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af9f5e No.11651 [Open thread]

Do you have to go to Church today if you already went during the night between 24th and 25th? Question coming from a Catholic.

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af9f5e No.11653

>>11652

I'm asking if 26th is a Holy Day of Obligation. A day where you have to go to Church or you get a mortal sin on your soul.

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502069 No.11654

>>11653

There's no such thing. That's stupid.

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af9f5e No.11655

>>11654

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_day_of_obligation

>In the Catholic Church, holy days of obligation (also called holydays, holidays, or days of obligation) are days on which the faithful are expected to attend Mass, and engage in rest from work and recreation, according to the Third Commandment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin

>A mortal sin (Latin: peccatum mortale), in Catholic theology, is a gravely sinful act, which can lead to damnation if a person does not repent of the sin before death. A sin is considered to be "mortal" when its quality is such that it leads to a separation of that person from God's saving grace. The sins against the Holy Ghost and the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance are considered especially serious.[1] This type of sin should be distinguished from a venial sin that simply leads to a weakening of a person's relationship with God. Despite its gravity, a person can repent of having committed a mortal sin. Such repentance is the primary requisite for forgiveness and absolution.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin#Actions_constituting_grave_matter

>Missing Mass

>"[T]he faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor. Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin."[47]

>"Even if in the earliest times [Mass attendance] was not judged necessary to be prescriptive, the Church has not ceased to confirm this obligation of conscience, which rises from the inner need felt so strongly by the Christians of the first centuries. It was only later, faced with the half-heartedness or negligence of some, that the Church had to make explicit the duty to attend Sunday Mass: more often than not, this was done in the formPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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502069 No.11656

>>11655

I know Roman catholics say it. It's stupid and wrong.

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000000 No.11668

>>11651

Just follow your heart. It's where The Lord is.

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21a4c5 No.11485 [Open thread]

God made me both extremely ugly and profoundly stupid. Because of this, I'm an incel. But I'm not bitter about it. I'm actually quite content with it and I have nothing against women. I'm sexually attracted to women but, assuming there is anyone out there who might find me attractive, I don't even think I would want to be romantically involved because I can't really relate to anyone or express my emotions and the idea of physical closeness makes me cringe. Also I know I would never be able to fulfill all of my hypothetical partner's needs or live up to their standards. There is truly nobody for me. I think this is a gift though. Celibacy is a noble path that God laid out for many. Our Lord himself was a virgin because he came to save us, not reproduce with us. St. Paul was also an asexual for the Kingdom of God. I think God making me ugly and stupid and repulsed by emotions is a gift and I think being an incel is a gift. It allows me to focus on God more instead of a romantic partner. If you're an incel, embrace it. God has gifted you! Perhaps one day, if I feel I am being called to it, I'll become a monk. But I don't know yet. I don't know where God is leading me.

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6b2b5a No.11486

Paul wasn't asexual, he was celibate. I think that's what you meant anyway.

I hope your analysis of your situation is accurate because it would be an awful shame if you never married when you're capable and there are fine Christian women who would marry you. Same for anyone else in your situation.

>If you're an incel, embrace it. God has gifted you!

You should say "unmarried". An incel is one who wants sexual activity (married or not) but can't achieve it for whatever reason. Someone who's in that situation, say for some physical deformity, wasn't gifted by God in his deformity, but you're right that in his unmarriedness he can serve the Lord.

My 2¢

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810b1f No.11488

As the previous anon pointed out, "an incel is one who wants sexual activity but can't achieve it". It literally means "involuntary celibate". The term originated in wizard imageboards. The correct term here would be "volcel", meaning "voluntary celibate". It used to describe the wiz-anons who were happy with being wizards.

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d48fc8 No.11503

File: b8b6dae3a34bc73⋯.jpg (322.6 KB,850x743,850:743,1572746654977.jpg)

>>11485

>I don't know where God would lead me

Neither do i, yet i'm a 8/10 120 IQ omega male. Been an incel all my life and to do Gospels is how i managed so far.

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23156c No.11647

>>11486

This.

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a57cd5 No.11628 [Open thread]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR Jesus

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

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7a01d7 No.11632

>>11628

MERRY CHRISTMAS ANONS!

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032561 No.11635

Merry Christmas Anons :)

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4c6193 No.11636

Merry Christmas

Praise Jesus

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00c13c No.11637

>>11628

I love you Jesus. Happy birthday.

Merry Christmas! Happy New Year!

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099fd9 No.11638

File: f6683184b9bf86c⋯.png (2.06 MB,1499x800,1499:800,co christmas card 2019.png)

File: 6d0fe9affdf36da⋯.png (2.23 MB,1499x800,1499:800,co christmas card - bunker….png)

A very merry Christmas to you, /christianity/, from /co/!

We had some strong disagreements on how heavily we should reference this year's troubles, so we got two cards.

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8084cd No.11479 [Open thread]

What are you guys going to be doing for Christmas 2019? :)

(Also I really hope Jesus comes back and defeats the homosexuals in the new decade)

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75f5d0 No.11621

>>11479

Recognizing that this is a holy day in remembrance of Jesus Christ, have splendid feast with the family, and presents the day after, again while thanking God for all that we have.

on a minor note, also pray that the other christian board gets some mods. This one to if this one doesn't have them (haven't got the chance to see them in action here yet, but definitely have seen the inaction of mods in the other).

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cd18aa No.11622

>>11621

I'm here. Merry Christmas!

Anyone else who would like to volunteer for our board can reach me at christchannel@pm.me

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75f5d0 No.11623

>>11622

Merry Christmas to you as well and this is absolutely fantastic and reassuring to hear.

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0cbb7f No.11633

File: b657bd498b3b7d6⋯.jpg (26.56 KB,618x341,618:341,birth-of-Christ.jpg)

Merry Christmas everyone. Christ is born!

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b328ed No.11634

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

>>11622

Merry Christmas BO and thanks for being a based BO and sticking with us through these times!

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87bf0e No.11522 [Open thread]

Considering that the nature of men is to have a certain level of testosterone, and that this level has been plummeting down for years due to various reasons, we now see lots of men that could be considered lesser men. Part of it is their fault, part of it is the corruption of their body by external factors.

How christian is self TRT then, since it doesn't alter the nature of man, but instead fights against the very same factors that do?

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d8681c No.11526

>>11522

It's ok if you're got a doctors permission. Otherwise you're gotta deal with the situation God has given you.

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7c2b6a No.11567

I don't know of anything in the Bible that could be reasonably construed to prohibit it, though you should be prudent and not rush into it without understanding what its effects will be.

>>11526

>It's ok if you're got a doctors permission.

What is the scriptural basis for this limitation?

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d8681c No.11568

>>11567

Is it illegal? Romans 13.

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495de1 No.11572

>>11567

>What is the scriptural basis for this limitation?

Not being a prideful sinner that might ruin his body by doing ad-hoc DYI medical treatments without a firm understanding of the present values of your internal chemistry, and if it's even a recommended medical treatment for you, personally?

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d8681c No.11618

>>11522

You could get roid rage or have a undiagnosed heart problem like Zyzz and die.

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682ecf No.10921 [Open thread]

>at our church, we preach from the BIBLE and sing from the HYMNAL amen

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97cd6a No.10944

AMEN

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de9f4a No.11599

Amen brother

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e59655 No.11273 [Open thread]

i have been irreligious for the last ten years. I was raised a Pentecostal Christian and baptized as a Moravian Christian.

I committed a grave sin lately, the guilt and shame is killing me. There is a Greek Orthodox Church near me and I am thinking about going. Has anyone here converted to Orthodox rather than have been born into and can give me some advice?

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68543e No.11439

>>11350

Only ELCA. ELCA is garbage. Other Lutheran denominations joke that ELCA actually stands for "Everything Luther Cautioned Against." WELS and LCMS are both very good churches. I actually like LCMS a lot. I don't belong to any particular denomination, but if I had to pick one, LCMS would be my first choice.

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16e355 No.11451

>>11437

Neither one, what are you referring to?

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1b0d5c No.11478

>>11273

Go talk to the priest and let him handle everything, fren

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e29e3a No.11530

>>11276

>You should be skeptical of the greek orthodox church. They are rife with corruption, cozy with liberal politicians

By "Greek Orthodox Church" the anon meant 'a place of worship of the true God near the place he lives'. The Body of Christ, on the other hand, is the One Holy, Universal and Apostolic Church, the Orthodox Church. It is neither Greek, nor Hebrew, nor of any other nationality on Earth because There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Gal. 3:28)

>Martin Luther and evangelical protestantism has the answer you need, because it's the answer from the Bible. Luther was overwhelmed with anguish as a sinner under God's judgment until he found the answer that salvation is by faith, "sola fide".

The Catholics believe in a God who has commanded some rules to determine who will be admitted in the heaven and who won't be. A bad person who follows the rules will go to heavens (for example a bad person who buys his absolution). But if someone has not followed the rules, then he is condemned by God for eternity.

The Protestants believe in God who condemns for eternity a good person who doesn't believe in Christ and admits in the heavens a bad person who says he believes in Christ and salvation by faith only.

Both conceptions are ethically objectionable, but more importantly they both are utopia and impossible. Look at the people around you and see how much suffering is caused by sins. Hatred, depression, strive for vanity, lack of compassion, ignorance, etc. If you place all these people with their passions in the heavens then the heavens will become hell.

The Orthodox do not believe in God who has sent his Son to be killed so that he can be satisfied by the blood of his son and allow sinners in the heavens. We believe in God who has sent his Son to be killed so that we may be healed from our sins. Salvation means healing and restoration of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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868b48 No.11598

>>11530

>The Protestants believe in God who condemns for eternity a good person who doesn't believe in Christ and admits in the heavens a bad person who says he believes in Christ and salvation by faith only.

There is none righteous, no not one

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d8f6f2 No.11590 [Open thread]

We need a separate board just for trad catholic IMO

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e4e82c No.11591

Nobody is stopping you

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69f261 No.11594

File: 8dd9bbfe4a07daf⋯.jpg (1.84 MB,2121x1414,3:2,catholic.jpg)

>>11590

The Catholic church is the original one that all of the other churches have broken free of, or are based on. Whether or not you like Catholic church is fine. If you want to have finer discussions of different faiths within Christianity. You really aught to make another board just for that faith. Christians all share the same source. Jesus Christ. There are different interpretations along the way. Those have caused endless pain for so many good, kind and faithful believers. Jesus spent time with the sinners. That is where he was needed. Do spend some time with the sinners. Living in an echo chamber will make you become less tolerant of other faithful people.

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92361c No.11595

>>11594

that's a really eerie stock pic

All Christians are still part of the Catholic Church, which is not to be read as synonymous with the Roman Catholic Church

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69f261 No.11596

>>11595

Yep

I believe in one God,

the Father almighty,

maker of heaven and earth,

of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,

the Only Begotten Son of God,

born of the Father before all ages.

God from God, Light from Light,

true God from true God,

begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;

through him all things were made.

For us men and for our salvation

he came down from heaven,

and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,

and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,

he suffered death and was buried,

and rose again on the third day

in accordance with the Scriptures.

He ascended into heaven

and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory

to judge the living and the dead

and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,

who proceeds from the Father and the Son,.

who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,

who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins

and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead

and the life of the world to come.

Amen.

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54bddf No.5538 [Open thread]

Thought I’d make a thread on Christian music.

Anyone hear this album? It’s cover makes it look like generic wal-mart Christian country, but it’s actually a beautiful story told through amazing shoegaze. Definitely worth a listen

Lift to Experience - The Texas Jerusalem Crossroads

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bea846 No.10931

>>8881

Based taste

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f63378 No.11459

>>5538

Based, I'm actually listening to that album right now lol.

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d441e2 No.11473

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I'm wondering if you guys know any Christian old school hardcore?

embed is not herisie but also non-christian btw.

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f18fc0 No.11504

>>5538

https://youtu.be/bepPFNnaviA

Is this christian music?

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8e2f03 No.11589

>>11473

Sadly no. But Middle Class were one of the best and earliest hardcore bands. First super-fast band. But I don't know of s single \Christian band from early hardcore and I followed it pretty closely. Circle Jerks were Jews.

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421bb8 No.2 [Open thread]

I noticed /christian/ had a lot of censorship so I'm starting a new board. I promise not to delete anything simply because I disagree.

Guidelines

1. Christians who follow the Nicene Creed are all welcome
2. Non-believers who are interested in Christianity are welcome
3. Try to be civil
4. Trolls may be welcome, but spam is not

Rules:
1. Nothing illegal
2. No censorship unless the moderator leaves a post as to what was deleted.

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. -John 8:32
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7b7ea5 No.2911

>>2892

lol so why did you bump it

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7762e3 No.5288

OP why not sticky this?

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bf15e8 No.5295

>>5288

It's outdated, a new meta thread was made, and a static rule page is linked at the top, which is better than a sticky as it doesn't get in the way of the real discussions

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2e47e2 No.11561

i suppose my main question would be, what's this board owner's denominational background

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752200 No.11588

>>11562

Based and non-denominational pill!

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fc9f86 No.11571 [Open thread]

Would of been best back then if the Catholic Church were to secularize the Pagan holidays and give them a different day away from the Christian holidays?

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d12e93 No.11573

No, because the secular holidays wouldn't have been secular. The pagans would have retained their old beliefs. If you're going to celebrate a day of worship, you might as well be worshiping the one, true God and be doing it in a Church-approved way.

It's a good thing that most people only have a vague sense of the pagan origins of many holiday practices – it means that the Church effectively stamped out those forms of pagan worship. Regardless, most of the practices on Christian holidays aren't as pagan as modern secularists seem to think they are.

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ca64a2 No.11576

It's a good thing that European (and other native) pre-Christian traditions are reformatted to a Christian purpose, as long as there's nothing wrong with the tradition in the first place.

The church obviously can't tell a newly converted Christian people that there's nothing wrong with an idolatrous non-Christian religious practice

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84b43b No.11533 [Open thread]

Why are there 2 different boards? Which one is legit? Which one is larping? Which one should I belong to?

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8a6a07 No.11544

>>11542

Hmm. You are correct. It didn't occur to me that the movement can go also in the opposite direction – from /christian(ity)/ to the other boards.

Nevertheless, random folks will come here all the time, while it will be unlikely to see many casual visitors at christchannel.xyz.

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7fcb33 No.11545

Anyone know what happened to christchannel?

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7fcb33 No.11548

>>11545

nvm it's back up

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13f9dc No.11555

/christian/ is where disillusioned and/or bored Protestants go to LARP as Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox. /christianity/ is where smug Protestants go to s—post when they're not reading the Bible. Trying to have serious discussions about theology on the internet never works out well. I had to learn that the hard way. I'm still trying to unlearn all of the flawed meme theology I picked up from barely literate slavs and cholos online.

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455a80 No.11557

>>11555

Poo-pooing it like this makes you part of the problem

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913cae No.4311 [Open thread]

Without giving too much detail, there's a low chance I will make it to May 2020. I don't know what to do.

My physical affairs are in order already, I don't have kids, I'm going to leave what I have to my parents

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1d3ecc No.7793

Attend a Church of God church where they don't let pride get in the way of following through on New testament teachings and practices of coming to you and praying for you, the NT teaches us to call for the elders of the church to pray for the sick that they may recover. Of course using your wisdom and what God has given us with the medical help of our time, and knowledge. Surround yourself with people that love God, and are full of faith to pray for you and support you, I hope you can. Meditate on God's word in regards to faith, healing, a lot of the psalms address this and the four gospels. No one knows what the future holds for sure besides God, he said that he is near to the brokenhearted and he hears those that call on him in truth. If you haven't received him in a personal relationship, which has always been his heart and intent, that he died for (John 3:16) then pray in faith in his son Jesus to receive him. He loves you personally, he said he knows the numbers of hair on our head, meaning he knows us intimately. Hope you will be comforted in this time of your life and pray for your healing and peace and guidance.

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838343 No.11463

If I found out I was dying from a terminal illness, spend my last days soaking up the new testament, outside of worldly influences, wrap me in a blanket and bury me, with a cross made of wood as my tomb stone, I couldn't care about having a million people at my funeral with eulogies about how "great" I was, because I wasn't.. I'm a Christian because I've lived 30 mortal years as a bad person

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506e08 No.11505

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>>4369

Why taking chances to hell if you actually met Jesus if you died naturally?

The risks is infinitely bigger than what you'd gain (let it all go a bit faster)

Also have you concluded what your life meant so far before the sweet release of death take you away indefintely?

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4d2270 No.11511

>posting emasculated anime

>but dude whamen can be veterans too

get f—ed

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be342a No.11553

>>4370

Thank you for this post. Are there other places online people like you hang out?

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a1ba70 No.11489 [Open thread]

I've been really embarrassed to explain my situation for a long time but here it goes. So I have lapsed from the faith. I'm not going to make any excuses for myself because I still believe I just haven't been practicing. It was 5 years ago when I decided to convert to Catholicism after having been an Independent Baptist for a while. But here's the thing… I think the priest screwed up my conversion. On the day I was supposed to be received into the Church, take communion and all that, well the priest invited me up for communion and I took it but he never initiated the rite of reception. The priest just gave me communion and said I was Catholic now. (I wasn't confirmed immediately then, I was put into a confirmation class and the priest told me after a certain period of time I'd be confirmed but I ended up lapsing during this time and was never confirmed). So I want to go back to the faith now but… I don't even know if I was really Catholic in the first place. For the first year after my "reception" I actually wasn't even aware of it and continued to attend Mass and receive communion and go to confession. But I eventually found out about how I should have been received formally into the Catholic Church… So was I never really Catholic after all? I want to come back to the faith but I'm embarrassed to explain my situation to a priest and I just want some feedback from you guys. Thank you and may God bless you.

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5022c5 No.11501

How can you honestly read the Bible and arrive at all these bizarre technical requirements.

Do you believe on Jesus for salvation? You're a Christian, and part of the catholic church. Do you affirm the three creeds and the seven councils? That's a good pinch test to conclude that you're orthodox.

The arbitrary rules of Rome have nothing to do with that.

My advice to you is to leave the RCC thankful that you were never really indoctrinated. Return to a Baptist church that appreciates church history, Lord knows the overzealous fundamentalist crowd is lacking in that area. I imagine that's a contributing factor in your church hopping.

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ee6efe No.11502

Do you remember if the Baptist pastor baptised you correctly? Do you have a baptismal certificate? Tell a priest about your circumstances.

>>11501

Faith is all that is nescisary but the content of that faith is do to the will of God which implies good works since we're not simply disembodied entities one knows best how to.

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5022c5 No.11506

>>11502

>Faith is all that is nescisary but the content of that faith is do to the will of God which implies good works since we're not simply disembodied entities one knows best how to.

Yes. No Protestant would disagree. And speaking of good works, the Bible is sufficient for every good work (2 Tim 3)

If it's necessary, you would get there from the Bible.

I'm not objecting to membership criteria and baptism certificates, I'm saying that these weird requirements in OPs situation don't make sense

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a6205b No.11457 [Open thread]

Recently i've stumbled upon this individual's website

http://bibletranslation.ws/

And saw that he has many interesting and free things and tools like koine greek Gospels translated verse by verse side by side for example.

In fact i was looking for reading the original NT texts in their exat originals when i stumbled upon the website

But i'm interested, on a scale from 0 to 10 just how exactly reliable is he as a scholar and how much truth is there in his research of Scripture?

Also, is there such a thing as the complete readable Bible all written in original koine?

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e5b4d8 No.11471

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNA34iBGJPs

also search amazon for a textus receptus new testament bible, you can buy them there

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447ef8 No.11475

I've been reading the Septuagint and would like to know why Nod in every Greek dictionary translates to Yes?

>16. And Cain came out of the face of God and dwelt in the land of Yes, opposite the land of Eden.

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a6205b No.11480

>>11470

Yes but it's not the same. Translations dilute the original meaning very much which i why i prefer the original rather than the copy. Is there at least any manuscript of the OT or the NT in the original languages? Like Hebrew for OT and Aramaic for NT?

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29af29 No.11482

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>>11480

>NT original language is Koine Greek. OT is mixed, but mostly Hebrew. You can get them. I personally use a Green's Interlinear Bible with an original Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. You can also get Jewish Tanakh's that have the original Hebrew side by side with their English translation. While not actually scripture, I have a copy of The Apostolic Fathers with the original language (mostly Koine Greek, but also a little Latin and Syriac) on one page, and English on the facing page. This stuff is definitely out there, just just have to take a few seconds to google it.

>I highly recommend Strong's. It lets you go back to the original language even if all you have is a KJV bible. Go with the original Strong's, not the "Strong's New…" It's been f—ed with by nefarious types (pic related.)

I'm getting errors. I hoping this doesn't double or trople post. If so, my apologies.

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29af29 No.11484

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It made everything quoted? Thanks Cuckmonkey.

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