/christianity/ - Christian Theology & Philosophy

>>12784

Source for music from first one?

>>12834

Lissy Trullie - Madeleine (Jewellers Remix)

>>12839

Thank you!

>>12784

Also, does original poster or anyone else here know where this video came from, the context of the nurses or artist/editor behind it? Song and image strangely mesh well, but also makes me curious more than ever of the origin of this.

The Apostolic Pentecostal movement is completely seperate from the charasmatic movement.

See attached.

This too.

Arguably, neither Popoff nor Jones are fit to represent Pentecostalism, but both of their ministries originated within it.

Pentecostals are people who can't interpret prophecy very well, and thus don't realize that tongues, prophecy, and healings through ministers ceased to occur early on… Definitely by the time of the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. Why? Because the gifts were a prophetic sign to the Jews that God's favor had left their nation and moved on to the gentiles, and the gifts were supposed to provoke a remnant of Jews to jealousy so that they would follow after the Messiah. I'm not sure what clearer message God could have sent than the Romans. The miraculous gifts would have served their purpose by that time.

>>12478

He probably wouldn't listen to the prays of an imaginary earth atheist

>>12478

>superhero

What is it with anti-Christians and only being able to understand things through pop culture references? >>12478

>>12786

You theists will just never understand. You Christians are just like Kylo Ren while we atheists are like Rey.

>>12788

Atheists are Mary Sues?

>>12799

We're all going back to >>>/christian/ now

>>12771

it was to reduce eye strain.

photons make a good metaphor for good, but they do not literally have morality

>>12800

>The monkey sodomite can't understand metaphorical language

Your retardation transcends boards

>>11806

This.

Plus there is an amazing amount of end times cults that people chase after. Still find them today

https://jimbakkershow.com/ Has of whole line of end times food he's happy to sell you

>>11806

Jesus said in the Bible that we must welcome the coming of the Lord like the wise virgins. If we avoid seeking out the return of the Lord just because we're scared of false Christs, we will fail like the foolish virgins in the parable. We need to accept Almighty God's judgment and chastisement.

There is a whole list of people in China who have died or gotten sick because they were punished by Almighty God for rejecting his incarnation in the last days and spurning his words.

>>12779

KJV is public domain so you aren't jewed your money

>>12779

The KJV is early modern english

>>12745

>Paradise

>Mount Zion

>New Jerusalem

Take your pick. But you knew that.

>>12730

my grandfather would be there

we would sit on the porch for the rest of eternity conversing with one another, playing chekcers, drinking orange crush and having BBQ parties

>>12778

OP here. I concur with this, but I also think/hope that a part of having our transfigured bodies and communion with God would allow me to do all of the other stuff mentioned in the OP, as well. I would much better get along on New Earth if I had first-hand intimate knowledge of all occupants.

Christian meditation, like meditation on the mysteries when praying the rosary, fights against demons and drives them back/out. Eastern meditation invites them.

A Christian is expected to meditate, but specifically on Christ, his passion and his life. You can meditate on God. There are higher orders of contemplative prayer as practiced by Saint Teresa of Avila, but that is beyond the general question (and me right now).

>>6205

I'd be weary of borrowing practices or methods from other traditions but instead find analogous ways in your own.

For example Japa yoga in hinduism would be analogous to the Jesus prayer or rosary in Christianity

There is a universal truth, but when you get stuff outside of the Bible you get a lot of the world's lies thrown in. To be honest, just pay attention to heaven and the finished work on the cross instead of think about, say, nothing like the Buddhist and Hindus do. This ultimately stops you from worrying about the present while at the same time not using methods heathens use to worship devils.

Bump

if it was simulating the board they'd be fist fighting.

>>11574

>Plenty of religious philosophies were and are believed without the promise of paradise.

can anyone expend on that?

Your question is basically:

>If God wasn't omni-benevolent, could you still believe in Him?

Maybe we wouldn't love Him as much as we do, but provided He still provided us with divine revelation, we would still believe in Him if we loved truth.

>>11518

>If paradise was never a thing, would faith in God still be possible?

Yes, the situation the old testament era saints were in, going to a special place in hell as described in 1 peter 3:19-20 and Luke 16:22-26 Note how in Luke it is never stated the description of hell/prison is a parable or proverb until after Jesus' death on the cross due to a longer Bible study I can give if you care, still meant they could have faith because of the prerequisite to faith defined in romans 10:16-17

>But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

>So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

The word of God is a prerequisite to faith, without it there is no faith as defined by the Bible as you won't hear and can't bear fruit. One of those fruits of the Spirit in galatians 5:22 being faith.

>I'm not sure I would be christian if there was no life after death.

Think of it this way, physical death is not true death, it is reversable see Jesus and Lazarus for proof. But spiritual death in revelation 20:10,13-14 is irreversable and no one ever gets out of eternal death.

>>11518

Faith is the act of trust. You drive over a bridge having faith it isn't going to collapse and kill you. You take it for granted.

So no special reward is required to have faith in something.

Faith in God is a connection to the unknown, a trust that there is something greater that cares directly about you. Religion provides a context for the faith, acting as a crutch for the intellect. But ultimately everything goes to the cross to die, in order for the new to be born.

>>11518

Immortality is niether neccessary nor sufficient for meaning, value, purpose, or significance. God is. A relationship with God is valuable even if I am annihilated at death.

This is kind of a pointless question though, as I don't think God would make beings like ourselves without also giving them the invitation for continued existence with Him.

>>12708

an 'S' at the front for Sovereignty

you could stick it at the end to make TULIPS, but since everything else in the acronym proceeds from God's Sovereign Decree, and perhaps more pertinently; since we live in a time where many have forgotten that God is the only One who truly has libertarian free will - and so does whatever He pleases, bringing everything He wants to pass - it kinda needs to go at the start

it's just, stoolip sounds a bit dumb eh ?

>>12711

>it's just, stoolip sounds a bit dumb eh ?

Yeah, I'd definitely stick it at the end as a emphatic descriptor, just to make it flow better. Thanks.

1 peter 3:21

>The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

/thread

>>12738

>/thread

How can you /thread when you haven't even made a point?

>>12738

>Not the putting away of the filth of the flesh

Paedobaptists will ignore

You might just have to do Mark 10:29-30

>And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s,

>But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

>>12739

I can leave her alright, but I don't think I'm doing the right thing abandoning the ones close to me like that. I want to at least give it a good effort to convince her.

>>12684

>if she doesn't start thinking seriously about family and God now, maybe she never will.

If she has a fedora tier aversion to even eating some milk hebrews 5:11-12 then maybe she never had matthew 11:15

>He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Nor did she have faith when you spoke the word of God to her romans 10:17

>So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

>>12742

>good effort to convince her

Well, do mark 16:15

>And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Even if she's not a 1 corinthians 15:44 but a 2 samuel 16:9/Isaiah 56:10-11 you can still preach the word of God. Start with the basics like stated in Hebrews 6:1-2

>THEREFORE leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

>Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Do remember matthew 7:6 if she just absolutely refuses to hear.

>>12559

That's natural evil. The tragedy is a result of the fall, even though no moral agent caused it in particular.

Read Mere Christianity

The person saying sin does not exist is not only wrong, but exceedingly dangerous. Sin, that is doing what God has forbidden through his commandments or his Church, is absolutely real. If you die in a state of mortal sin, you go to hell. If you have committed a mortal sin and have not confessed it, or been absolved through either extreme unction or the exceedingly unlikely chance of begging forgiveness, then you are in a state of mortal sin.

The question of evil is more difficult to answer. Humans are capable of committing evil, that is sin, on their own, but much of it is done at the behest/suggestion of demons. Demons roam about the earth seeking souls which they can devour. They have their own free will, though are kept on a tight leash by God. There are angels and demons all around us, though we can not see them unless God wants us to.

We do not deserve to have evil removed from the earth. Humans had the chance with Adam and Eve. It is due to their original sin that evil exists on earth. Our defense against this is to live holly lives and fight against sin through the grace of God ("Put on the armor of God"). We must believe, adore, trust and love God, which includes not breaking his rules (sin) in order to pass from this valley of tears into Heaven. We can go to confession for our own sins, but we must not do it disingenuously.

>>12540

<evil was not created

Isaiah 45:7

>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

>>11255

>solving evil

Define evil first. If you mean Psalms 10:17

>The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

And Psalms 26:5

>I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.

The "wicked" are "evil doers". So "evil doers" "shall be turned into hell" but the key part is that they "forget" God. You can't forget something you never knew so by definition every person in hell at some point knew God in some fashion. Like for example having faith and being able to hear God in the first place like in romans 10:16-17. Or being able to please God like in Hebrews 11:6. God created Satan, and everything else. The living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the Creator of everything and owns everything by extension see Jeremiah 27:5 or Genesis 1:1 for examples…

>>11255

>How would /christianity/ solve the problem of evil?

To answer OP see Romans 12:19-21

>Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

>Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

>Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Let Jesus take vengence in the book of Revelation, and not us. Also see >>11268 the book of Job

>>11024

No southern baptist would say such a thing, unless he's playing devil's advocate. I'm watching you.

"Rescue those who are being taken away to death; hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter." (Prov. 24:11 ESV)

[After Rehoboam increases the taxes inflicted on the Israelites…] "So Israel has been in rebellion against the house of David to this day.

20 And when all Israel heard that Jeroboam had returned, they sent and called him to the assembly and made him king over all Israel. There was none that followed the house of David but the tribe of Judah only.

21 When Rehoboam came to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah and the tribe of Benjamin, 180,000 chosen warriors, to fight against the house of Israel, to restore the kingdom to Rehoboam the son of Solomon.

22 But the word of God came to Shemaiah the man of God:

23 "Say to Rehoboam the son of Solomon, king of Judah, and to all the house of Judah and Benjamin, and to the rest of the people,

24 'Thus says the LORD, You shall not go up or fight against your relatives the people of Israel. Every man return to his home, for this thing is from me.'" So they listened to the word of the LORD and went home again, according to the word of the LORD." (1 Ki. 12:19-24 ESV)

"The word of the LORD came to me:

2 'Son of man, speak to byour people and say to them, If I bring the sword upon a land, and the people of the land take a man from among them, and make him their dwatchman,

3 and if he sees the sword coming upon the land and ablows the trumpet and warns the people,

4 then if anyone who hears the sound of the trumpet does not take warning, and the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

5 He heard the sound of the trumpet and did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself. But if he had taken warning, he would have saved his life.

6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, so that the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any one of them, athat person is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at the watchman's hand." (Ezek. 33:1-6 ESV)

>>11034

This

>>11034

[continuation of the quotation]

>For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’

He instructed them to buy swords, not to use them (not even for self-defense), but so that they might be mistaken for evil-doers.

[speaking of the same sword]

>Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword."

I own two guns, but this is not a pro-gun argument.

I kinda hate that I am making this comparison Since I like said universe and what I am about to say may be a little dumb-ish, but probably a christian version of warhammer 40k would fit the bill. So instead of a god emperor/omnissiah, its well…. probably like an uber-pope/antichrist? Mainly since what I have heard about that evil plan kinda goes that route. Genetic warping, travel relying on some twisted faith, cyborging/ literal robo-zombification depending on if someone buys into the antichrists plan involving augmentations hard enough. Though I dont know what you are exactly asking so I will leave it at that.

>>12382

>? Or glandular modifications to better resist base urges and temptations? Cyber jacks to participate in virtual reality environments that enable congregations to meet and wor

If they are done without harm to body or mind why not? if they do truly harm, then maybe not.

Alright so it's more complicated. the word used by paul is pysche which suggest mind-related. Tripartite view might be wrong or right, not sure.

Like this.

when was it not 'real'?