No.102346
>be me
>be ancap
>keep arguing with normies "no dont be stupid anarcho capitalism is not neo feudalism"
>reads history
>discovers that feudalism is actually very based
>realizes that ancaps might as well be neo feudalists but thats actually a good thing
Anyone else or I just actually lost my mind?
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No.102347
>>102346
I think anyone that was an ancap for a while before reading Hoppe would have a similar experience.
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No.102352
>kings were just property owners who didn't know about the NAP
Now you're getting it anon.
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No.102381
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No.102382
>>102381
/monarchy/ is much more in favor of the absolutist monarchies of the 1700s, as opposed to the feudal aristocracies of the medieval era. That makes them a slightly better version of democrat as far as I’m concerned.
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No.102387
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No.102388
>>102382
Bullshit, here's /monarchy/'s census AFAIK :
- The Russiaboo guy.
- The absolute monarchist guy who cries whenever anyone even wonders about regicide.
- The Board Owner
- The fellow who made grace-chan and posts anime memes.
- The Luxembourg poster.
- The new burger who stumbles in every month and asks how a U.S. restoration would work.
- The new /liberty/ poster who stumbles in every month and faffs about monarchism being a good backup choice if ancap doesn't work.
- The new /leftypol/ poster who stumbles in every month and faffs about North Korea being a monarchy.
- The guy who has a hard-on for Joseph de Maistre
- The guy who has a hard-on for Hans Adam II and talks about 'monarcho-secessionism.'
- The guy who has a hard-on for Mussolini.
I'm really not sure that /monarchy/ is in favor of 1700s absolute monarchism or not.
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No.102391
Meh, feudalism and medievalism has more to do with post modernists socialists then ancapism.
Liberalism was created under a whole different set of values, as the individual in the center of the world and freedom.
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No.102400
>>102388
There are two Russiaboos, but yeah, that's essentially it.
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No.102402
>>102391
I wish I were as naive as you
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No.102424
>>102391
>teleports behind you
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No.102438
How in the fuck did all of you miss the part where rightfully self-owning human beings were born into slavery-by-another-name? That isn't very AN-cap, now is it? There are obvious and serious differences between NO KINGS + YES MONEY and YES KINGS + MAYBE MONEY. Maximizing the power of the State is implicit in Monarchy (though this is hardly unique as it is a trend in all governments) which therefore means Monarchy is entire incompatible with ANARCHY! Yes you've lost your fucking mind. Many of you have lost your fucking minds. It's /liberty/ not /cuckoldry/. FREEDOM and MONEY not SERVICE and NOBLEMEN
That being said, obviously old European traditions had a few gems here and there. The same can probably be said of all functioning societies since time immemorial. Those gems do not make slavery to a king and his men glorious or desirable.
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No.102448
>>102391
I have a hunch that this is Esoteric Entity.
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No.102462
>>102382
monarchy is simply feudalism that underwent a corporate concentration phase.
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No.102468
>>102382
Im pretty sure /monarchy/ thinks that the monarchs BTFOing the aristocracy was a recipe for disaster
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No.102469
>>102468
/monarchy/ has a diverse enough selection of posters and that you can't definitively say the board as a whole thinks one thing or the other.
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No.102470
>>102469
The line of thought on the last aristocracy thread is pretty one sided thou
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No.102492
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No.102499
>>102391
Post-modernism and socialism are not the same thing
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No.102508
>>102352
What if they did know but chose to not follow it because they are the property owners and have loyal well paid army defending them?
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No.102509
>>102438
>Have child
>rightfully sell my property as a slave
>slave owner rightfully breeds his property for more property
>this somehow violates the NAP
Slaves born from your property are rightfully yours just as a tree grown on your land is yours.
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No.102518
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No.102519
>>102509
Humans have agency. You can demand your slave not get pregnant and as long as you or your kin/property don't get her pregnant the contract isn't violated. But each new generation must be contracted.
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No.102523
>>102346
natsoc is the only way, anything else is set up to fail
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No.102524
>>102509
Children are not property.
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No.102525
>>102523
This. Neetsoc never got BTFO and Cuckler never killed himself.
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No.102532
>>102525
>go up against the world, stop marxism from taking over all of continental europe, save germany from a depression in record times
>some idiot 80 years later struggling with socially engineered belief systems calls your leader a cuck and says you got btfo
there were things wrong with national socialism, but you're far worse then any of them
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No.102534
>>102532
>stop marxism from taking over all of continental europe
Well, that worked, didn't it?
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No.102535
>>102532
Umm… no one cares Nordcuck, if you're trying to make the case for saving anyone, maybe you can do it without "Marxism for white people" and impuslive warmongering against other white people.
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No.102536
oh fuck you>>102346
>>realizes that ancaps might as well be neo feudalists but thats actually a good thing
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No.102538
>>102524
t. leftypol
There are property of the parents until they're 18 although the father can arrange a marriage for his daughter to a potential suitor at his whim
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No.102539
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No.102543
>>102532
He "saved" Germany from a depression the same way the federal reserve saves banks from failing. Germany would have collapsed under its own spending if it had been given about 2-4 years.
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No.102544
>>102532
<stop marxism from taking over all of continental europe
[LAUGHS IN MERKEL]
<save germany from a depression
Printing money while playing shell games with MEFO bills does not prevent a depression, it exacerbates it. The only reason the German economy didn't collapse is because Allied bombs did it first.
<struggling with socially engineered belief systems
>worships Magic Mustache Man and wears the biggest albatross in existence around his neck
Pots shouldn't call kettles niggers.
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No.102550
>be me
>browse reddit
>to scared to use normalf*gs
>normies will have to do
>make a shitty post on *
kill yourself OP
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No.102553
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>>102538
>There are property of the parents
They are their own property, parents are just the default guardians of children, not their owners. t's why abortion is a violation of the NAP.
>t. leftypol
You should look into a mirror
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No.102577
>>102543
It's not about spending, it's about resources.
Everyone spends under their ability to.
Of course a lolbertarian would compare Germany's economy to Rothchild's schemes.
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No.102578
>>102577
>It's not about spending, it's about resources.
By sheer accident, you've stumbled upon truth. Yes, resources and real wealth are the relevant metrics, not spending. And Uncle Adolph did not increase the resources at the Reich's disposal, nor did he increase the potential to exploit those resources, or otherwise increase the wealth of the nation. He just loaned himself a bunch of shekels to spend massive amounts on public works projects and other makework, which made the GDP numbers look very impressive but did nothing for real wealth. And the Reich paid for those domestic debts by looting newly-annexed territory and sending the spoils back home–for reasons I would hope are obvious, this is neither productive or sustainable.
>would compare Germany's economy to Rothchild's schemes.
It's funny that you say this, because the more I learn about the Reich's monetary system and your precious labor-backed currency, the more Jewish it seems to me. Fiat currency is retarded; green pieces of paper are worth nothing and will never be worth anything more than the ink and pulp required to manufacture them, and any system of fiat currency is doomed to inflation. But at least fiat money is theoretically based on something, whether you call it the productive capacity of the nation, or the federal government's ability to enforce the value, or whatever. The Reichsmark and Reich central bank didn't even have that. The kikes krauts played a literal shell game with their money. They constantly moved value from Reichsmarks to MEFO bills and back again, never telling everyone exactly what was where, to hide the degree to which they were in debt, and to hide the rampant moneyprinting they were using to finance their projects. Let me reiterate: the Third Reich's bank was more Jewish in its actions than today's Federal Reserve. "Muh labor-backed currency" is a 40 IQ meme that needs to die an immediate death.
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No.102579
>>102438
I have very, very bad news for you, friend.
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No.102599
>>102346
<realizes that ancaps might as well be neo feudalists
>Am I right or I just actually lost my mind?
Both.
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No.102603
>>102346
Except that feudalism was propped up by fee tail, which isn't AnCap in the least.
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No.102608
>>102468
SHUT THE FUCK UP, BOYAR
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No.104066
>>102532
>save Germany from a depression
>take on loans to pay off debt
>international bankers friction-welding their hands together - "we got 'em"
>invest everything into military expansion
>kill/conquer everyone you owe money to
I'm completely historically illiterate. How far off am I?
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No.104068
>>102518
Yeah, that thread just devolved into shitposting.
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No.104082
>>104066
<save Germany from a depression
Half-true. Weimar was a complete shithole and the Reich was less of a shithole. But the measures they took to build-up the Reich weren't sustainable, and the beginnings of collapse were beginning to show in the last half of the war as inflation rates started to go up. If Allied bombs hadn't done the jobs first, the Reich economy would have severely collapsed.
The rest of your points are mostly on-point, but you missed that the krauts didn't just take on loans to pay off debt, they printed money and played an inflationary shell game with multiple currencies to try and hide how much money they'd printed.
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No.104083
>>104066
>>104082
When Hitler took power a recovery was already underway and unemployment was decreasing. A restoration of normality could have happened under any government.
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No.104093
Oh hey, this thread is still around. I was about to respond to
>>102577
>>104066
But
>>102578
>>104082
Beat me to it again with a much "better" thought-out response along very similar lines.
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No.104094
>>104066
It was more like
>Germany is coming out of depression on its own
>Take over
>Artificially speed the process up in true Keynesian fashion before Keynes was a thing by investing at the mid-point production instead of in R&D
>Economy looks great on the surface but is a giant spending bubble about to collapse
>Don't even have as good of cars as the Americans who fuck around
>Take on loans to fund projects
>International bankers won't even fucking invest in your economy because they can see your Jewish scheme from a mile away
>Beg America and Great Britain for loans
>America and Great Britain have an active interest in seeing the German economy restored and getting it back on its feet
>They send what would now days be tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars against their better judgement
>NSDAP friction-welds their hands together - "we got 'em"
>Invest nonstop into public makework projects that produce zero real wealth
>Nationalize businesses and kill what was a recovering local economy in exchange for a paper tiger of a "booming" economy
>America and Britain ask for Germany to start showing the fruits of their labor and start paying back shekels with artificially low interest rates on them, even if slowly
>Have the audacity to demand more money
>Great Britain calls Germany on their bullshit
>America is nice enough to send what now days would be several billion dollars MORE on top of what they gave them previously, but tells Germany they'll cut them off so they need to get their shit together
>NSDAP Germany decides on an expertly Jewish scheme
>Declare the reichsmark and try to use it to pay off debts
>"No bro, that's not real currency. Now seriously, start paying us back."
>Germany shits the bed and REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs as loud as they can
>Invest almost everything into military expansion
>France decides enough's fucking enough while Britain and US are sweating bullets
>Germany attempts to kill/conquer everyone they owe money to
>Can't even get to most of those nations in question
>Refuse several peace offerings and chances to surrender and retain Germany's dignity long after it's clear there's no chances of winning the war
>Let the country get raped by the Russians instead
t. Historically illiterate Burger who's collected bits and pieces of data over the years and pieced together a ragtag collection of what probably happened.
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No.104196
>>102523
what board do you think you are on.
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