No.6907 [Last50 Posts]
American imperialists took away the power of my blessed monarch, the emperor of Japan.
We Japanese will rise again. Our rightful clay will be returned to us plus more.
Japanese Empire thread
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No.6910
>>6907
America, if you can count her as an Empire, is the most pathetic Empire in history. Constantly fighting wars with no gain except for a few Jews and good goyim. Also the age of imperial wars are over because nukes.
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No.6913
>>6910
That just means that imperial wars have to take new forms. America is the world's leader in hybrid warfare for a reason. Notice also how they neglect their regular army and spend all their money on SOCOM. America is a wildly successful empire if you count all her vassals.
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No.6917
>>6910
>America
>An empire
I hate how flexible the term is these days. I hate to think of the US as grand as an empire when – as you said – they don't even take the laurels of victory or make emperors.
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No.6965
>>6907
>American imperialists took away the power of my blessed monarch, the emperor of Japan.
Should have thought about that before you went crashing planes into hawaii you slant eyed mongoloid.
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No.6974
>>6965
They're more Yellow than you are White, Amerimutt.
Also Amerimutts committed acts of war against Japan before Pearl Harbor.
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No.6984
>>6974
Yellow is the color of cowardice. The Japanese can blow it out their ass.
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No.6993
>>6917
America is an Empire. Just a Financial Empire, not a conventional empire
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No.6997
>>6907
What do you think of Nippon Kaigi?
From what I've heard (without my Nipponese being anywhere close to good enough to read their literature) they seem to be the strongest monarchist force in any developed nation.
Some of their goals:
>"A beautiful traditional sovereignty for Japan's future" (美しい伝統の国柄を明日の日本へ): Fostering a sense of Japanese unity and social stability, based around the Imperial Household and shared history, culture and traditions of the Japanese people.
>"A new constitution appropriate for the new era" (新しい時代にふさわしい新憲法を): Restoring national defense rights, rectifying the unbalance of rights and obligations, strengthening the emphasis on the family system, and loosening the separation of religion and state
>"Creating education that fosters a sense of Japanese identity" (日本の感性をはぐくむ教育の創造を): Addressing various problems arising in the Japanese educational system (bullying, prostitution, etc.) and instituting respect for the national flag and anthem, and for national history, culture and traditions (in the process abandoning "gender-free" education and critical views of Japanese history).
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No.7015
>>6997
They are better that the majority, but they have some hints of neoconservatism in them, so I am worried that they will not go trough everything. But this comes from looking at western neocons, I know that Japanese society is very different
Their Nippon Kaigi schools are great, tho. I would love to do something similar, elite education alongside traditionalism. I would do a rural version of those too
>>6910
They are just trying too hard to be Rome, kiling local kingdoms and forcing everyone into democracy. They will find themselves on the same situation, invaded, their allied betraying them and everyone scrambling to rip a piece from their screaming body
>>6917
>>6993
They call it NeoImperialism for a reason. Is imperialism for a new age, the age of merchants
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No.7019
>>7015
>>6907
>imperialists whining about imperialism
Why should anyone care about your empire verse our empire? Call it neo-imperialism. If that is the case with you folks, this is how it's going to be. Nobody is stopping the Japanese from having another restoration and seeing how the Emperor is still a revered figure and incredible source of honor despite what the Japanese constitution says. It should be apparent that the Emperor is Japan.
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No.7024
I have said many negative things about aristocracy. Many people on this board claim to be an aristocrat. What nobody seems to understand is that the aristocratic soul does what many men are incapable of doing. They praise elections and the ballot box. They want the many to coalesce and solve their problems.
The truth is that it takes the noble few to overcome the many. The vast majority of people are cowards. Only a few will sacrifice themselves for the Emperor. Forget these posers. If you are still stuck in the mindset that it takes the majority's will to achieve change rather than a few courageous men, you will not achieve much.
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No.7048
>>7024
I completely agree. The world needs courageous men who are willing to take the risk of putting themselves out there and doing what's right. One of these heroes is worth thousands of NPC mobs.
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No.7117
To the health of Emperor Naruhito!
Banzai! Banzai! Banzai!
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No.7123
>>6984
You sound like a homo
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No.7124
>>7019
Your chief export is feminism and Niggers in film/television.
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No.7126
>>7117
Welcome to the "Rei"wa era.
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No.7140
>>6907
>American imperialists took away the power of my blessed monarch
Just on a formal, constitutional level.
The Imperial family hasn't been wielding the full extent of its power since the end of Heian period. Oligarchies between land owners, clans, warriors and aristocrats have much more clout than the Emperor for the most of Japanese history, in many cases they rule the Japanese people directly while pretending to govern on behalf of the Emperor. In recent history, this is evident in the short period before WWII where the incumbent Emperor warned the government not to wage a war against the US, but the whole country did it anyway since the businessmen were eager to produce war machines and the military didn't want to miss the opportunity of taking the whole Asia Pacific as the world was distracted by the European WWII theater.
On the other hand, that lack of power explains why the Imperial Family still manages to survive today. Why bother killing a family full of public figure that has no power other than the superficial respect from the commoners?
That being said, it is still generally undesirable for a country to interfere in another country's internal affairs. Europeans signed the Westphalian Peace treaties after a 30-years war where people forcing their values onto another which only resulted in millions of death.
>>6997
I wouldn't take politician words at face value, especially East Asian ones. Many of them outright lies, and some of their lies are so ridiculous that a mentally healthy person must be willingly ignorant to see it (And unfortunately, that's the case with the majority of the Japanese population, they didn't even know what happened in WWII other than the nukes). Take an example, the Japanese government promised to make Okinawa a "telecommunication center of the East Asia", never mind that they didn't do much other than providing internet cables and services that still far worse than Tokyo. That precedent, out of many made me think that Nippon Kaigi isn't all what it displays itself to be.
>Addressing various problems arising in the Japanese educational system (bullying
Yet bullying has always been a weapon for teachers and students to impose moral order by weakening kids that are out of line, starting from mandatory schooling system in the Meiji Rrestoration. Remember the 「出る釘は打たれる」? Some of the primary targets for bullying in Japanese schools are effeminate (as in weak) boys and homosexuals. Unless the organization aims to restore pre-Meiji Restoration Japanese values, I still don't see why they address this bullying "problem".
Seeing that Shinzo Abe is a member of Nippon Kaigi, and how he managed to prolong his term, I think he simply intends to solidify the power of the aristocrats/elites and businessmen permanently, preventing slow hostile takeover of politicians that are intending to promote foreign interests before Japanese ones (look up the records of Japanese transsexual politicians and the policies they managed to apply in Tokyo for a reference). But don't mistake this nationalism with monarchism.
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No.7141
>>7140
small edits
>Why bother killing a family full of public figure that has no power other than the superficial respect from the commoners?
To elaborate more on why this matters, the East Asian equivalent of "Divine Right of Rule" or 「天命」 is different from the European one since it allows rebels to topple incompetent and corrupt rulers, and successful rebels are automatically granted the right to rule. All East Asian societies adopted this concept but Japanese society is different, since in some periods, the rulers are not the Emperor but either land owners, aristocrats or warriors, hence the Sengoku /Warring States period.
>I think he simply intends to …
use the organization as a means to
>solidify the power of the aristocrats/elites and businessmen
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No.7142
>>7140
>On the other hand, that lack of power explains why the Imperial Family still manages to survive today. Why bother killing a family full of public figure that has no power other than the superficial respect from the commoners?
That would be convincing, but nevertheless there are those who want to demolish the United Kingdom, despite saying the Queen has no power, because they want to formally make away with the monarchy. This is a too narrow view on the problem. Sure, if you're an obstacle to power, they will rid of you, but if you're also worthless and weak – they will discard you. The nature of power is not one or the other. They probably would have gotten rid of the Imperial Family if they were meaningless and only superficial to the Japanese people, but because the Emperor was such a rock of stability and unity – it was a bad idea. It's easy to suggest a powerless monarch doesn't get removed – but that a powerful one does – because it is more depending on circumstances. The removal of monarchies is indiscriminate in the age of ideologies seeing as many seek to dismantle it regardless.
>To elaborate more on why this matters, the East Asian equivalent of "Divine Right of Rule" or 「天命」 is different from the European one since it allows rebels to topple incompetent and corrupt rulers, and successful rebels are automatically granted the right to rule. All East Asian societies adopted this concept but Japanese society is different, since in some periods, the rulers are not the Emperor but either land owners, aristocrats or warriors, hence the Sengoku /Warring States period.
People exaggerate the Mandate of Heaven doctrine as a green light for removing monarchs. What do emperors do when they takeover? Of course, they appeal to the Mandate of Heaven too for their succession. I doubt they promote this doctrine upon their accession.
>solidify the power of the aristocrats/elites and businessmen
Power is a dynamic instrument. Nobody believes in a stagnant power that remains in one hand forever, yes. However, it is also dangerous for monarchies to blur the line between "de facto" and "de jure" monarchy. As I said earlier, a weak monarch is also the monarch who gets tossed aside. It is assumed that power will gracefully return whether 'de jure' or 'de facto' when the time arrives.
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No.7152
>>7123
I'm a homo because I don't stand for foreigners killing my own people on my own soil? Okay, kiddo.
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No.7159
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No.7169
>>7152
You sound like a massive homo
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No.7175
>>7169
You sound like an animecuck
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No.7202
>>6907
Your emperor should've killed himself, yet he surrendered your people to the Americans so he can continue living
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No.7203
>>7202
Only cowards like Hitler kill themselves.
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No.7204
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No.7207
>>7204
Did I stutter? A coward is a coward.
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No.7208
>>7207
Too bad he violated the tradition of the people he was meant to lead thus making him even more cowardly.
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No.7417
>>7175
You sound like a BIG FAG lol
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No.7423
>>7024
Well, you're half-right.
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No.7451
>Muh Boogers
Every fucking time
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No.7452
Tbh I'm proud to be an American for at least I know we're gonna accelerate the world into a post-nuclear wasteland because I'm frankly sick of people making me feel like shit for being born here where I had no control over such things
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No.7454
>>7452
this but unironically
also the world would probably be much worse off if a cuck nation like say England or Germany were still the world power.
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No.7456
>>7454
Tbh I think you're on to something
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No.7460
Fuck n*p subhumans
Two nukes was not enough
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No.7466
>>7454
>Murica has nothing to do with the state of the West
Whatever you say Amerifat. Your ilk chose to oppose Hitler and the Japs instead of staying where you are.
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No.7468
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No.7469
>>7466
Pearl Harbor. Americans were largely pro-German until Japan attacked us first.
The state of the west is Japan's fault.
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No.7470
>>7469
FDR used embargos and other pressure tactics to maneuver the Japs into attacking Pearl Harbor, because he was looking for an excuse to enter the war. Sure, the nips aren't exactly blameless for taking the bait, but neither is the US leadership.
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No.7474
>>7469
>MURICA DIDNU NUFFIN
Amerifats where already imperialists in the Far East. Let alone the embargos on Japan.
No, Murica already engaged in acts of war on Japan.
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No.7484
>>7474
No one is saying America is blameless. I am saying that we did a better job than you would have.
Imperialism is a good thing, embargos are not acts of war, and the Japanese are a bunch of degenerates whose cartoons promote pornography, look like shit, and stole jobs from western animators.
I hope the coming Monarch culls all of you weebs.
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No.7486
>>7484
If Emperor Naruhito remilitarizes Japan and institutes a draft or mandatory service, I can almost guarantee that weebism would die out within a generation.
End Cultural Weebism
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No.7489
>>7484
>I am saying that we did a better job than you would have.
>White countries around the world are filled with immigrants
>Give rise to ISIS who terrorize indigenous populations in the ME
>Aiding Saudi Arabia and other Wahabbists
>Spread of feminism and acceptance of miscegenation
>embargos are not acts of war
Nobody who studied this subject isn't a shill would agree with this.
>and the Japanese are a bunch of degenerates whose cartoons promote pornography, look like shit, and stole jobs from western animators.
>Murica had nothing to do with modern Japan even though it's a puppet state for Amerifats
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No.7504
>>7484
>>7486
Porn is a big part of Japanese culture, it was used as a medium for sexual education to young married couples. Look up shunga.
>look like shit
Go watch spongebob again and tell me how Burgers are any superior to Japs.
>Imperialism is a good thing
Elaborate.
>embargos are not acts of war
You may argue that it isn't, but it is still an aggressive move, with the consequences of draining the lifeblood of a nation.
Taunting a tipsy soldier isn't an act of war, but surely blood will be shed.
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No.7505
>>7504
Thats why you gotta pray the paganism away
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No.7506
>>7505
>Thats why you gotta pray the paganism away
And eliminating Shinto, depriving the Japanese Imperial Family their Divine right to lead the Japanese people?
And denying Japan their culture?
You universalist Christians deserve to be crucified right beside your Jewish god.
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No.7507
>>7486
>End Cultural Weebism
<Blaming a foreign culture for your own people's misbehavior
<Not realizing that this happens exactly because the same people lack any culture in the first place, and end up emulating other culture
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you,
A whiny, selfish, irresponsible Burger.
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No.7509
>>7468
Fuck off cuntnigger with your twitter-tier response.
>>7484
Nigger show me one American cartoon that looks better than anime of the same time.
>>7504
Neither of those positions look enjoyable.
Not like I'd know what positions are enjoyable though.
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No.7510
>>7509
>show me one American cartoon that looks better than anime of the same time
:^)
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No.7517
>>7489
>and absolutely NONE of this would have happened if England stayed the world power
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No.7518
>>7506
Converting Japan to Christianity wouldn't remove the Emperor's divine right to rule, it would just purge all the gays, traps, and porn addicts.
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No.7521
>>7518
>divine right to rule
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No.7522
>>7506
I'm not sure Shinto is necessarily incompatible with Christianity
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No.7542
>>7518
>>7522
>I'm not sure Shinto is necessarily incompatible with Christianity
>Converting Japan to Christianity wouldn't remove the Emperor's divine right to rule
But the fact is the Imperial Family claims its legitimacy from a Sun Goddess, with blessings from hundreds, possibly thousands of other lesser gods. Converting Japanese to Christianity will make the Imperial Family claims invalid since Christianity is inherently monotheistic.
Japanese people also look at Christians the way Europeans look at Jews, exotic but ultimately foreign tribe that might prove to be dangerous. Japanese converts to Christians back from the 17th century often collaborated with Portuguese and Dutch to rebel against local warlords, potentially making Japan into another European colony. This is why Christianity were purged from 3 centuries continuously. If it were not for the religious freedom from Japanese constitution forced by the US there wouldn't be any Christians left in Japan.
> it would just purge all the gays, traps, and porn addicts.
Open acceptance of homosexuality have been the trend in Japan before the influence of Buddhism and even the birth of Jesus. The concept of chastity, which real Christians obsess about, doesn't even seem attract the Japanese, virgins were seen as people who have been possessed by demons.
https://invidio.us/watch?v=Yl0m3pm5SCo
Even converted Christians were still practicing homosexuality because it was the norm. Oda Nobunaga, for example had a wife and a boy lover.
Christianity can never eradicate homosexuality in Japan, much like it hasn't been able to do the same in Europe.
Keep making retarded claims, Kike-worshipping cumskins. You can't even make a proper argument, much less killing gay people.
Just let people have their society and run it however they like, it isn't like they have any interest in making your society worse in the first place. The Japanese don't scream with megaphones to the whole world proclaiming they have the best culture on earth and everyone else should follow it, unlike Americans who have been doing that since the 60s. Like what was being said in >>7507 it's largely Burgers compensating the emptiness within themselves.
>>7509
>Neither of those positions look enjoyable.
So do the other 40 positions. The Japanese are a creative bunch when it comes to this.
Pic related.
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No.7544
>>7542
>This is why Christianity were purged from
*from Japan
>from Japanese constitution
*liberal Japanese constitution
>doesn't even seem attract
to attract
>unlike Americans who have been doing that since the 60s
Also it helps to know that Japanese is practically isolationist in terms of culture, it was forced to adopt bits of American pop "culture" as Americans were pacifying the populace. What the Japanese people do in their TVs and literature are mostly insulated until Americans started broadcasting them to the world. Anime wouldn't be known to the whole world if Americans didn't start watching them. This isolationist practice can still be seen, the MV release of Plastic Love by Mariya Takeuchi recently wouldn't have happened without Youtube, even though the song itself had been left rotting for 20 years in Japan, never seeing an international release until now.
So just forget any notions that the Japanese is out there to poison the world. No, it was the world who took the poison from the Japanese and drunk it themselves.
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No.7551
>>7542
Fun Fact, weeb. Before prots fucked everything up, Christianity made sure sodomy was illegal and sodomites got the justice they deserved.
Besides, The Emperor's divine right to rule would still be valid under Christianity. Just replace the royals being descendants of Amaterasu to be appointed by God Himself which is true because God gives us the rulers we deserve
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No.7552
>>7544
>>7521
Have you even read the Meiji Constitution?
Read Article I and Article III and acknowledge what anon stated.
>But the fact is the Imperial Family claims its legitimacy from a Sun Goddess, with blessings from hundreds, possibly thousands of other lesser gods
Some constitutional monarchists won't be content until all that is sacred in the divine nature of monarchy is sucked out and replaced with a secular, liberalist constitution as the new sacred emblem.
I'm not this >>7542 guy, but I respect Japanese culture enough to not want to see Shinto removed.
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No.7553
>>7551
>Before prots fucked everything up,
Weren't those "prots" under the very responsibility of Christians themselves, just like how Christian kings were responsible for their societies?
Just keep blaming random people for your fault, just like you blamed kikes for killing another kike on a stick.
>Just replace the royals being descendants of Amaterasu to be appointed by God Himself
Do you even read my post? What I implied previously was it doesn't require only Amaterasu to legitimize the Imperial Family, but also many other lesser gods.
As stated by >>7140
>Oligarchies between land owners, clans, warriors and aristocrats have much more clout than the Emperor for the most of Japanese history
What you sandnigger and leech worshippers fail to understand is that the Emperor cannot just hog all the power to itself. Add the fact that each clans have their own gods to worship, regional divisions between whose god to worship and then you'll see Shinto for what it truly is; a polytheistic religion. Replacing that with Christianity doesn't work at all, because even if the Emperor is legitimized, Christianity doesn't and can never address the legitimacy of all other clans, and current day Japanese elites, which have much more contribution collectively than the Imperial Family alone. Why? Because Christianity is monotheistic and rejects the notion of any other gods other than that One.
Besides, Christianity hold the sanctity of other land and societies that are far away from the Japanese archipelago, and that is quite un-nationalistic. The ancient Japanese, despite copying half their culture and all their technology from the ancient Chinese, do not see China as sacred, and even look to them as inferior in some aspect. Cue the part where Tenmu stated that he is superior in religious term to the Chinese Emperor since his family descended from the Sun Goddess, instead of merely being mandated by the Heaven to rule a country like the latter. How would the Japanese consider themselves culturally inferior and bow to the Europeans, especially at times where European-descended people are going through collective identity crisis?
Holy crap, why I am even making an elaborate reply to a post containing nothing but baseless claims?
>>7552
>Have you even read the Meiji Constitution?
>Read Article I and Article III and acknowledge what anon stated.
Don't understand what do you mean by this.
The "Heavens" 「天」 were referring to the Shinto Gods, by the way, and have no relations with Christianity.
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No.7554
>>7553
>What you sandnigger and leech worshippers fail to understand is that the Emperor cannot just hog all the power to itself
That is not truly what even absolutists believe. The nature of power doesn't come about like this, but rather that the Emperor is the highest and final authority, not the only authority.
Here's the thing I don't like about most constitutional monarchists. They don't even support the traditional rights and prerogatives of their monarchs. Instead they only view it from the balancing perspective of a parliament or aristocracy dominating the monarchy rather than vice versa. They view the Constitution as their weapon against monarchy rather than a weapon for the monarch and so anyone who has the urge to hand a weapon to the monarchy must appeal to another means of right. I'm more convinced that these people only care about their aristocracy rather than monarchy. A position held is that monarchy is superior to aristocracy and the monarch does what few and many cannot do. All along this perspective has enforced the view that the aristocracy must restrain rather than the monarchy restrain the aristocracy. If that is the case, you're probably another aristolarp because most monarchists go easy and give aristocracy a free pass and lip service as opposed to democracy, but aristocracy is another form of government and a great number of us actually value what a monarchy has to offer in sole principle than only the merits of aristocracy. Now, I would come around to appreciate both in a sense, but with aristolarps – that compromise is almost never available because they want their monarch to be their eunuch.
>The "Heavens" 「天」 were referring to the Shinto Gods, by the way, and have no relations with Christianity.
Not about Christianity. I was only pointing out how the Meiji Constitution promotes the sacred line from their early ancestor and how it is divine, sacred, and inviolable as stated by the Meiji Constitution.
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No.7555
>>7554
>That is not truly what even absolutists believe
Fair enough, I was baited to think otherwise.
God forbid I talked to another Reddi-, no, another Gaia-tier shitposter.
>If that is the case, you're probably another aristolarp
If there's any opinion you should listen to, it's this:
>Just let (other) people have their society and run it however they like, it isn't like they have any interest in making your society worse in the first place.
My personal opinion regarding to government models is irrelevant to this thread. On that matter, what I've repeatedly implied within my posts was that the Japanese adopted a bottom-up approach to leadership, that doesn't mean I like that model. It is still in practiced in modern Japanese corporations, you might want to read Alex Kerr's books for more elaboration on this topic.
So addressing the "problems" if there were any in the first place of the Japanese people through the Imperial Family isn't going to change much.
>most monarchists go easy and give aristocracy a free pass and lip service as opposed to democracy
Please elaborate.
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No.7556
>>7555
typo
>If there's any opinion
If there's any of my opinion
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No.7557
>>7555
>Fair enough, I was baited to think otherwise.
Maybe if you're a Hobbesian and believe the monarch -is- the People, but not all of us are. While I sometimes vindicate his stances because there are good individual arguments, I don't always cater to this idea. Now, maybe you're right that a monarch who is supreme commander is offending the aristocratic sensibilities when there are no others who are holding armies. I only have a few problems to pose.
>Please elaborate.
Okay, one second.
<What you sandnigger and leech worshippers fail to understand is that the Emperor cannot just hog all the power to itself.
Here is the thing. I'm not going to look at it as if it is anymore immoral for just a few to hold power all to themselves. This is what the democratic representatives say, but they select their own power over than monarch – so I don't believe it is unjust that these people get to get act rather than a monarch. As for the nature of power, it is often the case that these people believe it is only in law-making that there is any political force/influence because they think like republicans. However, power goes along with religion, military practices, and always in the traditional structure of the family.
I have seen to it that there is a different anatomy to politics and the components of our civilization than most other people. They forget the essential core to what politics is and what it interacts with – people within a group of categories where it begins with you and me rather than just the political lackeys. These representatives claim to represent me, but they don't have my authority or my consent.
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No.7558
>most monarchists go easy and give aristocracy a free pass and lip service as opposed to democracy
Let me elaborate on this specifically.
Every standard monarchist typically knows the problem with democracy, but they never criticize the other side. It might not be as easy to for good reason because aristocracy is definitely not the same as democracy. However, I don't think any monarchist worth his salt should abandon a card. Being a monarchist doesn't mean opposing all aristocracy in favor of democracy, or opposing all democracy in favor of aristocracy. It is more a means of attempting to balance these influences. I think many monarchists cripple themselves when they aren't critical of the core of aristocracy. They don't notice the benefits of it, while many only memorize the bad aspects of tyranny. If nobody is familiar with the watchword, how will they know their opponents? I am really open to flirting with any political discourse if it comes to benefit. I view politics as something very dynamic like a constant tug-of-war with people on each side of the rope. That's the way of the political arena. I'm going to tug my rope.
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No.7559
>>7558
This post actually stopped my headache caused by this one >>7557.
Kudos, mate.
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No.7560
>>7559
>Kudos, mate.
You don't even know what a headache is
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No.7568
>>7542
It's not exactly correct to translate the term as simply meaning god, as far as I'm aware. You can't worship other gods, but as far as I know traditional forms of Christianity don't have an issue with venerating nature spirits. It's not like the Japanese would be unique in that regard either, most people in Iceland believe in elves.
>The Japanese don't scream with megaphones to the whole world proclaiming they have the best culture on earth and everyone else should follow it, unlike Americans who have been doing that since the 60s.
t. cultural relativist
>>7551
Divine right to rule as a general thing across the board is a meme, and has always been a meme. Especially when formulated the way you did, it's essentially useless since if the monarch is dethroned it means he no longer has the right to rule.
>>7553
>People defined by their rejection of a group are that group's responsibility
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No.7571
>>7568
>It's not exactly correct to translate the term as simply meaning god
Yes, there isn't a truly correct term to substitute 「神」 in English. In Japanese, that word may refer Jesus, Amaterasu, Pagan gods or even Allah depending on context. But what is more important is that the Japanese worship these gods instead of just venerating them, so equating them to merely nature spirits isn't really correct.
>t. cultural relativist
Doesn't make it any less true.
Which country forced liberalism and consumerism to the whole world throughout the 20th century?
>People defined by their rejection of a group are that group's responsibility
>ignoring the fact that those Protestants were once Catholic
>no true scotsman
Sure, just abandon your responsibility on your fellow kinsmen. Just like how /pol/ love to label leftist whites as kikes.
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No.7574
>>7542
>Jews, exotic but ultimately foreign tribe that might prove to be dangerous.
If Europeans still viewed Jews in this way we likely wouldn't be in near as many messes as we are now.
>much like it hasn't been able to do the same in Europe
You don't need to "eradicate" homosexuality to deal with it, only the LARPiest of siegeposters believe that. Making it social taboo, something only spoken of in hushed tones and practiced in dark, soundproof basements is more than enough to curtail its degenerative effects on a culture. Christianity was able to do this to great effect.
>Just let people have their society and run it however they like, it isn't like they have any interest in making your society worse in the first place.
Are you referring to Japs or fags here? If you're referring to fags, you're wrong for several different reasons. Not only do the fags themselves make a culture worse by engaging in high time-preference behavior (often with young boys)
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No.7577
>>7571
>the Japanese worship these gods
I'm not sure that's the case. After all, Catholics are often accused of worshiping saints by protestants. I believe it's possible there's miscommunication occurring due to differences in framework and the difficulties in translation that result.
>Doesn't make it any less true.
That's not the point. Some cultures are superior to others. Some ideas are superior to others.
>>ignoring the fact that those Protestants were once Catholic
And? Protestants are defined by their rejection of Catholicism. That's literally why they're called protestants.
>no true scotsman
That's not how no true scotsman works you moron. They're the ones rejecting the label.
>Fellow kinsmen
See above.
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No.7579
>>7504
>Porn is a big part of Japanese culture, it was used as a medium for sexual education to young married couples. Look up shunga.
Should have glassed the whole island in that case.
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No.7581
>>7571
>Protestants/Catholics
>no true scotsman
By that same logic separating Mary Jane Rottencrotch from her virgin peers is a no true scotsman because she was a virgin once upon a time. Tell me, has pulling a prewritten "_ Fallacy" accusation out of your as ever won an argument for you?
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No.7582
I wonder if the Amerimutt here unironically calls Beanerland a better country than Japan for being Mud Catholics.
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No.7586
>>7581
>has pulling a prewritten "_ Fallacy" accusation out of your as ever won an argument for you?
Every reply to a "_ Fallacy" post should start with this.
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No.7593
>>7582
>implying Freemasonry didn't ruin Mexico like they ruined every other nation on earth
Here's your (you), race-idolater.
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No.7594
>>7593
Tell us more on how there are no differences in behavior in different populations in different environment. Keep running away from the point though.
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No.7623
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.7733
The US was from the startt a cesspit of Enlightenment/Modern Degeneracy. A cesspit that would grow to warp the rest of the world.
Knowing the country is 56% White and sinking, dying of opioids, filled with rising hostile Vibrants (including the “Modal Minority” Orientals) is rather uplifting. Fattyland’s getting the torture it deserves.
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No.7753
>>7582
Christian Mexico is objectively better than pagan Mexico
Just like how Christian Europe was objectively better than both pagan and secular Europe.
Likewise Christian Japan would be objectively better than pagan Japan.
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No.7797
>>7753
This, and it saddens me that Japan isn't a Christian nation, because Catholicism had a glorious tenure in it. Several thousand martyrs, and it survived underground for over a hundred years! Then a certain president dropped nukes on it…
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No.7835
>>7124
Your mother's cheap export is hooker sex
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No.7886
>>7582
No I don't.
Muh goddamn mutts n stuff
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No.7887
>>7733
This meme is tired and old. Blame Israel instead.
Besides you don't get to make that judgment since all moral judgments do not exist outside ones own moral judgment.
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No.7889
Anime is a prime example of why two nukes just wasn't enough
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No.7904
>>7889
Das rite! Fuck that gay twink shit. /monarchy/ is a Christian board.
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No.7906
>>7904
God save the Tsar, BURN all the twinks as it says in Saint-Emperor Justianian's Law.
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No.7918
>>7522
shintoism is a polytheist religion like indianism and hellenism
it has no place in the world we christians want
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No.7940
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No.7943
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No.7954
>>7918
It's closer to animism than polytheism. Christianity is no stranger to coexisting with belief in the existence of nature spirits and such. Hell, in Romania and Ukraine, there at least used to be a tradition of putting painted Easter eggs into rivers to let underground ratmen know when it was time to celebrate Easter. As long as people aren't worshipping them, it should be fine, far as I'm aware.
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No.7971
>>7943
i was baptised as catholic yearsa ago thought
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No.8040
>>6907
Many people say the bombs broke Japan's spirit. They're wrong, the Japanese spirit was truly broken by MacArthur forcing the emperor to deny his divinity. What they did was the equivalent of holding Jesus, or Allah at gunpoint and making them tell they're followers that everything they said was bullshit
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No.8041
>>8040
>Or allah
Fuck, I meant Muhammad.
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No.8080
>>8040
It takes 30 seconds to check and see that the Emperor himself didn't consider himself divine and didn't really have a problem with telling people that he wasn't.
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No.8106
>>8080
It doesn't matter what he thought, he was only the temporary holder of the throne of a long line of emperors. Undermining the whole institution because some foreigners forced you to is nigh treasonous
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No.8120
>>8106
I was commenting specifically on the claim he was forced. Monarchs should not deceive their people with false claims of divinity.
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No.8227
>>6907
Force won out, the clever and mighty are the true aristocrats of nature.
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No.8289
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No.8299
>>8120
How was he understood to be divine? Is this similar to the idea of Divine Right of Kings?
As a Christian, I assert the monarch and the church should be inseparable. They should reinforce one another.
Also I am sympathetic to the Japanese Empire, they were forced to accept liberalism by the barrel of a gun. The Japan of today is just a pathetic shadow of America not even resembling that Empire.
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No.8303
>>8299
The Emperor was considered to be descended from Amaterasu the goddess of the sun.
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No.8366
>>8299
As a Christian who knows history, the church is far better of with the church being kept seperate.
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No.8369
>>8366
Checked, but no like for the Ancien Regime? At least when there is no separation of church and state, then you've got the Church Estate keeping the government from trying to do all the welfare crud.
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No.8375
>>8366
And how has that worked out today? Man is fundamentally religious therefore the state is either harmonised to the church or seeks to destroy the church and impose its own state religion. We need the double headed eagle, the Byzantine answer. Church and state in cooperation and symphony. No one is arguing the state is above the church so don’t even try to imply that is our position. It doesn’t take a genius to realise for centuries from Constantine to the early modern era Christians have been for a confessional state. Secularism is anathematised. Even the Lutherans advocated monarchy.
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No.8376
>>8369
When you have separation of church and state, the state runs the church. Period.
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No.8622
>>8376
90% of the point of the separation of church and state is protecting the church from the state.
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No.8623
>>8622
No, it was secular power that initiated this revolution. The Church didn’t need to be separated from the state for almost two millennia. Why all of a sudden now? This is the definition of a modernist - one who sees thousands of years of tradition and dismisses it because it doesn’t gel with the current year. The Church is taxed to death in America if any priest teaches against modern degeneracy. The culture has fallen so low and the religious authority has been broken in the west, now we are at the mercy of a demonic secular establishment.
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No.8632
>>8623
>The Church didn’t need to be separated from the state for almost two millennia.
And we saw the problems that caused. If you knew fucking ANYTHING about the history of the church, you'd see those problems (some of which still exist in places that reject the separation of church and state, like China). Temporal authority appointing bishops. Political corruption plaguing the RCC. At certain points, the Byzantine Emperor basically ran the EOC. No thanks. This has nothing to do with how things are done now and everything to do with how many problems there were from how things were done before.
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No.8636
>>8632
>At certain points, the Byzantine Emperor basically ran the EOC
Revisionism.jpg
If this were the case there would not have been heretical emperors or great martyrs for our faith. Orthodoxy would have become a heresy factory, and it hasn’t. :)
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No.8637
The Catholic Church as a worldly institution more or less started the liberal mess by playing up the "two swords" doctrine and refusing to exert sovereign power over the medieval princes when they were in a dominant position. Eventually the princes got the upper hand (see prots).
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No.8644
>>8636
"At certain points" doesn't mean "during the entire duration".
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No.8654
>>8644
>if there are periods of time when the Patriarch of Constantinople was weak to the Emperor, then that means that there was no contesting between the two
Look, from reading Crisis in Byzantium, it seems to me that the Emperor was king over temporal affairs, while the Patriarch was ruler over spiritual affairs. One could not fuck with the other without severe consequences, and they both knew this.
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No.8656
>>8636
"Orthodoxy" worships idols
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No.8658
>this was a thread about japanese monarchy
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No.8660
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No.8665
>>8658
A decent point. Other religion threads:
Most relevant:
>>1116
Of interest:
>>406
>>6615
>>6940
>>1695
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No.8667
>>8656
>Protestant enters the thread
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No.8673
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No.8697
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No.8749
Any chance for a restoration in Japan?
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No.8750
>>8749
I hear Ishin Seito Shimpu is gaining traction in Japan. Has the new Emperor done anything of note as of late?
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No.8756
>>8750
Japan actually has a major monarchist political party. They really are going to make anime real.
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No.8774
>>7484
Everyone here is saying Japan is blameless. So I dunno. FDR wasn't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack though
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No.8775
>>8697
It is you're just a twat. Or rather imitating a twat sucking in and blowing out fishy air
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No.8787
>>8774
FDR was the proto-neocon.
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No.8845
>>8787
In a sense yes, but he was more like Sanders in the economic sense
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No.8846
>>7015
We wouldn't be in that situation if boomers just died
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No.8893
the king of japan is not divine
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No.8930
>>6907
As an American, I hope you do. Fight strong and die honorably.
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