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Ya'll need Mises.

File: e55ba3ab7fbb512⋯.png (71.12 KB,700x700,1:1,CUP LOGO 2.png)

 No.103088 [Open thread]

GREETINGS /liberty/

The Infinity Cup is returning once again, and 8chan's boards will be fighting it out on the pitch to claim divegrass supremacy. As a board that has participated in the Cup at one point or another in its history, you are invited to the reveal stream for 2019 Summer edition of the Cup. On Saturday June 22nd, at 3 PM EDT/7 PM UTC, on cytu.be/r/8cup I'll be giving you guys an early look at the Cup's 5th edition, which will include revamped aesthetics, team stadiums and other quality of life improvements I've figured out how to do in PES 17. Hopefully this will get anons back on board with the Cup, considering it has struggled mightily since its 2nd incarnation.

So how is it going to go down? I'll be staging a couple of exhibition matches between teams using their rosters from the last Cup, and we'll shitpost our merry way through the stream. Once the stream ends, entries will be open for the Cup, and boards can start putting together/editing their rosters and kits. Entries will close in early July, the field will be determined, and the Group Draw will take place approximately a week before the Cup kicks off in August. I'm also hoping to possibly introduce managers for the Cup, although I'm still working out the details to keep this from devolving into a namefag dick measuring contest. I hope you all will tune in, and in case you aren't caught up on your board's history, I've provided some links below to get you caught up:

http://infinitycup.shoutwiki.com/wiki//liberty/

>>>/8cup/3041

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 No.104339

Does anyone here know how to do the new kits so we don't get disqualified?

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 No.104343

>>104339

You can either do them by hand with the templates in >>104091 or use a creator site like http://www.pesmaster.com/pes-2017/kit-creator/

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 No.104516

Just a couple days left to finalize the uniforms.

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 No.104524

>>104516

who gives a shit

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 No.104555

File: 67ff26a65567770⋯.png (168.84 KB,750x750,1:1,liberty_logo.png)

2 kits are due by tomorrow.

>>104524

You cared enough to bump the thread.

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 No.104509 [Open thread]

Socialist, national or otherwise, are born and bred to be slaves. I don't care if you don't pass your horrible genes so long you serve me.

Weak men are the normalfags. Those cucks who want to serve women and want equality in any way. Doesn't matter if they are nazis are commies.

Once we make the world ancap I will "unite" everyone… under my boot. Does that make me ancap, fascist or monarch? I know the answer, I wanna see if you know.

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 No.104510

Shit, didn't realize it would look like reddit formatting

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 No.104511

>>104509

i would rather march with communists or fascists before i pick a single weed for a ancap,

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 No.104513

File: 66f6740e7181071⋯.webm (436.68 KB,768x576,4:3,you-don't-belong-here_go-….webm)

>Once we make the world ancap I will "unite" everyone… under my boot.

No-one cares about your power fantasies, you autistic redditfaggot.

You need to go back.

SAGE

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 No.104518

>>104511

This. OP should suck my dick since usually when some one talks about something they despise, they usually desire it.

T. Freud

T. Bataille

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 No.104521

>>104511

>I'd much rather do something useless and masturbatory before I do something that might be valuable

Well, of course.

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 No.104397 [Open thread]

What is /Liberty/'s thoughts on gambling microtransactions in video games?

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 No.104441

File: 3fc46a44f9e1c86⋯.jpg (80.1 KB,640x640,1:1,xixixi.jpg)

>paying for a video game

<paying for little bits of a video game

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 No.104446

>>104397

If you're dumb enough to buy these things, you deserve to lose your money.

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 No.104452

File: c90c63fda5a7c75⋯.jpg (24.56 KB,300x225,4:3,300px-JimSterlingComic.jpg)

fuck jim sterling he's a faggot commie that is trying to get his fans to bother politicians for video game regulation

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 No.104499

Looking at video i ask where did his son get the money?

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 No.104504

>>104399

Basically this.

When you ban something people become more susceptible to fall for it tricks. Gambling in most Asian countries is banned and at the same time they have the absolute worst gamling issues of the entire world there.

When you ban drugs, people become unable to learn and protect properly against them. When you ban gambling, people become unable to learn, identify, and protect properly agains them.

Gambling is also almost impossible to define. In japan most gambling is forbidden but pachinko is ok because it is a "game" and you technically don't win money (but can exchange for money later). If they were to ban pachinko tomorrow, companies would come out with some other pseudo-game with gambling options to hook people. At the end what you get is a population that i unable to realize what is gambling and what is isn't, neither it knows of it dangers because papa state is always protecting (but not really)

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 No.102426 [Open thread]

As the Bell Curve by Charles Murray shows, wealth has a high correlation with both IQ and emotional intelligence.

As every libertarian does know the intelectual principle that underlies all human rights is the right to own things or people (i.e. self-ownership principle) through the mechanism of self-enforced self-defended private property.

A requisite for owning wealth is the ability to govern that wealth, as idle wealth is ownerless, for example, an asteroid with deposits of precious ores or uncolonised land.

An animal cannot own property, but a computer can, as animals are unintelligent creatures, and intelligence is what defines humanity.

This is why poorfags are closer to beast than to us.

Ayn Rand was wrong.

Not only poor people are not entitled to our wealth, WE are entitled to THEIR wealth as the animals they are cannot hold property.

Eugenics are good by definition, because income has a high correlation with intelligence, those who are richer are more human than those poorer, thus, any behaviour should be allowed to those in the top, maybe with the exception of degeneracy and charity.

And while it is true that soon Gene Therapy will become avalaible, only us can afford it, so eugenics are still useful to keep poorfags in their rightful place.

People who oppose us, like socialists, vegans or vegan socialists are "people" who want things like taxation, animal rights based on "painism", private charities, human rights not based upon property rights, atheism or antichristianism, labour unions, the abolition of slavery or other any other form of collective delusions.

Effective altruism and charities are not only defective by definiton, but also impossible, as they not only promotes dysgenics, but create an unnatural redistribution of wealth, which should stopped at all cost.

Socialists, liberals and far-left collectivists alike may, in rare occasions, have an intelligence high enough to hold property, however, they are clearly mentally ill, as they contradict the very own property rights that allows them to exist in thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.102809

File: aaad1a9f73ab62d⋯.jpg (21.26 KB,220x318,110:159,220px-Diogenes_in_Thomas_S….jpg)

>>102806

>Blocks your path.

>Bites your ankles

>Stumbles into your house and shits on your carpet

BEHOLD! A TRUE MAN!

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 No.102814

>>102809

Why do neetsocs/socialists praise this degenerate so much? Is it because he reminds them of themselves? Because he was a useless NEET?

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 No.104300

>>102637

accelerationism is all about deterritorialization and turning social capital into economic capital, so yes.

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 No.104356

>>102814

I think anyone who has a disdain for authority - or memes - finds something admirable about Diogenes. He told Alexander the Great to get out of his sunlight. He was either so oblivious to memes as to be immune to them or so disdainful of them as to ignore them. That's a great power and one I think some people here have to some extent. But I've seen no evidence that he respected any memes at all, which is probably folly. Not all ideas are dysmemetic (or however you'd construct that word, I'm not a professional linguist).

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 No.104390

>>102426

is emotional intelligence positively corelated with iq?

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 No.104122 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

/nhg/ NSDAP HOPPEAN GENERAL

Hi, we are part of the NSDAP Hoppean GANG. Basically, we combine Nazi Esotericism and the philosophy of Aryanism, with Techno-Markets, and Economics. The Nazis failed because their production schedules and market capabilities lagged behind the International Jewry's production capabilities. As you can see, the Jewish Corporation named USSR allied with the Rothschild Corporation who owned Great Britain and the United States territories, to destroy National Socialist Germany. The Nazi Government was indeed socialist, and heavily regulated markets! This is why their production capabilities lagged extremely far behind the USSR, who just acted like on big corporation and thus destroyed Germany with her rich resources. Aryan Warriors could not beat Jewish Production, i.e. they still had to obey the Economic laws which are Natural Laws.

The allegation that Austrian Economics or Libertarianism is jewish, is absolute nonsense. Carl Menger created the Austrian School of Economics. Lysander Spooner, Benjamin Tucker, John Locke, and Gustave de Molinari created AnCap-Libertarianism. However, National Socialism heavily based itself on the principles of Stalinism, not necessarily the jewish enslavement system of communism, but very close to it. Joseph Goebbels even said that Hitlerism and Communism were extremely similar. Hitler and the Einsatzgruppen executed millions of communists. This is fucking based and absolutely redpilled. They also took genetics into account. The Slavs are genetically predisposed to jewish enslavement of communism. ABOLISH SLAVS, jkjk. But you get the point.

There is a post, that perfectly extrapolates on our goals here: https://poal.co/s/hoppeanism/73672/3957fd99-b44e-4a10-a199-54ce04b52306

Basically, our goal dumbs down to this, fuse ariosophy and economics together to create the Neo-Libertarian NSDAP Hoppean movement.

We are located on poal.co, as reddit kPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.104342

>>104338

The recognition of minors as moral agents does not necessitate the existence of the state.

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 No.104346

File: 9d5d66e75ee10d1⋯.png (572.96 KB,640x640,1:1,kali 4.png)

>>104313

Name a women more beautiful than kali you can't

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 No.104347

>>104342

Let me put it in a way you soyboy/moralniggers understand:

when you kill your own kid its ok

when you kill my kid its not ok

When I kill your kid it's ok

simple as nature, faggot

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 No.104357

File: ac8b99f8b92c6fb⋯.jpg (34.06 KB,569x465,569:465,asdfasdf.jpg)

>>104347

>simple as nature, faggot

this 2BQH

the problem is that it's in the interest of a (((small group of people))) to create states as a method of coercion

then we need to collectivize in order to protect our self interest of not being statist cucks but that means us ancaps are actually progressive communists

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 No.104389

>>104346

kali yuga?

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 No.103945 [Open thread]

Well?

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 No.104368

Don't know about Distributism but I guess Georgism might be left-libertarian on the political compass? It's still related to libertarianism so it would be in that range at least.

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 No.104105 [Open thread]

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 No.104110

>>104109

Subreddits that are dedicated to an "intellectual" pursuit such as this one, askreddit, etc., are Dunning-Krueger personified.

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 No.104113

Who wrote that does not know that the gold standard works unlike the flat earth.

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 No.104114

Either they're a bunch of Keynesians or they're referring to the fact that there are still means by which nations can fuck with currency even with a gold backing; gold backing just makes it a little harder.

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 No.104120

The nonlarping parts of the left know well.

Most of the lolbertarians could do… better than this thread.

Reddit spacing (greaterthan) reddit thread. D00d

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 No.104360

>Supporters of the gold standard think that some sort of gold value peg prevents governments from adjusting its value, when in fact, government would periodically adjust the value of gold all the time.

>government would periodically adjust the value of gold all the time.

>periodically adjust the value of gold all the time.

>adjust the value of gold

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 No.104344 [Open thread]

It's not enough to rid Europe of niggers. If you believe in ANY form of "based" socialism, you either have nigger-tier intellect, or you're a mentally ill loser who feels no shame surviving by parasitizing off of the rest of his people. When we take power, we will cleanse you along with your subhuman brethren.

In the bright ancap future, the African continent will be a proving grounds to which we send our young to hunt less evolved beings as a rites of passage. This important process of natural selection is to ensure genetic hygiene, so that our "good times" will not create "weak men" that are offended and intimidated by property, markets, and competition.

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 No.104278 [Open thread]

Some old fuck Antifa guy attacks a prison holding illegal immigrants and tried to firebomb the facility, then died in a shootout with the police.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tacoma-ice-police-shooting-washington-willem-van-spronsen-antifa-detention-centre-a9004131.html

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 No.104328

>>104303

Well they can't meme, so it makes sense that they couldn't properly shoot up a building.

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 No.104333

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 No.104334

>>104328

>Bad at irl shitposting

What are they even good at?

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 No.104348

>>104333

I really don't get what they want to accomplish making stale memes like this. Yes, the people with guns who have no qualms with shooting you but are trying to not end up in jail for the rest of their life call the police on you. Would leftists prefer if the "right" folks murder them instead?

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 No.104349

>>104334

Getting AIDS.

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 No.103630 [Open thread]

what is the difference between capitalism and free market? in free market there is no big business and skyscrapers?

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 No.103749

>>103662

but there are leftists who are pro-free-market right?

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 No.103751

>>103749

A couple, ostensibly. But all of them that I've seen either want a market that is slightly less than free (e.g., market anarchists who define certain voluntary interactions as coercive), or are ignorant as to the market's implications (e.g., libertines under the impression their actions won't have consequences). The free market is, if you understand its implications, fundamentally a right wing ideal.

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 No.103846

>>103671

what is the difference according to lefties?

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 No.103899

>>103846

Capitalism big bad, grrrr

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 No.104273

>>103846

For mainstream lefties, it's not a difference in definition but in usage. "Capitalism" invokes images of capitalists, the greedy moneygrubbers who get fat at the expense of the poor, oppressed working class. For less mainstream lefties, there are certain groups who see a distinction, such as the market anarchists and mutualists. Such types will usually say that interest rates and capital accumulation are "capitalist" and wrong, but other sorts of exchange are fine because they aren't exploitive. This is also the where the you start seeing arbitrary distinctions between "private property" and "personal property," with the former being capitalist and the latter not.

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 No.104206 [Open thread]

Continued from the QTDDTOT >>>104111:

How would you say vigilante justice on another's behalf would work in ancap? "Vigilantism" in defense of one's own property and community is simple enough to justify, but acting to defend the rights of another person who has not employed you could get a little complicated. Let's say you're a prospective vigilante, and you were very reasonably certain that Smith was keeping Jones chained up in his basement without Jones's consent for Smith's own amusement. You are acquainted with Jones, but he is neither a member of your family, nor a client you are paid to protect, nor has he called for your assistance that you know of.

In my view, it would work something like this: You couldn't simply break into Smith's house. But, if you have told Smith that he is violating Jones's rights and you will work as Jones's agent to defend his rights if he does not cease, you would be in the right to take whatever steps are necessary to free Jones. However, if for whatever reason upon being freed Jones refuses to acknowledge you as his agent, and does not recognize you as acting in defense of him, Smith is only then liable to sue you for property damage. Does this sound accurate?

Obviously, in most cases acting as an agent on someone else's behalf would be considered fraud. But, as the person as whose agent you are acting would be the one who presses charges against you, if he decides he's okay with the actions you've taken in his name and gives them the stamp of approval, it's not an enforceable infraction.

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 No.104208

Generally Good Samaritan rules should apply. You can't hold someone liable for trying to save your life/fix your shit unless they do so incompetently and knowingly without qualification to do so (E.G. you can't go after someone for damaging your ribs by performing CPR, even if they aren't a certified practitioner, but you could certainly go after them if they were not certified, not instructed on how to perform CPR by a competent individual, and they just slammed their fist into your sternum repeatedly causing further damage).

Similarly you can't go after someone for fixing your property without asking, but you don't have to reimburse them and you can demand reparations if they in fact damaged your property because they were incompetent and knowingly tried to do so anyways.

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 No.104242

File: b3b70a178fa4624⋯.jpg (160.91 KB,604x604,1:1,IQqgqsc3F88.jpg)

>>104208

ie. You're taking a risk. It's kinda like when you're on a date, and you're being a sperg and you don't know if you should give her a kiss or if she will shoot you in self-defense, and obviously you don't ask "can I kiss you?" or "can I fugg you?" before doing the act because it's too weird and unnatural. So in the end you don't do anything at all.

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 No.104251

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>>104242

Now I'm just imagining some guy in ancapistan getting ready to go full vigilante, he's put on his batman mask and hockeypads, has his Davy Crockett McNuke rifle locked and loaded…

…then freezes right outside Kang Ooga's Compound of Child Slaves and NAP violation, fraught with indecision…does he have affirmative consent? What if the victims don't want to be rescued by you and are creeped out by it? OhshitIhesitatedandnowthemoment'sover, oh well. Then he goes home and plays some escapist vidya instead.

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 No.104257

>>104242

i would ask her

t. autist

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 No.104245 [Open thread]

What are your thoughts on billionaire businessman and famed Democrat donor Ed Buck?

For those who arent aware, on July 27, 2017, a young African American man and gay prostitute named Gemmel Moore was found dead in Bucks home. His death was ruled an overdose and various drug paraphernalia as well as sex toys and porn were found littered around Bucks home.

On January 7, 2019, another African American man, 55-year-old Timothy Michael Dean, died at Buck's home. Once again, his death was ruled an overdose and drugs, syringes, porn, and sex toys were found littered around the body.

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 No.105524

J

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 No.105525

K

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 No.105526

L

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 No.105528

M

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 No.105529

N

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 No.102346 [Open thread]

>be me

>be ancap

>keep arguing with normies "no dont be stupid anarcho capitalism is not neo feudalism"

>reads history

>discovers that feudalism is actually very based

>realizes that ancaps might as well be neo feudalists but thats actually a good thing

Anyone else or I just actually lost my mind?

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 No.104082

>>104066

<save Germany from a depression

Half-true. Weimar was a complete shithole and the Reich was less of a shithole. But the measures they took to build-up the Reich weren't sustainable, and the beginnings of collapse were beginning to show in the last half of the war as inflation rates started to go up. If Allied bombs hadn't done the jobs first, the Reich economy would have severely collapsed.

The rest of your points are mostly on-point, but you missed that the krauts didn't just take on loans to pay off debt, they printed money and played an inflationary shell game with multiple currencies to try and hide how much money they'd printed.

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 No.104083

>>104066

>>104082

When Hitler took power a recovery was already underway and unemployment was decreasing. A restoration of normality could have happened under any government.

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 No.104093

Oh hey, this thread is still around. I was about to respond to

>>102577

>>104066

But

>>102578

>>104082

Beat me to it again with a much "better" thought-out response along very similar lines.

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 No.104094

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>>104066

It was more like

>Germany is coming out of depression on its own

>Take over

>Artificially speed the process up in true Keynesian fashion before Keynes was a thing by investing at the mid-point production instead of in R&D

>Economy looks great on the surface but is a giant spending bubble about to collapse

>Don't even have as good of cars as the Americans who fuck around

>Take on loans to fund projects

>International bankers won't even fucking invest in your economy because they can see your Jewish scheme from a mile away

>Beg America and Great Britain for loans

>America and Great Britain have an active interest in seeing the German economy restored and getting it back on its feet

>They send what would now days be tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars against their better judgement

>NSDAP friction-welds their hands together - "we got 'em"

>Invest nonstop into public makework projects that produce zero real wealth

>Nationalize businesses and kill what was a recovering local economy in exchange for a paper tiger of a "booming" economy

>America and Britain ask for Germany to start showing the fruits of their labor and start paying back shekels with artificially low interest rates on them, even if slowly

>Have the audacity to demand more money

>Great Britain calls Germany on their bullshit

>America is nice enough to send what now days would be several billion dollars MORE on top of what they gave them previously, but tells Germany they'll cut them off so they need to get their shit together

>NSDAP Germany decides on an expertly Jewish scheme

>Declare the reichsmark and try to use it to pay off dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.104196

>>102523

what board do you think you are on.

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 No.103970 [Open thread]

In the future we're gonna put estrogen in the wombs with female babies and testosterone into the wombs of male babies. This will produce hyperfeminine breeding machines and hypermasculine worker machines.

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 No.103977

This will be mandatory in my private community.

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 No.104102

Will they be shaken a bit so they cannot comprehend their situation?

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 No.104112

>>103970

You know excess testosterone in the body just gets turned into estrogen, right?

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 No.104179

>>104112

The content of the post already suggests he(she?) knows nothing about this.

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 No.104117 [Open thread]

People on the left say capitalism requires endless growth, yet the populations of developed countries is decreasing. The leftists say that this bad for our economy and we need more people. What is "good" growth and is this different than simple population growth?

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