/islam/ - 8kun Masjid

>>39596

But fasting is a specific act of ibadah that needs the correct intention. So is it haram to do it if the intention one has is to lose weight rather than simply worshiping Allah?

>>39597

If you fast or watch your calories in a healthy way it's not haram, but you will not get any benefit if your intention is not for Allah (SWT).

>>39572

I wasn't expecting any help tbqh but jazakallah khair,akhi

>>39584

They can stay even if they don't "assimilate" I assume you meant convert. Conversion is the automatic result of living under an Islamic state for the long term (due to soceitial reasons as well the jizya/zakat system)

>>39597

Sometimes there is an akhiri and dunyi benefit of something at the same time.

>>39569

Being a namefig makes you a bad person.

>>39609

Kek. I wrote that and forgot after a kharaji began accusing me of hopping IPs to make it look like I was multiple people

>>39629

Why do you keep asking stupid questions?

I joined the Muslim Student Association at my university, but apparently most of the people in it aren't even Muslim and they just let anyone join. Is this a bad sign?

>>39633

>most of the people in it aren't even Muslim and they just let anyone join

So, anyone can become Muslim

>>39633

Islam is not an exclusive secret club.

>>39634

>>39636

I know that, but I just feel like an organization made for Muslims shouldn't be dominated by non-Muslims, especially in an area like my own where Muslims aren't treated/viewed well and where there aren't a lot of us. Can you see where I'm coming from?

>>39637

Well, any Muslim organization should be like the mosque. Muslims should be in charge, but everybody is welcome.

>>39637

If the actual officers of the MSA are non-Muslim that is a problem. Non-Muslim allies are ok but they need to fill a support role, not leadership.

Not /islam/ related but I'd like to have my brothers' opinion.

What do you think of the >redpill threads such as 'Beaver on[media revolution language etc.]' threads and a few others? Are they somehow reliable for seeking the truth? I admit being fairly young to form correct views on different aspects of the society/world , but I cannot help but browse 8/pol/ for that matter, which I don't want to do.

i belive iran is to be attacked soon by the jew and its puppets, i am not a muslim but would like to go there and help defend them, what do you think anons? good idea or nay…

>>39665

If it's on /pol/, it is wrong. Any opinions /pol/ has are wrong. Any facts /pol/ disseminates are incorrect. If you read about it on /pol/, then it is most likely falsehoods.

>>39666

>I believe

Stop right there. What you believe doesn't matter.

>but would like to

Iran doesn't take foreign recruits

>>39665

4chan /pol/ used to be ok but ever since the 2016 election it got flooded with MAGApedes and the 8chan /pol/ became an exclusive BS club.

If you have any questions on politics then head on over to our politics thread or better yet, an actual reputable Islamic Political Analyst.

>>39666

Iran is an enemy to sunni muslims and has no qualms in allying with America to invade the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and has no problem in supporting a genocidal tyrant in Syria (ironic considering their entire ideology is centred around a rebellion against a Syrian tyrant)

>>39665

The /pol/ beaver guy seems intelligent because he is relatively knowledgeable but his conclusions are usually wrong because many of his points are only half-truths. At best they are only surface intellectuals, making it impossible to rely upon it alone as a source of information. Some of them act like they are well read, but that is very questionable. Once I saw Bilial Philips 'The Fundamentals of Tawhid" in one of their book collections under the section "idolotry in major religions."

>>39688

>>39688

It is not from Islam it is true. I personally dont mind it though as it became a symbol of us whether we like it or not. It’s not like we hang that in our mosques or anything, it is on top of some minarets and is really more of a political symbol and suggests pro-Ottomanism sometimes.

>>39688

Like christians get emo about “oooh the cross the cross!!” but with jew star and the “islamic crescent” muslims and jews are just like “oh yeah, that’s our flag, ok.”

Why hasnt there been a Caliph since 1924 and what is the significance of this?

>>39688

It's earliest appearance is from the time of the sahabah because the Sassanians used it on their coins and muslims up until the time of Khalifah Abdul Malik bin Marwan imitated the sassanian style of coinage.

Pic realted,these are the coins of Muawiya RA, Abdullah bin Zubair, and Yazid (note the crescent and star on their heads)

However it has only become associated with Islam in the last 500 years because the Ottomans used it on their flag (it's a Turkish symbol) and when Pan Islamism began to appear at the end of 19th century the Ottoman flag became a symbol of muslim unity because it was the last major Islamic empire standing as well as the last dynasty to claim the Caliphate. That is also why you'll find muslim freedom fighters and revolutionaries of the early 20th century often wore the Fez even in places like the subcontinent where the Ottomans were never directly in control nor had a major cultural influence until the reign of Sultan Abdul Hamid

>>39693

The Caliph is the leader of the Muslim Ummah. He is not similar to the Pope in the religious functions but serves a more worldly function of ruling as the Vice regent of Allah on Earth. The Caliphate system initially functioned as an oligarchy where the Caliph was not an autocrat and was answerable to the muslims. Later on however the Caliphate turned inti a dynastic empire and it is generally agreed that there have been only a handful of legitimate caliphs (the First 4 and Umar bin Abdul Aziz).

The Ottomans had the weakest claim on the Caliphate of the 3 sunni dynsties that were recognized world wide. That is because according to most muslim scholars the Caliph must be from the Quraish tribe and the Ottomans were from the Kayi clan of the Oghuz, additionally they were neither elected by a shura nor freely appointed by the previous Caliph since they took the title by force when they invaded Egypt. The Function of the Ottoman Caliph was largely symbolic and propagandist. The reason why the abolition of the Caliphate is seen as such a trauma by some muslims is because it symbolized the end of the last major muslim power capable of declaring war on the colonial powers as well as a loss of hope in an Islamic Revival and Liberation promised by Sultan Abdul Hamid.

Tl;dr The Caliph is the sole ruler of a single united muslim nation and thus a symbol of Unity

>>39693

There is a Caliph since 2014.

>>39777

You really ask some remarkably stupid questions.

>>39777

tight pants, what the avg european zommer wears yes, they do make men look feminine

>>39777

tight jeans makes ur balls hot

>>39777

Yes, I hate wearing trousers, it's super hard to find ones that both don't cause me pain in certain positions and don't sag. I wish I could go to work in a thobe.

>>39783

Pants are worn under a thobe.

Are vasectomy's halal?

>>39794

Yep. As long as it's reversible, it's fine. Same with a woman getting her tubes tied. Birth control is permitted in Islam. We're not Catholics.

>>39786

I only wear those pants in winter. basketball shorts the rest the time.

>>39802

Crusading white race defenders look like THAT?

>>39802

It's not about race or religion. Some people are just violent.

Is veganism halal?

When I was still a "christian" I learned that pigs and dogs had the same amount of intelligence and I learned that the animals we eat are not raised on wholesome farms but in factories.

I'm still a vegan because I highly doubt the butchers in my country say the name of God every time they slice an animals throat.

>>39812

>is veganism halal

It is if it is personal preference and not because you find eating meat immoral. Because the best man, Rasoolullah ate meat and no one is more morally correct than him. There are muslim vegans who eat Qurbani on Eid al Adha out of respect for the Sunnah.

>>39812

>I'm still a vegan because I highly doubt the butchers in my country say the name of God every time they slice an animals throat.

You don't have to doubt, if they didn't then the sin is upon them and not you, if it's written halal, you can eat it and if the manufactured lied the sin is 100% on them not you. You must believe a muslim which says a food is halal slaughter at face value, no need for proof.

>When I was still a "christian" I learned that pigs and dogs had the same amount of intelligence and I learned that the animals we eat are not raised on wholesome farms but in factories.

That happens, but it doesn't mean all meat is slaughtered in a cruel way, if you know a halal butcher or factory, then it's fine to eat from it.

Meat itself will always be halal, and you can switch diets for health reasons, but not moral ones. Saying slaughtering animals is immoral or wrong is kufr, one who says this has left the fold of Islam, as Allah (SWT) says animals are for food, and many prophets slaughtered animals for food. Not to mention during eid, we sacrifice a an animal as charity and eat it to celebrate.

>>38334

>if I convert

So, not Muslim

>>39214

>When I was a Disciple of Christ

So, no longer Christian

>>39260

>masturbate by humping my mattress

o_O

>>39419

>the majority of people in hell are woman

That explains the mattress humping ...

>>39542

>about to go to Bible study

Wait, I thought you weren't Christian.

>>39552

>They don't know I'm Muslim

When the hell did that happen?!

>>39812

>I'm still a vegan

...

So, you're a mattress humping vegan ex-Christian non-Muslim Muslim who goes to Bible study, hates women, and doesn't seem to realize that this board has IDs.

>>39817

Yes, I need help

>>39818

stop mattress humping it can rly damage ur tip

stop going to bible study

eat meat

actually practice islam

>>39699

Thanks for your explanation, so would it be correct to say that bar some kind of EU style Islamic union or a Muslim state that has China tier power we wont be seeing any Caliph anytime soon?

Is the Quraish requirement something done for symbolism or is there something particularly special about these people?

>>39874

Well ISIS claimed the Caliphate whereas the Taliban also took the title of Amir ul Mumineen (Leader of the Faithful) which was the title of the Caliphs from the second caliph onwards but yeah we won't be having a legally recognized caliphate anytime soon. Since we haven't had one for nearly 1300 years.

According to Sheikh Ibn Khaldun the father of the philosophy of history said that Muhammad PBUH was only talking about his own time when he said the Leader of the muslims must be from the Quraish since the Arabs of the time used to view the Quraish as the most noble and elevated of the Arabs and thus wouldn't obey any other tribe but the majority of muslims and scholars believe the Caliph must be from the Quraish. Quraishis are descendants of a man from the Ishmaelite Arabs (Descendents of Ishmael son of Abraham) who supposedly united the ishmaelite in the Hejaz region a century or more before Muhammad PBUH. He himself doesn't hold much significance in Islam but his progeny formed the "elite" in the early years of Islam and were the earliest followers of Muhammad PBUH plus his own tribe.

>>39885

>ISIS

>the Taliban also took the title of Amir ul Mumineen

The king of Morocco is also called this. And it could be considered polite to address a Sunni king or president like this but they dont ask to be called it.

>>39888

I was just mentioning the claimants. And the title of Amir ul Mumineen has historically carried the implication of the Caliphate which is why no sunni orthodox monarch used that title within the middle east until after 1258.

Mullah Muhammad Umar quite clearly had a ceremony where he adorned the alleged Mantle of the Prophet PBUH and was proclaimed the Amir ul Mumineen by the Shura and it's often interpreted by sympathisers as being something akin to the black standards of khorasam who'll assist the Mahdi and Jesus AS in the end times.

>>39917

I read that he got a dream from the prophet (SAW) that he will eliminate shirk & corruption in Afghanistan, pre emirate years. Few years later he got into power and cleansed it of bacha bazi and destroyed the mushriq bhudda idol. Rahimahullah, I believe he was a wali of Allah (SWT).

>>39874

Realistically we might see an afghan & pakistan islamic state, which would be a combination of resource rich and strategic afghanistan + nuke power and sea ports of pakistan. Making it a regional power with influence in central asia and india. Probably could make china stop oppressing uyghurs, and offer some education and help to uyghurs, but they will need china for economic, military and technological cooperation against the west. As the west would immediately sanction any country which declares a caliphate, pakistan can't be bombed tho since their nukes are a protective deterrent to the west and india. I think this because many of the elites in pakistan's army (defacto rulers) are pan islamist, and pan islamists are also winning in afghanistan. Tajikistan might also be integrated in such an islamic state.

>>39874

Or turkey might get taken by actual pro sharia islamists, not moderate AKP ikhwanists.

Or ISIL could expand in saudi arabia during a potential saudi iran war.

These are the 3 possibilities I see for a near term caliphate. Whether muslims accept it is another question, most muslims maybe wouldn't be ready to leave the comfortable west for a poorer but more pious life in a caliphate around muslims. But I see the pan islamic nostalgia spreading in islamic circles.

>>39927

* ikhwanists = muslim brotherhood

>>39926

He saw Afghanistan in the shape of a woman orderering him to take up the banner of jihad. He also started the Taliban initially to rescue the children of his village from bacha baz warlords. It grew from there. He also ended all opium growing in one year without force. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is the best example of the Sharia being the best functioning system.

>>19586

What's /islam/'s take on euthanasia?

>>39959

Destroy not yourselves. Surely Allah is ever merciful to you. [4:29]

>>39959

The youth in Asia should be given dawa.

>>39966

>>39967

There are too many variables involved. Are you signed into Google when you search? Are you searching incognito mode? Are you using a VPN? All of these things change the search parameters.

>>39970

Fascinating, but there's nothing we can do about it.

>>39966

comes up fine for me on google akh

google just shows you what it thinks you want based on how you use it

>>39959

And do not kill yourselves [or one another]. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.

[Quran 4:29]

>>40031

Wearing gold is haram, even if it is in a watch.

>wealth of the kuffar is 100% halal to take

This was on the battlefield. Stealing from disbelievers is not allowed everywhere you go.

>taking the money of the kaffir work mules

Muslims pay taxes too. Taking money that the government gives you, and then sitting on your butt doing nothing all day is not taking Jizya. That is absurd. Taking welfare benefits is similar to begging.

A man from the Ansar came to the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, and begged from him. The Prophet said, “Have you nothing in your house?” The man said, “Yes, a piece of cloth, a part of which we wear and a part of which we spread on the ground, and a wooden bowl from which we drink water.” The Prophet said, “Bring them to me.” The man brought these articles to him and the Prophet took them in his hands and he said, “Who will buy these?” Someone said, “I will buy them for one coin.” The Prophet said twice or thrice, “Who will offer more than one coin?” Someone said, “I will buy them for two coins.” He sold them for two coins and the Prophet said, “Buy food with one of them and give it to your family. Buy an axe and bring it to me.” The man brought it to him. The Prophet fixed a handle on it with his own hands and he said, “Go gather firewood and sell it, and do not let me see you for a fortnight.” The man went away and gathered firewood and sold it. When he had earned ten coins, he came and bought a garment and food. The Prophet said, “This is better for you than for begging to come as a blemish on your face on the Day of Resurrection. Begging is only appropriate for three people: one in grinding poverty, one in serious debt, and one who must pay a difficult compensation.”

>>40033

True, I shouldn't have used the word jizyah, as it is not accurate. More like take their money because they take ours with neo-colonialism.

>>40035

>even if it is in a watch

its not in the watch, just colored

>Taking welfare benefits is similar to begging.

except welfare is not at the mercy of anyone, its just taking money from the workers pockets

>>40038

You have to apply for welfare. You are applying for free money that is taken from people who are working (against their will). The taxes that they give to the government are given to you. It is like begging except that the people that you are taking the money from don’t have a choice about whether to give you the money or not. You just take it, using the government as an intermediary. The hadith >>40035 is very clear that it is better to work for your income, not to take money from others while not working.

>>40040

>You are applying for free money that is taken from people who are working (against their will).

yup, not begging, but taking by force

>>40040

>it is better to work for your income, not to take money from others while not working.

True, in a muslim society. Not in a harbi state.

>>40042

>yup, not begging, but taking by force

Non-Muslims do not have a monopoly on paying taxes. Everyone that has a job and actually works for their income does this, including Muslims. You aren't taking it by force, you are asking the government for it and the harbi state is taking it by force for you.

>True, in a muslim society. Not in a harbi state.

I gave the evidence that it was better to work for your income than to take money for doing nothing here >>40035. To say that there are exceptions to this general principle you need to provide proof. You aren’t going to find any proof of this from the Quran and Sunnah, because there is a general prohibition of Muslims living in the lands of the non-Muslims. That doesn’t mean that when Muslims do live among non-Muslims, all the principles and rules become invalidated and Muslims can do whatever they want because they aren’t living under a government ruling by the Sharia. When the government does not enforce the Sharia on the people, individual Muslims have to act according the Islamic principles wherever they are.

>>40047

That board looks like a trojan horse for secularism and the promotion of sin.

>>40048

Rainbow Quran is for kids. Homo Pedos in the West stole a children’s symbol.

>>40044

>Everyone that has a job and actually works for their income does this, including Muslims.

Yes and that's fine, their wealth is haram anyways and they will pay taxes to the kaffir anyways, so why can't a muslim benefit from it?

>you are asking the government for it and the harbi state is taking it by force for you.

Yup, ultimately the kaffir forces another kaffir to pay me at the end of a gun, this is force and I'm willing to accept if they insist.

>When the government does not enforce the Sharia on the people, individual Muslims have to act according the Islamic principles wherever they are.

True, but I know that when in a harbi state, such as the west, it is allowed to take from the wealth of the kafiroon. As such, working your a** off to make your enemies richer is not allowed, its actually haram to work for kaffirs who fight us. Only a bluepill cuck would be a "productive" member in western society, as it only benefits kaffirs mostly and their war machine. You should in fact, take a peaceful way to drain their resources, which is welfare / handouts. Like the somalians are doing in sweden.

>>40051

>>40051

How is Sweden at war with muslims? They take in muslim refugees and are a decent country.

>>40048

Someone could take over the board and made a thread explaining the beliefs of the Quranists and why they are wrong, then made a thread explaining how hadith were collected and authenticated. The board wouldn’t need to have regular postings, but if a ‘modernist’ Muslim stumbled upon the board they would see that the things the Quranists and modernists say are wrong.

>>40051

>so why can't a muslim benefit from it?

I’m not saying that they can’t. I am saying it is better to work for your money than to take handouts.

>this is force and I'm willing to accept if they insist.

They don’t insist that people take every kind of public assistance. You have to apply for some of them. You still aren’t giving any evidence from the Quran and Sunnah that there is an exception to the hadith >>40035. Following the hadith of the Prophet PBUH does not make someone a “bluepill cuck.”

>Like the somalians are doing in sweden

Do you get your news from /pol/?

I am seriously considering becoming a Muslim, but do I really have to get rid of my dogs? I read an response on islamqa to a person who said that although they had a dog they’d never get another after it died, but the response told them they’d have to get rid of it. Even if that was something I’d be willing to do I’d be living in a family with me as the only Muslim so that would be impossible anyway

>>40054

>I am seriously considering becoming a Muslim, but do I really have to get rid of my dogs?

No, but it would be best if your dogs are kept in a climate controlled kennel. Dogs are for hunting and racing not being kept inside houses as furbabies where they make a mess. I’m muslim and I took care of my neighbor’s show dogs for years when they were away. They were airedale terriers and the idea of ever letting them in their pristine home would have been absurd.

https://youtu.be/KB8ylY2edA0

>>40054

You can keep your dogs. You just have to make sure to clean a lot.

>>40054

Oh, and islamqa is one perspective. it is not the definitive answer. Do more research, but do not hesitate to become Muslim.

>>40055

>>40056

>>40057

(it appears my ID will change)

Thank you for the quick answers. I’ll keep researching this issue and keep exploring Islam.

>>40052

NATO

>>40053

>I am saying it is better to work for your money than to take handouts.

I agree but only in islamic lands.

>>40054

Adoption or sell them.

>>40054

Don’t let the issue about dogs stop you from becoming Muslim. Keeping dogs is not a barrier stopping someone from accepting Islam. There are Muslims that keep dogs as pets, even though it is disliked. Try to learn more about the basics of Islam, read the Quran, learn about the life of the Prophet PBUH, etc. first, before focusing on the more obscure issues. Drinking alcohol and eating pork are strictly prohibited, keeping dogs is not, it is only disliked and not recommended.

>>40059

>I agree but only in islamic lands.

Provide proof for this. General Islamic principles do not change when you live outside of Islamic lands. The only issue I can think of that changes is that Muslim men are no longer allowed to marry Christians or Jews. They can only do this in Muslim countries.

You aren't allowed to immigrate to non-Muslim countries for worldly reasons and then act like you are taking over Europe by sitting on your ass all day doing nothing and collecting welfare, thinking it is justifiable because it will destabilize the EU economically. Thinking you are doing something productive with your life and insulting Muslims who work hard to try and support their families when anyone who does this is actually just a lazy, worthless idiot with delusions of grandeur.

>Adoption or sell them.

Selling dogs is prohibited.

Abu Juhayfah said: The Prophet PBUH forbade the price of a dog. [Sahih Bukhaari 1944]

>>40054

You don't have to fet rid of it you just have to keep it outside your house like in the backyard or in a doghouse.

I've had a guard dogs all my life and we always kept them in their enclosure in the lawn.

>>40061

Don't you know that when your at war with a harbi state, their wealth is halal as ghaneema?

>>40063

Stupid /pol/ incels doing it again. Seriously CIA FBI should investigate them more than muslims, they are 10x worst when it comes to killing. White supremacists are a greater danger to all mankind because of racism. What a stupid ideology, imagine killing ppl for their color of their skin. This is satanic.

>>40064

And in winter?

>>40063

Just another day in paradise …

>>40063

Kafr killing kafr. So what?

>>40071

Kuffaar are obsessed with “muslims fighting eachother” overseas but they are blind to the christian on christian violence in their own countries. And while I condemn all senseless violence, including xian on xian slaughter, I must say my relief that this was not a muslim shooter and not a mosque targeted far outweighs any other feelings. And I dont forget the open gloating that many christians did after the shooting in NZ. The christian right in America were very very happy.

>>40071

He was a supporter of Breton Torrent, the guy who killed 50 Muslims in New Zealand. He says that other people ideologically similar to him (8ch /pol/) should go after soft targets, where people will not defend themselves. Maybe you haven’t noticed, but Muslims are 8ch /pol/’s enemy #1. This is an example of how important it is for Muslims to get concealed carry permits and come up with other ways of defending Mosques from people like this. If these people even suspect that they are going after armed Muslims, they will run away pissing their pants.

>>40074

You're telling us stuff we already know and discussed after the NZ shooting. We're not interested in every little soyboy with a rifle getting mad at brown people and making the news. We're not /pol/.

>>40071

Of course we are happy kaffirs are killing each other. Just a reminder to muslims, this will happen more frequently and they seek soft targets so get armed and put up armed signs in mosques so they know.

I will say to muslims in the USA, you have an right to guns the majority of muslims do not, so please be an example for these incels and use it.

>>40078

That is a possibility, but I haven't been able to find anything about Syed Saleh. I do find it interesting that the shooter's sister, Megan, is one of the victims. I strongly suspect that she was the intended target.

>>40078

Where does it say it's a bar.

>>40079

Try Saeed Saleh

wow 2 mass shootings within 24 hours, another day in the united states of barbaria

>>40080

I live in Dayton, OH. The establishment named in the news is a bar. Ned Peppers is a popular bar in downtown. But the shooting didn't happen in the bar, it happened in the area around the bar. One of the dead victims is the shooter's sister and she was most likely the target. The shooter tried to enter the bar, but was stopped by multiple people.

Another one

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Mass-Shooting-Near-Douglas-Park-Playground-Police-518001731.html

>>40080

>Try Saeed Saleh

I've been looking under various spellings and can't find anything. The local news has done pieces on a couple of the other victims, but nothing about Saleh has come up yet. I called a couple of local mosques and nobody recognizes the name.

>>40083

>chicago

Sorry, doesn’t count.

I missed you guys. Alhamdulillah /islam/ is back. What have you been doing in the meantime? I've finally began to learn some basic Arabic so that I can read the Qur'an exactly how it was revealed to Muhammad pbuh

>>40086

Still going to be a bit before we're fully back, but we have this for now!

Runnin' slow as grandpa's morning piss right now, but it's here!

Neat.

TOR ID = 000000

LokiNet ID = 111111

Salam brothers, I am able to post now here.

>>40095

It's slow, but it's getting better.

>>40096

It doesn't help that the clearnet site keeps going down and changing domains. Most people won't use TOR.

>>40096

It doesn't help that the clearnet site keeps going down and changing domains. Most people won't use TOR.

>>40100

>Most people won't use TOR

That's because a lot of people are under the mistaken impression that it's as complex to setup as it was 10-12 years ago.

Is this board dead ?

First off, I missed you bros.

Secondly;

What is the opinion here on the Tafhim-ul-Quran?

I've been reading it the past month, and it has been really enlightening.

>>40106

It's good to be back!

>>40107

The jihadi/wahabi/salafi of this board will come screaming and kvetching and crying as soon as they figure out where we are.

>>40106

I like the Tafhim. I own the abridged version and have read from the unabridged version in my university's library. It is very helpful

So what kind of enlightening idea does the Tafhim have ?

Just asking because I never heard of this book.

>>37611

>Turks are our brothers

No, they are not, ☻ them.

In the whole Islam history no one harmed it more than they did

>>40190

It's just the Qur'an with added commentaries from different scholars, which is very helpful for people who have not been raised in an Islamic environment.

>>19586

Here is my question.

If Muslims are against abortion and pro-family and faith, why do the majority of Muslims vote liberal who's views are exact polar to their own?

This has never made sense to me, and I do believe there are a few Muslims that are vocal about this, but if your belief is that Allah creates human life at the time of conception, then why would you even think about voting into power the very people that snub their noses at the teachings of the Qu'ran?

This hypocrisy amidst the Muslim community does not bode well with me and is a major reason why I am standoffish on the religion as a whole.

There's parts of Islam that I agree with, that makes me not a typical Christian. I do not believe that Jesus was God. God is God. God is not a man or woman or anything thing else that is within the realm of God's creation. God is the CREATOR, and not a part of His CREATION. God is apart from His creation.

I believe Jesus was able to do many things, just like Moses was able to do many things through the grace and will of God.

But for the life of me, I cannot get a handle as to WHY so many Muslims vote into power the very people that would eventually seek their destruction? Not only the destruction of themselves, but the destruction of their faith and belief?

It befuddles me.

Muslims would have a better chance at preserving their faith and pro family views by supporting conservative Christian/Jewish candidates.

Eventually I believe there will be a movement amidst the Muslim population in America that will realize this and you will see more and more Muslims joining with conservatives and abandoning the liberal agenda.

>>40229

What >>40230 said. If you stopped the Islam-hating or knee-jerk tier reactions to most issues, I think conservative will gain a momentum in America.

How do I get to know more Muslim people? Online would be fine

I feel lonely

>>40272

JazakaAllah Khairan' for your websites. I've read a few articles and found many things I've never knew about actually.

I was more asking about ways to socialize with Muslim people. Talk to someone, anyone. Thank you

>>40274

I think both those sites have community links, don't they?

how to break free from porn addiction and skewed sexual fantasies? seriously, it's destroying my faith. i can't overcome my urges. i feel disgusted of myself.

What is the nature of Allah's justice? Is He truly Al-Adl?

Implying that Allah has shortcomings is far from my mind, however I am unknowing.

Allah says in Surah Al-Qasas Verse 56:

>Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided.

If Allah chooses whom He guides and whom He leaves astray, then how can the one whom is led astray be blamed for what was chosen for him?

When many of the world religions claim:

>If you are not a Muslim, you will go to hell.

>If you are not a Christian, you will go to hell.

>If you are not a Jew, you will go to hell.

>If you are not … etc.

Then how can I be certain that I am on the right path? I wish to follow God and avoid Hell, but I don't want to make a guessing game out of it.

How can man be expected to be capable of distinguishing false divinity from true divinity?

All that man posesses is his own reason, but we know that Allah is so great a being that man cannot possibly comprehend Him. So with this limited mind, how can man be certain about the correctness of his faith?

I'm not sure whether this is deserving of its own thread so I put it here just in case. I put my hope in Allah that I may be guided.

>>40290

I don't believe Allah has allowed something that would be harmful to us in any way. Muh inbreeding is a meme to mock Muslims/arabs. If you look up stats, the catastrophic results are due to siblings getting married or other Haram relationships. See 4:19-23

Happy for you brother. Best of luck inshaAllah

>>40327

Aiight, just asking my dude. Jazakallah.

>>40329

>declares others apostate

So, you're God? Nice ...

Hi friends,

I often try out certain aspects of religions that interest me to try and see if the effects the rules of said religion have a positive or negative effect on me.

Which rules do you consider essential in Islam with regards to behavior?

Even if my beard is really weak/patchy and growing it gives me skin problems should I still not shave it? Would it be sinful for me to do so even if it causes me health issues?

>>40346

It was never an obligation in Islam to grow a beard. You can shave it whenever you feel like it.

Growing a beard needs patience and good care. Don't shave it too often and moisturize the skin underneath after you wash your face with soap for example, olive oil in very small quantities does it for me.

>>40351

Just want to point out that although it is not an obligation but clearly something encouraged and shaving it is discouraged as well.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/77/109

Thanks for the tips as well. I noticed that when I cut my beard short, my skin is pretty dry on the chin. Would try it later on.

I've been asked to explain my actions, so I will - though it is against my better judgment to do so.

>>40327

This is an opinion. It may not be a valid opinion, but that is what it is. If an opinion is given and it isn't valid, then it is up to the brothers to correct the poster.

>>40329

This is not a correction of the opinion. It is a deliberate attack on the poster himself. The argument/opinion is not attacked. I chose to ignore this post because I am not a ban-happy person. But then ..

>>40350

He came back and did the exact same thing. The argument was not attacked, the opinion not corrected. The poster was attacked directly. I gave this a 1 hour ban to put a warning message. But then ...

>>40354

He came back and did the exact same thing AGAIN! This time he got a 24 hour ban. The first time, I ignored it. The second time got a warning. The third time got a ban. There will not be a fourth time.

>>40356

That's the thing though this is my first time trying to grow a beard. I've not been shaving for too long and do it once/twice a month at most. Is there a reason my skin gets so bad other than the beard (or bad beard/skin care) or do I just have bad skin? None of my patriarchs in family have ever had beards and i inherited my father's sensitive skin so i couldnt really ask them for tips. Has any brother here had a similar experience or am I just doomed to very unhealthy skin with a beard? My family are non-muslim for reference.

>>40363

At least you can grow a beard.

I can't due to my sissy East Asian genes.

>>40371

depends how often I defecate between prayers but I'd say on average it's between 3-4 times a day and always once before bed. Thank you for the information.

>>40337

>5. Pilgrimage. At least once in your life make the journey to Mecca.

*if you're able to.

>>40326

About the tongue,

https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/17867/is-the-hadith-about-the-prophet-sucking-on-the-tongue-true

Camel Urine

https://questionsonislam.com/question/did-prophet-pbuh-advise-drinking-camels-urine

السلام عليكم

I recently met a girl. We were paired in a school project and all the time we talked was within the project and we never crossed any boundaries. She seems to be very conservative. She speaks good language, isn't active on social media and dresses very respectfully. During the period before actually meeting her I've never seen her around any guys. She also never goes to any of the school parties. I guess she's catholic(from her name). She knows I'm a Muslim. Altough we don't know each other well, she is honestly someone I'd consider being with in the future. How should I deal with this? Any of you anons had similar experiences?

جزاكم الله خيرا

>>40390

Thanks my dude

Where do I look to learn how to pray the 5 daily prayers? Seems like to me every guide I look up are somewhat different.

Do single male muslims have a chance of being a good muslim? I restrained my porn addiction to a big extent but it only increased my libido. I always sin one way or another. Marriage is unfortunately not an option for me, at least for the time being.

>>40436

>Do single male muslims have a chance of being a good muslim?

Why, yes. Anyone have a chance of being a good muslim. Do your religious obligations and maybe something extra that's permissible and halal.

>I restrained my porn addiction to a big extent but it only increased my libido. I always sin one way or another

You've shown that you try, struggle or jihad against it. If you fell again, rise back up. Repent. Never give up on Allah's mercy.

Although fasting is the best thing you could do to stave off the libido but some scholars rules that you can masturbate but without using porn albeit considered makhruh.

Fight against the sin as much as you can. Surely Allah will reward you for every second you struggle to become better.

>>40436

Why do people always come here with the idea that Islam is a "one and done" proposition? If you fall, you get back up! There is no "if you sin once, you're forever doomed" ideology in Islam - well, except for Wahabbists … they don't understand forgiveness or mercy.

We all sin. We all repent. We all ask forgiveness. We all try. We all fail. Allah knows and will be forever merciful because Allah loves you.

>>40444

https://qiblafinder.withgoogle.com/intl/en/desktop

>>40445

This calculates the shortest distance from my location to the Kaaba, but is it the correct way to do it? As I said in my post, it might be the shortest path but the direction along it is not consistent.

I want an islamically correct way to determine the qibla not one that is purely mathematical.

>>40448

I never said otherwise, it could be mathematically correct while not be the it's supposed to be done in Islam. It could also be correct from both point of views. That's why I'm asking if north east is the direction of the qiblah or south-east. Both are correct mathematically but for different reasons.

I pray to Allah that he makes me taller although I'm 22. Is it pathetic? Being short caused me to have inferiority complex. It made me extremely shy and quiet. It also made me so awkward over years I will never be able to come to terms with being content in my skin. Should I keep praying for it? Is it over?

>>40450

Then is it the only correct way? The original point was about NE vs SE some scholar nowadays will argue that SE is right, and NE is wrong because the direction changes along the curved path. You start NE and by the end of the trajectory it ends up facing SE. Some scholars will argue that NE is the only correct way because it is the shortest path(what all these apps calculate).

The question is, are they both valid views based on Islamic evidence like Qur'anic verse, hadiths or fiqh literature?

Can anyone point me in the right direction to learn arabic? I have enroled to a class but that starts in June, I would like to get a bit of a foundation to build upon before i start.

>>40564

I'm rereading again the arguments made by my Federal Islamic Islamic Authority and found that what you said is true, well mostly since the footnotes do describe various punishments. I guess the current ruling has to prescribe their own version of punishment

Here's the link for those interested :

http://www.islam.gov.my/images/ePenerbitan/Hadis-hadis_Sahih_Berkaitan_Perlakuan_LGBT_BI.pdf

Anyway, back to my main question. What about the dzimmis? Should such punishment be imposed onto them as well?

Is a salah with mistakes (an invalid salah) equivalent to no salah at all?

I know that Allah is merciful to me but I'm not merciful to myself. How do I learn to forgive myself?

>>40577 (checked)

Aiight, thanks for the input bruv

>>40576

If you learnt from the mistakes, that's better. If you kept doing it, you need to rethink. If it due to forgetfulness/unmindful during salah, do sujud sahwi. Of course, you need to improve your mindfulness but we're human beings, after all. Never give up.

>>40579

That's a hard topic to tackle. I can only give what I did when I feel that way. First is to fully understand that human are bound to err and that we are supposed to learn from such err.

>>40579

It doesn't matter whether you forgive yourself because you're not the judge. God is the judge, so you should let Him decide, as He is just.

I don't like my father. He's been very harsh to me when I was a kid and he's still very grumpy. I have been a better kid than most kid, he's been a worse father than most fathers. I'm so sick of him and his manners. Can I disavow him? Is it permitted? I know earning parents pleasure is very important but I don't even perceive him like my father. I don't know what to do and am really confused.

In the wake of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, many government officials seem to care more about GDP than the lives of their people.

The (government) big wigs and officials responsible for travel and/or public health safety aren't doing their jobs, leading to the suffering and death of thousands (if not millions).

No complete lockdown of the entire country, no travel bans, nothing. If this is not oppression I do not know what is.

Beware of the supplication of the oppressed, for there is no barrier between it and Allah

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 4090

Every day I pray so that Allah may never forgive their sins, and let them burn in Jahannam for all eternity.

Is it wrong to pray for the destruction and suffering of your oppressors?

>>40615

No. These people are toying with other people's lives for profit without any shred of guilt or remorse.

I pray that Allah would put them at the same level as the Jews and Iblees, and let them forever burn in Jahannam for all eternity.

They could've avoided this prayer, but chose not to.

They reap what they sow.

>>40621

>but your prayer won't have any effect

That's a pretty bold statement.

[1] You're contradicting the hadith, which explicitly says that: "there is no barrier between it and Allah"

[2] Who are you to say what can or cannot have any effect? Are you speaking on the behalf of Allah now? You're committing an act of syirk

> other than to hurt yourself

Sauce me a verse of the Quran or any hadith on this.

If you can't, then you're just making ☻ up about the religion. And you know what that means.

>I will pray for your rightful guidance.

Oh quit it with the holier than thou attitude.

The one thing that disgust me more than hоmоsеxuаls and jеws are fаggоts like you.

>>40623

https://8kun.top/islam/rules.html

Rule 6

>>40624

>quit it with the holier than thou attitude

No, you quit it with the pretending that prayer and supplication to Allah are magic spells to cast curses on your enemies that Allah must do for you. That is literally an act of shirk.

>>40625

Not responding to the syirk statement I see.

>Are you He? No. Allah is the judge and the redeemer. You are neither.

Never said I was. Quit putting words in my mouth.

>>40627

Finally showing off your true colors, eh?

>Allah must do for you

I never said that. Quit putting words in my mouth.

Strawmanning seems to be a running theme in this board. How very /islam/ic.

>quit it with the pretending that prayer and supplication to Allah are magic spells to cast curses on your enemies

Again, the hadith was "Beware of the supplication of the oppressed, for there is no barrier between it and Allah"

BEWARE

NO BARRIER

Do I have to spell it out to you on why the Prophet (SAW) used these words?

>>40628

>If all you can do is throw out childish insults

<ALL YOU CAN DO

Insults make up less than 10% of my posts, but somehow that's ALL I DO huh?

That's very disingenuous of you to disregard the rest of my posts. How very /islam/ic.

>then you are not welcome on this board.

Reminder that you posted this hadith right here >>40625 . Hypocrisy at its finest.

It would seem that this "holier than thou" attitude and general hypocrisy permeates this board.

What exemplary /islam/ic values. Kek.

>>40630

>BEWARE

>NO BARRIER

How does that say it's ok to pray for the death and destruction of your enemies when the Prophet clearly said otherwise?

>>40634

>How does that say it's ok to pray for the death and destruction of your enemies when the Prophet clearly said otherwise?

Where did the Prophet said otherwise? Where did the Prophet prohibit to pray for the destruction of your oppressors?

No sauce means you're making up about the religion, and you know what that means.

>>40635

Not responding to the disingenuous statement I see.

>How is that me being hypocritical?

Because the hadith you posted was about patience, tolerance, and praying for the good of others despite them trying to kill you.

While you on the other hand, are very quick to kick me out just for a mere insult.

You shouldn't fling out hadiths like that if you can't live up to them.

>>40638

Abu Huraira reported: At-Tufail came with his companions and they said, “O Messenger of Allah, the tribe of Daws has disbelieved and rejected you, so pray to Allah against them.” And it was said, “May the tribe of Daws be destroyed!” The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

اللَّهُمَّ اهْدِ دَوْسًا وَائْتِ بِهِمْ

O Allah, guide the tribe of Daws and bring them to me.

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 4131

Abu Huraira reported: It was said, “O Messenger of Allah, pray against the idolaters!” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

إِنِّي لَمْ أُبْعَثْ لَعَّانًا وَإِنَّمَا بُعِثْتُ رَحْمَةً

Verily, I was not sent to invoke curses, but rather I was only sent as mercy.

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2599

Jabir reported: It was said, “O Messenger of Allah, the arrows of the tribe of Thaqīf have pierced us, so pray against them!” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

اللَّهُمَّ اهْدِ ثَقِيفًا

O Allah, guide the tribe of Thaqīf!

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 3942

If you were actually Muslim, then you'd know all of this and wouldn't need a source; but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

>>40640

Truth. Mercy >>>>> Destruction

>>40639

>>40640

None of these Ahadith prohibits the cursing of oppressors.

>>40654

Yes but why you don't want to follow the Prophet's sunnah? Is Rahmatan lil A'lamin means little to you?

>>40640

>>40654

Yahya heard from malik who heard from daud ibn hussain that he heard al araaj say:

In ever saw the people in ramadan, but they were cursing the disbeliveers

there is commentary from ibn abd al barr al maliki may Allah have mercy on him:

THIS SHOWS THAT IS IT PERMISSIBLE TO CURSE THE KUFFAR WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE DHIMMI. THIS IS NOT OBLIGATORY. RATHER IT IS ALLOWED FOR THOSE WHO DO IT OUT OF HATRED FOR THEM FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH DUE TO THEIR DENIAL OF THE TRUTH AND THEIR ENMITY TO THE RELIGION AND ITS PEOPLE.

(warning, this post does not encourage any violence , discrimination or hatred against any people, i am strictly against violence and i am only calling towards core islamic beliefs, such as the oneness of God, NOT VIOLENCE, i condem any terrorism / violence)

>>40662

Al albani menti0ons a narration of ibn khuzaymah in which Umar appointed someone to lead the people in prayer at night in ramadan,

and

at the end of praying after the first 1/2 of the month

the leader would make the following supplication: O allah, fight the kuffar who lead people away from your path, deny your messengers and do not believei n your promise.

this is found in qiyam al layl, page 32 , by al albani

ibn khuzaymahs narration (2/155)

[take the warning from the previous message, i do not promote violence, i am strictly peaceful and call to the oneness of god, any violence or terrorism is condemed by me completely .]

For those of you who are in containment, how would you ideally spend the day?

>>40700

Doin' pretty good over here.

>wake up

>pray

>eat breakfast

>play video games

>skype with parents

>pray

>play more video games

>eat lunch

>pray

>watch livestream from mosque

>pray

>play video games

>eat dinner

>pray

>watch a movie

>go to bed

Rinse, Repeat.

>>40701

How do you get yourself to enjoy reading? I do read, but 9 times out of 10 I get extremely bored after a few pages

>>40712

That's I'm trying to stop doing. I don't want to mess with my reward system

how to deal with loneliness?

where can I chat with people?

is there an 8/islam/chat on another platform?

>>40721

I want to say go out to your local masjid and socialize after congregational prayer but it's qurantime now.

>where can I chat with people

There's a telegram group that some of the board user went to. Maybe there?

>is there an 8/islam/chat on another platform?

Most of us prefer here to keep our anonymity

>>40724

>>27760

>>40722

I've checked the group already, not working. I'd rather keep my anonymity too, but nowhere could I find(on the internet) like minded people without having to engage in degenerate activities. Socializing IRL has been a lost cause for me for almost three years now. It's becoming too much to handle, that's why I'm asking :)

>>40728

How old are you anon? Have you finished highschool or college? Finding like minded people is hard. If you've gone through years of socializing and sticking to some group of friends, you'll find a few that you can truly say this is my gang and I'll die for them. Then you'll find those that truly like minded as you.

Are you lonely or you haven't tried connecting to those that once know you?

>>40734

I'm 20 and still in college. Left my home country for studies a few years ago. I've stuck to the same group of friends for almost ten years now, it'd been gradually getting lower in number. Being on the chans for years doesn't help. I sometimes talk to the one true, like minded friend I've got left, he's been busy with work. I've tried connecting to some of my old friends(mostly girls, before I turned to Islam :)), it didn't work well. I am lonely, and it's getting worse with self-isolation.

Jazak Allah Khairan' for your concern, brother :)

>>40742

I see. Then take this time of isolation and ask Allah wholeheartedly about your problem. Tell Him like you're telling your most intimate person about your problem. Do not be afraid to sound casual. What's important that you tell Him everything. Let it all out and ask for a way out. Be a little bit specific about that way out. Maybe the person is so and so.

I honestly can't help you much since I'm a loner myself but from the time that I went to college, I managed to find friends that I still contact to this day.

Hello I am vry worried are moderators deleting posts they don't agree with? Also what do we think of >>/muslim/ are they a good board?

>>40774

Wow. It's nothing

Brothers I hope you are all doing well in this quarantine, I have a question, do you believe we are in the end times? I feel like 2020 is going to be very wild

>>40776

Recite loudly so you can hear yourself

>>40777

Don't you need to hear your own voice for salah to be valid, at least the recitations that need to be "loud"

>>40785

That's why I'm questioning the use of earplugs. Not because of the music or outside interference.

>>40789

It's not so much about not hearing your own voice, it's about being distracted due to the music playing and losing focus during prayer. I suppose earplugs could help with that.

>>40789

Ah yes, true that. Forgot that convection is a thing for voice as well.

I know it's a khilafah thing for this (whether you need to hear to hear you own voice through your ear i.e soundwaves through air for the prayer to be legit) so I need to recheck for this specific problem. Malaysia mainly follow that we need to hear our own voice through the ear i.e soundwaves by air. I can see that why it's not considered legit since you don't have full range of makraj if you only rely on soundwave through transfer but I still need to recheck.

Though, in that specific problem, I think we can pick the one that you only need to ensure your mouth is "pronouncing" the right makhraj.

>>40791

Heh, true that. Just like, ask them to slow it down for a while. If you can't, earplugs can help.

>>40792

>khilafah

khilaf lmao

Does BO support LGBT and the left?

>>40796

Define "support" and delineate what you mean by "left". I mean, some folks take the fact that I don't have any desire to see gay people murdered as being in "support" of the LGBT movement. So, you're going to need to clarify.

>>40798

Under shariah convicted sodomy is punishable by death.

Do you reject that?

>>40803

>under shariah

Shariah is judicial interpretation of the Sunnah. As such, there is no blanket "under shariah" that can be applied. I reject all shariah that cannot explicitly be backed by Qur'an and Sunnah. I also reject the idea that shariah applies to non-Muslims.

I do acknowledge that the Prophet(pbuh) did state: "If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done." but in order to interpret that properly, one must examine what Lot's people did. They were literally roving gangs of openly practicing sodomites, out in public for all to see, brash and even raping those who came among them.

Should a gang of men who go around openly raping everyone they see be put to death? Yes.

Should a monogamous gay couple who keeps their modesty in public be put to death? No.

Hope that clears things up.

>>40807

>>40807

> I also reject the idea that shariah applies to non-Muslims.

That's false, non muslims have their own religious law, but if they affect a muslim they are judged by Islamic law. For example, if a muslim is murdered by a dhimmi, the shariah applies and no the biblical one.

>Should a monogamous gay couple who keeps their modesty in public be put to death? No.

Not if you have evidence of their sodomy.

>>40819

If you have evidence of a private couple's sodomy, then you're a creeper peeping in their windows and you should be flogged.

>>40822 (checked)

This tho. Unless you've heard from the guy that he's going to do it, then you're invading privacy that even Umar r.a get told to frick off

>>40823

Even if they say they're going to do it, it isn't enough. People say lots of things all the time, but it doesn't mean they're actually going to do it. The only way to have evidence against someone for sodomy is if they put pics or videos out in public or they actually do it in public - which would make them like the people of Lot. A quiet, monogamous couple who keeps their modesty in public should simply be left alone. It's between them and God and is none of our concern.

What's the point of 9chan?

Is it a backup for 8kun?

Is it more active?

>>40813

Do you take your islamic knowledge and shaykhs from the Deparment of Islamic Development Malaysia?

>>40918

It's a bunker of sorts and an alternative. It's not 8kun and it's actually run by someone who actually acknowledges /islam/ as a member of the community. It's also completely separate from Watkins and his Q cult.

>>40919

I'm a Malaysian, so mostly yes. They are THE official Islamic body for the Malaysian Government. Of course each state has their own muftis and their own fatwa but only differ in the things that can be debatable. So far Malaysia is technically a muslim country and the department show no signs of being compromised.

>>40921

Brother you should be careful who you take your deen from, if they work of the rulers, especially a secular govt, you should be weary, you can take fiqh form them at most, but nothing relating to aqeedah. Malaysia may be majority muslim, but the secular government itself, is a taghut system (democracy).

>>40922

>>40922

>>40924

>accidentally clicked New Reply

Anyway, I guess you really don't know Malaysia.

https://www.malaysia.gov.my/portal/content/30116 . Plus, do you think each scholar in Malaysia gonna be a sheeple when Islam is reworked for the government? There are other independent bodies in Malaysia that can serve as a balance and check for the department.

>Brother you should be careful who you take your deen from

If so, then who should we trust? Some random sheikh from nowhere? As long as they reason with Quran and Sunnah, there's no reason for anyone to throw away said institution.

The democracy is debatable but I will state my stance, which had been discussed to death by a lot of scholars. Islam can work in a lot of ways, only we fail to see it because we want it to be perfect (caliphate). We should strive for it, yes but we should implement Islam where we can. Comparing other nations, I feel like Malaysia is one of the best at said implementation.

>>40925

The elite in your country are non muslims, and they don't enforce jizyah, so of course it benefits them to have "freedom of religion". Yet there is no freedom to establish shariah, try it and you get called islamist.

It is a fact that those who work for governments, have financial interests, either due to greed, or duress, they are unable to speak against their governments unislamic stances, and as such, they only feed you fiqh, and if they speak aqeedah, they never apply it to the real world.

It's the same in saudi arabia, but much worst, since they are at risk of death or imprisonment.

Some of them sold their souls for money, and make up fake fatwas to fatten their pockets and others are genuinely afraid and so remain silent on certain issues.

It's why in my case, I use islamic QA websites to get my fiqh questions answered, but for aqeedah, you can't do taqlid, you must learn it yourself. You must learn about tawhid & kufr bi taghut. You cannot be a muslim, without first rejecting the taghut.

If they did teach you proper aqeedah, you would know that democratic rule is not compatible with the supremacy of quran and sunnah. In which, no Islamic law can be overruled for a secular one.

Islam is to be supreme over all religions, an umbrella system, in which muslims are ruled by shariah, and the people of the book can rule by their own law, in exchange for the jizyah tribute.

I was just randomly thinking about something and had an idea that the virgins promised in Paradise are kind of like sex robots? Has anyone ever thought about this before? It seems to fit some of the descriptions. Would you want sex robots? If this is what was promised does that mean we are close to Paradise?

>>40932

That hadith is considered daif so not really something to look forward to or should be discussed but considering that Allah WILL grant any desire even as mundane as in this hadith https://sunnah.com/bukhari/41/26 so eh.

Anyway

>sex robots

No, not really. It'll be anything that one might desire. A far cry than anything that a perverted human can do and build in this world

>Would you want sex robots?

Any kind of pornography is haram.

>>40931

Malaysia is secular whether you cope or not, even if they sprinkle some islamic terms here and there.

>He started with da'wah and slowly turn the people of Makkah and Madinah to become muslim and create an Islamic nation.

Yeah and he had many opportunities and offers to share power with the mushriks but he never compromised even one bit.

When you compromise your religion and treat the law of Allah swt cheaply by making secularism equal then you become a kafir.

>>40932

They aren't robots they're sentient beings like you and me. By your logic all women are sexbots. Are women reduced to their genitals for you?

>>40935

>Yeah and he had many opportunities and offers to share power with the mushriks but he never compromised even one bit.

Because all of those compromise is for him to stop da'wah completely. Last time the people of Nusantara defended their nation and religion, they got colonized and here we are.

What's the masterplan then? an open revolt which then will be faced with more prosecution and bad publicity?

In democracy, at least amendments can be made towards the constitution which is a double edged sword, but it's possible and much more feasible. At least in Malaysia. But let's stop here. It's clearly you can't see the reason behind this ijtihad and there's no reason for us to try convince each other since our hearts are already set on a path.

Ramadhan Mubarak

>>40942

>Because all of those compromise is for him to stop da'wah completely.

Not really because they gave him part of the year to worship Allah alone and in other parts it's their turn to worship other gods. Using ikhwani logic, you can gradually make people join islam by accepting this deal.

>Last time the people of Nusantara defended their nation and religion, they got colonized and here we are.

What makes you think you should give up?

The Afghans never gave up and it took decades of sacrifice but only now is it looking positive for the Islamic future.

Allah swt promised it was never going to be easy, but it's better to die standing than live in fear like a coward.

You are the majority in those archipelagos, act like it.

>What's the masterplan then? an open revolt which then will be faced with more prosecution and bad publicity?

There's no reason we can't spread da'wah to fellow muslims who are blinded by democracy and teach them, that's the minimum we should do.

If we don't teach the lay muslim masses they won't know the root cause of their problems (abandonment of shariah) and this will cause them to be unsuspecting targets of kufr about it and lead them to jahanam.

>In democracy, at least amendments can be made towards the constitution which is a double edged sword, but it's possible and much more feasible.

This is the ideology of the ikhwan al mufliseen, gradualism, which is to gradually raise islam by incorporating it with shirk.

This won't work, has never worked and will never work. These people will end up being humiliated like dogs like morsi, fate of all who sell the shariah cheaply.

> It's clearly you can't see the reason behind this ijtihad

I see the reasons, but it's baatil (false) and void, since it's not based on any quran or sunnah.

And in fact contradicts tawhid. My argument is pretty simple,

>democracy is a taghut

>one can't be muslim without rejecting taghut

>therefore democracy should be rejected

And if I have to remind you, ijtihad comes after quran & sunnah, and after the ijma' sahaba.

>and there's no reason for us to try convince each other since our hearts are already set on a path.

I used to think like you it's why I have some sympathy, I hope you are not those who the devil has tricked already or has a hard heart. Is democracy really worth your akhira? If i'm wrong then I'm only doing good da'wah, and if you're wrong then you enter jahanam. You should at least be open to my argument, just in case I have a point.

>>40943

So, you want to go around to Muslims in democratic nations and tell them not to vote? As in "don't vote, goy! it's shirk! you should just let everyone else make decisions for you!"?

How about … no.

>>40944

>1 post by id

>goy

gb2 /pol/

What do you think of blackpill? (The incel thing)

>>40946

Looks do matter but society is more influential than looks.

Incels exist everywhere but depending on if the society is patriarchal or not, they suffer proportionally.

In muslim majority countries, incels still get married thanks in part to societal pressure, coming from Islam and culture that is against fornication.

We notice incels more in the west because their society is no longer patriarchal and adopted feminism, there is no sanctity of marriage, christiannity is dead or boiled down to some quotes. This is which allows for women to sleep with who they want (good looking alphas) and that leaves 80% of males celibate.

The cause for the failure of christiannity to deal with this human condition is the fact that it's a false religion based on shirk and everyone knows that, so they have to oppress people to keep them from rejecting it.

Islam lasted the test of time and will last because it is true and muslims and converts alike can see that.

The way Islam also teaches sexuality as a part of a healthy marriage, helped it remain relevant even in our hypersexualized era.

When for christians, shunning sex and only seeing it as a means of reproduction and not fun, has caused a degenerate backlash of free sexuality.

Brothers how will we celebrate 'eid with this quarantine?

>>40970

Video conference lmao.

>>40970

We've been doing prayer times and iftar over google hangouts.

>>40972

We?

>>40973

The brothers at my mosque.

>>40972

>>40971

let's meet in VRchat xD

>>40975

If someone wants to set something up, we can do that. We're not afraid of showing our power level or intimidated by meetups.

Non-Muslim here who is interested in converting – are there any good biographies of the Prophet which contextualize when and where certain ayat were revealed and the general history of the beginnings of Islam? This is my greatest issue in reading the Qur’an, that I don’t know context. One book I was looking into was “Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources” by Martin Lings. This book looks decent and has footnotes but its author is a perennialist/Traditionalist and follower of Frithjof Schuon, who was a general weirdo. I’ve also heard about The Sealed Nectar but know less about it.

>>40978

sealed nectar is better, you are correct, martin lings was a weirdo

I suggest reading quran fully, then reading sealed nectar, then reading the quran in chronological order and you will make links

Or you can listen to this seerah audio series, which is long and detailed

>The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Makkan Period)

>The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Medina Period)

>The Life of Muhammed - Madinah Part II

found here :

https://www.kalamullah.com/anwar-alawlaki.html

>>40987

I've heard that the english translation is pretty bad, but I grew up reading it in my Islamic classes (english) and don't remember it being that bad.

Just FYI for the non muslim brother asking

>>40993

>talking about the sealed nectar btw

>>40993

>>40994

I usually try to find PDFs of books online and skim them before buying a physical copy so I'll definitely make sure the translation is good before purchasing anything. Unfortunately my Arabic is fairly rudimentary right now. Thank you.

>>40987

Thank you for the advice! I think I will try to do just what you recommended.

Why was the thread on hijrah deleted?

Is BO BTFO?

How would I go about doing the Eid Prayer while in quarantine? Can I do it at home alone? Can't do a small Jama'ah since I live alone and I doubt mosques are open and I wouldn't be comfortable going even if they were.

>>41132

Then you would have to do it at home alone.

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/photos/nation/combating-coronavirus-step-by-step-guide-to-offering-eid-prayer-at-home

>>41131

There hasn't been a post deletion in 3 days except self-deletion. I can assure you that I've never in my life been "BTFO", but thanks for playing.

>>41138

Where is the thread on hijrah then?

>>41141

>delete own post

>blame staff

<D&C

Oldest trick in the book.

>>41132

Hopefully mosques will be reopened by the end of July. If not, there are many mosques broadcasting live streams. Easy enough to find one.

Eid Mubarak! عيد مبارك and don't forget about our brothers who have little to eat, the oppressed and the converts who may be lonely.

Also post some good masjid livestreams.

Question, whats the argument against using calculations instead of moon sightings? It seems like most people use moon sightings to determine dates?

>>41200

Eid Mubarak Brother!

>>41201

>Question, whats the argument against using calculations instead of moon sightings? It seems like most people use moon sightings to determine dates?

Because Allah said :

So whoever witnesses among you the month, then he should fast in it

فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ

Baqarah 2:185

And the Messenger of Allah said: "Do not fast before Ramadan. Fast with its sighting, and break fast with its sighting, and if it is obscured from you, then complete thirty days."

لاَ تَصُومُوا قَبْلَ رَمَضَانَ صُومُوا لِرُؤْيَتِهِ وَأَفْطِرُوا لِرُؤْيَتِهِ فَإِنْ حَالَتْ دُونَهُ غَيَايَةٌ فَأَكْمِلُوا ثَلاَثِينَ يَوْمًا

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 688

Because of that it's necessary to actually witness it with eyes, but it's a fardh kifaya meaning it's a sufficient obligation that only 1 muslim minimum has to see it.

But, calculations can help to make sure and be accurate and avoid dispute according to many scholars.

55:5 The sun and the moon [move] by precise calculation,

10:5 It is He who made the sun a shining light and the moon a derived light and determined for it phases - that you may know the number of years and account [of time]. Allah has not created this except in truth. He details the signs for a people who know

Eid Mubarak, everyone!

Why do we say peace be upon him for Prophet Muhammad, even though we don't say alayhi-s-salam in Arabic?

>>41224

The language doesn't really matter. I rarely use the Arabic phrasing on things since I am a native English speaker. For instance, I don't say "Inshallah", opting instead to say "God willing".

>>41225

It's less accurate.

god just means a diety, it can be anything

do you pray in english as well

>>41231

>god just means a diety, it can be anything

No. There is only one God. It can't be anything.

>>41234

Do you pray in arabic?

>>41234

>No. There is only one God. It can't be anything.

I mean linguistically, it's not precise.

>>41235

I say the rakah in Arabic as the Prophet instructed, but I pray in English.

>>41236

Nothing man-made is precise.

>>41239

I mean in salat, do you recite the quran in english or arabic?

>Nothing man-made is precise.

Languages are actually not man-made, they originate from Allah swt who taught us.

(55:4) and has taught him articulate speech.

>>41241

>Languages are actually not man-made, they originate from Allah

Well, then English is just fine.

>>41242

Not for worship, since it's not a language of a revealed scripture.

>>41243

Goalpost Status: Moved

>>41245

In what language do you recite quran during salat?

>>41236

What do you mean precise though. God is the same as Allah in arabic, Allah just means "The God", singular, just as "God" in english. Arab Christians call god "Allah" too, same with other religions that have similar language.

>>41245

Its pretty important to recite Quran and Duas in arabic though during salah for preservation, things can often be "lost in translation", interpreted differently, etc., when translated to a different language, thats why theres many different translations of the Quran because sometimes the english language can't express things exactly which are written in arabic. Its also why we say the Bible is corrupted, we don't have the original in the original language it was revealed in, many of the translations like the King James Bible they translated in certain ways to establish and emphasize Jesus's god-like divinity, to reinforce their concept of the trinity.

>>41248

Watch the video

>>41248

>important to recite Quran and Duas in arabic though during salah

>during salah

Exactly. But injecting "inshallah" into every day conversation isn't "during salah".

>>41284

Who cares?

>>41284

http://www.israellycool.com/2017/04/26/how-times-of-israel-fed-isis-is-israel-conspiracy-nonsense/

>This was not picked up by any significant news site in Israel because, frankly, it’s not nearly as explosive as ToI’s correspondent has painted here (including the conspiratorial “refused to elaborate” lede). Also note Ya’alon left office in May 2016, well before this incident occurred.

>Israel and much of the Western world considers the Islamic State affiliate in the Syrian Golan Heights, known as the Khalid ibn al-Walid Army, to be a terrorist group. Communication with them is technically illegal under Israeli law, constituting contact with an enemy agent.

>>41284

>“We’ve assisted them under two conditions,” Ya’alon said of the Israeli medical aid to the Syrian rebels, some of whom are presumably fighting with al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra Front to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad. “That they don’t get too close to the border, and that they don’t touch the Druze.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

BTW ISIS declared war on the druze as apostates, thus a deal with israel would be impossible.

>>41406

Shouldn't they read the quran first?

>>41407

They're Muslim bro, of course they've read the Quran. A tafsir is the exegesis of the Quran, the commentary and explanation of the verses.

>>41406

I like the Muhammad Mahdi al Sharif translation. As for the artistic value, you can buy whatever you please and take it to a book binding service to have it bound into something you like - even using something personal to you and your family.

Why does BO censor words with filters it's kind of annoying since it changes the meaning the author intended. I understand for swear words or words that are disgusting but not normal words. I'm worried about the quality of our posts. If you don't like it you can disagree but no use censoring if it's not an insult or just a descriptive in context.

>>41431

What normal words have been filtered?

>>41431

The only words that have been filtered are vulgarities and epithets.

>>41439

Can you list them please?

>>41446

It's probably words like 🤬 and 🤬 and 🤬 …

Oh wait … they're filtered … they CAN'T be listed!

>>41449

can you give synonyms or definitions of the words?

>>41450

There used to be a way to see a board's settings. Not sure if that's still possible, though. Seems words like "sh.it" and "k.ike" and "mud.slime" are what's filtered, though.

>>41456

Why do you filter the word m.ajos?

It's another word for iranian.

And why the parentheses?

It's just a meme and those aren't insults.

>>41458

>why do you filter n.igger?

>It's just another word for black?

Uh uh

>why the parenthesis?

Read Qur'an.

>>41460

no sorry it's not like the n word

>read quran

yeah it seems Allah (swt) curses jews

>>41462

>it seems Allah (swt) curses jews

Then you haven't read Qur'an.

>Think they are richer than God

"God has indeed heard the saying of those who said, "Behold, God is poor while we are rich!" We shall record what they have said, as well as their slaying of prophets against all right, and We shall say [unto them on Judgment Day]: "Taste suffering through fire" - 3:181

>They are arrogant

And so, [We punished them] for the breaking of their pledge, and their refusal to acknowledge God's messages, and their slaying of prophets against all right, and their boast, "Our hearts are already full of knowledge"- nay, but God has sealed their hearts in result of their denial of the truth, and [now] they believe in but few things - 4:155

>Consume usury & other's wealth

"And for their taking usury although it had been forbidden to them, and their wrongful devouring of other people's possessions. And for those from among them who [continue to] deny the truth We have readied grievous suffering." - 4:161

And among the People of the Scripture is he who, if you entrust him with a great amount [of wealth], he will return it to you. And among them is he who, if you entrust him with a [single] silver coin, he will not return it to you unless you are constantly standing over him [demanding it]. That is because they say, "There is no blame upon us concerning the unlearned." And they speak untruth about Allah while they know [it]. 3:75

>They ally with heretics, pagans, disbelievers

"Thou canst see many of them allying themselves with those who deny the truth! [So] vile indeed is what their passions make them do that God has condemned them; and in suffering shall they abide." - 5:80

"For, if they [truly] believed in God and their Prophet and all that was bestowed upon him from on high, they would not take those [deniers of the truth] for their allies: but most of them are iniquitous." - 5:81

>They tampered with scripture

"Woe, then, unto those who write down, with their own hands, [something which they claim to be] divine writ, and then say. "This is from God," in order to acquire a trifling gain thereby; woe, then, unto them for what their hands have written, and woe unto them for all that they may have gained! "- 2:79

>They don't apply God's laws

"They would not prevent one another from doing whatever sinful things they did: vile indeed was what they were wont to do!" - 5:79

>They fear Muslims more than God

"Nay, [O believers,] you arouse in their bosoms a fear more intense than [even their fear of] God: this, because they are people who fail to grasp the truth. "- 59:13

>They are cowards in war & fear death

"Never will they fight you, [even] in unison, otherwise than from within fortified strongholds or from behind walls. Severe is their warlike discord among themselves: thou wouldst think that they are united, whereas [in fact] their hearts are at odds [with one another]: this, because they are people who will not use their reason." - 59:14

>>41464

>>41465

You sttill haven't read it. Just copypasted it. Do you understand the term "qualifier"? I'll just use your first example:

>Those of the children of Israel who were bent on denying the truth have [already] been cursed

>who were bent on denying the truth

>who were bent on denying the truth

Once more just in case you missed it:

WHO WERE BENT ON DENYING THE TRUTH

Do you understand the part you're missing now? Hope so.

>>41464

>>41465

Oh goodie. A polcel whose hatred of da j00s exceeds his love for God.

>>41466

Yeah it's talking about the kuffar jews.

Those who don't believe in Isa (as) or Muhammad (saw).

>>41467

Nah I don't hate jews for their ethnicity, but I hate their religion. Same for christians & pagans. I'm just discussing jews because BO seems to have a soft spot for them. Maybe he was a jew idk.

>>41468

>BO seems to have a soft spot for them

Because I don't allow /pol/ memes on my board? /pol/ hasn't been allowed here since the day I opened this board 6 years ago. I do not permit racism or fascism or nationalism and never have. It has nothing to do with Jewish people. /pol/ ruins everything it touches.

>>41470

I hate /pol/ members probably more than you do since I'm what they consider non white and they want to shoot me and my family. I don't personally use /pol/ memes but sometimes the jew memes are funny I must admit. I base my hatred on the jewish religion and it's adherents on Islam, I am not a nationalist or fascist or racist. I cannot be an anti semite since I am a semite myself from the line of Abraham (as). Do you believe jews of today can enter heaven? No they cannot, they are non muslims. So there is nothing wrong insulting jews & christians or mocking them on our boards, since they are doing more than that they are killing us easily. Unless you don't consider palestinians or afghans as your own.

>>41471

>there is nothing wrong insulting jews & christians or mocking them on our boards

I prefer to educate rather than mock. You do whatever you want on your board.

>>41471

O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one's] faith. And whoever does not repent - then it is those who are the wrongdoers. [Quran 49:11]

Have you not considered how Allah presents an example, [making] a good word like a good tree, whose root is firmly fixed and its branches [high] in the sky? It produces its fruit all the time, by permission of its Lord. And Allah presents examples for the people that perhaps they will be reminded. And the example of a bad word is like a bad tree, uprooted from the surface of the earth, not having any stability. [Quran 14:24-26]

>>41470

>>41474

BASED BO

>>41492

Racism isn't allowed on /islam/. Cope.

>>41456

>>41458

>And why the parentheses?

Since the triple parentheses doesn't make the blue on white text that it made on 8chan, that's gotta just be an old filter. 8kun does not have that feature.

>>41494

judaism is a religion, not a race

cope cohen

>>41499

"Jewish" is an ethnicity, not a religion. If you can't cope and decide to be racist or antisemitic on this board, you'll most likely get banned and then have to whine about it using a VPN.

>>41503

>Ju·da·ism

>/ˈjo͞odāˌizəm,ˈjo͞odēˌizəm/

>noun

>the monotheistic religion of the Jews.

It's a religion, there are black, white, arab jews, it's not a race.

But nice try shlomo.

>>41504

Here >>41476 is a Quranic verse advising the people to not call each other by offensive nicknames. You appear to be using shlomo as a derisive term implying that the poster you are replying to is a Jew. This is common behavior from schizophrenic /pol/ posters and is generally unwelcome here.

>>41504

That's because all people who practice Judaism are Jews (even converts), but not all Jews practice Judaism.

>nice try shlomo

Get that /pol/ garbage out of here.

>>41508

I apologize to that man whoever he may be if he was a muslim and a called him a jew. It's just that I suspect changing ID's as I know non muslims try to confuse us in our religion by posting here.

>>41509

I'm discussing the talmudic religion, not any ethnicity. Plus I doubt that ethiopian jews are the same as european jews.

>>41518

>the talmudic religion

No such thing. Talmud is Rabbinical commentary on Torah. It's not a religious document. It's similar to scholarly commentaries on Qur'an. It's the interpretation of complex ideas, nothing more.

>I doubt that ethiopian jews are the same as european jews

Why? Because of skin color? Humans breed with other humans outside of their own tribe all the time. Miscegenation is the natural state of manlkind. Is it impossible for you to imagine that two very different looking people could have descended from the same familial line? We already know you have a very /pol/-like attitude about things, which means you probably don't see "joggers" as human; but we are ALL descended from Adam and he sure as hell wasn't White.

>>41519

nice b8 (1) ID

>>41522

>still thinks a (1) means anything

You must be new to 8kun. When 8chan got destroyed, Jim opened up 8kun and actively encourages people to use TOR and VPNs. It is incredibly rare to see someone on 8kun whose ID doesn't change with every post.

>>41522

Everything he said was correct. Are you actually Muslim or are you one of those "white shariah" kiddies?

>>41525

False, I am not, these are assumptions.

>>41546

I'm heavily invested in silver, I have a very small amount of gold. I listen to Peter Schiff's podcast.

>>41546

I've also been hoarding copper pennies as a hobby.

>>41547

Based, silver is at a good value now, Ray Dalio is also a genius his article is eye opening.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/big-cycles-over-last-500-years-ray-dalio

I'm gonna finish my debt and start collecting bullion inshaAllah.

What about guns to protect that lol?

>>41546

I put all my money into gold and then got my electricity and water cut off because the utility companies wouldn't take my gold as payment. Then I got laughed out of the grocery store and my car got reposessed. So now I'm sitting in the dark, haven't bathed in weeks, and am starving to death. Good job, gold.

>>41552

At a future date, I could go to the grocery store and buy a loaf of bread for 50 dollars. Wow, I thought, it was only 20 dollars last week. This is strange. The value of my gold that I own remains constant with what commodities it is able to buy, once I convert it over to dollars. After I convert it I have to run to the grocery store as fast as I can before they raise the prices. Good job, gold.

>>41549

Just hide it in a clever place that no one would ever think to look. Even if your house is ransacked they wouldn't be able to find it. Guns are also a good idea.

>>41553

If you have to convert it to USD in order for it to be useful, then what's the point? Also, a loaf of bread is $1.20. Your fantasies of collapse are never going to come true.

>>41553

>>41555

You keep enough cash on hand for monthly expenses of course. But at least 30% of your savings should be in gold imo. It's not to use it as a currency but a stable store of value, kinda like real estate. Every year cash loses around 2% of its value, gold increases 2%, so gold keeps your money's value stable. This is basic finance. Cope & enjoy your riba infested toilet paper.

>>41556

>We are running over a 4 trillion dollar deficit so far THIS YEAR.

And we have a 20 trillion dollar GDP. If you earn 20 and only spend 4, you're doing fine.

>>41564

>If you earn 20 and only spend 4, you're doing fine.

We earn 20 and spend over 24. That is the definition of a deficit, and it by no means is doing fine. We are 26.5 trillion dollars in debt already.

If you earn 20,000 dollars a year and are 26,500 dollars in debt and then decide to go into 4,000 dollars more debt that year would you be doing fine?

Poem on compilation of Quran by sahaba

Could someone help me identify what recitation style the brother in this video uses when he recites Surah Rahman (@6:17), I want to learn this style.

https://youtu.be/TtH7GRC3G2M?t=377

He sits down with a homeless revert Muslim who's spends most of his day trying to learn the Quran, by cross-referencing between the Quran and a translation/transliteration of the Quran. The brother recites the reverts favourite Surah, Rahman, for him.

>>41766

>We cannot tell LGBT people that what they are doing is haram?

Only if what they're doing is actually haram.

For clarification:

1] Necessary medical treatment - including hormones and surgery - for any condition is not haram. Nobody on this board is qualified to determine what is and is not necessary for the treatment of a transgendered individual.

2] Being homosexual and/or having homosexual urges is not haram. Only actions can be haram. Islam does not have thought crimes.

Personal feelings do not enter into this and this discussion ends now. If you wish to discuss it further, there are other boards, other websites, and other forums where you can debate it over and over, forever and ever, world without end.

>>41767

grow up.

>>41768

Only actions are haram. And you are now openly stating that the policy of this board is that transgenderism and its treatments are not haram. Disputing this is in any way is prohibited. Am I correct?

One time I heard this really cool Islamic gangsta rap on Youtube, it started out with a guy saying in Arabic "hasbi rabi jalallah, mafi qalbi ghairullah, noor e Muhammad salallah, la ilaha ilallah" and then he starts rapping about praying before going into battle, and fighting kaffirs and wanting to be a martyr and stuff, it was pretty cool, it got taken down years ago though, I was wondering if anyone has an mp3 of the song I am describing?

>If Antifa is declared a terrorist organization, then I'll see you all in Gitmo!

BO can you explain yourself? Are you part of antifa?

>>42060

I am Anti-Fascist. That automatically makes me "Antifa". It is an ideology, not an organization.

>>42061