/liberty/ - Liberty

I'm not sure getting Paul-kun (jr) into office would've changed anything. The President doesn't actually hold that much power.

>pic related would be the US president now

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The donor class preferred Jeb, Rubio and Cruz in pretty much that order. Cankles had a sumpremely well funded and incompetent team but the question remains whether Paul could've flipped the states he needed to flip for a win.

> doesn't actually hold that much power

He hold plenty but needs loyal personnel to act on it.

Which Trump fucked up badly by letting Rinsed Penis do most of the staffing causing the admin to be filled with NeverTrump cuckservatives and Obama holdovers.

>>102572

He isn't attractive to the boomercon bulk of the party, so it's doubtful he could've won the primaries.

That said, he has the most cross-party appeal and firm values so he'd do well in a presidential race.

Missed opportunity imo.

>>102572

I highly doubt that.

Wrong

>>102558

Where do you live?

>>102555

Because you live in a first world country where they receive gibs. Look at pictures of countries where libertarianism is implicitly tied to women's rights, and the number of libertarian women skyrockets.

>>102555

I know it isn't much but there's Mackenzie who's an ancap cosplayer. She's surprisingly based though she is engaged. https://twitter.com/_Kenziepuff

>>102547

Too old, sage

>>102359

based and redpilled

>>102422

obviously

>disgraced

You mean based?

>>102490

He is but that's not the general consensus of normies. I do think he is based but I tend to keep that in the low

I hate the Frankfurt school except where they actually critique consumerism, but I digress. It's fun to use their theories against them, especially on sociological matters. Like I think the reason why pedophiles are most gay is because they got their ass beat growing up for being gay so they find someone who can't fight back. For the small percentage that are straight, it's because of essential gender roles of women taking it and men giving it. Human beings, human doings and all that jazz, younger women are actually more fertile and it used to be practiced until the advent of femikikery in the public eye. Also you can't make kids with poopdick. William Reich used against himself

Tl; dr?

If I were to grab an SK and foolhardly tried to save Assange, where am I w.r.t. NAP?

>>102445

why do you still believe in that? everyone is in this world for themselves. most capitalists would say "you're not trying hard enough to be successful"

>>102421

no he was an anarchist

>>102476

If we all descend into Barbarism the world will be rendered uninhabitable. The idea is create a society which values liberty so that it can turn its guns outwards and prevent that from happening.

>>102542

>and prevent that from happening.

Prevent a descent into barbarism. I see now that my post could read "prevent valuing liberty from happening".

>>102312

is wanting modest, honest, virtuous wife a pathological attitude toward sex?

>>102357

I'd go broader and say that it's for bottom-caste males in general. Being a nerd is still bad but nerd interests are cool so they can't use that and just saying virgin was starting to get dated so now the new hotness is 'incel' for insulting males at the bottom of the social hierarchy.

>>102379

>>102425

Stop playing into the Communists hands. It is a term forged in the fires of faggotry. It is a meaningless term meant simply to fling at your enemies. Do not ascribe it meaning, do not use it, simply mock its use with derision.

>>102423

>>102425

>>102439

>>102379

>>102357

>5 answers

>each completely different

I think we can safely say the word might as well be meaningless

>>102350

>incels

The very fact that you use this term tells me you are from reddit. Go back. Robots are not incels.

>>102373

I fully support and avow this.

The beauty of free market eugenics at play.

Further reading:

>>102426

>>102377

Nice cope socialist. What OP is pointing out is a free market economy at its peak performance and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

You seem like you need an helicopter ride my dude.

>>102409

>Mending a broken bone, getting medicine, having X-rays etc. Is the same as splinting it and having a wellness checkup

You're delusional, dude.

>>102412

Tell that to the hundreds of third worlders who die each year drilling it. Fossil fuels are from fucking plant matter.

>>102429

But what if helicopters don't exist because technology was destroyed in a nuclear holocaust

>>102355

>revolutionized linguistics

That is an impressive feat for someone known for their incoherent mumbling.

>>102374

It is true, though

He took a sledgehammer to social constructionism in linguistics and invented the hierarchy of formal grammars, which is a theory of language that comprehensively ties it to formal logic and set theory.

He basically proved language shares a fundamental logical structure with mathematics, as far as I can tell. Really interesting and deep stuff, but not related to politics in the slightest.

>>101158

>Make no mistake, Chomsky, especially in the realm of economics and his apologist nature for socialism, communism and the like, is a fucking moron. The problem here is that the author isn't too bright either.

Socialism is, by definition, when the goverment does stuff, the more stuff the goverment does the socialister it is.

Communism is when the goverment does a lot of stuff.

>>102427

[…] Thus, communism is when there is a lot of socialism.

>>102271

they arent

>>102284

>A first principle is an axiom that cannot be deduced from any other within that system.

>>102287

> Pewnego rodzaju odpowiednikiem "pierwszych zasad" jest w logice współczesnej pojęcie "aksjomatu" – zasady uznane w logice tradycyjnej za "pierwsze" nie mogą jednak stanowić aksjomatyki rachunku zdań ani żadnego systemu dedukcyjnego. Są one bowiem twierdzeniami, które wyprowadza się z aksjomatów rachunku zdań za pomocą wielu kroków dowodowych.

>>102308

Looks like whoever wrote the article is confusing a priori statements with a posteriori statements.

>>102186

Prove it.

Completely.

Without resorting to circular reasoning.

>>100950

Mankind developed the word "choice" to describe a process that occurs within his mind. Regardless of the nature of this phenomenon, it does occur. Being a real phenomenon which takes place within a natural universe, its operation is deterministic in nature, regardless of whether the mechanism can ever be understood. Free will and determinism are not mutually exclusive, and to believe that they are is to fail to understand at least one of them.

>>100950

Look a bit more carefully, because the first and third point you make contradict each other.

I'm too brainlet to contribute but I wish the more intelligent among us would spend more time discussing shit like this and less time memeing about helicopters.

>>102380

Fuck it. We're at the level where we might as well be brainlets discussing it, because I agree. I'd rather have this than helicopter and Shockbutt memes.

>>100950

Isn't the point of OP not to defend free will or determinism, but to point out that predictability v. unpredictability is really the key argument when it comes to the underlying foundations of some libertarian theories?

>>92213

Read this short (15 pages) text:

https://ia801408.us.archive.org/27/items/ThePoliticallyIncorrectCaseForLegalizationOfAllDrugs/The%20Politically%20Incorrect%20Case%20for%20Legalization%20of.pdf

>>101242

meh

im already in favour of legalisation of all drugs

>>101242

This is the most retarded, edgy and try-hard thing I've ever read in my entire life. The cringe. Holy fuck, the cringe.

>>102356

How cringe is it? What are examples of some cringy material?

Not directly addreesing the topic, but more as an addendum to the other posts: When a skeptic is considering whether a private alternative would function comparably to a current government system, ask the question: Is the government equivalent really that great?

When you say a system ought to provide "recourse" that carries the implication that such a mechanism be effective. Does our judicial system consistently provide fair and commensurate punishment for crimes (or non-crimes)? Are different groups of people and people guilty of different offenses really treated equally under the law? Do the enforced laws coincide well with local customs and values of a community?

>>102323

private courts

Most likely in ancapistan the child will have a gun so good luck doing that

What Subjective non-altruism?

>>102323

Do you think people generally dislike [problem you've identified]?

Do you think people would prefer that [problem you've identified] were solved?

If so, then there's a profit opportunity in solving [problem you've identified].

is ben shapiro neocon?

>>102255

Ben Shapiro is *the* neocon, anon.

>>102224

No it's mostly women are the problem

>>102283

>truth is bait

Hey liberal, shouldn't your newfag ass be on /pol/?

>>102230

If the value that the company takes truly is undeserved why don't employees simply quite and keep the value themselves or offer said value without being employed by a company? It is because the structure and benefits said companies provide outweigh the surplus value to the point of necessity. Not to mention if you are employed you probably agreed to the terms therefore really its your fault if you think said arrangement is unsatisfactory and if there is no other person willing to hire then perhaps you might not make as much value as you think you do.

>>102334

No, it's clearly because the system forces you to work for Amazon, at gunpoint. If I don't do anything I'll starve to death. That's not freedom.

>perhaps you might not make as much value as you think you do.

How dare you suggest that some workers don't deserve the wages they are paid. You're probably an evil capitalist who hates fair working conditions for Africans and likes child labor. I stand with workers. #UnionsAreWorkingPeopleWhoStandTogether #CaliforniaLaborFederation

>>102272

fortunately im slav and slav arent white :^)

>>102230

The worker, on his own, can make one "value".

The capitalist's capital enables the worker to make 8 "value" instead.

The capitalist uses 5 of those "value" to cover the cost of maintaining the capital and paying off loans for having it built in the first place.

The capitalist keeps 1 "value" for himself.

Repeat across one million workers, and those workers collectively now have 1 million more "value" than they otherwise would have had, and so does he.

>What even am I at this point?

A faggot.

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>no real feedback

Thx /liberty/, it's no wonder this board is thriving right now

>>102339

Cf >>100308 and its responses.

>>102328

You're a confused voluntaryist.

>I used to believe in a more ancap-style right-libertarian order, but now I'm starting to see the benefits of having institutions that constitute more than one individual collectively owned.

Collective property rights are perfectly acceptable in libertarian thought, and imo preferable in some instances; aquifers, urban infrastructure and militias are all good examples.

>The free-market is cool so long as the autonomy of individuals (assuming they haven't physically assaulted or harmed anyone) is respected and not undermined.

The best way to ensure that is what happens is to distribute law enforcement. Read the machinery of freedom, it's online and very straightforward (kinda like an anti-Kapital).

>the newly-born posthuman can be free to do gay space shit at its will.

Read Accelerando, by Charles Stross

>I do not believe that a state relaxing immigration restrictions would be legitimate if that very same state legally restricts your ability to defend yourself or your ability to freely associate

That makes you not stupid.

>>102339

You wrote a rambling, incoherent blogpost.

Don't blame people for not taking the time to work through it.