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Ya'll need Mises.

File: cd2b2b3e3b40c0a⋯.jpg (69.71 KB,960x960,1:1,human right.jpg)

 No.103879 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

what should i recommend 14yo girl to read to become an ancap and/or a virtuous person?

is atlas shrugged too hard to understand for person of that age?

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 No.105375

>>105373

Normalfags are cancer. Ignoring first principles and dumbing down arguments to petty empiricism only attracts human garbage to liberty. The inevitable result is Gary Johnson, the libertarian party, and libertine shitholes like Porcfest becoming the public face of the libertarianism. Because property rights are fundamentally undemocratic, anti-egalitarian ideals, it is self-defeating to advocate for them using tactics of mass appealing. Normalfags who can't appreciate first principles will never be libertarians; the only way to get them to call themselves such is to dilute the meaning of the phrase such that it no longer has anything to do with property rights. Trying to get human trash that can't appreciate first principles into libertarianism is a waste of energy-efficient that is better spent elsewhere. On the off-chance you succeed, all you have managed to do is subvert the ideology from within, strengthening the left-libertarian 5th columns. And a traitor from within is a hundred times as dangerous as the enemy at the gates.

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 No.105394

File: a4cbba0bf895e71⋯.jpg (11.54 KB,312x301,312:301,confederate_norway_flag_no….jpg)

>>105375

>Trying to get human trash that can't appreciate first principles into libertarianism is a waste of energy-efficient that is better spent elsewhere. On the off-chance you succeed, all you have managed to do is subvert the ideology from within, strengthening the left-libertarian 5th columns. And a traitor from within is a hundred times as dangerous as the enemy at the gates.

Then how do you suggest changing the views of the population? Surely you don't expect most normalfags to become ancap out of principles? How are we to create ancapistan without even being a sizeable minority of the population?

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 No.105395

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>105394

You don't. The natural order is fundamentally undemocratic, trying to achieve it through some leftist democratic revolution is not possible. The natural order, should it be restored at all, will be achieved through enclaves seceding from their respective states. Memetic propagandists will serve to make people aware of these ideas; those with the intelligence to appreciate the natural order whose interest is piqued will seek it out on their own.

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 No.105397

>>105375

>Normalfags are cancer

I would personally avoid making statements like that. It belies an attitude of disdain that libertarians need to get over.

It's not most people's fault that they were born into an unjust world where they're shoved through two decades of indoctrination camp as soon as they can understand language.

And on top of that, the kind of people who are inclined towards liberty also tend to be too busy having careers and families to faff about with politics in the first place.

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 No.105399

File: 43c9b559dc7077c⋯.jpg (19.7 KB,480x272,30:17,left wing memes right wing….jpg)

>>105397

But it's true. It might not be entirely their fault that they are cancer, but they are cancer nevertheless. Trying to cater to cancer results in the LP, Porcfest, C4SS, Reason magazine, or any of the other subversive, libertine shitholes that have taken the libertarian label. You do not seek out normalfags, except perhaps through memes. You do not make arguments on the normalfag's level, because that reduces your level of discourse to the normalfags level. Instead, you make sure the correct, a priori-based arguments are available to those people who ask for them in genuine curiosity, that they are legible, and you have a response ready to any further question they ask. This strategy will not yield a mass influx of converts, who rampage through your social circles and replace your customs with their own. Instead, it will attract a small but steady trickle of high quality, positively-selected converts over time.

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File: de7b7aeb4457683⋯.jpg (174.8 KB,1200x1200,1:1,Ludwig Von Mises.jpg)

 No.105339 [Open Thread]

I know that there already is a thread about this but it went a bit off-topic so I decided to start a new one. It looks like I'm not the only one interested in a new and better /liberty/ so I created >>>/mises/ (thanks to the anon that suggested the name), a board dedicated to the austro-libertarian discussion of politics, society, news, etc.

To those of you that are wondering what will be different to /liberty/:

>New sticky that explicitly defines it as austro-libertarian board, not just "anti-authoritarian" like the current BO did.

>Expanded reading list

>Added ID's

>Forced anonymity

>Added more custom flags and removed unnecessary ones

>Public action logs for more transparency

>Active BO so less spam, porn and off-topic stuff

>More openness to suggestions in general

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 No.105347

Bump

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 No.105356

>>105339

sounds good to me but I just really hope that you won't suddenly disappear like the last BO

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 No.105383

>>105339

Shill somewhere else faggot, the current board is fine.

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 No.105384

>>105383

Thanks for the bump retard

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 No.102877 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

What is in your opinion the best political system in the world (existing or theoretical)? Which rules, reforms and institutions come together to form the best political system?

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 No.104073

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 No.104077

>>104063

Like the other guy said, without the Civil Rights Act and other nonsense getting in the way of justice McDonald's would be culpable for every action taken by their pet niggers. Which brings us into the question as to why McDonald's would even want to Airbus in Somalians anyways. There's no Section 8 housing to stick them in, no one in respectable neighborhoods would voluntarily rent to a nigger, and even if they did the niggers couldn't afford the rent. Since whatever slum apartments you build for your niggers have to be far away from the civilized neighborhoods, and the roadowners won't allow someone who can't read the roadsigns to drive on their road, you're going to have to arrange transportation for them as well. To make sure they don't escape from the slum and start terrorizing the countryside, McDonald's is going to have to hire security as well. "Cheap" labor is only cheap when the taxpayer is subsidizing all of the implicit costs of dealing with cheap labor. Without that subsidy, there's nothing profitable in it.

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 No.105019

>>103965

> We've already established that there's no such thing as public access

If no such public access exists, then no one would be able to homestead the encircled land except Owner A.

> Excuse me sir, but we have decreed that this is a public thoroughfare and you must allow this individual to pass.

Ignoring your reduction ad absurdum about shooting dogs, where is the NAP violation? Where is the initiation of force?

> Owner A owns the route

He never legitimately owned it since he never claimed the encircled property. If he homesteaded the route after the encircled land becomes owned, then yes he would own it. But as it is in continuous and in current use by Owner B, Owner A cannot claim it until Owner A abandons it.

> This is the same principle under which a landlord may evict his tenants at any time, for any reason, from any motivation.

This is not even a relevant analogy. Tenants are bound to a contract with their landlord for use of a landlords property. No such contract exists (physical or implied) for someone seeking to claim that unowned encircled land.

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 No.105021

>>105019

>then no one would be able to homestead the encircled land except Owner A.

Then fine, let's say no one would be able to homestead it except owner A. I was never that attached to Block's argument anyways, if anything the idea that you can encircle something without homesteading it contradicts Hoppe's emborderment principle. So, we'll throw Block's exception out, and rule that Owner A has homesteaded the encircled land by virtue of encircling it, as that's what emborderment theory implies.

>not knowing about dogshooting

Lurkmoar.

>Where is the initiation of force?

PROPERTY BEING USED WITHOUT CONSENT YOU DOUBLENIGGER, THAT'S WHERE

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 No.105365

>>105021

>Then fine, let's say no one would be able to homestead it except owner A.

Now apply this to a cabal of property owners encircling a large tract of unowned land.

>Lurkmoar.

Not an argument.

>PROPERTY BEING USED WITHOUT CONSENT

Right-of-way and freedom-to-roam are long-established common law rights and you consented to them by contractually engaging in commerce with these societies (anarchic and polycentric societies I might add). You could ignore common law but may have to pay compensation or be ostracized by these societies.

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 No.101393 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

Why don't you faggots have a board tan?

>pics related from OC thread

FIX IT NOW

<inb4 muh snake girl

that's /leftypol/'s and not even a decent snake girl

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 No.104884

File: 50182708e99daf6⋯.png (232.41 KB,461x447,461:447,(You) don't belong here.png)

>>104880

You are the problem, fag.

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 No.104885

>>104850

Jeez, you and your sick fetishes, leftypol…

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 No.104940

>>104872

Heh, that's nice. I like her freckles.

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 No.105331

I love all of these designs. Let's be honest though. She should be wielding some kind of homemade rifle that breaks all the rules. I'm thinking printed or milled M4 with an unregistered short barrel, full auto fun mode, drum mag, ITAR restricted night vision setup, bayonet, silencer, etc. If it breaks a gun law, put it on that bitch. Alternatively, a simple, classic Barret works too.

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 No.105340

>>105331

>M4

>short barrel

Why would the efficiency of the free market replicate the stupid design decisions of the US Army?

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File: 4921d372e0ca086⋯.png (1.39 MB,1261x950,1261:950,drown commies.png)

 No.105281 [Open Thread]

Hey /liberty/

I have seen a couple of posters here complain about the current BO or rather the lack of a BO and thought about creating a /liberty2/, like /b2/ was the product of dissatisfied /b/ users. I know that the similar /holo/ board was created but I think basing the board on anime seems a bit counterproductive. Would there actually be people who want to switch to a Liberty 2.0 or are most of you satisfied with the current state of things?

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 No.105328

>>105292

>>105320

First of all, stop samefagging, it's really obvious and it's pathetic.

Second,

>the definition of derailing is being reminded about something

Nice logic you got there, but if that's derailing then almost everything is derailing. "Derailing" is when you steer the conversation away from the original topic into something completely unrelated:

>obstruct (a process) by diverting it from its intended course

I never did that. Now get off my back, you're obsessed, and you're annoying.

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 No.105330

>>105328

>First of all, stop samefagging, it's really obvious and it's pathetic.

I was phonefagging you nigger. Phonefagging is usually low-quality, but that's why I don't enable the flag on my phone. And it's not quite as bad as namefagging is.

>Nice logic you got there, but if that's derailing then almost everything is derailing. "Derailing" is when you steer the conversation away from the original topic into something completely unrelated:

Namefagging is derailing. Anybody who thinks it's not is a complete newfag and hasn't seen how boards become derailed when namefagging is a thing. It's very nature is derailing. There's a reason namefagging and derailment on all of 8chan are considered closely related. It's literally no different than ending everypost with "-H," except this time it's in big green letters. Namefagging is what redditors do. It's about reminding people that you are still present.

<you're obsessed

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 No.105332

File: 151b3aa1e159a0b⋯.gif (654.59 KB,480x270,16:9,holo-gif-7.gif)

>>105330

This is the second thread you're derailing with your weird obsession with me and my board. I didn't even post in here and you were already bitching about me. You're the problem here, not me.

>wants a horde of communists to come and shit all over /liberty/

<but ancaps promoting other ancap boards is wrong

lol, fuck off. You're such a hypocrite, I'm not going to help you derail the thread with your personal issues any further. I wish OP best of luck, I'm happy there are people taking initiative to get shit done and make a better board than this one, I will be glad to help in any way if it's required of me, but right now I'm not going to entertain this creepy redditor, it's the exact kind of bullshit you can expect from that toxic "community".

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 No.105333

>>105332

<This is the second thread you're derailing with your weird obsession with me and my board

>you namefag

>i point out you’re a namefag

<apparently I derailed the thread for pointing it out, but you didn’t even though you namefagged even when it’s clearly off-topic

>i mention you being a namefag as advice for the new /mises/ BO

>you throw a hissy fit

<apparently I derailed the thread by bringing it up when it’s on-topic, not you for throwing a hissy fit over it

Nice.

>wants a horde of communists to come and shit all over /liberty/

What?

>I'm not going to entertain this creepy redditor, it's the exact kind of bullshit you can expect from that toxic "community".

You talk like a complete redditor.

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 No.105337

>>105333

>i mention you being a namefag as advice for the new /mises/ BO

You didn't just "mention", you accused me of derailing threads: >>105292 , so you baited me into helping you derail this thread with your slander.

>wants a horde of communists to come and shit all over /liberty/

<I'm comfortable with the /liberty/ board and I'm not worried about leftists "invading" the board.

<What? What? What?

Don't feign ignorance, hypocrite: >>105253 , if you're okay with leftists invading the board, you have no right to complain about anyone derailing anything.

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File: 048138486805caf⋯.jpg (344.47 KB,1280x720,16:9,1522706319513.jpg)

 No.104889 [Open Thread]

You are cordially invited to have fun with us at >>>/holo/. It is a comfy new ancap/libertarian board with responsive and uncucked (anti-state, anti-left, pro-white) moderation.

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 No.104953

>>104927

good riddance

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 No.104960

>>104912

Ok, I get what you mean, what I planned when making the board was for Holo to be the board's mascot and a symbol of anarcho-capitalism. I couldn't believe we didn't meme such a based and iconic character earlier, so I decided to do it myself. Maybe it was wrong of me to start off so strong with Holo everywhere as it gives off the wrong impression that the board is only about anime, but it's really about ancap and off-topic things like anime so that people can also have a fun time and not be serious all the time. I could replace the images in the stickies with more informative images, but Holo being the mascot of the board is the one thing I won't compromise on, and having said that, you could totally ignore her and all the anime, I don't require anyone to care about that.

>>104914

Well my standards obviously can't get any lower then, because I don't care as long as you don't shill for open-borders or other SJW-tier fake libertarianism, that's really what I'm concerned about.

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 No.105076

File: 8aa3214a77b3574⋯.webm (2.6 MB,1280x720,16:9,holobread.webm)

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 No.105324

I just checked out your board OP. I have no idea who holo is or your obsession with this anime wolf girl. But I might give it a shot. I'm not entirely sure what tone you want for the board if it's serious or joking but there are a few threads that seem interesting. So yeah, I'll see how this goes.

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 No.105329

File: 3b01cfcee1f3636⋯.jpg (143.62 KB,1200x836,300:209,D0vu5sQUwAA-fvF.jpg)

>>105324

Thanks, the wolf girl is just the mascot, and it's as serious and unserious as you want it to be.

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 No.104261 [Open Thread]

Why is regulatory capture such a hard pill to swallow? Is it just too abstract? Do people who keep suggesting more and more regulations to solve certain problems understand the lobbying process, the incentives involved, and even if those can be overcome, how bureaucracies really function?

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 No.104269

People like to believe that there's a lever they can pull to make things better, to "fix" the problem. Most of them, even moderately pro-market types, don't truly understand how the market functions, so trusting "the market" to fix it, an abstract entity which they don't quite understand, gives them anxiety. Regardless of logical arguments (which are usually irrelevant when it comes to Normans), the idea of a benevolent agency making sure that only the good things happen and the bad things don't happen provides a certain kind of security. This becomes doubly true when one considers that nearly all Normans went to public school, where it was drilled into their heads that bureaucrats are selfless civil servants with your best interests in mind.

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 No.104375

If we're talking about regulatory capture would having competing regulating agencies in a market be better? It seems like a lot of these types of problems stem from a lack of competition.

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 No.104376

>>104375

In certain cases, competing regulatory agencies would be desirable, if consumers derived some value from it. An agency which certifies a firm to put certain labels on its product (e.g., "certified organic") would be mutually beneficial to the seller and buyer, so we can expect certification forms to compete with on the market. Current experience, however, suggests that quality-controlling regulatory agencies would not be competitive, and fall out of the market. Nearly all food providers in the market right now, even fast food joints, have a set of of internal regulations that they follow which are stricter than the FDA's. This implies that firms can compete on quality directly, ergo they would be no market for quality-based regulation.

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 No.105326

Learning about regulatory capture did push me more into libertarianism tbh.

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 No.103997 [Open Thread]

What is /liberty/'s thoughts on Sargon of Akkad, Richard Spencer, and their debate? What is /liberty/'s thoughts on the related video?

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 No.104282

>>103997

Why should I give a shit that some stormfag and "kekistani classical liberalist" had a bitch slap contest on google hangout? And wasn't this like a year ago? Why are we bringing this shit up now?

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 No.104284

>>104098

>>104250

A """crypto"""fascist pan-europeanist who wants to empower a new racial aristocracy to… stop degeneracy and stuff.

His politics, as is the case with most of the detritus that's come out of 4chan /pol/, isn't very coherent.

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 No.105009

>>103998

It’s sad because Dickie had some mildly pro /liberty/ views and even gave a good talk at the PFS. But this was before he got his twaty haircut and became a Worf for the MSM - a puppet to be brought out whenever the right needs spanking.

Soygon might be worse because he hangs in circles that are very familiar with fringe thinkers like Hoppe, but never acknowledges libertarianism. At least not that I know of.

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 No.105010

>>104276

The fact that you think having a healthy sex life is something wrong is a testament to just what an autist he is and the sort of people he appeals to.

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 No.105325

>>105009

It's weird since didn't he meet up with that one libertarian Polish politician?

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 No.104777 [Open Thread]

Redpill me on Zuckerberg's new kikecoin. Is this supposed to be some big alternative to bitcoin, except with government fuckery and central banks backing it?

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 No.104781

Yes. It is based on a "basket" of fiat currencies which makes it worse than the dollar because most fiat currencies are worse than the dollar.

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 No.104804

From what I've heard it has the backing of paypal and some credit card companies. That and it operates like company script rather than true crypto. It's basically an abortion of a currency.

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 No.104994

It is fiat money but now digitalized for maximum kikery.

I don't mind it though, it will help to get normies into crypto money. Once they get used to having their Libras it will be easy to have them use other cryptos. The moment the find out they can buy their porn or some other degenerate shit with that money but they can use other cryptos they will learn how to change and there we go.

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 No.105057

It's not really a cryptocurrency, the validators are all centrally controlled. Which makes it a frankenstein halfway between paypal and digitized fiat like other users mentioned.

Andreas Antonopoulos predicted this a few years ago how big entrenched institutions would try co-opt Bitcoin tech while disassociating itself from the interesting parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMEOKDVXlUo

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 No.105270

>>104781

It's not based on only currencies, it's going to be based on a basket of assets: currencies, stocks, bonds, etc

if it was just based on fiat currencies they would make it another stablecoin which is pointless because we have like 10 of those now and some of them are wildcat banks (like tether)

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 No.97045 [Open Thread]

question to ancaps

do you feel alienated?

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 No.105191

>>104462

I relate to this a lot. I live in a blue state so I saw the hypocrisy of the shitting on Bush then worshipping Obama despite the fact Obama continued a lot of Bush's foreign policy and managed to get an even higher kill count than I thought possible. I just can't stand hypocrites no matter what.

You speak the truth man. Do they realize the effects of their policies have on poor people or are they dumb enough to believe in them?

There was always something that felt false about the progressives. They claim to fight for the poor yet most of them are from middle class white families. Even the non-white ones still come from well off families. I know it's a petty criticism but it's always something that bugged me about them.

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 No.105193

>>104462

>the nazi larpers don't bother me because they admit they want to be violent but liberals and socialist lites make me infuriated because they act like they are mother teresa and they will pretend like they are the most compassionate humans beings on earth as they are reporting their neighbors to the police

QFT

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 No.105235

>>104567

jews are really a non factor in America tbh, so is everyone else when its really just black vs white as the main rivalry here. Jews are just sort of secondary group who gets the typical shitting on like everyone else. No different from Irish, Italian, or Polish immigrants ect. Theres things like some jews uncle muarry not being allowed into the all WASP golf course or country club but thats the worst of it here.

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 No.105237

File: 1b296914224e2db⋯.webm (3.32 MB,480x360,4:3,one person could be behin….webm)

>>105235

>jews are really a non factor in America tbh

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 No.105266

>>97048

Based.

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 No.104358 [Open Thread]

Greetings. Gentlemen after reading >>104292 it has come to my attention, that compared to the other corners of the political compass, we In the libertarian right, have taken a back seat, in terms of relevance in the culture war. While our memes are pretty good (except for the occasional boomer memes), and our arguments are both solid and morally consistent, we nether bring in the numbers, nor command the mutual respect/resentment, nor have the gravitas, that we truly deserve. that being said, all of this may not actually be a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.

One advantage that we do have, is that none of the other ideologies are paying much attention to us, stormfags are too focused on cultural Marxism, and Antifa (and seem to be under the impression that we are their allies, which for the time being, we can play along with till the time is right to betray them), while commies are too focused on bashing the fash, and trying to meme. They don't think we are a real threat, meaning the worst we'll ever get is the occasional child sex slave joke. Once a Ron Paul type runs for president, in one of the two main parties (which will probably happen 2024),we strike, making it known to the world that the 3rd largest ideology in america truly does have real political power. And with a fuck load of Buzzfeed articles, calling us the bane of humanity, we solidify ourselves as an ideology in ascendancy, like what the stormfags did with trump. Basically we should use our position as a 3rd wheel faction to pull a Blackbeard at Marineford, pardon my One Piece metaphor/reference(although, If /pol/tards can get away with Dragon Ball reference, what with their "hidden power levels", why not do the same?).

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 No.105196

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 No.105198

>>105196

Is that supposed to prove something? We need everyone in on this, I don't care if 90% of the movement is just hot sluts and their betacuck orbiters. The more talking heads we have spreading the word, the better.

>Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have

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 No.105210

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>>105198

>hey guys how do we build a respectable, intellectually formidable movement?

<just hire a bunch of thots with big tits to give speeches lol

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 No.105216

>>105210

Ironically, everyone knows the battle theme of Flash Gordon even if no one has seen the movie. Memes are so useful in the culture war for similar reasons- people like memes even if they don't understand a lick of the politics, and will meme things into reality for shits and giggles without understanding the consequences: see Boaty McBoatface.

I'm not saying libertarians are the only intelligent ones, there's plenty of intelligent people across the political spectra. I'm just saying the vast majority of normalfags could fuck off and society would continue to function with very minor fluctuations in the hands of that 20-30% of the ant colony with an inner voice. That's where the whole NPC meme comes from.

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 No.105217

>>105216

Put another way, I only want to share society with the people who watch T.V. and have to put in a mental effort to binge instead of being able to do so for hours without pause. Normalcattle spewing libertarian memes make it easier to find like-minded people. Get learned, yo'

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 No.105197 [Open Thread]

BO show yourself you nigger

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 No.105085 [Open Thread]

As far as I can see, the whole nazi whatever it is could be forbidden by a few lawsuits.

So far no one thought about it.

It's not that they favor the white race. They are not helpful. They act like niggers and Jews, just what they oppose. Yes, it is that bad.

Could this actually work? Are there others here that are interested?

Pic not entirely related.

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 No.105121

>>105119

Because transcending our limitations of our meat cage bodies sounds pretty based

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 No.105122

>>105121

Could you give some examples?

>transcending our limitations of our meat cage bodies

This sounds like improvements.

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 No.105129

>>105085

go back to >>>/reddit/ you fucking newfag, lurk moar or kill yourself

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 No.105136

>>105085

Just fuck off to 4reddit, you retard.

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 No.105148

>>105085

you arent entitled to be helped

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 No.102827 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

So far in the #YouTubePurge;

Banned-

YouKipper

The Great Order

Varg

Demonetised-

Martin Sellner

James Allsup

Steven Crowder

Red Ice TV

SinatraSays

Videos deleted-

Angelo John Gage

Gavin McInnes

Milo

Red Ice TV

Black Pigeon Speaks

Drunken Peasants

Press For Truth

J.F Gariepy

And many more

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Libertarians support 1984, as long as it is 1984 achieved through private methods, not public methods. They can't be taken seriously as they have no genuine interest in *positive freedom*, ie real freedom.

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 No.103746

>>103735

I'd rather have the possibility of small, alternative media than regulatory capture ensuring that those same giant tech companies are the only platforms in town >>103623 .

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 No.105072

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>>103623

> I use Facebook once a year now, I do not remember a single time Google violated my "rights"

Facebook allowed a third party consulting farm buy user information without the consent or even telling its users and was fined $5 Billion, has to now have regular privacy audits, and restructure their entire structure

https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/facebook-fined?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

As for google

>The European Commission is hitting Google with a fine of 1.49 billion euros (some $1.7 billion) for "abusive practices" in online advertising, saying the search and advertising giant broke the EU's antitrust rules and abused its market dominance by preventing or limiting its rivals from working with companies that had deals with Google.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/705106450/eu-fines-google-1-7-billion-over-abusive-online-ad-strategies

Also, Google has been caught red handed plotting on limiting the outright of certain figures they disagree with, specifically Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro who they refereed to as 'Nazis'

Heres a leaked email from Google employee Liam Hopkins

>“Today it is often 1 or 2 steps to nazis, if we understand that PragerU, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro et al are nazis using the dog whistles you mention in step 1. I can receive these recommendations regardless of the content of what I’m looking at, and I have recorded thousands of internet users sharing the same experience.”

And if you dont think thats bad enough, Google has outright stated they will work to manipulate data and abuse the awesome power they wield in order to influence the 2020 election

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 No.105074

>>105072

>Youtubes mass censorship of conservatives+libertarians

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/03/01/the-purge-youtube-mass-censors-conservatives-new-right-classical-liberals/

>twitter shadowbanned prominent conservatives and Republicans

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/43paqq/twitter-is-shadow-banning-prominent-republicans-like-the-rnc-chair-and-trump-jrs-spokesman

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/vice-investigation-finds-twitter-is-shadow-banning-prominent-conservatives/

https://www.rt.com/usa/434268-republicans-shadowban-twitter-search/

What do democratic politicians make of this censorship of right wingers? They not only praise it and want more, but they actually toy with the idea of putting penalities on companies that do NOT censor certain people

>Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) calls for more internet censorship/penalizing tech companies that dont ban people like Jones

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/22/17765664/ron-wyden-alex-jones-infowars-regulation-elections-privacy-cybersecurity-kara-swisher-podcast

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 No.105106

>>105074

>but they actually toy with the idea of putting penalities on companies that do NOT censor certain people

They've made the first amendment into a joke.

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 No.105125

>>105106

The cherry on top is that the courts ruled that twitter is a public forum and that Trump could not block people from his profile because of this. Ancaps are being delusional for just turning a blind eye to all of this

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 No.104587 [Open Thread]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-19/u-s-regulator-probing-crypto-exchange-bitmex-over-client-trades

>The months-long CFTC probe is focused on whether BitMEX broke rules by allowing Americans to trade on the platform, which isn’t registered with the agency, said one of the people who asked not to be named discussing the investigation, which hasn’t been made public. The regulator considers virtual currencies like Bitcoin to be commodities, and it has jurisdiction over futures and other derivatives based on them.

>The probe is ongoing and the regulator’s investigations often don’t lead to allegations of misconduct. The CFTC declined to comment.

This isn't going to end here.. They might not be able to bring them down just yet but their eventual plan is to get any foreign exchange to use KYC on all their clients and then implement something much more stringent than even KYC:

https://www.coindesk.com/beyond-kyc-global-regulators-appear-set-to-adopt-tough-new-rules-for-crypto-exchanges

>This would go beyond the basic “know your customer” (KYC) rules that bedevil many crypto users. In addition to verifying and keeping records of their own users’ identities, exchanges and other service providers would have to pass customer information to each other when transferring funds, just as banks are required to do. This is known in the U.S. as the “travel rule”.

What's the solution???? We need to start tweeting at developers to make decentralized exchanges.. We need a new satoshi.

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 No.105051

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It's funny because I think BitMex has blocked registration from American IPs for as long as I can remember.

Decentralized exchanges are a tough problem from a computer science perspective, though. I love the idea, but It seems most offerings make serious tradeoffs when it comes to performance/features of the exchange compared to centralized exchanges. BitMex has the famous "system overloaded" meme so I can't imagine how much worse it would be on a decentralized exchange.

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