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IN CASE 8CHAN IS DOWN: http://txti.es/monarchy FOR NEWS ABOUT WHERE TO REGROUP

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 No.1[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Welcome to /monarchy/. I'm editing this top post in order to condense things. This is now the only sticky and a general meta thread. There has been no change in BO, I'm just trying to clean things up a bit more. I may delete out posts in this thread just because I would like keeping the >>1 post for tradition's sake.

Rules: https://8ch.net/monarchy/charter.html

About/Links: https://8ch.net/monarchy/about.html

More specifically, if there is a new BO or volunteer of /monarchy/, it's announced here. If there is a change to the rules, it is promulgated here. This is also a thread I'll use to be a little less aloof and talk about minor and meta stuff: general feedback, complaining about troll threads, accepting submissions for flags, banners, moderation, and rules, etc.. A court, if you will.

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 No.8861

Cloudflare said it would reduce its service by 12:00 AM Sunday, Pacific Time (PT). Dropbox can hold up to 2gb free.

https://www.dropbox.com/

I will start packing up the bags, too. I already have folders of content.

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 No.13[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Can we get a Monarchist reading list?

I'll start with some:
Dante's De Monarchia
De Maistre's The Generative Principle of Political Constitutions
Filmer's Patriarcha
Kuehnelt-Leddihn's Liberty or Equality
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 No.8876

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 No.8917[Reply]

One of the main problems on this earth are European and the other shitty countries with their ass kissing title holders and assaristocracy. like Lord Buttfuck-a-Lot or Countess Rimmin Asses. Go back 1000 years in Europe and find one lifespan where some country was not attacking another. It those fucking people– pedophiles the whole lot of them

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 No.8333[Reply]

Monarchs are basically dictators who believe their power comes from God; I find most kings and queens quite hypocritical because they usually have the best security force protecting them 24/7. I don't think monarchs actually believe their own bullshit because if they did they would trust Gods to protect them.

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 No.8847

Atheists deserve the death penalty, full stop, without trial. No you can't change my mind. Stake burnings and crucifixions must come back

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 No.8889

>>8847

But aren't stake burnings primarily for witches and crucifictions for christians? Would you like to go to Indonesia then?

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 No.8890

>>8353

everyone who goes to hell goes there on his own accord

there is no one in hell who is not there willingly

if you make a mistake, you can confess it. if you willingly and knowingly persist in sinning, then you go to hell on your own accords

>>8847

it is true that in the past atheism used to be under a death sentence, but we will have to work it out in the future to see whether that will ever be appropiate again

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 No.8913

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I haven't been that religious myself lately, and I think most monarchs never actually believed in one (fucking their own siblings was just a method to keep all of the inheritance for themselves, and away "from the mutts").

Considering that the Church is responsible for more human atrocities than anything China did in the past 100 years is proof enough.

I have 3 theorems how it all works:

1. They never actually believed in one, but just used it to justify doing basically anything just to get "the commoners" off of their backs (like using alcohol as an excuse to cheat on your wife, instead they say that "god told them to do it").

2. They're just as dumb (if not dumber with all of the inbreeding) as the people they forsake because they're the puppets of the Church. The Church was always the true European Ruler since they made all art and science illegal unless you pledge your knowledge to them (like Soviet Thought Police). 700 Years of that is why Martin Luther's 95 reasons, and the French Revolution post-terror, are still valid.

3. There was never truly a monarchy without sin since the planet existed. If you can name one kingdom/nation that didn't kill/pillage/rape anyone just because, I'll give you 2 dollars. For thousands of years, we believed that black and brown people were beneath us just because they're willing to work harder for some food (while we kept watching and calling them animals whose only existence is to satisfy our own materialistic needs, even if they weren't such a sinless people themselves). That's why I value individuality in people who think for themselves what is wrong and what isn't.

In short, there was never religion at play with kings and queens, it was all just another Game of Thrones for absolute control over the commoners and their own selfish needs.

As the old saying goes:

"Being in charge is better than being a bitch who keeps his mouth shut and does what he's told."

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 No.8916

>>8333

Well it's not like it would be wrong for them to be hypocrites, since right and morality is just the fictitious personal preferences of a bunch of cell clusters on a tiny rock in space.

Christians get killed in the Bible, no one who believes it would think that they're immuned from all earthly dangers and need not take any precautions, you genuine normalfag

>>8913

>Considering that the Church is responsible for more human atrocities

>This meme again

Even if that were true, and even if there wasn't more nuance to it then you make out, it wouldn't matter since those "atrocities" are just things you dislike.

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 No.8915[Reply]

The history of /monarchy/ is now compiled.

/monarchy/ currently is on 8chan.moe.

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 No.2501[Reply]

Let's talk about how "great" democracy is.

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 No.2528

>>2522

>implying politics are taught at school in any meaningful amount and aren't just literal propaganda

>implying the common pleb cares about politics enough to follow daily events and dig info

>implying he won't only have a very cursory knowledge given to him by the MSM

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 No.2535

>>2506

This doesn't disprove the quote.

Democracy operates like any other despot or dictator might rule it. Your statement makes democracy look worse because the rule of an assembly or an anonymous group of people lacks visibility and responsibility. For example, everyone might know the name and appearance of Queen Elizabeth II, but does everyone memorize or remember all the members of parliament?

>not in favor of democracy

Eh, you get the point. Despite your post not favoring democracy, it still rings true that most governments will find a way to use their authority without the people's consent. The people's consent is often treated like an obstacle course in those governments.

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 No.2543

>>2528

>>implying the common pleb cares about politics enough to follow daily events and dig info

Indeed, The vast majority of population's politics boil down to "I want things to be good, and not bad, have money and not be poor"

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 No.2544

>>2543

The nature of politics is self-interest and conceit. It's why we need to separate the political animals from their thirst for authority and power, aka the seed of democracy we know as totalitarianism.

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 No.8914

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I think this classic video can sum it all up…

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 No.8877[Reply]

Hot /monarch/ princes and princesses

Post them and which kingdom they're from.

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 No.8887

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Sheikha Bodour bint Sultan is pretty qt. She's from the house of Qasimi.

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 No.8911

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Princess Alexandra of Luxembourg (born 16 February 1991) is the fourth child and only daughter of Grand Duke Henri and Grand Duchess Maria Teresa.

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 No.8912

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Queen Jetsun Pema (born 4 June 1990) is the Queen consort (literally meaning "Dragon Queen") of Bhutan, as the wife of King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck.

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 No.422[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post ITT every time you visit /monarchy/, so that we can generate more activity on this board.

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 No.8904

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 No.8907

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 No.8908

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Why do republicans always look so dead inside?

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 No.8909

come at me

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 No.8910

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 No.6331[Reply]

Are there any legit and active monarchist movements who want to establish absolute/feudal monarchies?

Preferably intending to replace the current cuck royal families, as they have bent their knees to the Jew, which is the absolute opposite of a strong monarch appointed by God.

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 No.8823

>>6602

The monarchist move on Brazil is rising very steadly. It's not enough for a referendum or whatever, but people are starting to disregard the Republic and conservative sect are starting to vouch for the return of the monarchy.

Only issue is that the are still vouching for a constitutional monarchy, but hey, better than republic right?

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 No.8851

>>6340

Brazil's monarchy was always constitutional.

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 No.8867

>>6331

>Are there any legit and active monarchist movements who want to establish absolute/feudal monarchies?

No, monarchy is a thing of the past.

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 No.8881

>>8851

Did not know Brazil had a monarchy.

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 No.8906

>>6423

Remove the roach and we'll talk.

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 No.8899[Reply]

hoppe-sama isn't working, so we had to move.

/monarchy/ is currently at 8moe.

https://8chan.moe/monarchy/catalog.html

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 No.8902

>>8899

Is this just an archive bunker?

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 No.8905

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 No.8240[Reply]

My boy did absolutely nothing wrong.

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 No.8900

>>8240

This

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 No.8901

As Ryan Faulk noted much of the killing was done by Negroes.

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 No.8898[Reply]

If anyone is wondering where everyone went.

https://hoppe-sama.xyz/monarchy/catalog.html

This is our promised land, and a royal haven for all the king's people. A paradisr under the leadership of Hoppe.

/monarchy/, /liberty/, /fascist/, a grand triumvirate.

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 No.8447[Reply]

How would the political map of the monarchist Europe look like? Would it remain the same? Would the borders be based the de jure claims of past kingdoms/principalities/empires or would they be drawn between the religious divisions? How would the ethnic makeup of the continent come into the picture? Post your concepts and maybe explain it if you want to.

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 No.8642

>>8554

I sent you the friend request.

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 No.8668

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>>8447

Just take a hammer and shatter it into a million pieces.

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 No.8669

>>8668

Baste and hammerpilled.

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 No.8672

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>>8668

>DDR

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 No.8896

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It does not matter how the kingdoms of Europe look, what matters is whether they bow to the rightful Caesar

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 No.7968[Reply]

Do so many monarchs end up endorsing liberalism (European meaning of the word, not American) and liberty to the point of cucking themselves because they get exhausted? I mean exhausted in the sense of, "I HATE this job, is there any way I can reduce my workload in any way possible?"

Pedro II is the ideal example that I'm sure a lot of you might be thinking of by this point in the post, but I also mean something much more subtle than that. It seems to be what happened to the British monarchy. They kept delegating more and more of their job not because of some ideological political stance, but because they already had so many other things to do and would just rather not be bothered with them–especially if they're just going to get criticized for any little thing. Until now it got to the point where they just do the ceremonial, and even that's fucking exhausting because even that is under a goddam microscope of analysis and you end up getting someone like Prince William. The Spanish monarchy seems to have undergone this process incredibly quickly.

Did this process not happen as vigorously in the past or in poorer countries today because media, the economy, and society as a whole was/is so much simpler?

Why are so many modern monarchs cucks?

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 No.8883

>>8740

Don't buy into the "Absolute Monarchy" meme, even the most "absolute" of them ruled on plenty of decentralized lands, had many balance checks to keep them from doing crap and delegated much of their works to ministers.

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 No.8884

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>>8883

It's not a question about absolutism, but monarchy. You anons keep getting assmad at monarchists that actually have some ideal of monarchy (rule of one) in their heart apart from aristocracy (rule of few).

Absolute comes from the notion of 'absolved' from Roman law and the ascribed 'absolute monarchy' meme is usually just a jab at monarchy conceptually, that one man should rule, not the royalist argument of the best man and general circumstances where he should be 'absolved'–absolute–where the law cannot measure.

Royal constitutionalists are always butthurt because they don't have a heart for monarchy. They like democracy, aristocracy, and monarchy. That is the heart of constitutionalism, but often confused for legal monarchy–the spirit of this institution is mixing all three rather than making monarchical arguments. Imo, the royal constitutionalists usually go towards democratic/aristocratic talking points, like muh check your balance (implying, again, mixed branches of all three, not specifically monarchy).

What matters to the 'absolutist' is that the monarchy is the sovereign power and central to the body-politic. A political body has a center, this 'decentralization' business is pretty daft talk.

It speaks for itself how upset these people are over the notion of monarchy, rule of one, like any other normalfag these days.

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 No.8885

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>>7968

>Why are so many modern monarchs cucks?

Royals are a product of their constitutional system and are just doing their job. People don't respect them because they don't see them as monarchs. Anons could blame on it "absolutism" all they'd like, but that bird was out the window long ago and can't be blamed for every mishap you see with the royal governments today.

Feudalism couldn't prevent what you see today. Putting the nobles or wealthy in these shoes today wouldn't "uncuck" the royals. It doesn't even involve the royals–all you anons are doing is focusing on the nobility and trying to sidestep royalty… that's what they do today. Seeing as how the whole soil is corrupt, it would probably be the same.

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 No.8886

>>8885

To make the point clear: the problems we see today aren't only inside the government, and 'decentralization' wouldn't resolve it only–because the powers that be clearly aren't in the government only. Revamping that political structure as a throwback to Medieval times would only shift the cards a little, but it wouldn't swap a new deck.

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 No.8895

>>8709

and that is the authroity the pope rightly helds

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 No.8724[Reply]

As technology advances at a faster and faster rate, and the "singularity" approaches, as genetic engineering becomes more common, how will /monarchy/ make due with these rapid changes, how would a monarch prevent the coming tide of accelerationsim nd suppress the capitalistic cyber-dystopias like in bladerunner etc?

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 No.8759

>>8758

> Virtually every top-level decision making body in the EU is filled with people who are multiple stages removed from the people. The reason I disagree with it being called democratic is because of its structure

Yeah, and I'm saying those kinds of structures aren't undemocratic, but an inevitable product of democracy. All democracies will quickly end up with entrenched, unelected bureaucracies wielding large amounts of power. If you adopt a very strict definition of democracy, in which any decision not taken by "the people" isn't democratic, then you might be able to say such things as "the EU is undemocratic," or "the Deep State is undemocratic." But if you continue down this path, you are forced to conclude that nearly every aspect of democracy is undemocratic. Since calling most of a democracy's apparatus undemocratic seems counter-intuitive to me, I'd rather be a little less denotative with the definition.

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 No.8760

>>8759

>Yeah, and I'm saying those kinds of structures aren't undemocratic

Yes, they are, regarding how the average person uses the term.

>All democracies will quickly end up with entrenched, unelected bureaucracies wielding large amounts of power.

You're broadening the scope. All governments will inevitably have a lot of unelected personnel, but I specified that I'm talking about the top levels. I'm not talking about the equivalent of a government agency or bureau, I'm talking about the equivalent of a congress or parliament, whose members are democratically elected in basically every first world country today, so your claim that this is the rapid and inevitable fate of any system with democracy is silly.

To put it into context, the if the US worked the way the EU did, instead of a president we'd have a council made of state governors and a commission who's members are appointed by the council of governors. Meanwhile, all senators would be appointed by the state governments (which we did used to do, but we stopped because it wasn't a good way for the senate to work), and neither the senate nor the house of representatives would actually be able to propose any legislation, because instead only the commission would be able to do that. That doesn't even fully encapsulate it, though, because in the US all state governors are directly elected, while in Europe plenty of countries are parliamentary, meaning their executive is appointed by their legislature, resulting in the commission having two fucking political bodies between them and the body politic.

You can call that democratic if you want, but all that will mean is that the word has no value here, and a different one will be needed for the subject.

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 No.8761

>>8760

Real democracy has never been tried.

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 No.8763

>>8761

In Athens it has but elsewhere, no

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 No.8894

there is no reason to halt technological advancement

tradition moves with the advancement of technology

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