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Ya'll need Mises.

File: 705187ba1e3bf32⋯.png (417.09 KB,665x912,35:48,ancap meme 7.png)

 No.104540 [Open thread]

Fascism: I want to genocide subhumans fast, I'll replace them with humans who are so great we don't need slaves

Capitalism: I want to enslave subhumans, because i'm >intelligent but lazy

Communism: I want to enslave equals, then genocide them slowly

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 No.104673

>>104637

but somalis have iq of about 70

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 No.104708

File: d611f07d4ea7e97⋯.webm (486.48 KB,180x320,9:16,God AND anime.webm)

>>104575

>let's see how these snowniggers like the taste of their own medicine (referring to Rome)

This can't be serious

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 No.104844

>>104673

Yet don't aren't willing self-hating slaves of the jews. So who is superior?

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 No.104853

File: c3d54f60ccd976c⋯.webm (534.38 KB,1920x1080,16:9,are_you_new.webm)

>>104708

>med/nord shitposting

>serious

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 No.104891

>>104844

neetsoc detected

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File: e1deebeff34fdff⋯.png (341.99 KB,1454x965,1454:965,ancaps pretending to be ri….png)

 No.104541 [Open thread]

How is ancap it's own ideology? It's Fascism in a smaller scale and without care for truth. It's literally a brand of fascism, exacly how nazism is Fascism's retarded cousin Ancap is fascism's slutty and possibly bastard niece.

>its not fascims if I do it only on my own property

>conquering other's propriety is not fascism

>it's not taxes it's tribute, therefore i'm an anarchist

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 No.104663

File: 5c2f31e02abade1⋯.png (11.77 KB,682x72,341:36,quality threads.png)

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 No.104665

File: 66f6740e7181071⋯.webm (436.68 KB,768x576,4:3,Go_Home.webm)

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 No.104845

heh

>>>104818

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 No.104847

>>104541

>How is ancap it's own ideology?

I describe Anarcho-Capitalism as a negative position. Rather than being an ideology, or any body of doctrine, it is the rejection of political and economic interventionism, much like Atheism is the rejection of a belief in deities.

>It's Fascism in a smaller scale and without care for truth.

Oh look: word salad.

>It's literally a brand of fascism

Like, literally? Oh my gawd! Far out!

>exacly how nazism is Fascism's retarded cousin Ancap is fascism's slutty and possibly bastard niece.

Assertions.

>>its not fascims if I do it only on my own property

Strawman.

>>conquering other's propriety is not fascism

Conquering other people's property is the opposite of AnCap.

>>it's not taxes it's tribute, therefore i'm an anarchist

AnCap doesn't call for tribute either. Are you ok? Do you smell toast? Chew an aspirin and lie down.

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 No.104869

File: 0c26f92fc0aa5dc⋯.png (714.52 KB,513x867,171:289,0c26f92fc0aa5dcf1c04d9dc71….png)

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File: c108ca4a9745646⋯.jpg (312.73 KB,1200x1800,2:3,HansHermannHoppe_wn.jpg)

 No.104770 [Open thread]

is the BO still just lurking anonymously or has he abandoned this board once and for all after welcoming leftist faggots?

if you're reading this: the stickies fucking suck

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 No.104799

File: ae877b7c348751a⋯.jpg (72.34 KB,600x339,200:113,lao-tzu_leader_board-owner….jpg)

I just remember that the BO actually DOES moderate:

I made a double-post of this thread (>>104397) a while back, I reported the double-post, as my password had been changed and it was deleted something like a week later.

So yes, the BO does moderate, it's just very lax and unnoticeable.

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 No.104806

>>104797

thanks anon, do you have more hoppe edits?

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 No.104807

>>104770

Nice try, BO.

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 No.104812

>>104798

>>104806

I really just made it in 5 mins on paint.net after noticing that the political compass is definitively wrong. No I don't have any more.

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 No.104814

>>104793

the BO doesn't exist here. /liberty/ is part of the ANARCHY GANG

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File: 3b64e51b77e5584⋯.jpg (257.45 KB,603x328,603:328,1409509537622872561.jpg)

 No.104337 [Open thread]

why are private companies against freedom and in favour of lgbt and feminism and all other bullshit?

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 No.104726

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>>104393

Well if you want to shut them up, give all the guns to the most mentally ill people and have them stick the barrel in the mouths of those who scream the loudest. That includes their cop protectors because only sissies call for backup.

>>104713

Yes unfortunately

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 No.104789

>>104355

why does government support lgbt? are trannies better taxpayers than white healthy responsible hardworking heterosexual cissexual men?

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 No.104796

>>104789

Because if you can get the plebs to demand more state power to give special protections to such a tiny minority, you make them that much more amenable to other variants of communism and redistribution. It's a wedge you use to make way for additional Marxism.

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 No.104800

>>104337

Private companies are in favor of whatever gets them the most brownie points with the government. Being pro-LGBTBBQ or whatever is what the government wants, so to avoid getting investigated for tax fraud or some other bullshit, companies tend to listen to the government and mimic it. Sure there's exceptions to the rule, but those exceptions tend to be the few companies that are relatively honest about their business dealings (I say relatively) or who can take down all their competition with them if the government decides to fuck them up the ass.

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 No.104802

File: a229f1b7b684eb7⋯.jpg (57.96 KB,526x533,526:533,a229f1b7b684eb7ad2dc24d310….jpg)

>>104789

It's really as simple as the forces that be shoved equality in the form of miscegenation down everyone's throats so hard that it had ripple effects. Government discriminated against blacks, Mexicans, Irish, etc. for so long it was embedded into society, government pushed through equality to try to fix their own fuckup, government proceeded to push miscegenation to make people swallow the equality cock they refused to gobble down, and then the whole gay frogs thing happened. If a government doesn't have some issue to attack, people start questioning why the fuck they're paying taxes for those things, so they always come up with a new problem. It's why governments and NGOs come up with entirely new goals from whatever their initial benchmarks they fulfilled were, because if they don't, they get their funding cut. Too many people drank the "we all bleed the same blood" koolaid and basically that was the argument that gays used to try to get people to approve their lifestyle. The whole "we just want to be married like everyone else (and fuck a dozen dudes in our "open relationship lol")." Government couldn't go after the gays after discovering GRID was actually AIDS, and basically the gays hopped on the bandwagon when the "we are equal" crowd started shouting "we are more equal than you" to the people keeping this damn country running, leading to the current mess.

tl;dr- The government doesn't give a rat's ass about LGBT since they aren't reproducing and they tend to just be a tax drain. What they care about is that being anti-gay is effectively the same as saying "we are not equal" and you can't fucking do that. It's the same reason people get super fucking heated whenever you question the out of Africa theory or holocaust, or when you mention to a NEETSoc that Germany never had an international empire like the rest of Europe did, and in fact the Nazi fiscal policy would have led to economic collapse if not for the war delaying that approach.

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File: 39b63d669c98713⋯.mp4 (4.4 MB,466x262,233:131,Are you smarter than a chi….mp4)

 No.93431 [Open thread]

what dont you like in the burgerland?

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 No.104435

bumping

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 No.104477

>>97920

They said it was facebook ads and bots. A lot of other countries do it as well.

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 No.104481

>>97920

Some entities within Russia collectively bought a few thousand dollar's worth of Faceberg ads. In the grand scheme of things, that's effectively nothing.

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 No.104706

>>104477

right now EU pushes its propaganda via facebook ads, so it is good if it is eu propaganda but it is bad when it is russian propaganda apparently, lol

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 No.104743

>>104706

Yep, hypocrisy is the name of the game.

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File: 036cc46a4fd7135⋯.jpg (96.01 KB,649x960,649:960,92bb9deb26e6225ee34cb68153….jpg)

 No.102274 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

What will the age of consent in your private community be?

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 No.104656

Is it just me or are 8 year olds sexy? (No pedo)

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 No.104659

File: 3c7202c0d663e58⋯.jpg (120.06 KB,500x659,500:659,b50e2be90ce970842f07ce8959….jpg)

>>102274

I live in Britbongistan, so I'm already pretty comfortable with an age of consent of around 16. My only real disagreement with the limey government on this, is that it seems to extend to fiction characters, and imo, it would be stupid to physically remove someone, so to speak, for masturbating to a drawing.

>>102435

>n…n…not an argument

Nigga you didn't even make an argument in favor of you're faggoty Islamic theocracy, he has no obligation to do anything but mock you.

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 No.104660

File: b067a922264dd40⋯.jpg (875.23 KB,2317x2813,2317:2813,2277412 - Natty_Comic Step….jpg)

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 No.104675

>>104660

>Anyone not buying gamergirl bathwater is a kebab

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 No.104736

>>104675

>not buying gamergirl bathwater

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File: f52db4e25ad2bcb⋯.jpg (432.4 KB,1344x722,672:361,142971488590-0.jpg)

 No.97287 [Open thread]

>existentialism

opinions?

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 No.97291

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3636622,00.html

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 No.103957

bump

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 No.104028

Going out of style id say. Essentialism of Plato is gonna come back.

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 No.104298

Sartre and Camus were both commies.

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 No.104714

>>104298

yeah i know

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File: 9c57cb47ba43482⋯.jpg (77.68 KB,600x593,600:593,Folder.jpg)

 No.96745 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

>Dark Enlightenment

thoughts?

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 No.97526

>>97492

CHRISTCUCKS ARE SHIT AND ANTITHETICAL TO FREEDOM

There you go.

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 No.97754

>>97444

how fearing death can make someone socialist?

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 No.104432

bump

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 No.104436

>>96927

It's more like a downward spiral than anything else.

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 No.104710

>>96927

yes it can but there is no must

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File: a9dc1b9a489904a⋯.png (386.71 KB,914x960,457:480,a9dc1b9a489904abdf3f821e2c….png)

 No.87005 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

tell me the most redpill thing you know

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 No.104438

I actually think National Anarchism would be the ideal form of society, but to get there there needs to be a transitional period of dictatorship, as only an authoritarian government will have the will and power to deport the nonwhites (Jews and mudslimes first) and exterminate the White traitors, which is necessary if white communities are to have any hope of living in peace.

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 No.104439

File: c509ee3b0350339⋯.jpg (94.72 KB,629x366,629:366,1448723078844.jpg)

>>104434

This. Politicians are saints.

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 No.104440

>>104438

I'd be happy either way as long as the dictator actually fulfills his promise to create ancap, but I'm very skeptical of such promises. For every Lee Kuan Yew there is a hundred socialist cocksuckers, and the chance of a getting an altruistic dictator seems low.

In any case, most of these niggers are illegals, and the rest have been invited by the government without anyone's consent, so for all I care, it's completely ethical and even profitable for private police to get rid of them, as no one tolerates niggers, not even leftists.

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 No.104507

>>98060

Have been for a least a couple hundred years, yeah. The US of A is a white country, pal. That's how it was defined.

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 No.104709

>>104507

whiteness is a race not a nation

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File: 7cb120913de0380⋯.mp4 (3.9 MB,640x360,16:9,you shook me all night wro….mp4)

 No.97408 [Open thread]

is there a regularity that every generation has less and less freedom and liberty?

mp4rel not really related

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 No.97426

>>97413

how will it end?

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 No.97431

>>97426

The same way rome ended, slowly, painfully and with gasps of relief from the people who were forced to live through the end of it

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 No.97749

>>97431

were rome citizens happy about the fall of rome?

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 No.97757

>>97749

Given that quite few defected into the immigrating German tribes, I'd wager yes.

Western Rome was a complete shithole by the 5th century.

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 No.104704

>>97757

will westerners be happy about fall of the weast?

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File: 0e8deaeb02f83e9⋯.png (116.37 KB,1190x592,595:296,8changrowth.png)

 No.104118 [Open thread]

People on the left say capitalism requires endless growth, yet the populations of developed countries is decreasing. The leftists say that this bad for our economy and we need more people. What is "good" growth and is this different than simple population growth?

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 No.104330

>>104324

One tidbit I forgot to mention in that post is the fact that it really is only government that can import 3rd worlders like in the example I mentioned, since I know someone will bring it up. In a free society, a company can still bring on 3rd worlders in certain circumstantial incidents, and a company might rely on 3rd world labor for certain aspects of their production. However in a free society, the company in question largely has to offset many of the costs of bringing on labor from a 3rd world country. They have to address (read: pay to mitigate) the language barrier, the housing barrier, the fact that the local population might just refuse to sell food and basic necessities to the 3rd worlder, etc. In a sense, the company in a free society must pay the associated costs of bringing some foreigner to come work for them, including the social costs of firing locals to hire foreigners. A government has to do none of this, since they can just import the unskilled third worlder and proceed to let them run wild (in some cases quite literally). Any damages caused by the third worlder will be taken out of the taxpayer's pocket at gunpoint, in the current world model. It might behoove a company to simply keep the local population employed or to replace the local population with automation creating a win-win for everyone, since in these ways they don't have to pay both the financial and social costs of hiring the "cheaper" foreigners.

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 No.104331

>>104183

There's actually a funny case with this. Before the creation of the EPA, several factories in the US were actually shut down because a farmer was able to prove that the pollutants killed one of his cows or something similar. With the creation of the EPA, companies only had to show that they were following the guidelines put in place by the federal agency to win a court case instead of having to prove they weren't killing Farmer Joe's pigs.

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 No.104332

File: 1c8c5fe316cf995⋯.jpg (171.29 KB,1336x663,1336:663,1561275762024.jpg)

>>104189

>yes, in the absence of gov't regulation

Taco Bell seems to have accomplished this just fine with the presence of "gov't regulation." In fact, 5,698,630 people every day seem to not care that they're getting a product from Taco Bell that doesn't even meet the guidelines for what can be called meat.

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 No.104336

File: b8f9a9d3ee6b23b⋯.png (21.97 KB,255x255,1:1,b8f9a9d3ee6b23b2cd249bd2c8….png)

>>104118

Because big government and big banking print unlimited money and expect you to work to justify its value by paying back loans.

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 No.104630

>>104170

>Capitalism requires endless growth because stagnation (in size/profit/growth/etc) equals death in that sacred 'free market'.

How are stagnant markets dead? Real estate market in Japan has been stagnant for 30 years but still functions.

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File: 34247d3500a75ca⋯.jpg (34.66 KB,391x565,391:565,1403209596841504137.jpg)

 No.96035 [Open thread]

who is the weirdest ancap?

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 No.104550

>>104538

based whale fucker

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 No.104612

>>104538

How is any of this bad?

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 No.104616

>>104612

>how is wanting to fuck humpbacks weird?

If you need it explained you're unlikely to understand.

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 No.104617

>>104616

Its weird yeah but I kind of respect how brazen he is about it. He's just fucking nuts and owns it. I don't know I guess he has some drug addled swagger that is just interesting to watch.

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 No.104621

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 No.104618 [Open thread]

Have you noticed any /liberty/-tier adages from those whom one would not necessarily consider as supporters of liberty? For example, the vid-related real estate investor:

"Enjoyment comes from the freedom of choice; not choice itself"

"Live and spend like your broke (low-time preference)"

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 No.98742 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

There is a movement to divide Washington state and create a new state called Liberty

>Creation of new state strictly by gun rights activists

>75% of Eastern WA population supports movement, has congressional backing with multiple bills

>low tax obligations-“government doesn’t produce or own wealth—citizens do”

>”The right to manage and protect life and property will be honored at all levels of government.”

>Currently a voting contest for what the official state rifle will be

https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/split-washington-in-two-51st-state-movement-highlights-cultural-divide

https://libertystate.org

https://libertystate.org/about/grievances/

The creation of a new state is constitutional

>Article 4, Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States allows for the division of a state with a simple majority vote of the Legislature of the state and Congress:

>“New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

>https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/articles/article-iv

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 No.104512

>>98742

unfortunately new awakening people(white fascist ethno state) want the same territory

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 No.104514

>>104494

>theres a reason they stopped the catalan votes

because they're honest and mean it when they say Spain is a Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy and not a Democracy?

or do you prefer the british approach of letting the proles have their say and then doing what you were gonna do anyway?

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 No.104517

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>>104514

>proles

Social democrats harp about the EU and Democracy so it's a thorn in their side regardless. I'm not a fan of democracy either (not a commie cuck) and i doubt any state will succeed in seceding from a superpower. My point was that they don't even want the citizens to make it to the poll booth because it will make them look soooooo bad if they're shown to be forcing people to belong to their country like the palestinians or some shit.

And yes i do prefer britain allowing the referendum to take place because it advertises how dissatisfied people are with their rulers and it just breeds more distrust in the establishment, which is a good thing and why i like trump.

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 No.104532

>>104512

The Cascadia guys? The funny thing I learned about Cascadia is that while there's a white nationalist group that wants it, there's also a socialist group that wants Cascadia.

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 No.104605

>>104517

>>proles

Have you ever been to the uk? The literati here genuinely despise working class people.

They'd never call them proles of course, but you can tell it's what they're thinking.

>it's a thorn in their side regardless

No it is not. As someone who was born in Spain and moved to the UK I can tell you that "Democracy" isn't particularly respected or idealized in the continent like it is in the UK or US.

They don't "harp" about it, they decry it as "populism" at every turn.

>it will make them look soooooo bad if they're shown to be forcing people to belong to their country like the palestinians or some shit

You don't get it. The EU is not in favour of democracy. They're technocrats; they want to unite the EU and return to the good old days of the 19th century, when Europe was the centre of the world, only now it'll be them at the centre of Europe. They don't give a shit about Catalonia or the Brexiteers.

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 No.104589 [Open thread]

if nothing in the market is illegal, couldn't a bunch of people make a counterfeiting business? because this business is legal the counterfeiters get better and better, with better machinery and no one is getting arrested, this would end up hyper inflating the economy. pic unrelated

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 No.104594

>>104589

Buying something with counterfeited currency is fraudulent.

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 No.104595

>>104594

All fiat money is counterfeit.

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 No.104601

>>104592

well you can counterfeit gold, there is a huge problem in the gold(and silver but mostly gold) market with counterfeit bars where its gold plated and the rest is a material with a similar density

and bitcoin is just fiat but worse, sure it can not be regulated and there is a market cap but it isnt even worth what fiat is worth, paper

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 No.104602

>>104601

As far as I can tell the problem in the gold market is people who don't know what they're doing not verifying whether the gold they've purchased is legitimate or not.

People think that fiat is worth more than the paper is printed on, and our economy continues to function for the time being (certainly not optimally, but it works). The "value" of money is in its function as a medium of exchange. You don't have to be able to hammer Bitcoin into jewelry or use it in electronics to use it as a currency.

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 No.104603

>>104601

>>104602

bitcoin is just a database of transactions, much like our banking system except the database cant be changed

fake gold bars aren't a huge problem and neither is counterfeiting as less than 1 percent of cash is paper.. if anyone is counterfeiting it's the government itself by printing money and devaluing their currency just under the rate at which the public and markets would panic

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