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Ya'll need Mises.

File: 82a13d8fdc6d730⋯.jpeg (665.19 KB,1242x830,621:415,05F802BF_9B97_41A2_9744_B….jpeg)

 No.105571 [Open thread]

Karen these days

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File: 94ca862728f83df⋯.jpg (127.72 KB,720x518,360:259,f4u1qqw4fe131.jpg)

 No.103991 [Open thread]

As long as there is a patent system, a medical board, a drugs prescription system or any other stuff that impede the free market, healthcare must be paid by the rich and the healthcare market must be highly regulated.

Yes, it's inefficient but it's better than having the current american system. If you defend the american system you are an american cuck who doesn't know how good universal healthcare can be in rich capitalists countries (it's really fucking good and shits on american healthcare all the time).

I want to make it clear: it's not the perfect solution, but it's the best solution when free market is impossible. It's a game of coercion and if you let the jew doctors run free, they'll ruin your health.

I say this as a person who has thousands of hours of ancap studies on his back, with Mises Institute, PFS, etc

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 No.104046

>>104041

You're repeating yourself. Everyone who frequents this board is already aware of the problems caused by patents, FDA meddling, hospital subsidies, and every other interference in the US market. Most are probably more aware of it than you are. The fact that the US system is shit does not mean the European system is any less shit.

>The big difference is that in the EU you can do everything you do in the US but also for free and/or at a lower-cost

The fact that you specifically are paying a lower cost does not mean the costs are lower.

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 No.105555

So abolish the patent system

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 No.105557

File: 07d258f24e5bbce⋯.jpg (357.66 KB,720x1280,9:16,Screenshot_20200514_114044….jpg)

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 No.105560

>>104000

>>104003

>what do you think happens when you get cancer?

You launch a fundraiser to be able to pay for treatment in the US.

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 No.105564

>>105557 What "basic freedoms" are denied to black people in America?

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File: 135ea6432c4e31a⋯.jpg (394.42 KB,1320x710,132:71,2019iq.jpg)

 No.103959 [Open thread]

>Richard Lynn's most recent numbers, from 2019 and this book

>http://www.ulsterinstitute.org/intellofnations.html

What are the implications of this data for libertarianism and the people that like /liberty/? Is there a necessary IQ threshold for caring about abstractions like democracy and freedom?

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 No.103975

>>103959

>democracy

>freedom

choose one

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 No.103983

anons is it a good idea to take mexicana girl as wife? she has usa citizenship while im an european

she might be intelligent but what about regression to the mean when it comes to offspring? :(

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 No.105556

>>103959

>Is there a necessary IQ threshold for caring about abstractions like democracy and freedom?

Apparently its pretty low considering Brazil

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File: c24960be21a4938⋯.jpg (887.66 KB,1439x2036,1439:2036,Screenshot_20190219-101153….jpg)

 No.98312 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

>Ludwig von Mises was born to Jewish parents in the city of Lemberg, Galicia, Austria-Hungary (Ukrainian : Lviv, now Ukraine).

Should this concern me?

Do I have any guarantee that he was not informed by malicious talmudism, given that he was probably exposed to it? Everything he wrote certainly seems to counter it.

>You're just a /pol/ anti-semite

The NWO is overwhelmingly Jewish. The Frankfurt school is the Genesis of our present statist situation. Obviously you're not a member of the NWO by virtue of being born a heeb

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 No.101116

File: 6323f2c192f22e1⋯.jpg (92.12 KB,1024x576,16:9,DuEFb_eUwAAP6Zo.jpg)

>>101113

Fuck off, Johnson. No one gives a fuck about your watered-down egalitarian libertarianism. I discriminate against whiteoids as much as I want.

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 No.101132

>>101114

Go back to trannypol, boot licker

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 No.101186

>>101132

What an unbelievable moron you are.

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 No.105548

File: daedb6ce1118e48⋯.jpg (56.62 KB,964x569,964:569,IMG_20191016_134048.jpg)

Is Hoppe a jew?

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 No.105553

File: a67c2af254470b5⋯.png (100.17 KB,796x902,398:451,a67c2af254470b5da4d2d60761….png)

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>>98316

Ashkenazim are overrepresented at the top of society and science because they have high IQ

imagine unironically believing this

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 No.104818 [Open thread]

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 No.104905

>>104887

shut up nigger

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 No.104906

>>104905

kill yourself you retarded kike

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 No.104908

File: 64406762904fb4c⋯.png (203.27 KB,535x434,535:434,n0pv7i2ro2b21.png)

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 No.105551

.

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 No.105552

>>104829

you surely showed him with this cuckchan wojak meme

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File: 200b91d64a7d225⋯.jpg (164.92 KB,1208x720,151:90,fuck8chan.jpg)

 No.105488 [Open thread]

Fuck you 8chan. You're the laughing stock of the internet. And the funniest part is you still think you scare people, just because you associate with mass shooters and spew racist, homophobic bullshit to try and look edgy. Well you don't scare me. At all.

I'm a male webcam model on the site Flirt4Free, under the name Milton Hanson. I use pathetic incel virgin losers like you to buy whatever the fuck I want.

I'm better looking than you, richer than you and smarter than you. Basically I'm better than you in every single way. You suck and I think you're fucking pathetic.

I'm going back on cam right now so come into my room. I can't keep replying to this thread while I'm on cam, so lets see if your brave enough to talk shit to my face. Unless you're too much of a pussy?

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 No.105497

File: 6dc334c8bebb33c⋯.png (96.43 KB,500x356,125:89,stopiticantbreathe-youre-k….png)

>>105496

You were probably banned for making a non political thread on the politics board. At least now I know it was motivated by money.

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 No.105501

Excellent advertisement for your cam job, to fingers up 🖕🖕

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 No.105502

File: 2d518068adf504a⋯.webm (1.84 MB,427x240,427:240,hot_little_car.webm)

Nice bait.

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 No.105506

File: 57e93f3084409fe⋯.jpg (59.94 KB,1077x964,1077:964,bait girl 2.jpg)

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 No.105549

Sir this is a Wendys.

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File: 198823ae805aa85⋯.png (288.41 KB,755x708,755:708,1560000691389.png)

 No.102888 [Open thread]

>Rand

Atheist Jew

>Rothbard

Atheist Jew

>Mises

Atheist Jew

>Bernstein

Atheist Jew

>Popper

Atheist Jew

>Friedman

Atheist Jew

>Ricardo

Atheist Jew

>Block

Atheist Jew

>David Friedman

Atheist Jew

>Kirzner

Son of a literal Rabbi

>Schiff

Jew

I feel like you guys are being duped and I don't even believe in the Jewish conspiracy. Something is definitely up here.

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 No.103270

>>102977

/thread

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 No.103566

File: d8acd5fe1a29762⋯.jpg (11.23 KB,222x250,111:125,whos jewing who.jpg)

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 No.103571

>>102888

>Étienne de la Boétie

Roman Catholic

>Alexis de Tocqueville

Roman Catholic

>Frédéric Bastiat

Roman Catholic

>Lord Acton

Roman Catholic

>Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

Roman Catholic

>Tom Woods

Roman Catholic

>Janusz Korwin Mikke

Roman Catholic

Liberalism (in the proper sense of the word) is a very wide movement, you will find all kinds of denominations and nations within it. That is no secret. You could probably play the same game with socialism, but unlike them, the Jews within our movement are easy to detect, making it easy to filter out those aspects of their philosophies that have a Jewish slant to them, like Blocks and (early) Rothbards socially permissive attitude.

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 No.103603

>>103571

Most of those believed in divine kings or at least divine rulership, like monarchies. Most Jewish libertarians were stuck on the idea of "let's let corporations run the state"

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 No.105547

>>102977

We need a more beautiful update

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File: 35d2a5c4c4a7832⋯.png (657.72 KB,1009x813,1009:813,gwr876lb3rz21.png)

 No.104932 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

I love liberty, but we lost.

When millennials and GenZ will get into governments seats, all western countries will end up into various degree of socialism.

This means that we need to start to prepare and learn how to profit from socialism.

Problem is that I have no idea how to do it. What would you think it could be the best course of action?

Of course, we're entering a dark era where there won't be place for conscience, so one will not be able to follow his libertarian principles in his actions.

I feel really unprepared.

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 No.105463

>>105459

look around, talk with people. Even supposedly well-educate people are in favor of socialism, since they think socialism is just free-healthcare and whatever magic can fix the world.

Pure brainlets, but that's what we have and why I want to find a way to get a big boot and put everyone under it.

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 No.105503

social security: socialism

medicare: socialism

unemployment insurance: socialism

job training: socialism

corporate tax credits (for oil, corn, etc): socialism

SNAP benefits: socialism

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 No.105505

File: ddd3ee22e61a8fe⋯.png (160.58 KB,1440x2560,9:16,ancap_wallpaper.png)

>>105503

They're all under the umbrella of market interventionism. It doesn't matter whether it's socialism, keynesianism, mercantilism, or some other form of market interventionism that claims to be "different from the rest." They might be different degrees of stupid, but they're all stupid. People like you remind me of how nazis get butthurt that someone called nazism national-socialism or socialism; they try to distance themselves from the other failed ideologies while not changing the fundamental principles of those ideologies that cause them to fail.

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 No.105510

>>104932

Simple, become a corrupt politician and skim the top of public funds.

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 No.105535

>>105201

<where the fuck you see, ideologically speaking, socialism in our governments?

>the centripetal force giving more and more power to the central government isn't socialism

>doubling down on welfare state isn't socialism

>raising taxation and introducing retarded trade limitations isn't socialism

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File: 17bf8525533f197⋯.jpg (109.39 KB,1024x1280,4:5,1503875337014.jpg)

 No.101591 [Open thread]

What spooks do you like and dislike the most.

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 No.101597

>>101593

Well spooked, my property.

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 No.101623

File: d424cb6ed10563b⋯.png (64.73 KB,617x666,617:666,1343667055556.png)

>>101591

>whats your biggest spook?

Aside from (you)? Stirner is the spookiest spook that ever spooked from spooksville.

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 No.101793

Rape. It just doesn't exist

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 No.105527

All spooks are absolute trash and deserve to be hung by their own entrails outside their family home.

Hypothetically of course, I only meme.

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 No.105534

File: 0fd3410f4737d6e⋯.png (97.29 KB,600x530,60:53,0fd3410f4737d6e7451bbd1112….png)

>>101623

To arms, gentlemen.

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File: 2f24f4bfa98dafb⋯.jpg (87.07 KB,450x320,45:32,Surfs_Up_Bro.jpg)

 No.105530 [Open thread]

>>>/freedomzine/ welcomes >>>/liberty/ back!

Moar Liberty! Moar Freedom! Moar Overflowing Abundance!

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 No.105531

File: ef66c5de0624fcb⋯.jpg (987.32 KB,2643x1982,2643:1982,Pinay_Visionaries.jpg)

>>105530

>Some just ramble on and say nothing. Some point toward the truth, toward the way out; but most just pound their chests, hoot and holler, and get everybody riled up about nothing, then everybody beats up on someone they can all blame, and everybody can get back to business as usual – pointing out the things that bug us in "others".

Interdasting bread… >>>/freedomzine/1993

What does /liberty/ think of Libertarians who lean a little Anarchic? Or how about those, like Johnny Neptune, who drink Leftard KoolAid by the gallons?

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 No.105533

>>105530

Thank you friend

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 No.105499 [Open thread]

As Liberty in the US seems to fade, I would like to immigrate, but gun laws suck. How can we encourage non-cucked gun laws across the world?

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 No.105507

If you want laws you can have politicians roll back gun control? I don't think that seems likely so the other option is spreading files of guns and having the 3d printed guns. There was a guy on twitter called Ivan the troll who worked on the 3d printed guns. I think he had to get a new account.

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File: 92d7b2d6215711a⋯.png (42.98 KB,430x136,215:68,price.png)

 No.105449 [Open thread]

Lets be honest, both Marxian and Austria Economics have failed (I'm not even gonna talk about Chicago). So, embrace tradition: return to Proudhon, the single most genius economist.

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 No.105482

>>105477

I don't think you actually understand what austrian economics is, first of all it assumes the subjective theory of value, how is that wrong, and second of all how did it fail? You just avoided his question.

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 No.105483

>>105482

For starters it has abomanble pseudoscience of praxeology as its basis. And when base aint good, neither is the rest

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 No.105487

>>105483

I eagerly await your formal proof that shows man does not act.

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 No.105500

>>105483

>Baseless assertions

If you hate the Austrians so much, you should at least have an argument against them, otherwise, how do you know they are wrong?

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 No.105504

File: 4a29e588facfde4⋯.png (102.04 KB,216x255,72:85,f0f9512d030ee77f75a793d3df….png)

>>105487

>>105500

Its a pseudoscience, its not based in evidence

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File: 05db43ddfebe3da⋯.jpeg (68.85 KB,960x720,4:3,49838ED6-7E45-457A-9651-0….jpeg)

 No.105486 [Open thread]

Read.

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File: 81483648681a765⋯.jpg (285.69 KB,1599x899,1599:899,braves.jpg)

 No.105465 [Open thread]

Thousands of Hong Kong protesters have started occupying roads in Kennedy Town, and are marching towards Sheung Wan on Hong Kong Island.

Earlier in the day, tens of thousands took to the streets of Tsueng Kwan O in an approved march. Hundreds then gathered outside the police station, throwing bricks and pelting the building with eggs, prompting a police warning before they dispersed themselves.

The chaos comes a day after clashes in the shopping hubs of Mong Kok and Tsim Sha Tsui, as well as in the working-class residential district of Wong Tai Sin, where tear gas was used by police.

Protesters’ demands are largely the same as in previous recent rallies, including the full withdrawal of the bill and an inquiry into police actions over the handling of protests.

>Hong Kong’s huge protests, explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_RdnVtfZPY [Embed]

>Manifesto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7LYrLemXOw [Embed]

>For /brit/ anons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOpoMURo8pM [Embed]

>When a Mob Attacked Protesters in Hong Kong, the Police Walked Away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDtM3dEJdHo [Embed]

>Latest Developments

https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c95yz8vxvy8t/hong-kong-extradition-protests

>Live Updates

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3021341/hong-kong-police-fire-tear-gas-sheung-Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.105473

File: dd3f81c1169afc5⋯.jpg (77.38 KB,660x440,3:2,1564922369822.jpg)

File: 9edf47af0a99ced⋯.jpg (84.4 KB,660x440,3:2,1564922387789.jpg)

Freedom-loving, anti-commie HK cuties at some place called Causeway Bay.

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 No.105474

File: 1d5703beeaf16af⋯.jpg (107.15 KB,660x495,4:3,1564923392605.jpg)

File: 30eb6714fc70b3e⋯.jpg (93.52 KB,660x495,4:3,1564923498152.jpg)

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File: 5296d652a51d1df⋯.jpg (85.44 KB,660x371,660:371,1564925560924.jpg)

Meanwhile, on the westbound lane of Gloucester Road, protesters have set up roadblocks.

An exit in the direction of Central at the Cross-Harbour Tunnel is now blocked.

Some among protesters are calling for others to head to the Cross-Harbour Tunnel in another attempt to form a flash mob there. A stream of people heads in that direction. The tunnel was briefly blocked twice in a span of five hours on Saturday night.

Separately, a group is heading for their next target, the Golden Bauhinia Square in Wan Chai.

Golden Bauhinia Square

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 No.105476

File: c310272e2249789⋯.jpg (74.91 KB,660x440,3:2,1564928629864.jpg)

File: 5d692ea92874938⋯.jpg (77.15 KB,660x440,3:2,1564928648784.jpg)

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Causeway Bay again.

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 No.105478

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Over in Wong Tai Sin, outside the disciplined services quarters, about 100 local residents are hurling abuse at riot police, saying they are not welcome in the community. Police maintain standby positions, occasionally pointing strong lights at the crowds. A female resident who verbally supports the police is strongly scolded by the crowd.

Dozens have arrived at the MTR station in Lam Tin – one stop along from Kwun Tong – and have blocked an exit, using wooden boards to fend off any possible police clearance. No officers have been spotted yet. At a bypass to Kwun Tong outside Lam Tin MTR station, some are also blocking the road.

About 200 protesters are now heading down Lei Yue Mun Road in Lam Tin, seeming to be heading to where others are at Kwun Tong Police Station.

A group of protesters are at their final flash mob stop in Mei Foo. They build barricades on Lai Chi Kok Road and leave the scene within 10 minutes. “Let’s go home. See you tomorrow,” they chant. (There's a big protest planned for tomorrow.)

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Bags of clothes have been placed outside the restroom in Mei Foo MTR station so protesters can get changed before heading home. This is to avoid detection by police or other opponents who have targeted people in black, the colour worn by demonstrators.

Police have fired tear gas at hundreds of protesters gathered near to a disciplined services quarters in the east Kowloon neighbourhood. Before the gas was fired, police tweeted: "A large group of protesters are currently surrounding the Wong Tai Sin Police Station and Wong Tai Sin Disciplined Services Quarters, hurling suspected corrosive fluid at police officers, posing a serious threat to the safety of everyone on site."

Some people were arrested and carried away by riot police outside Tin Shui Wai police station after they dispersed protesters and local residents at 1am on Sunday night.

>https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/1158069353868189696

Some links: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-04/very-dangerous-situation-hong-kong-government-issues-warning-protests-become

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/02/calls-general-strike-7-rallies-across-hong-kong-monday-protests-escalate

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 No.97332 [Open thread]

does turkey support terrorism? why?

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>>97341

>destroy every sovereign independent nation

>Like what they did to Libya.

I like how you conspiracytard aut right faggots bitch about shit like the disrespect of national sovereignty, supporting the overthrow of other nations, and supporting terrorist while lionizing a islamic socialist like Gaddafis whos entire fucking ideology was about constantly interfering with the sovereignty of his African neighbors by supporting any and all rebel groups fighting against them (including encouraging the Nation of Islam to rise in rebellion against the US and that he would supply them) , supporting terrorism, and working to create his own EU in the form of The United States of Africa. Reminder he was also a huge backer of both the communist anti Rhodesian rebels during and anti aparthaid south africans and was a really good friend to Nelson Mandella. Israel was one of the few nations in the world to side with Rhodesia btw.

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 No.104639

>>97332

What does this have to do with /liberty/?

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 No.105154

>>104639

oh so it is not a place to discuss politics?

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 No.105327

>>105154

I mean you can if it's libertarian/ancap related. It's not a board for general news and politics.

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>>97332

Yes, Turkey has been actively supporting terrorists in Syria. Two important motivations are

1) Turkey's intention to replace Assad with a more moderate, sunni replacement.

2) Also there's Kurdistan, the ``de facto`` state which encompasses some Turkish territory. Erdogan tries to target the Kurds by sponsoring islamic (primarily sunni) terrorists. The sunni terrorists and Kurds have been in conflict for a while because of religious differences.

>pic unrelated

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