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Ya'll need Mises.

File: a5d6cfbc059bba8⋯.png (31.51 KB,676x548,169:137,ancap argument.png)

File: 6376946b3541bff⋯.jpg (77.88 KB,695x703,695:703,ancap destroyed.jpg)

 No.97455 [Open thread]

Egalitarians cannot defend their positions at all. The only thing they can do is resort to social shaming and appeals to authority, which reveals a lot about how they themselves came to adopt that belief. Even more educated speakers consistently fall back on dishonest rhetorical tactics designed to prevent actual discourse. It's even more hilarious in the case of anarchists who will be enslaved by the very subhuman they love, perhaps this is what they want.

>dude fascism means opressium lmao

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 No.97464

File: 60526854c68bcb6⋯.png (150.13 KB,250x381,250:381,ClipboardImage.png)

>>97455

>dude egalitarianism sux

>posts low-effort anti-ancap memes

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 No.97485

File: a8300def3601dc5⋯.png (119.53 KB,320x489,320:489,free market power.png)

why can't the left meme?

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 No.103349

bump

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 No.103354

>>97455

is the belief natural rights an egalitarian belief?

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 No.103729

>>97485

They lack free minded individualists.

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File: d7319c6435740a9⋯.png (296.31 KB,1000x500,2:1,cars_comic_strip_by_jrroma….png)

 No.103681 [Open thread]

Can /liberty/ give me the rundown on the car market crash and why it happened?

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 No.105542

File: 1d15abb940e1860⋯.png (139 B,7x3,7:3,dash.png)

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 No.105543

File: 8577a7ad89ea162⋯.png (187.46 KB,920x683,920:683,gadsen.png)

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 No.105544

File: 18be9c659acb3e0⋯.png (192.16 KB,920x1200,23:30,gadsen2.png)

these are assets.

if you find these posts you're quite the treasure hunter

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 No.105545

File: 7522ed2fd9e0383⋯.png (190.54 KB,920x1000,23:25,gadsen3.png)

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File: c082756279ea5be⋯.jpg (40.94 KB,1080x490,108:49,1558114078682.jpg)

 No.103642 [Open thread]

The most relevant question.

Given libertarianism is true (defined: the state needs to be drastically rolled back or abolished), what should the average Western man do what's he's persuaded?

Here's the basic categories of options. There is overlap:

>Sequester yourself from the state, reject involvement in state government system on principle. Don't vote.

>Plan for overthrow in your lifetime.

>Engage in system politics, vote for libertarian policies to be incremented.

>Blackpill: give up.

I believe option 3 is the most practical and mature. Here is why:

Take the most urgent case of abortion. Babies are being murdered and there's no end in sight. In latest development, a (medically) retarded mother in the UK is being forced to have an abortion against her and her own caretaker mother's wishes, because the female judge decided she knows better than them.

Given that the state exists so a consensual system of preventing abortion is unenforceable, it is not a compromise for me as a libertarian to argue for state persecution of abortionists. By supporting anti-abortion legislation I am not agreeing that this is the way it ought to be.

Same for immigration and border control. My striving for no more non-white immigration and a higher border defense budget does not mean I consent to the existence of the state.

At the same time as I'm lobbying for these basic requirements of a society to be in place by the state, I'm advocating for less and less state intrusion everywhere else. I can also prepare my family for a financial collapse, and join a preparatory revolutionary outfit.

Please, help me refine my outlook.

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 No.103644

>>103642

What should the average Western man do *when he's persuaded.

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 No.103649

>>103642

I agree with you in some respects (politically active libertarians should use legislative and judicial means to achieve change in a relatively peaceful manner). On the subject of abortion, given a libertarian view of natural rights, it would be more consistent at least for the life of a baby to be afforded the same protection under the law as any other human being.

However, in terms of immigration/border defense, I think it would be unwise to try to correct the ill effects of government policy by adding more policy on top of it. We should strive to simplify and increase consistency rather than increase complexity, and this means we ought to attack the government policies which fuel the existence of an "immigration crisis" in the first place–the "immigration" part and the "crisis" part: Welfare programs creating malinvestment by giving immigrants false incentives to migrate to Western nations. Governments should not be subsidizing the flow of immigrants into a nation; if they come here, they ought to feed and clothe themselves with their own money and labor. Military intervention forcing many out of their home countries. The "War on Drugs" precluding the production and consumption of drugs by safe, legal means and ultimately leading to the rise of violent cartels. Minimum wage, "bottlenecker" licensure programs intended to minimize competition, and other restrictive regulations that place an artifically high price on local labor, causing many businesses to resort to either automation or illegal labor, or simply outsource.

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 No.103680

I think doing activism in the legislature and judiciary helps but I think it acts like a stop gap. Agorism could complement it to build a long term free society while the legislature work buys breathing room for the agorists.

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 No.89079 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

>pope francesco

thoughts?

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 No.97086

>>97078

>How about you prove the claim wrong

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 No.97089

>>97043

I would stick it in her pooper if she was down, yes.

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 No.97363

>>97086

It's been a week, I'm still waiting.

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 No.97375

>>97363

You'll be waiting forever, faggot, because your claim makes no fucking sense.

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 No.103637

>>97078

pope jp2 was used to priests being accused of pedophilia because he lived in communist poland and communists did not like catholicism and wanted to degrade priests by such accusations

so jp2 probably thought that these accusations were false just like accusations in communist poland

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File: a567b1823df915d⋯.jpg (19.8 KB,480x360,4:3,1504448148611575949.jpg)

 No.96980 [Open thread]

french-national-socialist-homo-e-friend of mine told me that niggers there in france dont vote, and he does not believe that they are being imported for the left to win elections

what about burgerland? what percent of your niggers vote?

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 No.97016

File: 3a441d7cfb7f463⋯.webm (2.27 MB,1920x1080,16:9,coalburner.webm)

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 No.97017

>>96980

Niggers don't understand the concept of "voting", and in the U.S., politicians have to cajole them to go to the polls like toddlers. A good chunk of niggers vote, but I doubt they understand the implications of casting one.

http://archive.is/9gt8t

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 No.97022

>>96980

They have some of the worst turnout of any demographic (I think only spics are lower than they are), but you don't need very high turnout when you absolutely saturate a district or two with them. And as niggers drive down property values and encourage the productive members of society to move away, even if they're just a large plurality to start, the wonders of Section 8 housing means they become a majority before too long.

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 No.103635

>>97022

what is section 8 housing?

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File: 9cde2ab664ca921⋯.png (40.15 KB,628x294,314:147,guardian_work_less.png)

 No.103452 [Open thread]

http://archive.is/6akzC

Guys! If we just work less, there will be less pollution! Darn those greedy capitalists!

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 No.103517

>>103505

The leftists try to take credit for it, but it was mostly a result of the industrial revolution and factory lines. We Are Capitalists made a short (2-4 minute) labor day video on it a few years ago but it seems to have been removed from youtube. Here's the accompanying article if I remember correctly. https://fee.org/articles/thank-capitalism-for-the-weekend/

I have some other sources but I won't even get home for about 12 hours between work and the gym. I'll try to remember to post them tonight. Polite sage because shit thread.

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 No.103551

File: 23207359aca41b1⋯.mp4 (5.16 MB,1280x720,16:9,40_hour_Work_week.mp4)

Here's that video I was talking about. It was on fagbook of all places, but it let me access the post without an account somehow. This was the accompanying text.

https://pastebin.com/czA7SPDn

I could have sworn FEE, Reason, and a number of other websites wrote articles on this topic, but I can't seem to find them. Then again I haven't been heavily invested in discussing this topic in detail since around 2015-2016. I know at least a company in New Zealand experimented with a 32 hour work week where they paid their employees the same but asked them to only come in four days a week instead of five, and the results were that they maintained the exact same level of productivity, but that there was a…

>24% increase in work-home balance reported by employees

>Higher productivity from the employees when they were in the office

>Attendance increased significantly (employees were punctual in showing up on time, didn't leave early, and took fewer breaks when they were in the office)

Sweden did a similar study where they reduced the work day from 8 hours to 6 hours, and found that the employees working 6 hour days were less likely to quit, take sick days, or otherwise provide poor performance. They also found it heavily reduced the number of emails sent or meetings requested since people were trying to maximize what they did during those six hours. Sahlgrenska University Hospital tried something similar, and while the initial costs to the hospital were pretty damn high (about $1.5 million USD per year), they managed to increase their operations by 20%, take on operations they'd normally send elsewhere, reduced sick leave to almost nothing, and decreased the waiting time on surgeries from months down to weeks. Basically the biggest downside they found to the 6 hour work week was that employees who weren't part of the program bitched up a storm and became more likely to quit when their counterparts got to work 2 hours less for the same pay.

Article related from 2017: https://archive.fo/jid9s

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 No.103618

>>103551

Interesting, you mention wages would that decrease somewhat. I know you said that it should be more hours cut then wages but I just wonder how much of the wages would be cut.

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 No.103629

>>103461

so what does the government *actually* do to stop this?

'taking your money' is not an excuse, because without government services you would be paying for your own schools, security, pension, and paying more for everything subsidised

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 No.103633

>>103629

The answer is still "taking my money." The top three federal expenditures, which make up a supermajority of the budget, are two different kinds of welfare and defense spending a third kind of welfare. It's safe to say I receive zero benefit from any of these things. I don't use the vast majority of the other services the state provides, either. Those few I do use frequently involve me waiting in lines for far longer than I like, filling out far more forms than are necessary; that is to say these services are undersupplied, overpriced, and of inferior quality. This isn't even getting into the amount of overhead costs involved in collecting taxes, which are decidedly higher than what a business spends on ensuring receivables. Per the Economic Calculation Problem, among other things, it can be shown that these services will be allocated efficiently by the private market, rather than being under or over supplied. By the same token, private supply is of these goods would be lower in price and higher in quality. All of this translates to an immense amount of productive that simply does not exist thanks to the public sector. Because this productivity has gone down the drain, we must work more hours per week to compensate.

Further, regardless of the quality or efficiency of government services, the coercive nature of taxation means that the very act of taxing necessarily kills productivity, regardless of how the money is used. Taxation is alwats a redistribution of wealth, from the taxpayer to the tax receiver. Even if no welfare system is in place, wealth is still redistributed from the taxpayers to the government and government contractors. This redistribution increases the payoff of being a tax receiver, and decreases the playoff of being a productive tax player. If there is less incentive to be productive, people will stop being productive and become tax receivers. This increases the total cost of the tax receivers and decreases the revenue from tax payers, meaning that the tax rate must be increased to pay for the tax receivers. The tax increase causes a further decreased incentive to be productive, which causes fewer people to be productive, which necessitates a further tax increase…

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 No.103367 [Open thread]

How do you feel about the fact that we live in a cyberpunk dystopia?

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 No.103497

>>103390

Ah so that's where that copypasta came from.

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 No.103564

>>103496

Also the aesthetic is completely shit, nothing looks as cool as it does in cyberpunk.

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 No.103572

>>103496

Did you see the Gameplay demonstration? To me, it looked like it was full of the coll cyberpunk stuff, like a guy whose entire face from the upper jaw up was replaced with cybernetics. Looked breddy spuky.

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 No.103593

>>103390

>transsexual transhumanist

I kek'd

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 No.103616

>>103572

I'm talking about real life being a disappointing version of a cyberpunk dystopia. The game on other hand does look really good.

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File: e24a305bc865c86⋯.jpg (453.9 KB,1800x1350,4:3,Yangzi_River_-_by_Peter_Mo….jpg)

 No.103165 [Open thread]

is muslim banking better than our current system if it has no fractional reserve?

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 No.103195

>>103166

are jewish usurers part of european banking? because they were part of europe from the begining

just see "the merchant of venice"

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 No.103518

File: e7453df88c41cd5⋯.jpg (400.83 KB,2048x2048,1:1,Smileebladee.jpg)

>>103165

i have no clue how the antikike kikes bank but ill go ahead and say two things; 1. i know it has led to quasi ancap ideals, so thats cool in some sense. and 2. our banking is absolute trash anyway so if you can make the case for our banking being worse than another then its almost certainly due to the central banks that have been installed by governments a long time ago. but id need a reason to give a fuck to look and see if they're doing anything close to right

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 No.103522

>>103518

>i know it has led to quasi ancap ideals

Explain.

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 No.103610

>>103195

Ok LaRouche

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 No.103612

Shariah law forbids charging interest, speculation, options, futures, derivatives, etc. Much like concurrent canon law and our modern-day democracies, the financial regulations were really just political promises to rally the peasants to their side against private power.

It seems to me that the only reason it forbids fractional reserves is because all transactions must have "material finality". This boils down to picking your poison. Do you want fraudulent banking, or do you want dysfunctional banking?

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File: 284feecaa1194f6⋯.jpg (140.78 KB,891x597,297:199,1561296321726.jpg)

 No.103487 [Open thread]

I need the ten most important books on right libertarianism. I don't have time for the long ass redundant charts.

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 No.103521

>>103520

To be fair, you don't really need to read a lot of books to be a libertarian. It's a simple enough ideology.

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 No.103524

File: 858fa4cb20b7965⋯.png (1.13 MB,1285x3475,257:695,Why ancaps win arguments.png)

>>103521

Pretty much. Pic related explains all you really need to know about the basics.

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 No.103525

>>103520

I can find all of them besides choice. Who is the author?

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 No.103595

File: edcb02e010daa23⋯.jpg (791.32 KB,2112x2336,66:73,book list.jpg)

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 No.103606

>>103494

are you ego dyke?

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 No.103319 [Open thread]

Welp, it's Wednesday, what inviolable freedom has the U.S. government taken away to make my life more of a nihilistic nightmare this week?

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 No.103549

>>103546

I know that's what he's saying. I'm disagreeing with him and saying the people that would count as lynchpins arent public figures so you wouldnt know who to go after anyway.

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 No.103559

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>>103549

Alright "Wiseman," even if there was such a cabal, I bet you it would be structured in such a way such that even if every one of them died, their successors would pick up and nothing would happen.

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 No.103599

>>103455

>all Americans are /fbi/

Die.

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 No.103604

>>103469

so judging by the clock, 2800s will be when shit really starts to fly. sigh…

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 No.103605

>>103464

>Ted K

no. people are becoming more wary of big tech these days.

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File: bf57d71059395f0⋯.png (62.36 KB,1145x556,1145:556,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.103550 [Open thread]

What happens when the bubble pops? Where do we go? How do we drag humanity into luxury space ancapism?

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 No.103567

Buy crypto.

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 No.103570

File: af5048fb3a1314b⋯.png (1.5 MB,1024x1024,1:1,ClipboardImage.png)

>cucks think the collapse will be fast

>they don't realize we are already in the collapse

>they don't realize it will be slown like that

>they don't realize they won't even notice when its complete

>they don't realize it won't be like soyalt 76, but like 1984 without non-anglo whites

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 No.103574

>>103558

Money might grow on trees but resources are limited.

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 No.103576

>>103574

The government will simply own everything and manage the entire labor force after inflating all purchasing power away from people. And then the real fun can begin.

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 No.103579

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File: 95a43b2b9adbf67⋯.jpg (538.05 KB,2000x1333,2000:1333,n8cj0d.jpg)

 No.103526 [Open thread]

What are the best arguments for and against minarchism vs anarchism?

Meaning, should there be a state that serves an extremely limited function (power to execute murderers, defense of country) or none at all (all social functions predicated on mutual consent)?

I'm having a hard time reconciling ancap with Romans 13's apparent affirmation that some form of government is tasked by God with the responsibility to execute proven criminals, and I must recognize scripture as inerrant.

I know Romans 13 is used as just a blanket proof text for all state action and they're obviously committing eisegesis in those cases (roads, firemen).

Both of these positions are libertarian and have impressive figures on each side.

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 No.103535

File: 3bf85f489155c96⋯.webm (685.62 KB,480x360,4:3,Be Suspicious.webm)

>>103532

Remember how we deal with them.

>>103533

>people will never want it and people's desires create society

Why are you assuming liberty has to be achieved everywhere all at once for it to be achieved at all? We're not Marxists, we don't fantasize about RISING UP all over the world to achieve some utopian pipe dream. Liberty is won through secession. Those who want liberty will secede from the state. Those who do not want it, will not.

>it's not like the State can't create any value

It can't, by definition. Value is created through voluntary transactions, because voluntary transactions are by definition mutually beneficial. The state, being borne out of coercion, can never be a product of voluntary transaction, and as a result can never create value, only destroy it.

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 No.103536

>>103531

Romans 13 isn't the render unto caesar passage

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 No.103539

>>103536

Well, that's my take on the Render unto Caesar passage.

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 No.103541

>>103535

things have value because they're valued. The State can create things that have more value than the resources it seized.

The problem is that the thing is pretty random and also coercitive.

That said, I should have been more precise, because I didn't mean in that case that the State can create value, I meant that things that the State creates can have value.

For example a park that can be enjoyed by everyone has value and can be well-manteined. Of course it's created with seized resources, but it's not such as big a tragedy as we make it out to be.

Since people want the State, ancaps should keep study and spread ancap shit, but also help the State allocate coerced resources in a way that benefits society.

We can be autistic all we want, but the truth is that if the State spends money for a park, it's better than if it spends the money for a million-dollar consultancy on child transgenderism.

Yes, we can't know for sure which of the two is better since they'll be payed with stolen resources, but in the real world we know, and we should stop being such little shit always closed in our world that goes nowhere.

This is very important because the fact that libertarians/ancaps don't take part in politics, mean that people who don't give a shit about freedom will get more and more power, and those who give a shit won't take part in politics because there is no prize or support from ancaps/libertarians.

I mean, even Ron Paul was attacked by certain libertarians/ancaps because he wasn't "pure enough". At that point, if that's how people who understand liberty want to act, fuck them and fuck we all, we deserve to suffer.

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 No.103545

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>>103541

>I meant that things that the State creates can have value.

>For example a park that can be enjoyed by everyone has value and can be well-manteined. Of course it's created with seized resources, but it's not such as big a tragedy as we make it out to be.

You're forgetting the opportunity cost. Obviously the output of the state will have some sort of value to most people. But it will always be higher in price and smaller in quantity than what the unrestricted market would have done with those resources. That is what is meant when people say that the state destroys value. It is not that the state destroys value because it incompetently allocates resources; yes, it does allocate them incompetently, but that is not how it destroys value. Even if you ignore the Misesian Calculation Problem, and assume the state is somehow capable of allocating resources just as effectively as the market, it still destroys value, because value is created by voluntary transactions. In a voluntary transaction both parties are better off after the transaction than they were before. Even if its output was of the utmost quality, it must still be said that the state destroys value because it destroys voluntary transactions, not just through coercion, but by the opportunity cost of the voluntary transactions that would have taken place had the state not intervened.

You are correct in that the state's outputs are not completely worthless, and some forms of output are obviously less worthless than others, particularly if they move in the direction of undoing previous coercion. But I believe you're underestimating just how damaging state intervention truly is.

>but in the real world we know, and we should stop being such little shit always closed in our world that goes nowhere.

Does anyone actually do this? The very fact that we're discussing our frustrations on a Canadian cave painting website instead of quietly fuming is already in itself a political interaction. Places like the Mises Institute do a fair bit to get more people interested in liberty, and issue-oriented lobby groups like the GOA or thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.103480 [Open thread]

How can people be such slaves to work 9 hours per day for 40 years? Just count the amount of hours you are losing for slavery.

I don't even think of wagecucks as of humans, you are robots, slaves, ants, without brain or consciousness.

Not a single free men would allow something like this, he would prefer to make a revolution and kill those who enslave him, or even die during revolution, than to be such slave like wagecucks are.

There is so much wealth and factories in the world, that we all could work two days per week and still have houses, food, fun. But for now that wealth is in hands of your owners, lords. We have feudalism.

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 No.103498

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 No.103507

How is working slavery? Just leave if you don't like it.

<inb4 "IF I DONT WORK I DIE".

Yeah no shit, if animals don't 'wagecuck' for their food, they die too. This is reality.

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 No.103509

>>103507

BORN 2 SHIT

FORCED 2 WIPE

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 No.103512

>>103489

Listen to this advice please.

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 No.103534

>>103480

that's because the market is less free than has ever be in the last 150 years.

Not only we're full of regulation and taxes, but the State now is efficient enough in applying them while in the past you could easily escape most of the State's bullshit and taxes, as long as you didn't con everybody, the State would let you whatever you wanted.

I agree we're in neofeudalism. We've a class of billionaries, often in cahoot with the State, that lives above the rules or writes them. Very bad.

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 No.103169 [Open thread]

Considering the number of replies to >>100308 , even when it's buried deep in another thread, I feel like it deserves to be its own post. Are libertarians just getting burnt out from arguing with everyone since the dawn of the internet? How many of you would describe yourselves as having turned into lurkers? What would you suggest to do?

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 No.103311

>>103296

This is the most elitist thing I've ever read.

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 No.103312

>>103311

Well the last thing we'd want to do is offend the subhumans.

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 No.103314

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>>103296

Completely agree and let me kickstart the "goals" part.

The most realistic thing we can do to achieve any kind of liberterian life is "Free Private Cities" first project that is about to be completed some time soon.

If you wonder what it is here:

https://freeprivatecities.com/

A short introduction from a previous PFS video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE_4gTVPpmU

I closely followed this because I wanted to be ready to hop to this new free city when it is opened up.

So my simple premise is this:

Our (any liberterean/hoppean etc) only realistic and close enough goal would be to apply and relocate to this city and after that working in cohesion to spread this model around the world a bit more. So that there would be enough "habitats" for like-minded people to relocate.

But first seeing this project succeed. Though I am not sure at this stage there is any additional support that can be given to person/people doing this except shilling for it through media platforms, but you can always ask them if there is anything you can contribute just ask them on their facebook via message:

https://www.facebook.com/FreePrivateCities/?eid=ARAXYwRM4vJl6r2mL3hxe7J_ws2uZoELGwijD9wqd8bZSrXJawvaJq5NO4bv2z5l-byATHtxMCeiCFt0

So here is my two cents. Go ahead contribute if you wish.

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 No.103320

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>>103310

>2019

>not knowing ADF

Infamous leftist lolcow who got a visit by the Secret Service for drawing a picture of Sasuke from Naruto headshotting John McCain.

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 No.103500

>>103320

Did he become a tranny?

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 No.103218 [Open thread]

Hey all,

I have become disillusioned, to the point of either expatriating or pushing for accelerationism (if it was not for the NWO). To start off, the Amash vs RINO confrontations are just retarded. Republicans when they lost would at least pay lip service to being conservatives. Then Trump is being a gun control piece of shit, on top of his other shit, thus giving up on Trump being anything other than a Peronist (hell George Bush was more of a conservative at this point). Then people have the gall to say it is libertarians fault because MU Koch Brothers! Even with their money they have not been that successful. But people go on that libertarians are the problem, although most the "libertarians" are conservatives that have a fetish for big government. Further I get tired of people trying to change this country, this land was made for liberty, and I am tired of everyone trying to homogenize the US to be like everywhere else. Fuck them.

And if I sound like I am just bitching , I am not. I have run for office, held appointed positions, and tried to get others elected, just to get shit on by anti-human and anti-evolutionary apes. I am quite tired of it. Further, people complain that housing and other essentials are going up in price, but see no fucking correlation with QE or that prior to 1970 prices were relatively stable, but them everything went to shit after that, HMMMMM???? (Granted the catch up of the Axis powers did not help, but neither did buying goods without producing anything). Yet you suggest, maybe, just maybe conservatives could have prevented this by pushing harder for the gold standard, but that is like number 99 on their list of things to do. Fucktards.

I am sorry if I sound disgruntled, but on top of my things that I considered "my hobbies" being destroyed by people I hate, but on top of that I expected Republicans to deliver on one thing they were ok on, and they fucked that up. At this point if it all goes to shit both sides deserve it. Boomers bitch about this communist generation, but if they would have insisted on a gold standard, maybe there would not be the income inequality that there is, but they stick their head up their ass like there is no such thing.

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 No.103264

>>103255

Coincidence, great comrade! Brazil is remarkably close to the american hemisphere! It is a mystery!

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 No.103318

>>103218

That cartoon in the OP is retarded as fuck because Libertarians have been very vocally opposed to the NSA spying on US citizens since the beginning of it. What completely unaware retard made this?

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 No.103325

>>103318

Probably some cuckservative that thinks libertarians are just corporate cocksuckers as opposed to government cocksuckers

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 No.103330

>>103318

Possibly they were using the flag without meaning to attack libertarians specifically.

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 No.103499

>>103330

I guess they were using it to attack the tea party movement?

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