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Ya'll need Mises.

File: 253d3c3ce8e7d53⋯.jpg (110.93 KB,767x960,767:960,tooFuckingAccurate.jpg)

 No.102001 [Open thread]

Hey socialists,

Does it ever bother you how you're allies for multibillion dollar corporations? Do you find that strange at all? Does that cause no cognitive dissonance?

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 No.102059

>>102054

Hello comrade. I am Russian agent sent to infiltrate US presidential election. Unfortunately I do not know how to speak, read, or write Russian. Do you have any good resources for learning Russian?

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 No.102061

File: 07589117001f24e⋯.webm (934.31 KB,480x360,4:3,harmless_retard.webm)

>>102051

>all it changes is campaigning

<HAHA, LOOK AT THIS STUDY THAT SHOWS THEY WON MORE ELECTIONS, I SURE PROVED YOU WRONG RIGHT-WINGER

…Are you illiterate?

>Russian bots

Well, that answers that question.

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 No.102062

>>102051

>>102054

I AM A RIGHT-WINGER AND I WATCH FOX NEWS OR I AM A RUSSIAN BOT. UR STUPID AND I BET U BELEEV THAT TAX CUTS R BAD. THAT R DUM. DREGULATION NO MAKE BAD TIMES. BAD TEIM BECUZ OBAMA. I SUPPORT THE WAR IN SYRIA.

^ what this guy thinks is going through everyone's head on this board.

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 No.102064

>>102051

I wonder how they factor out all other variables that contributed to Republican gains. You would think unions (and Democrats) would have benefited the most from Citizens United.

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 No.102091

File: 6e615a1978b633d⋯.jpg (64.44 KB,750x748,375:374,big heh.jpg)

>>102066

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 No.101959 [Open thread]

does class cause more division than nationality or race?

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 No.102007

File: 39b34e79d9cf5a0⋯.png (456 KB,2048x2000,128:125,11807619_10153426923151291….png)

No, not even close.

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 No.102031

>>101993

Not really it's just insurrectionary anarchism with stirner's union of egoists concept. Basically it thinks insurrection isn't violent enough

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 No.102033

Though id say it's insurrectionary anarchism with a side of accelerationism

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 No.102034

>>101986

>UK inbreeding plus UK fetal alcohol syndrome

Although according to them, they used to run the world

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 No.102035

>does class cause more division than nationality or race?

Nationality or race are classes, as much as economic class.

It can help to remember that "the left" is basically radical christianity for aetheists. As such, merchants, moneylenders, and priests of organized religion get it (and the priests at catalonia had a book to warn them - no sympathy). At the same time, sex offenders and other outcasts - whores, adulterers, racemixing samaritans - are teh awesome, and failing to respect the equality, autonomy, and dignity of children and toddlers is disrespecting jebbus, or whatever this translates to in aetheism.

ALL classification is a form of classification. Also, yes.

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 No.101949 [Open thread]

Without identifying the Enemy;

One cannot fight said Enemy.

Who soever opposes The Constitution is our Enemy.

Although, this seems paradoxical because our Constitution allows

for anyone to ideologically oppose The Constitution.

To Oppose = Actively resist or refuse to comply with.

We must allow our Enemies to exist or else we become identical to what we oppose.

This does not mean that we should give up or compromise in any way.

It simply means that we are better than them.

They do not understand this. They do not care.

The one saving grace for liberty is that liberty minded people are rational;

while people who oppose liberty are irrational.

Irrational people are going to make irrational decisions.

Their flaws will be their undoing,

and it is not our responsibility to protect them from themselves.

All we need to do is lay our webs and the flies will entangle themselves.

If hatred and resentment guide your behavior,

it will inevitably be your undoing in the end.

We must remain optimistic and compassionate to everything,

but DO NOT give the enemy any mercy.

They will take advantage of any weakness.

This statement seems to contradict itself,

but optimism and compassion is not weakness;

it required great strength.

If too many Americans, at any point in history,

decide to discontinue their opposition of tyranny; we will lose.

There is no victory. Freedom requires eternal vigilance.

Freedom is not fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.101963

>>101949

>constitution

read spooner

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 No.101979

winnie the pooh

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 No.101984

this meme again

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 No.102016

Meandering bullshit

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 No.102017

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 No.101797 [Open thread]

WE'VE BEEN NOMINATED FOR 8CHANMANIA'S SITE WIDE EVENT!

What is it?

/v/ Nominates 32 fighters to fight for the Champion's Belt and a chance to fight in the 33rd Mania and win the season championship

This week we're having a site wide event and we want YOU to nominate a fighter, so please pick who you think represents the board the most, and then come join us at https://cytu.be/r/8chanmania on Sunday May 12th at 2pm EST to watch your fighters win!

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 No.101964

deadline is 5/5 but we're tied, someone break it

the next order of business is who will make the edit, I've done a number of them so if no one's interested they'll get made none-the-less, but if any more active /liberty/ posters want to try their hand, I recommend it

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 No.101974

>>101964

Being tied and unable to break any sort of gridlock in a meaningful and pragmatic way would be the most /liberty/ thing I've ever heard of.

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 No.102006

I'm tiebreaking in favor of Pinochet, so he's our guy unless someone really sneaks it in.

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 No.102009

>>102006

Too bad, Big Ben is my vote.

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 No.102175

Hoppe made it to the semifinal only to get defeated by literally Nothing.

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 No.101879 [Open thread]

What is James Bond's political stance?

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 No.101947

>>101939

>I'm going to call things I don't like "Reddit."

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 No.101956

>>101941

I just treat it the way I treat the godzilla movies. They each have their own continuity. For godzilla you have the Showa, Heisei and Millenium eras with their own continuity. Though millenium era gets complicated due to the movies not being in continuity with one another except for Godzilla against Mechagodzilla and Godzilla Tokyo SOS. Anyway, for Bond you can have the Sean Connery stuff as one continuity, the Roger Moore films as their own, The Pierce Brosnan as it's own continuity and the new ones as it's own continuity.

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 No.101967

>>101939

>>How the fuck else would you interpret the Bond series?

He is a Time Lord.

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 No.101988

>>101939

It is not out of Reddit. That idea has been around for a long time.

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 No.101990

File: 54a24d94f201cbe⋯.jpg (55.56 KB,435x481,435:481,bond.jpg)

It'll be interesting to see in the new film. Apparently they've given Daniel Craig carte blanche to just do whatever he wants with the script, so it's possible his biases will rub off and Bond will be more "progressive" in the next film.

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 No.101932 [Open thread]

If your fingerprints aren't already in the system, is it worth keeping them out of the system in 2019 (USA)?

A hiring company wants me to submit finger prints in addition to standard background check info. I'm inclined to tell them to go fuck their hat, and move on to other opportunities.

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 No.101950

Finger prints can be removed…

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 No.101951

>>101946

The Police convince most grade schools to bring the students on a field trip to the Police stations without a field trip permission slip.

The Police act like it is a game, and convince the Children to submit their prints into the system.

No parental consent.

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 No.101954

>>101946

>private sector, bank related

Anything to do with the banks will come under heavy scrutiny by the Feds. The banking sector is ao heavily regulated, calling it "private" is pretty deceptive imo.

It's up to you if you want to stick with it. If you have committed no crimes and plan on committing no crimes in the future you have no reason to be afraid of giving them your prints.

Additionally, you can always burn off your finger prints before you actually give them your finger prints. Wether it is a smart idea or not is not a call for me to make.

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 No.101955

>>101954

>you have no reason to be afraid

Trust big brother, sounds legit!

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 No.101971

>>101932

>fingerprints

>reliable

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 No.93061 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

How old are ancaps? I want to know the their exact age, of all 20 of them.

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 No.101843

21, but I was about 19 or 20 when I went through my zealous ancap phase. I've kinda mellowed out a bit, got away from politics for a bit, but never really stopped believing in the ancap ideal.

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 No.101885

>>101830

Wow that's a first.

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 No.101908

>>93253

>What do you mean, "how". It amuses me.

It means "how the hell did you life turn out in such a way that you are still browsing anime image boards".

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 No.101911

Although I'm not ancap, I'm solidly in the purple area on the political compass, and am generally supportive of ancaps. Also, 27

>>100599

>A shitload of people would become libertarians/ancap if they were to listen to libertarian stuff every day, it's pretty convincing.

You could say that about a lot of ideologies, even less convincing ones. It's why you see a lot more ideologues running around: The Internet allows people of similar views to group up together than share information positively representing their ideology amongst each other. Echochambers end up forming, and in many cases dissent ends up being pushed out entirely, whether due to negative pressure or outright banning it.

>>101834

I feel like that may be partially a Discord demographic thing as well.

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 No.101948

>this whole thread

old enough to care about politics but young enough to still have a worldview untempered by decades of disappointment and spite towards illusory "haves" who apparently want to give you more rights

what did you expect to get, 60-somethings?

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 No.98962 [Open thread]

What's the most effective way to kill statism, bros?

Governments have been rapidly evolving, they have almost perfected the art of farming entire human societies and keeping the population docile and desensitized, while also putting up a show of simulated international politics that keeps the politically active part of the population distracted. It feels like if we don't do anything within the next 50-100 years, we will lose whatever power and freedom we have and then spend whatever time our mutted species has on this gay earth in a pseudo-socialist dark age run by an evil artificial intelligence created in the Judeo-Asian state's own image before completely destroying the environment and the planet and everything on it.

We don't even have a fucking plan, our movement whole movement consists of wise guys and redditors mentally jerking each-other off on niche forums and niche events, showing off how much smarter they are than everyone else, while not actually doing anything and only hoping that things will eventually get better. I hate it, but I hate us even more for being so powerless.

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 No.101771

>>101681

i think it must be coupled with cryptoanarchism

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 No.101890

I feel like agorism is the best. But I wonder if a two pronged approach of agorism and some people running for local office would help. The ones running for local office could help encourage secessionism. But the one catch is for the people running for office cannot be fuckups and have to stick to their guns. This would be difficult given the nature of current day politics and some spergs might be attracted to this position of power. I still think agorism would be best as a long term solution but I think the local election could provide some reprieve for a little bit.

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 No.101931

>What's the most effective way to kill statism?

All of them simultaneously. We won't make it by doing just one thing

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 No.101933

>>101681

Agorist projects (silk road, etc) were all shut down by the FBI though. Plus black markets attract all kinds of criminal scum, which require laws to deal with.

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 No.101943

>>101933

All agorist projects? What about the other silk road clones?

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 No.99307 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

any incels in here? will inceldom disappear in ancap? if yes then why are not all incels ancaps? maybe in ancap only high time preference people would be incels while virtuous, hard working, rich men would be nonvirgins?

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 No.101540

RASPEC WAMEN

Fucking moron.

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 No.101544

>>101539

>>101540

oh wow, so now you're islamist too

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 No.101557

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>>101544

>oh wow

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 No.101584

>>99307

There will be plenty of prostitutes in ancapistan and they would probably be offering pretty cool services as it'll become an unregulated if you don't like used women then you can always ask the establishment for newcomers for a premium. Its already a thing IRL IIRC.

If you want legitimate companionship then I dont think any political system can help with that. Maybe like rental girlfriends?

I heard those guys over at neetsocs have subsidized prostitution though. Ancap prostitutes would probs be cooler though cause free market.

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 No.101936

>>101584

> you can always ask the establishment for newcomers for a premium

you mean immigrants?

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 No.101579 [Open thread]

Doomers, Gloomers, Clowners, ideologues, and all. Suck it up or kill yourself. Fuck your memes.

You are living on the precipice of a new century and all I can hear all year all day is a bunch of slack jawed incompetents trying to tool the system into smashing good things we have going. Multiple narratives of the cyber-world into a psychological proxy war of established superpowers to destabilize the next. CIA / FSB / and whatever automated Chinese hackers scripts are running through the net. Democratic free speech doesn't allow us to think anymore. It has made us small. If you are above 25 to 30 years old, you are an adult that should have grown out of collegiate nihilism.

Microsoft: from zero to a Trillion dollar company that defined the personal computer market.

Amazon: from a tech boom ebay clone that sold obscure warehoused books, to the central source of international retail.

Google: from a garage search query platform to the one stop shop for global information.

Cucks complaining about monopolies of industries that never existed whose market share is reliant on bringing billions in new revenue that didn't exist decades ago. No true monopoly exists without government regulation. No natural monopoly exists unjustly without providing the best product on the market at the most efficient price. Nobody cares about Yahoo, MySpace, AOL.

Freedom and technology has eliminated jobs you really didn't want to do for opportunities that you never thought existed as a child. You are never getting it back. We have a bright exciting century ahead, and all we keep hearing about is the complaints of guys who've either fucked themselves or are too far unwanted to be worthwhile in the market. If the state is to exist as a strong central authority, it must be used to ruthlessly protect free markets responsible for exponential growth. Electoral infighting, Liberal Democracy, and every identitarian manifestation of the left must be silenced. Chinese Authoritarianism has done the greatest thing with political censorship, outlawing electoral parties, and the self-regulation of it's industry by technocratic leadership that has turned irrelevant fishinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.101617

Sounds like work anon. I'm struggling just to not kill myself kek. Thanks for your concern though <3

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 No.101635

Shit meme. Why'd you bother writing so much?

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 No.101888

>>101580

>Ecological collapse

Is this the 12 years meme or something worse?

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 No.101913

>>101888

just wait 8 more years, only the strongest will survive

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 No.101918

You're the worst kind of stupid: The kind that thinks itself smart and profound.

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 No.101741 [Open thread]

Freedom of Spreech is evil and wrong. Change my mind.

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 No.101755

>>101752

>MUH STATE

No one mentioned your boogeymen, cuckchanner.

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 No.101759

>>101755

You're the one who's lost. A rothbardian stateless society is by definition libertarian.

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 No.101887

In speaking of free speech given how social media sites deplatform people for anything these days, Do you think the same would occur in ancapistan and how could it be countered?

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 No.101893

>>101887

It might occur to some localized degree, but I doubt we'd see the systematic banning and deplatforming of certain groups that we see today. For starters, the only benefit of mass deplatforming is the pursuit of political power. There's no monetary or financial benefit to doing so, it's just very expensive virtue-signaling. If there's no government to influence, there's no payoff to pursuing political power, ergo no reason to use your social media service to pursue that end. You have to remember that Facebook and Twitter, with the subsidies, exclusive contracts, and regulatory favoritism they receive, aren't truly private organizations engaging in the voluntary market. Rather, social media serve as the DNC's propaganda ministry, they are political actors and should be treated as such.

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 No.101901

>>101741

burden of proof

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 No.101875 [Open thread]

>leftists can't understand this

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 No.100034 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

ITT: Post things we'll see in Ancapistan.

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 No.101407

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 No.101431

>>100034

You know I'm really bothered by the first image because I know the only reason you went with DeWalt was their color scheme.

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 No.101445

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I AM READY TO SACRIFICE MY WORTHLESS LIFE FOR THE RIGHT OF GAY MGTOW COUPLES TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND THEIR ARTIFICIAL WOMB FARMS WITH GENETICALLY ENGINEERED TENTACLE-BOYS

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 No.101473

>>101445

kys fucking animeposter

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 No.101869

>>100034

Selling the home made soaps made from natural plants in a leased shop owned and protected by the private soldiers.

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 No.101835 [Open thread]

Was he really all that great of a president for USA? Let’s be honest here fellas.

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 No.101852

File: 6aad8caf133a222⋯.png (230.12 KB,4000x4000,1:1,1511359127760.png)

>increased spending

>increased deficit

>increased taxes

>increased regulation

>increased tariffs and import quotas

Rhetoric aside, there is no reason to doubt that this guy was a crypto-communist.

https://mises.org/library/myths-reaganomics

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 No.101862

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>>101835

Reminder that Reagan won in the biggest election landslide in US history in 1984 for his reelection

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 No.101863

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>>101852

>Myths of Reaganomics

By embracing supply side economics, Reagan:

>grew GDP over one-third during Reagan's presidency, an over $2 trillion increase. The compound annual growth rate of GDP was 3.6% during Reagan's eight years, compared to 2.7% during the preceding eight years.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=k9Ev

>the unemployment rate was reduced by 1.6% from 7.1% in 1980 to 5.5% in 1988; and the inflation rate fell from 13.5% in 1980 to 4.1% in 1988. The misery index, the sum of inflation and unemployment rate, shrank from 19.99 to 9.72 during Reagan’s term, the greatest improvement record for a President since Harry S. Truman. (pic related)

>During the presidency of Ronald Reagan, the American economy went from a GDP growth of -0.3% in 1980 to 4.1% in 1988, averaging 7.91% annual growth in current dollars. From November 1982, when Reagan’s economic policies began to take effect, to November 1989, shortly after he left office, 18.7 million new jobs were created; a record for a comparable period at that time. The amount of wealth produced during this seven year period was around $30 trillion worth of goods and services; again a world record. The economic reforms of Ronald Reagan resulted in one of the largest peacetime economic booms in American history. Reagan also simplified the tax code by reducing the number of tax brackets to four and slashing a number of tax breaks. This was done through his famous Tax Reform Act of 1986.(also pic related)

>According to a 1996 study[93] by the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, on 8 of the 10 key economic variables examined, the American economy performed better during the Reagan years than during the pre- and post-Reagan years. The study asserted that real median family income grew by $4,000 and during the eight Reagan years and experienced a loss of almost $1,500 in the post-Reagan years. Interest rates, inflation, and unemplPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.101864

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>>101863

Jan 17 1990-"The Reagan Boom - Greatest Ever"

>Almost everyone knows that the greatest depression the U.S. ever had was in the 1930's. It was known as the Great Depression, and its infamy merits a separate section in economics textbooks. But what was its counterpart? When did our greatest economic expansion occur?

>We just had it. And it is still expanding, setting new records with each passing month.

>We don't know whether historians will call it the Great Expansion of the 1980's or Reagan's Great Expansion, but we do know from official economic statistics that the seven year period from 1982 to 1989 was the greatest, consistent burst of economic activity ever seen in the U.S. In fact, it was the greatest economic expansion the world has ever seen - in any country, at any time.

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/17/opinion/the-reagan-boom-greatest-ever.html

Why do you think everyone is always so nostalgic for the 80s?

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 No.99897 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Every time the government wants to pass something horrible that past two decades, it's the same four excuses:

>X helps proliferate child porn.

>This is a tool to stop money laundering.

>Gotta get tough on terrorism.

>There's a human trafficking crisis.

I know there's a lot of people who come onto this board and meme "BUt whAt IF thE chILd COnsENts," but is the libertarian movement going to get crushed because you can basically justify anything an authoritarian does by remotely connecting it to "Cracking down on CP" (or terrorism or human trafficking or money laundering)? Increase TSA searches because that cracks down on CP. Take away VPNs because those are used for CP. Take away Bitcoin because money laundering and only people selling CP would launder money. Take away everyone's gun because some hick in Virginia liked his gun and his cousin's mother-in-law turned out to have a ton of CP.

There's no talk about what would ACTUALLY stop this sort of stuff. It's always this fucking gut reaction. I'm getting kind of depressed by it.

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 No.101475

>>101409

This is excellent.

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 No.101516

>>101409

>Actual pedophilia, i.e. attraction to prepubescents, is both rare and overwhelmingly homosexual.

citation needed

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 No.101814

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Imagine getting angry when you see a female child. Anti-pedos are a danger for society, good thing they never leave their basement. Still, anti-pedos should be physically removed from the planet to assure women's safety.

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 No.101815

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 No.101860

>>101221

removing the welfare state

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