/liberty/ - Liberty

>>103296

This is the most elitist thing I've ever read.

>>103311

Well the last thing we'd want to do is offend the subhumans.

>>103320

Did he become a tranny?

>>103255

Coincidence, great comrade! Brazil is remarkably close to the american hemisphere! It is a mystery!

>>103218

That cartoon in the OP is retarded as fuck because Libertarians have been very vocally opposed to the NSA spying on US citizens since the beginning of it. What completely unaware retard made this?

>>103318

Probably some cuckservative that thinks libertarians are just corporate cocksuckers as opposed to government cocksuckers

>>103318

Possibly they were using the flag without meaning to attack libertarians specifically.

>>103330

I guess they were using it to attack the tea party movement?

>>103462

Thank you.

>>103462

>March 1938: Hitler has Nazi party sympathizers and agents stir up shit in Austria which eventually leads to a coup and then annexation by Germany, a very hostile action. Once again, Britain and France let this slide and do nothing (Mussolini was actually the one who was most angry about this and wanted to act against Hitler for his aggression and threatening Italy through this action)

That was in July 1934, when the Nazis attempted a coup d'etat and murdered Dollfuss in cold blood before getting supressed. A number of Nazis fled into Yugoslavia, which had an anti-Austrian foreign policy at the time and allowed them to safely leave for Germany. Hitler would later repay this favor by annihilating the Yugoslav state. Italy still saw Austria as part of its sphere of influence and mobilized divisions in the Brenner Pass, blocking off any possibility of a German military intervention.

Even before this event, Austrian Nazis were already on a relentless campaign of terrorism and subversion, setting up bombs against public officials and sabotaging rail and telephone lines.

By 1938 Italy had given up on Austria, as after its invasion of Abyssinia it was diplomatically distant from France and Britain. Mussolini, another man of honor, simply backstabbed the Austrian state. Austrian Nazis didn't launch an armed uprising. What kicked off the Anschluss was Hitler "convincing" Schuschnigg to relax his supression of Austrian Nazism.

Fucking kill yourself and then go back to reddit you cringelord

>>103232

Geopolitical illiteracy

how should have transformation looked like?

epic

i dont recognize natural rights yet i consider myself an ancap

>>103268

is this thing about more complicated than IRS tax code an hyperbole or truth? The fact that I can't tell does tell a lot about wikipedia's reputation anyway.

>>103432

I can't give you a link, but it's not hyperbole. A few years back someone analyzed the two sets of regulations, and found that Wikipedia's rules were a hair more complex than the tax code.

Because Trump won the 2016 election and a big reason for his victory was the sort of "underground" support he had online as opposed to the traditional mainstream media of the bigger news channels or late night talk shows or celebrities or hollywood ect. So those in power who hated Trump and everything he stands for abused their power and started taking more control over the internet under whatever bullshit pretext. This means banning twitter accounts, taking people off of different services, taking down websites, deleting youtube videos and re editing wikipedia pages and then locking them.

The internet is still the wild west and the one thing no one can really control now, so its a thorn in the side of any group that wants total control and now they are trying to take it

>>103393

Your definition of capitalism is also deficient.

Of course capitalism is unattractive if it's in those terms.

Capitalism is rightly defined as free market economics: individuals have the liberty to do whatever transactions they want with whomever they want free from molestation by the state.

If capitalism is just "hurt the little guy" and communism is "kill the whites" you're really artificially narrowing the available choices to fit a preconceived mold.

>>103436

Capitalism is when the means of production are owned by individuals. This leads to them being used for profit, which leads to what OP is complaining about; the welfare of workers comes second.

Only when people own and use the means of production directly will the welfare of mankind cease to be in last place.

>>103427

If you believe in hbd theory the original tribes of the Franks are not the same genetically as modern Franks; this might explain the change in their culture. The Catholic Church and the manorial farming system combined destroyed the tribal system and created the nuclear family. When you're not a in a tribal system different traits are selected for.

The reproductively successful class were honest, had reciprocal morality, and individual initiative, as opposed to clannish peoples who were tribally loyal but on the whole dishonest and potentially brutal to outsiders. This is what you find in corrupt parts of the world outside of Europe.

>>103439

>Capitalism is when the means of production are owned by individuals

Not completely:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalism.asp

It also requires a market economy, something primarily lacking state interference. Get rid of this interference (taxes, licensing, zoning, subsidies/quotas) then the worker would be able to save enough for capital goods.

>>102360

sound money. if someone was hoarding it to drive up the value it would drive investment into other assets

>>102622

Why would it? Down payments already exist. If you're in a position where you can't afford to put any money down, you probably shouldn't be taking out a loan.

>>102511

That's actually a pretty solid compromise imo. Growth will certainly be hindered, but it provides economic security in the long term.

It would make it much harder to implement Keynesian policies since there would be much less panic and stability.

>>102514

Usury is still effectively selling us into slavery though… Just in a more widespread and tactful way.

>>102360

Of al the beautiful things people could take from Aristotle, they decide to go with usury: https://acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/volume-4-number-4/economics-catholic-world

This nigga >>102362 has figured it out. People take interest for a reason, and if interest is higher than you'd like (there is no objective standard for it being too high), then there is a reason for it. What we have nowadays is interest rates being too low across the board and lawyers and companies trying to compensate by demanding five euro for every letter they have to send you, and another hundred euro for "legal counsel" (they don't seek legal counsel, no collection firm wastes time with that before it collects). They do that precisely because interest rates are set too low for the time-preference people have. We're living in rather insecure times, and people cannot wait ten months before they are paid for their work. The interest-rate on debt is supposed to express that.

>statecuck resorting to doubleposts

>>103332

I was kinda hoping you faggots had some ideas. Another solution is to wait for the state to eventually collapse under its own weight (dollar collapse or something) or for it to piss off society until it reaches a boiling point and revolution is inevitable, at that point we can achieve our goals in ways nobody else was prepared to, however, this requires us to actually have concrete goals and to have a sizeable amount of the population prepared to shill for them when it happens and not be caught off-guard.

>>103334

You missed a rather important part of WMBD, where Hoppe advocates for secession from the state and its coercions. In fact, he specifically states that reforming democracies is basically impossible, due to the sheer weight of malicious bureaucrats standing in the way. Revolution, especially people's revolutions, never bring anything good with them, and only invites some tyrannical commie faggot to take over. But secession is not revolution, secession is a refusal to be coerced, backed with a willingness to defend oneself against it. The greater the number of people within a locale secede, the greater chance it has if succeeding. An example of a successful secession that was *not* some people's revolt is the American Revolution, which was a top-down rejection of coercion.

Adam Kokesh is a cuck in love with open borders, and will do far more harm than good to my freedom of association if he's elected. I don't want him or anyone else associated with the LP anywhere near political power.

>>103334

Adam Kokesh will open the boarder to hundreds of thousands of mutts, which will all vote democrat. His strategy is to basically prolapse america's collective anus then wait for the amigos to chomp down on the poo-ey prolapse hotdog.

>>103337

I'll admit it's been a while since I read wmbd, and I haven't looked into much of Kokesh's policies other than abolishing the federal government.

>>103238

>stealing is only wrong because bureaucrats wrote so in a piece of paper

>>103240

>he is not 'in the right'.

>Being 'strong' does not entitle one to goods

*bashes your head in*

*takes your shit*

Looks like im right, nerd.

>>103274

And because the police enforces it.

>>103276

>OOGA BOOGA, LOOKIT ME TYRONE I'M SO EDGY

>>103276

Notice that in your childish scenario you still had to actually take the goods from me. If you were entitled to them I would need to offer them to you as tribute or something.

That is to say, your statements are completely irrelevant to the thread's subject of the ethics of taxation. No one here is arguing that it is functionally impossible for large organizations to rob citizens.

>>103117

Free market where? I don't see such a thing anywhere. It's like a unicorn.

"Living in a country with taxes is completely voluntary" sure, if by voluntary you mean you have the option to suicide anytime you like.

Just accept the fact that the world is fully owned by oligarchs and the only agency you have in this life is to destroy as much of their system as you can before you escape this hellscape by dying.

>>103290

>nyaa~ faggot from Germany is a nigger

I think he's pretty cool, but he's kinda blackpilled.

>>103271

>English libertarian

What's that Christcuck?

>>103291

But what about freedom of speech and the right to a platform?

>>103307

>right to a platform

That isn't a thing.

>>103307

>right to a platform

To expand on >>103308, right to a platform isn't a thing because a platform requires some kind of capital (internet connection, a broadcasting station, bandwidth, data, etc). To say that you have a right to a platform would mean that you have a right to coerce a provider to give you use of their capital, which is theft.

>>103307

>>English libertarian

>What's that Christcuck?

It's a libertarian imageboard for English readers

I wouldn't mind a pagan free board though

>>103294

Glancing at female imageboards, I noticed that feminists there have built their entire ideology on coping mechanisms, they conveniently ignore or justify everything that hurts their ego, if they are out having a fun time with a guy, and after a week of dating they stop liking him for some reason, they will not say "yeah, I judged him incorrectly, I should be more careful next time", they will justify the fact that they were with this guy as them being "manipulated" by him or something and genuinely forget it ever happened until a thread appears on the specific topic and they share details about it with disclaimers and "I didn't really want to do it" thrown in here and there.

You can understand how this lack of conscientiousness applies to other areas in life, such a person would say they were "forced by capitalism" into getting a useless diploma, or "shamed" into having children with some alcoholic fuckboy, or they were "pressured by society" to make every wrong choice about their lives, yet magically every good choice they make is their own and they take full credit for it (until they become unhappy with that too). A lot of women and also men do this to some extent, it's coping mechanisms after all, but it takes a really emotionally unhinged person to cope so hard.

Healthy people want freedom to be more responsible about their own lives, with responsiblity comes empowerment, which is actually what feminism is supposed to be about, but being the government-subsidized totalitarian ideology that it really is, it depends on mentally ill losers with no control over their own lives to control other people's lives and delegate this control to big daddy government. Whether we're dealing with fascists, liberals, feminists, or any other socialist, these people do want freedom or empowerment or anything they claim to stand for, they want freedom from responsibility and to be pampered like children in some kind of neverending childhood. It is an ideology that literally takes the worst and most evil aspects that humans have to offer and unites them into some kind of many-headed abomination that regrows two heads for every one that you cut off.

Right wing socialists exist you know? Sadly they don't have any institutional power atm.

Also liberal =/= socialist. Most women vote in liberal centrists, not actual communists. And believe me there have been cases of extremist communists like the URA in Japan, though most Revolutionary Socialists aren't a fan of voting just like individualist anarchists. Most prefer direct action.

That being said, a person like Franco or Pinochet has little chance as well.

>>103299

Women exist on imageboards? News to me, unless you're referring to /cow/ which is a gossip board for low hanging fruit, which doesn't surprise me in the least.

Also if women are such good judges of character and read body language better than men, you'd think they would'nt go date criminals and niggers yet here we are.

In short, women hate extremism or anything that rocks the boat too much. Also water is wet.

>>103304

>Women exist on imageboards? News to me, unless you're referring to /cow/ which is a gossip board for low hanging fruit, which doesn't surprise me in the least.

Spotted the newfag. They always lurked and posted on imageboards, they have at least two imageboards exclusively for themselves.

>Also if women are such good judges of character and read body language better than men, you'd think they would'nt go date criminals and niggers yet here we are.

tbh if I were a wahman I would probably date criminals over soyboy cucks too, it's actually really nuanced and there's a lot of reasons why a criminal would probably be a better choice than some nice guy, at least from a safety standpoint (as contradictory as it sounds), but this is not to say that criminals are a good option. As for the niggers, that's just a retarded meme /pol/ happily gobbbled up from Shlomo being the cucks they are. According to statistics, white women are the most loyal to their own race out of women of all other races and about twice as more loyal to their own race than white men.