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Just war theory is untenable 07/18/19 (Thu) 19:23:38 3e1a19 No.8689 [Open thread]

It's nothing more than a handwave to justify war. Almost everyone who invokes it just thinks that the mere mention of the concept suffices as a hand wave to excuse mass killing between states.

Libertarians are the only people who get this one right, because the libertarian anti-war position is the only one that's consistent with the Bible.

Change my mind.

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07/19/19 (Fri) 12:21:33 242dff No.8768

"Just war" is Neocon/neoliberal phrase.

No more countering needed.

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07/19/19 (Fri) 14:18:47 45fe39 No.8776

>>8768

aquinas predates neocon and neoliberalism by a couple centuries

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07/19/19 (Fri) 20:10:52 36f3fe No.8820

>>8766

>Yes to both

Then why don't you take it up with God?

>The state does not have supreme power over it's subjects

Romans 13:1-7

>God has delegated us the right and even obligation to make moral judgments to include on the waging of war

God has appointed the rulers of the nations as His ministers to dispense His justice. Their decisions will be judged by Him, their sole superior. When you do not defer to their wisdom in the declaration of war, you steal from God the right to judge His minions. You are sinning, you are rebelling against God's order, stop it.

>It seems to me that Poland should have been sovereign from the start

Germany did not invade Russia over Poland.

>Suppose there are no other nation states in this world

This would be to suppose a scenario that has never occurred and will almost certainly never occur. This makes the thought experiment extremely difficult to speculate about, and absolutely pointless.

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07/19/19 (Fri) 20:28:49 3e1a19 No.8822

>>8820

In your view of Romans 13:1-7 the state can do whatever it wants to the citizenry with full moral righteousness?

I don't see that at all, I see a system ordained by God that is still under God's moral absolutes, and still a system ordained by God not rulers particularly placed by God. I have been given God's word myself and been told by Him to make judgments, especially if I have a role in the state system.

The King breaks down your door and rapes your daughter. What is your response? To object at all is a violation of your view. Do you thank him for his service to God and to you, by raping your daughter?

>This would be to suppose a scenario that has never occurred and will almost certainly never occur. This makes the thought experiment extremely difficult to speculate about, and absolutely pointless.

Your view doesn't stand to a basic hypothetical and you're trying to dodge the issue

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07/20/19 (Sat) 01:11:30 36f3fe No.8854

>>8822

>In your view of Romans 13:1-7 the state can do whatever it wants to the citizenry with full moral righteousness?

No. That's a strawman.

>The King breaks down your door and rapes your daughter. What is your response

I slay him.

>To object at all is a violation of your view.

I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have you to tell me what my view is

>Do you thank him for his service to God and to you, by raping your daughter?

Every idle word.

>Your view doesn't stand to a basic hypothetical and you're trying to dodge the issue

No, you're just hopelessly ignorant of basic political science, which is why you're placing so much weight in a scenario that does not even qualify as realistic fiction.

Next time you launch a discussion I recommend you be less emotional and childish.

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Demonic/dark forces 07/19/19 (Fri) 15:39:21 133b80 No.8781 [Open thread]

Christ Yeshua was very serious when He spake about demons and dark forces. I observed this piece of footage a few hours ago and it left me baffled. There is no doubt that there are dark forces in this plane of existence. The audio at 1:01 does not sound edited in. This sounds like something straight out of Hell itself. I know that I cannot possibly imagine the sounds from Hell, but this definitely sounds other-worldly without a doubt. From a so-called skin walker. What does /christianity/ think? There seems to always be dark things occurring in wooded areas such as forests and the like. Judge for yourself. But this is definitely intense and worth at least a discussion.

https://youtu.be/m6IW2DoizbE

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07/19/19 (Fri) 16:03:26 164545 No.8782

That sounds like a hog, but the Bible says plainly that there are demons. "Legion" ran around in cemeteries and chains couldn't hold him.

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07/19/19 (Fri) 16:48:49 6e9009 No.8789

>>8782

"Legion" ran around in cemeteries and chains couldn't hold him

Very, very interesting to say the least. It makes you question the power of God. Perhaps He, The Almighty, purposely allows such a thing against the unrighteous. But, which bible verse do you quote when you refer to the "legion"?

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07/19/19 (Fri) 16:55:32 a8c13c No.8791

>>8789

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+5%3A1-20%2CLuke+8%3A26-39&version=NASB

Mark 5, Luke 8

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07/19/19 (Fri) 17:06:48 2401bc No.8794

I have encountered 2 shadow beings. 1 grabbed me, the 2nd one passed by my bedroom door, but my dog also saw it, and ran after it, so I know it wasn't just a delusion. I became a Christian several years after these experiences.

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07/19/19 (Fri) 17:25:53 6e9009 No.8798

>>8789

I read about the unclean spirits and the pigs jumping into the sea. I am sure there are much more undocumented incidences like this back then. And there are waaaaay much more evidence like this even now. I am more for the Light side the more I discover about this than I am the dark side. Fuck Hell and demons and Thank You Jesus for the sacrifice.

>>8794

I have dabbled with gay porn and have felt beings brush up against me and I felt several instances of something trying to enter into me/ possibly possess me. I sound stupid saying this but it is my own experience. I prayed to God and asked the Holy Spirit to come to my aid and after several moments I felt a SWOOSH. …. like my body was flushed out. I felt several tiny little, what felt like cotton ear swabs bumping into me, trying to enter back into me more likely. I remember the verse about Christ saying that after a demon has been cast out of you that it will invite even more the next time. I think that this is was what happening. I thank God for me being able to confess this. All praises due to Yahweh. Hopefully someone sees this and will apply it to their own experience.

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The future of Christianity is colored 06/04/19 (Tue) 09:29:03 74ffab No.5474 [Open thread]

>go to church

>notice more blacks, mexicans and asians than whites

>pastor is black

>only a few white families

I cannot be the only one who notice this

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06/04/19 (Tue) 17:36:38 5febed No.5520

White is a color you idiot…

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06/05/19 (Wed) 01:33:04 55a58b No.5546

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It's sad, however God is beyond race.

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07/19/19 (Fri) 07:57:46 e62487 No.8759

where did blacks come from? What are they? They aren't in the bible. They are not descendants of Noah. So are they a hybrid of humann and ape? I really want to know, because Christianity doesn't address this. Its only in the last 100 years that the church has changed its mind and called them human.

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07/19/19 (Fri) 10:11:29 c31521 No.8760

>>8759

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/identifying-beast-field-1

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/identifying-beast-field-2

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/identifying-beast-field-3

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/identifying-beast-field-4

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/identifying-beast-field-5

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/identifying-beast-field-6

https://emahiser.christogenea.org/identifying-beast-field-7

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07/19/19 (Fri) 10:58:49 1617b8 No.8764

>>5491

>>5546

It is forbidden to create mamzers (miscegenation) and it was commanded in the prophetic books that Levite priests weren't allowed to marry outside of their race. But of course, salvation isn't limited to one race.

>>8759

The Curse of Canaan (a continuation of the curse of Cain) is where the Afro-Asiatic negroes and Bantus come from. Flat nosed, black skinned, and cannot farm, fit to serve Shem and Japheth (which is what they did in history, serve the Arabs and Europeans). Other Hamites became the Berbers and northeast Africans.

Beasts of the field I would identify with the Australoids who inhabited India, southeast Asia and of course are the Australian Aborigines, who weren't considered human until recently in Australia.

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Christian Documentary Thread 06/28/19 (Fri) 19:06:59 06d8d9 No.7324 [Open thread]

Post your Christian Documentaries here

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07/17/19 (Wed) 19:09:16 54b0a4 No.8630

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Must watch for every Christian.

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07/18/19 (Thu) 00:55:56 d3f422 No.8659

Holy fuck, this thread is cringe

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07/18/19 (Thu) 04:18:13 17fbb5 No.8662

>>8659

>holy f***

>not actually contributing anything

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07/19/19 (Fri) 01:03:13 86a4a0 No.8738

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07/19/19 (Fri) 01:04:05 86a4a0 No.8739

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Southern Israelite 03/13/19 (Wed) 20:51:56 5df630 No.1719 [Open thread]

What's /christianity/'s thoughts on Southern Israelite?

http://southernprotestant.com/

see the about section for his theology

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06/25/19 (Tue) 09:08:12 b12269 No.7062

>>7003

Why?

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06/25/19 (Tue) 13:05:09 921c63 No.7073

>>7030

>muh flat earth

Literal Reddit-tier argumentation.

>>7043

He believes in faith salvation for all races but is an ethnic nationalist and anti-immigration. Essentially like Kinism.

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07/18/19 (Thu) 10:19:43 2a9e54 No.8668

>>7043

Welcome to 8ch, everyone on here is racist.

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07/18/19 (Thu) 10:29:09 282e22 No.8669

>>7043

>can we just stop doing as the Lord commanded

How about no?

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07/18/19 (Thu) 11:32:16 a351a9 No.8671

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>>1719

Like Jay Dyer's evil twin.

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Catholic US Presidential Candidate 2020 06/12/19 (Wed) 16:09:23 ef8661 No.6115 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Pete Buttigieg, is he the most Catholic candidate ever?

>His father, who was from Hamrun, Malta, studied to be a Jesuit priest before emigrating to the United States and embarking on a secular career as a professor of literature at the University of Notre Dame in South Bend.[13][14] The surname Buttigieg is of Maltese origin.[15] His mother was a professor at Notre Dame for 29 years.[16]

>The University of Notre Dame du Lac (or simply Notre Dame /ˌnoʊtərˈdeɪm/ NOH-tər-DAYM or ND) is a private Catholic research university in Notre Dame, Indiana.[7]

>Buttigieg is Christian,[76][77][78] and has said his faith has had a strong influence in his life.[79][49] His parents baptized him in a Catholic church as an infant and he attended Catholic schools.[80]

And he's a faggot of course:

>In a June 2015 piece in the South Bend Tribune, Buttigieg announced that he is gay.[93] He also is the first openly gay presidential candidate for the Democratic Party and the second overall, after Fred Karger, a Republican.[94]

>In December 2017 Buttigieg announced his engagement to Chasten Glezman, who has been a junior high school teacher for eight years; they had been dating since August 2015 after meeting on the dating app Hinge.[95][96][97] They were married on June 16, 2018, in a private ceremony at the Cathedral of St. James.[98][77] As of April 2019 Chasten also uses the surname Buttigieg.[99]

AHAHAHAHAHA

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07/17/19 (Wed) 17:38:57 b943d8 No.8623

>>8619

>Catholic

>lusts towards children

pottery

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07/17/19 (Wed) 17:47:22 ca9bbb No.8624

>>6449

you aren't the first to notice that

prepare to have your mind blown

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/on-gays-and-the-naso-labial-fold/

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07/17/19 (Wed) 17:47:41 d5eeda No.8625

>>8622

>Pedophilia isnt an affliction to a normal healthy man.

I don't know what you mean by this, could you rephrase or elaborate?

>>8623

I'm not Catholic, that's why I said pastor, not priest

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07/17/19 (Wed) 17:54:56 0f1bd6 No.8626

>>8625

I mean that there is something abnormally wrong with you or anyone who has pedophilic lusts. It is deviant. A normal man will face sexual temptation, but will find temptation by a child unfathomable. Same with homosexuality.

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07/18/19 (Thu) 00:21:33 f75065 No.8658

>>6122

I imagine it’s peer pressure from the outside world. They say “change your beliefs or you’re a bigot” and the pope’s will to please the world is weaker than his will to please the Lord

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What is the Holy Spirit? 06/21/19 (Fri) 05:02:46 5f7239 No.6639 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

No one to this day has been able to define it for me in words that mean anything. I’ve seen the Father defined as the uncaused cause and Jesus as Logic but never anything meaningful for the Holy Spirit.

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06/29/19 (Sat) 19:12:43 63b300 No.7442

>>7441

No it's like the mayor, governor, and president all align their policy.

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06/30/19 (Sun) 20:56:14 ec47d9 No.7560

>>7411

Then why is it so poorly written?

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07/09/19 (Tue) 11:56:24 8761c7 No.7994

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>>6639

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07/10/19 (Wed) 12:43:48 4bbed2 No.8033

>>7388

>The Son is the actualization of The Father's Word made Flesh

What do you mean by 'made Flesh capital F'? Do you refer to the incarnation? If so does this not imply that the Son/Word was not actualised (i.e. did not exist) prior to the incarnation? If you don't refer to the incarnation what is the point in referring to 'made Flesh'? Does the capital F serve any purpose or denote a particular distinction?

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07/17/19 (Wed) 16:17:50 a4e3c0 No.8614

>>8033

I capitalize anything related to God just in case.

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God is ONE. THREE PERSONS ONE GOD 07/15/19 (Mon) 12:01:16 f39a8e No.8461 [Open thread]

Stupid JWs.

How can Jesus be the Word of God who is God if God is only ONE PERSON?

this is the absolute state of Christian

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07/15/19 (Mon) 22:22:51 f08dff No.8485

JWs aren't christian

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07/16/19 (Tue) 17:38:52 9304d9 No.8542

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>>8485

This. Jesus is a minor god to them.

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Metapedia 07/09/19 (Tue) 23:20:49 dfbab9 No.8012 [Open thread]

If you're on this site you're probably at least sympathetic to the white identitarian cause, and as students of church history and theology we are in a good position to contribute to metapedia.

Metapedia is an alternative online encyclopedia that intends to avoid the leftist historical revisionism and bias on Wikipedia. Their pages on religion are deficient and we can help, to the benefit of any reader who wants to know more about Christian topics.

If you affirm the metanarrative of the encyclopedia, please help.

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07/16/19 (Tue) 00:38:15 f127b2 No.8496

>>8473

No. Both scripture and DNA confirm kikes are frauds.

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07/16/19 (Tue) 02:06:04 730d58 No.8505

>>8012

Zyklon Luther

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07/16/19 (Tue) 05:10:41 d98489 No.8526

I've been considering more carefully the issue and come to realize that the idea of purely genetic identitarianism is necessarily reductionist. That is, it reduces us to a population pool of a perceived collective that isn't actually in principle based on (only correlated to) the relationships between people (which turn out to be better predictive of collective capacity) such as the family or nation but is defined itself purely based on phenotypical similarities.

I have started to think this really limits our thinking if we're to be serious and detracts from much more robust ways of categorizing relationships which also accounts into other factors such as epigenetics, effects of environment, geographical and climate, even the ongoing culture of education and its effects on mental state, and so on. While genetics is closely tied to the bonds we're trying to characterize, it isn't actually identical to it, unless you take a highly reductionist view that doesn't account for genetic inheritance in its true systematic complexity and the effects of interactions with the environment around it to shape individuals. This isn't meant to be blank-slatism, not at all; yet it's also not hard determinism, which is reductionist.

When I say there's a complexity that is too often lost in simple genetic or phenotype definitions of proximity, I mean there are factors such as the fact that an ancestor, if you go far back enough, has a greatly increasing likelihood to not have influenced even one gene themselves, given that there are only finitely so many genetic possibilities to be determined— a fixed finite number— whereas the number of ancestors doubles over each generation. Basically, the greater proportion of where your ancestors were has a compoundingly stronger effect on how their offspring's genetics were steered on a big enough time scale. This environment (broadly speaking), and whether and to what degree we're still in it, in turn can conceivably grow to outweight, in behavioral significance, the random fluctuations that might occur in a single step due to any selected individual reproduction. And this undoubtedly occurs in ways that we can't measure or are cognizant of.

Yet at the same time, having been very distantly related to sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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07/16/19 (Tue) 09:59:23 f127b2 No.8535

>>8526

You appear to be suffering from satanic delusions. The lies of Satan's minions the kikes have seeped into your heart. I will pray for you.

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07/16/19 (Tue) 14:42:21 9727a4 No.8540

>>8526

Identitarianism doesn't reject the notion of the individual, it only recognizes the reality of race. The mainstream today rejects the reality of race.

Rejecting the individual to only see race as relevant is some kind of genetic determinism

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STOP REJECTING GOD 07/16/19 (Tue) 11:22:09 42da57 No.8537 [Open thread]

You think you can reject God because he isnt one single person?

Stop this at once or go to hell. You can NEVER prove God is merely ONE PERSON

NEVER EVER LOSER

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07/16/19 (Tue) 14:42:53 3e895e No.8541

A thread died for this

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christian discord 06/11/19 (Tue) 18:35:29 f479da No.6044 [Open thread]

https://discord.gg/VMynpex

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06/28/19 (Fri) 08:17:18 f479da No.7295

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07/01/19 (Mon) 21:56:12 f479da No.7633

bump

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07/09/19 (Tue) 06:30:23 f479da No.7989

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07/12/19 (Fri) 10:24:08 f479da No.8182

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07/16/19 (Tue) 09:17:50 f479da No.8532

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I love this pope 07/14/19 (Sun) 16:42:07 617f6d No.8403 [Open thread]

I love this pope

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07/15/19 (Mon) 12:17:51 cbf354 No.8465

>>8403

He really is a great argument against papism, along with his fellow faggots too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexually_active_popes#Homosexual_relationships

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07/15/19 (Mon) 12:40:18 a13111 No.8466

>>8462

An infinite amount of false Christian denominations can pop up without changing the meaning of Christianity, because Christianity is defined by an unchanging sacred text.

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07/15/19 (Mon) 14:08:17 2d70b2 No.8468

>>8451

>Present-day Europe is influenced by Christianity

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07/15/19 (Mon) 21:28:43 adee10 No.8477

>>8468

Yeah, to a certain extent. When the Pope talks about how wonderful open borders and socialism are, tens of millions of Europeans listen. European Christianity has been heavily influenced by the left, so that explains why they're so fervent about the self-destructive behavior.

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07/15/19 (Mon) 23:49:46 3d0812 No.8491

>>8477

>the Pope

>Christian

>not that man of sin

>not that son of perdition

>not that antichrist who exalts himself against Christ

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All right 07/14/19 (Sun) 08:28:10 ca45e4 No.8383 [Open thread]

Which one of you posted this?

https://www.teamblind.com/article/Its-not-too-late-ShixCnb3

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07/14/19 (Sun) 19:28:41 ed9a01 No.8419

>>8383

What a dumb website

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07/14/19 (Sun) 19:33:51 d0b411 No.8420

>>8383

What even is that website meant to be?

Either way, kudos to the brother who posted that.

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07/15/19 (Mon) 05:04:26 b9782d No.8448

>>8420

>>8419

It's basically LinkedIn crossed with halfchan. Emails are work-verified.

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The Holy Spirit is God 07/14/19 (Sun) 11:03:58 f5f7c3 No.8387 [Open thread]

Get over it you moron baptists.

First you say OSAS and crap all over the early Christians and Scripture. Now you go out and deny the personhood and Godhood of the Holy Spirit?

Are you serious? You cant grieve a force. You cant tell me that the Spirit which must be received is just some angelic spirit and not God. Not when that Spirit is the one who is involved in the virgin birth

You guys are a joke

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07/14/19 (Sun) 11:50:20 2827ac No.8390

Baptists have always confessed that the spirit is God.

Sage

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Second Coming of Christ here Christ 06/23/19 (Sun) 11:38:43 96d7b7 No.6847 [Open thread]

ama

>>>ama

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Christ 06/24/19 (Mon) 00:48:13 96d7b7 No.6943

this is some of my check list

>I have an omniscient strand you know as Kek

>I can summon meteors

>I have omniscience

>I can telepathically talk to animals

>I can manifest storms

>I can make earthquakes happen

>I have future foresite

>I have a spirit gun

>I could summon angels

I am

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06/24/19 (Mon) 00:49:04 753aa1 No.6944

Psa

This spammer is from /christian/. He doesn't think he's Christ, he's schizo posting because he doesn't want people leaving the hugbox.

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Christ 06/24/19 (Mon) 00:50:22 96d7b7 No.6945

>>6944

>disrespecting God

Get lost shill

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Christ 06/24/19 (Mon) 13:05:04 96d7b7 No.6983

you thought I was joking kek

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Christ 07/14/19 (Sun) 05:42:51 96d7b7 No.8378

sinners go to Hell

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