good topic to continue.

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7dfeb1 No.29447

>>29446

They hate Turks over there. I appreciate what you're trying to do but the only response you'll get is

>turkroach

followed by ☻posting.

The problem here is that their ideology goes against Islam in so many ways. To them it is their religion. When they see a religion that doesn't discriminate based on race, and which actually helps people less fortunate, they see it as evil.

There is still some use in posting there, but not in the way you'd expect. If you can cram your arguments into small, catchy soundbytes, they'll spend more time trying to refute arguments than you do by making them. If you want to mess up their safe space it's the best way to do it. Here's some if you need them:

>Nobody can beat the Quran's challenge to make a book like it.

In case they bring up the attempt from the end of last year, it falls flat in the first sentence. It spells words wrong to make them rhyme

>Islam is the only religion where God is actually all-powerful

Only other properly monotheistic religion is Judaism, and according to them God left the Rabbis in charge

>Muslims actually know how to wipe their assholes

>Muslims captured Jerusalem without even starting a fight. Crusaders did it by slaughtering everyone

>Islam is the fastest growing religion

If you need more inspiration check out the Yaqeen Institute, and a Youtuber named Asadullah Ali.

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ae79bb No.29451

>>29446

/pol/ etc. are the very same "jews" and "media" that are lying and slandering Islam in an organized and deliberate fashion. They're not just some innocent and sincere truth-seeking, but mislead, people that will listen to your reasoning.

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183a22 No.29453

>>29447

Well, I suppose at least we can now post there without getting an 88 year long ban.

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a6c537 No.29465

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>>29447

that's an awesome post anon! May Allah bless you. I think I'll convert my long post into green text and add yours.

But there is a second problem coming. The most materials /pol/ using are immigrants that do crimes. You all know most of those statistics are fake and part of the "barbarian Muslim campaign". What to say about immigrants? What do you know /islam/ ?

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b5acae No.29471

>>29440

And then 5 years later they take their shahadda

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b5acae No.29472

>>29443

You will be banned instantly, there are far better places to raid and you don't understand how to conduct a board raid at all.

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b5acae No.29473

Go collect some dank memes, then come back and we can discuss a psyop.

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7dfeb1 No.29480

>>29465

You could check out Pew Research and Gallup, if you need hard numbers to back any arguments. There's also the Wikipedia article on immigration and crime if you want more sources.

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01b38e No.29482

OP just make a twitter account and "educate" and get mad at people you disagree with.

And fyi /pol/ and /islam/ are not mutually exclusive, its actually a decent news/history source despite some of their rhetoric

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af1b4c No.29483

>>29427

>The real jihad is not with guns but with brains! This is what Islam says.

No lol.

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords."

Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,- 4:95

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2e452d No.29659

>>29465

>>29480

Immigration isn't an issue that has anything to do with Islam. Just because many of these migrants come from Muslim-majority countries doesn't mean we have to defend them.

Uncontrolled mass migration is objectively a problem (both socially and economically) and a lot of these migrants do go to these countries and engage in haram activities against the disbelievers (rape, crime, terrorism). The kuffar have their right to manage these problems, as long as they don't use this as excuse to engage in hostile actions against the Ummah. As long as they don't go knocking down mosques, I don't care if they don't want immigrants. I can honestly understand where they coming from, I wouldn't want a bunch of christians coming to a Muslim country and raping, stealing and leeching of welfare state.

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ae79bb No.29660

>>29659

>I wouldn't want a bunch of christians coming to a Muslim country and raping, stealing

You mean the exact same thing they've been doing for centuries and STILL continue to?

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2e452d No.29661

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183a22 No.29662

>>29659

Indeed, those whom the angels take [in death] while wronging themselves - [the angels] will say, "In what [condition] were you?" They will say, "We were oppressed in the land." The angels will say, "Was not the earth of Allah spacious [enough] for you to emigrate therein?" For those, their refuge is Hell - and evil it is as a destination. [4:97]

Further, since Adam came from Heaven to Earth, we are all immigrants. This world, this life, is a temporary refuge.

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2727bc No.29672

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>>29662

>>29659

>>29480

>>29465

>Just because many of these migrants come from Muslim-majority countries doesn't mean we have to defend them.

t. /pol/ pretender

Look. Muslims have more rights than kuffar. If a Muslim wants to immigrate somewhere, you should never side with non Muslims. In my opinion immigrating elsewhere is only not ideal because it is bad to live among nonbelievers, but if somebody is saving their young vulnerable family and wife from violence and hardship than so be it.

>I wouldn't want a bunch of christians coming to a Muslim country and raping, stealing and leeching of welfare state

They do exactly this when they invade and murder and destroy with air force. They take resources at a heavy "discount" to pretend it is not despotic plunder.

You clearly have an anxiety against anyone with a darker skin color. If you love people with light skin and perfect teeth and 'well-adjusted' manners so much then why don't you move into an old folks home if you desire comfort.

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2e452d No.29673

>>29662

Understand the content of the verse before applying your own ideas on to it.

bitDOTly/2zn5VKs (this is link to fatwa explaining the verse)

>Further, since Adam came from Heaven to Earth, we are all immigrants

I don't oppose immigration. You didn't seem to understand context of my post.

>This world, this life, is a temporary refuge.

So?

>>29672

>/pol/ pretender

ad hominem, also I am Muslim

>Muslims have more rights than kuffar

If you are referring to part I said "kuffar have their right to manage these problems", they have the "right" due to the fact that they control the land. If you want to change it go conquer them.

>Muslims have more rights than kuffar

And these lands they immigrate to are Dar al-Kufr, they impose their manmade law and not Sharia.

>If a Muslim wants to immigrate somewhere, you should never side with non Muslims

I'm not siding with anyone, its not our problem if a kufr regime implements immigration policies.

>but if somebody is saving their young vulnerable family and wife from violence and hardship than so be it

My point isn't about refugees but there are multiple Muslim countries that house refugees, and most of these migrants aren't refugees but economic migrants coming from countries that aren't even at war. Vast majority of them are also young men between 18 and 35.

>They do exactly this when they invade and murder and destroy with air force

Do I deny that? No. But that does not justify "Muslims" going to those countries either and engaging in haram acts.

>You clearly have an anxiety against anyone with a darker skin color If you love people with light skin and perfect teeth and 'well-adjusted' manners so much then why don't you move into an old folks home if you desire comfort

reddit-tier ad hominem

First of all, you do not seem to understand the logistics of migration in the modern world. Do you agree with allowing millions of people into your country without checks or without documentation and allow them to freely roam around your state?

Also do you hate white people? The Prophet (peace be upon him) light skinned according to many sahih hadith. There not multiple light skinned Muslims among Arabs, Persians, Central Asians, Turks, Bosniaks, Caucasians.

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c5f657 No.29680

>>29673

>I'm not siding with anyone, its not our problem if a kufr regime implements immigration policies.

Okay, so why are you complaining ? ?

>My point isn't about refugees but there are multiple Muslim countries that house refugees, and most of these migrants aren't refugees but economic migrants coming from countries that aren't even at war. Vast majority of them are also young men between 18 and 35.

Look, everything is economics. Every time you do anything, it is economics. Power is energy. Literally energy. Path of least resistance et cetera… Yes, many of them will be young men. Men typically are the ones, like deer, that are expected to emigrate from the herd so to say in search of new territory. Since they are men, any western bride they take will have to convert. This is a favorable circumstance.

>Do I deny that? No. But that does not justify "Muslims" going to those countries either and engaging in haram acts.

You are watching too many cherrypicked videos of Malmo Sweden. Not everybody is a literal somalian pirate. Many are not even Muslims to begin with. So do not judge the misdeeds of a few apostates by blaming immigrants.

>reddit-tier ad hominem

Look, it is true. A good indicator of whether you really believe is if you can look past our cultural differences.

>Do you agree with allowing millions of people into your country without checks or without documentation and allow them to freely roam around your state?

If they are Muslims then I welcome it.

>Also do you hate white people? The Prophet (peace be upon him) light skinned according to many sahih hadith. There not multiple light skinned Muslims among Arabs, Persians, Central Asians, Turks, Bosniaks, Caucasians.

I am white. I am the complete opposite of a self hating white, too. But like you said, there is tremendous diversity within the Muslim world. We can appreciate all cultures and all cultures have their right to manage their territory but should also be respectful of their fellow Muslims. There are many darker skinned people like some Pakis, Hazaras, Pashtuns, Marathis, Indonesians, Thai, Maghrebis, Sahrawi, Baloch etc… in varying degrees.

If you focus on just near easterners and Europeans you are never going to connect with people. Our religion is universal and applies to everyone. You are probably nervous about race and IQ which is definitely not something people ignore in real life, but when does it actually matter? IQ will not save you from economic sanctions and starving or being killed by some despot like Assad. People in poorer and Muslim countries have more children and this is a good thing, because they will retain the Muslim lands but have enough children to send off elsewhere as well. It will be to the benefit to the Europeans as well if some Muslims take brides and increase their birth rates. It is a win-win. I do not care what happens to Europeans. They can convert (many have) if they are wise enough. Otherwise I care nothing about them,

Sorry for wall of text. And don't take this too harsh, it's just conversation and observation.

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c5f657 No.29681

>>29659

+also I should add, they ARE knocking down mosques.

>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44410597

>Austria to shut seven 'political' mosques and expel imams

So not only are they removing a place of worship, but EXPELLING learned scholars of Islam. So Muslims in these countries will have to pray alone and lack community and become assimilated.

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2e452d No.29683

>>29680

Look brother, you are right. From how I speak in this thread, I may have sounded like /pol/ raider who hates blacks, brown people, etc. I don't care about these kufr regimes honestly, may Allah punish some of their leaders when time comes. I believe that everyone should have right to live wherever they want on Earth, I am not racist /pol/ack either who believes in racial supremacy or anything either. I am actually ethnic mix myself (although I am white skinned) of middle eastern and european (my mother is revert).

My original point was reply to someone saying we should defend immigrants in Europe (maybe I misunderstood what he said) and I thought why should we waste effort trying to defend them when many are just apostates and criminals (obviously majority are good). There are far more pressing matters for Ummah. Every current Muslim-majority country is plauged with corruption and rising apostasy. Rohingyas, Uyghurs, Palestians, Syrians are all facing problems under kufr regimes. Now there is even news that Tatars in Russian-controlled Crimea are facing problems.

Sorry if I sound hostile

>>29681

I forgot about this news, but it is sad

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e8a1c5 No.30626

>>29471

Every cent of jizya we waste on your welfare checks will one day be extracted from you again, with interest greater than you could imagine.

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780850 No.43082

I read that the American secret intellegence agency's are planning to cause rifts in the muslim community in the U.S after explaining that islam "is not an religion"

America is really the devil in an angel suit. They also have an weapon called the voice of god weapon wich lets them fool muslims in to believing god is talking to them directly.

May Allah help us against the schemers and plotters

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623e6c No.43083

>>43082

Your paranoia cult tactics won't work on this board. We're not the smooth brained channers you're used to. Try /pnd/. They'll believe anything you tell them.

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