/christianity/ - Christian Theology & Philosophy

I'd say this isn't any more sent by God than any other illness.. just a result of the fall

>>12436

Just another nothing burger as far as I can tell. The virus hasn't killed anyone who wasn't critically unhealthy in the first place. Which is bad, or course, but it's not going to extinguish the human race.

Seems weak for a God sent plague

>Is God about to send a plague on the world?

I hope so.

They received apostolic succession from 'monophysite' churches, the British Orthodox Church rejoined the with the Copts sometime ago then seperated recently not due to any doctrinal reasons as far as i know, just decided to go their own way it seems.

>>12499

cringe

>>9596

Exactly, this is strange and divers doctrines, and could be works-based salvation since it's an additional requirement for a sacrament which are claimed to not be works-based salvation because they're ex opere operato. Both works salvation and strange doctrines are expressly forbidden by the primary sources, especially St. Paul.

Stoicism is great, and arguably fulfils Christ's command, if you love Me, keep My commandments, in light of Christ as Logos. But, salvation and sacraments are by faith alone and by the work done respectively, lest any man should boast.

>>9649

You know under Ephesians 5 we shouldn't even be talking about this, but the man and the woman have not power over their own bodies in marriage. The doctrine of consent was invented to pretend that some fornication is okay and other fornication isn't, but consent does matter to culpability for an act of fornication.

>>10098

straight sex isn’t unclean.

>>10118

Pleeeaze.

ALL sex is unclean, and you're a naïve, repressed virgin to think otherwise.

>>12486

Not if it's done for procreation, that removes the sin from sex..

Great video!

Here's a better one:

https://youtu.be/Ohd5uqzlwsU

If you're neglecting the basics, then reprioritize. It sounds like he just doesn't share your interests (even though he should as a leader) and thinks it's weird.

You should not at all stop studying all topics of theology and I recommend especially indulging in the topics that fascinate you

>>11609

Yeah, he’s a year younger, but he’s been in the church a lot longer and so he knows the walk a lot better than me. Maybe it’s too challenging of a topic for people in their early 20s, even if they have read the Bible. Whenever I’d talk to evangelists they about this stuff it clicked immediately. I mean, secret societies and the occult were the norm since king nimrod up until the crusades. No doubt it still goes on behind closed doors (Looking at you Hollywood). But I guess since it’s too uncanny for churches to say stuff like that in public, he thinks it’s too weird for me to say it too-even though those are two very different scenarios.

I felt like God was laying on my heart that it was important for Christians to be aware of the supernatural. And that the occult isn’t some weird neck beard basement dweller congregation, or a bunch of dirty white people with dreads-they’re affluent, educated, wealthy CEOs, engineers, politicians etc. but what my leader just told me is contradicting that, so was it really God or just the devil distracting me? In the few times the lord has directly communicated with me, he seemed very pleased with the work I’m doing, and told me not to despair. But at the same time, I don’t want judgement to come and have him say he never knew me because I was too busy learning and not going to church. I’m trying my best to humble myself but something about it just isn’t sitting right with me.

>>11606

Any organization that discourages you from thinking and asking questions is trying to sweep inconvenient problems under the rug. This should be self-evident, and I can tell it's self-evident to you. Don't let people make you second-guess yourself, that's classic cult behavior, and you deserve the same intellectual honesty that you are bringing to the table. I won't tell you what to conclude religiously, but I will _strongly_ encourage you to be real with yourself. Truth has nothing to hide.

I was in the same place as you. Actually, I told my discipler that I thought I wouldn't be a good discipler because I focus more on those things than anything else. In time you will change, to care about things to the right proportion. Whether that means less of knowledge or more of walking, I don't know.

>>11824

>>11824

This is by far the most intelligent post on this board.

The flag next to it is clearly promotion of religion.

UPDATE: SCOTUS passed it's ruling on Thursday

<7-2 in favor of American Legion

Summary:

>The Supreme Court issued its ruling on June 20, 2019. In a complex decision with many additional opinions, the Court ruled 7-2 to reverse and remand the Fourth Circuit's decision and allowing the Cross to stand. Justice Samuel Alito, writing for the plurality decision, stated that "The cross is undoubtedly a Christian symbol, but that fact should not blind us to everything else that the Bladensburg Cross has come to represent", and that "destroying or defacing the Cross that has stood undisturbed for nearly a century would not be neutral and would not further the ideals of respect and tolerance embodied in the First Amendment". Alito was joined by Roberts, Breyer, Kagan, and Kavanaugh. Thomas and Gorsuch wrote separate opinions that joined Alito's judgement.

Wikipedia

Al Mohler talked about it today, listen here:

https://albertmohler.com/2019/06/24/briefing-6-24-19

Key takeaways:

>1971 "Lemon Test" for determining violations of establishment clause effectively ended, it was too subjective

>4 arguments in majority opinion:

>1: Historically untenable to retroactively determine that the placement of the cross had motives for establishment of religion

>2: Over time the purposes that are associated with an established monument symbol or practice often multiply

>3: Monuments take on secular symbolism in addition to Christian symbolism (which we affirm the cross is, Christian)

>4: It would be wrong for government to force the taking down of these monuments after so much time.

The hunched jew-corpse woman argued in her dissenting opinion that the presence of the Christian symbol was a harm to secularists. The majority dismissed this.

Daily reminder that the Jews packing the ranks of the secularists won't stop pushing this nonsense until we have nothing left of our civil traditions.

>>7023

Praise God.

>>1576

Nope, it's just a promotion of Roman torture method.

>>10054

Theoretically they could repent. In practice their minds could be dulled and they could be reprobates, but they could also repent.

>>10056

i can’t bring myself to agree so easily. if someone by causing a little one to sin is to be punished more severely than a millstone around the neck and tossed in the sea, how much worse then, and surely, is the punishment for a child killer!

They go into the ground and compost, just like you will, just like everything else that eventually dies.

>>12376

The CoE has been under a ton of pressure from African bishops.

Same with the Roman church.

Why should anyone with an actual spine and working brain give AF what the Church of England thinks about _anything_?

>>12330

The Israeli State is only semi-secular. Netanyahu and his Likud party are the farthest thing from secular. They want to make the Talmud the law of the land, and I think they've been doing that incrementally. Obviously the way the country started is not secular in nature either.

>>12334

The founding was definitely secular, but you're right about the trend towards orthodox Judaism. Maybe it should say "secular/talmudic"

Levites are also Jews. It's weird to see you cite Deuteronomy and Zechariah–even while citing Rev. 2:9–without knowing that basic fact.

ANSWER: Like most political geography in the middle east, it's an early 20th Century British invention, and in this case a result of their triple-dealing.

>>12182

What is the origin of this image. I can't find it anywhere and it looks kinda fake

Sedevecantism would be like saying the Apostles were not appropriate leaders of the infant Church because Peter denied Christ and couldn't walk on water and Christ called him Satan at Caesarea Philippi, or because all of them except John abandoned Him at the cross, or, oh man, did you hear what that Iscariot guy did? My point is the Church has been corrupt and screwing up from the very beginning. Just like Adam and Eve ate the fruit. Just like Noah got drunk. Just like Jacob was a total prick. Just like Moses killed the Egyptian and struck the rock in the wilderness. Just like Samson was tricked by Delilah. Just like David committed adultery. Just like Solomon took concubines and foreign gods. Just like Israel screwed up over and over and over again.

Basically, just because the person or institution God chooses and ordains screws up doesn't mean that that person or institution isn't authentically under divine protection. Yeah, the Catholic Church is going through some bad times… but the worst time to abandon ship is in the middle of a storm. Will the human-led Catholic Church eventually have its authority revoked? Yes. Does it have divine authority right now? Absolutely. Will it antagonize God as the End Times play out? Probably. History repeats.

>"The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."

<The priests and Bishops sit in Peter's chair. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

>>12453

This isn't really directed at your main argument but more your usage of image. The forged Donation of Constantine was very much a matter of an attempt to assume the secular authority of the Empire under the authority of the Bishop of Rome.

>>8725

Esau

Peter.

I don't claim to be a leader in the Church. I simply relate to him a lot.

>>8725

>>12406

>both the Ortho and Catholic identify as racemixers

This has to be trolling right? This is satire tier.

>>8743

This.

>be brought up in the faith with a rudimentary understanding of it

>become gradually mistaken and lose your way

>start persecuting true believers because you think they are wrong

>have a radical conversion experience and come out of it a different person

>harken to your past at all times, constantly joyful for your transformation, but always fearful of losing your salvation

>be verbose and passionate about sharing your faith

>be me

This passage brings to head why I so relate to Paul:

<For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold [m]into bondage to sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.

<I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

>Romans 7:14-25

Eliah.

>cry louder, you god must be in the bathroom lol

Stop using social media, honestly. I am so much happier because I don't.

>>12367

I might start using 8kun full time just because everywhere else is so degenerate, including cuckchan which is currently overrun with fedoras for some reason.

>>12367

First off OP, I must ask unless you are trying to lead lives to Jesus why are you around unrepentant degenerate sinners?

>>12444

>Forgot to add, pic related is for dealing with mistaken believers.

Jesus film is great. It's one of the most widely translated films ever, people see this in remote places who don't have bibles

Thanks for the post. I'll check it out