No.102001
Hey socialists,
Does it ever bother you how you're allies for multibillion dollar corporations? Do you find that strange at all? Does that cause no cognitive dissonance?
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No.102005
I think one of the many reasons big business ally with leftists is to save their own asses.
Big business are always under the spotlight and leftists policitians/bureaucrats have no problem in fucking them up for no reason. By playing ball with leftists they think they get some ability to negotiate.
There are no incentives for a big business to ally with free market people.
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No.102010
>>102005
There is that. But the identity politics stuff also makes for good consumers because people now willingly self-segregate into demographics.
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No.102011
>>102005
>"FUCK YOU, STOP TAXING AND REGULATING ME TO DEA–"
>"If you work with us, you'll at least be able to choose how your competitors get taxed and regulated."
>[Two nanoseconds later]
>https://archive.is/PaVgd
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No.102013
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No.102027
>>102005
Typically the longer they ally, the more they morph into covert branches of the state. Certainly any business that would not be financially solvent on its own or is a major accomplice in the governments crimes cannot be considered anything other than a creature of the state.
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No.102028
There's a difference between Trotskyist capitalist praxis and ethno-communism
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No.102029
There's also Social Corporatism, which was implemented in the early Falange so that's not the same thing either
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No.102047
Conservatives past laws that give socialism benefits to corporations. Who do you think is giving them tax cuts and cutting regulations so they get to to whatever they want. They were ruled to have the same rights as individuals. Who do you think made that happen? Conservatives.
The very ones who talk about the dangers of socialism. They only mean the dangers of socialism for the non rich. The wealthy get so much for free or on "Benefit" while the poor struggle to feed their families.
So talk about the fact that Conservatism only hates personal socialism programs not ones that benefit the rich.
The idea that socialists (AKA liberals to you) love to give big business these cuts is laughable. Stop using the word "Socialism" as a catch all liberal insult and learn about the real behavior of people in charge.
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No.102048
>>102047
>Who do you think is giving them tax cuts and cutting regulations so they get to to whatever they want.
Everyone. If you think leftists don't engage in regulatory capture just as much if not more than the GOP you're kidding yourself.
>They were ruled to have the same rights as individuals
The only thing that case decided was that corporations have 1st Amendment free speech, its implications are purely on election campaigning and not on regulations or finance. The fact that you mention it anyways shows you don't know what you're talking about.
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No.102049
>>102047
>conservatives are socialists too
Bingo! Now can you do the smart thing and attack socialism itself, instead of being another useful idiot for governments and politicians?
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No.102051
“One study by political scientists at University of Chicago, Columbia University and the London School of Economics found "that Citizens United increased the GOP’s average seat share in the state legislature by five percentage points. That is a large effect — large enough that, were it applied to the past twelve Congresses, partisan control of the House would have switched eight times. In line with a previous study, we also find that the vote share of Republican candidates increased three to four points, on average."[159][160] A 2016 study in the Journal of Law and Economics found "that Citizens United is associated with an increase in Republicans’ election probabilities in state house races of approximately 4 percentage points overall and 10 or more percentage points in several states. We link these estimates to on-the-ground evidence of significant spending by corporations through channels enabled by Citizens United“
But yea it only changed one thing and I do t know what I am talking about… keep watching Fox News and repeating what they tell you.
>>102049
Fire department, police, military, emergency rescue, disaster aid, all socialism systems. Road and bridge. Environmental maintenance( trails and off road areas) all things you and us make use of.
“Socialism” is a simple governing tactic. It takes many forms. Using it as a bad word is incredibly ignorant. Learn wtf is going on. Stop crying scare tactics from conservative talking points and Russian bots (who are shown to be the major supplier of anti-socialism memes and Facebook posts)
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No.102053
>>102051
>Russian bots
Axaxaxax слил меня, сучара!))))
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No.102054
Muller report just latest of countless reports that shows Russia trying to influence America with internet spamming. Pushing extreme ideas on both sides to make Americans fight.
Then you mock the idea of Russian bots? They are a proven thing that is shown to affect our country. They do it on both sides. They push extreme left and right to make us fight. Do you not understand?
All the talk of "Redpill" and waking up from the "Delusion" or being "tricked" but real conspiracy shit that is proven to affect our lives you think "No way! lolRussiabotlol"
Really?
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No.102055
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No.102056
>>102054
>he's so retarded that he legitimately defends the whole 'Russian bot' shit
How the fuck did a retard like you even find this site? The 11 o'clock news?
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No.102058
>>102054
Бляяя… Чё он тут вообще мямлит, пацаны?
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No.102059
>>102054
Hello comrade. I am Russian agent sent to infiltrate US presidential election. Unfortunately I do not know how to speak, read, or write Russian. Do you have any good resources for learning Russian?
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No.102061
>>102051
>all it changes is campaigning
<HAHA, LOOK AT THIS STUDY THAT SHOWS THEY WON MORE ELECTIONS, I SURE PROVED YOU WRONG RIGHT-WINGER
…Are you illiterate?
>Russian bots
Well, that answers that question.
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No.102062
>>102051
>>102054
I AM A RIGHT-WINGER AND I WATCH FOX NEWS OR I AM A RUSSIAN BOT. UR STUPID AND I BET U BELEEV THAT TAX CUTS R BAD. THAT R DUM. DREGULATION NO MAKE BAD TIMES. BAD TEIM BECUZ OBAMA. I SUPPORT THE WAR IN SYRIA.
^ what this guy thinks is going through everyone's head on this board.
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No.102064
>>102051
I wonder how they factor out all other variables that contributed to Republican gains. You would think unions (and Democrats) would have benefited the most from Citizens United.
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No.102091
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