No.1695 [Last50 Posts]
Do you think a pagan monarchy could possibly arise in Europe's future (or any other part of the world)?
Me personally, I think that if people were to go back to their roots in terms of political ideology, they should also go back to the spiritual/religious traditions of their ancestors. Since christianity is a semitic religion with exclusively semitic prophets it has no connection to Europe whatsoever. It would not make sense for an non-Hebrew king to claim that he rules by divine right if the god he worships is one created by Hebrews.
The only modern monarchy I know of that could be considered a pagan monarchy is that of Japan whose ruling family claims to be descended from the Shintoist sun goddess Amaterasu (Shintoism being the native religion of Japan). Before the end of WWII the emperor was considered to be a god-like being himself and was actually worshipped by some.
A monarch that is actually an important aspect of his people's religion would be hard to be overthrown and indeed, the Japanese royal family has ruled for thousands of years.
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No.1696
>>1695
>Do you think a pagan monarchy could possibly arise in Europe's future
no
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No.1697
>>1695
>Since christianity is a semitic religion with exclusively semitic prophets it has no connection to Europe whatsoever.
Except, you know, after well over a thousand years of being the prevailing religion, it kinda does, and no amount of empty rhetoric about muh teutonic heritage is gonna change that. At least I think you're going with that. Hard to anticipate, because like Marxists, biological antisemitists have an aversion to sticking to any concrete position.
>It would not make sense for an non-Hebrew king to claim that he rules by divine right if the god he worships is one created by Hebrews.
Good thing no Christian king ever claimed that God was createt by anyone. That would be kind of retarded, don't you think?
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No.1699
>>1696
Okay, thank you for contributing to this thread.
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No.1700
>>1697
>biological antisemitists
What the fuck does that even mean? I don't deny being an anti-semitist though.
>That would be kind of retarded, don't you think?
Only as retarded as worshipping a kike really.
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No.1701
>>1700
>What the fuck does that even mean?
As opposed to cultural or religious antisemitism. It's pretty self-explanatory, really.
>Only as retarded as worshipping a kike really.
Good, now that you called Him a kike, you hopefully fulfilled your kike-quota for today.
Let me quote your original post again: >>1695
>It would not make sense for an non-Hebrew king to claim that he rules by divine right if the god he worships is one created by Hebrews.
It completely makes sense if the God they "created" was not created at all, but rather always existed, and if it isn't the God of a particular nation, but of all nations. Which is what every Christian throughout history believed, so invoking the divine right makes sense, given these premises.
What doesn't make sense is to invoke the divine right when you only follow a religion because you're LARPing, and not because of a genuine belief. Which I believe is the case with you, given your wording here:
>Me personally, I think that if people were to go back to their roots in terms of political ideology, they should also go back to the spiritual/religious traditions of their ancestors.
This has nothing to do with genuine faith, you're basically saying that we should go back to a certain religion for political or cultural reasons. In which case you could just as well ask if an atheist monarchy could work, and the answer is yes, but then you don't get to bring up muh divine right.
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No.1706
Why would you want a pseudo-atheist (aka "pagan") monarchy? No one believes in those gay made up gods since hearing the gospel.
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No.1715
You can’t build an entire government on ethnic folk stories. You need a moral code, a set of universally-agreed-upon ethical standards, and a community willing to enforce them. Paganism offers none of that in any codified way.
And I’ve grown really tired of the “Christianity is Semitic” meme. If Christianity is Semitic, then you might as well say the Norse gods are Ukrainian or that all humans are Negroes. It may have had its origins in a Semitic culture, but that is irrelevant to any analysis of its moral code. The whole reason “anti-Semitism” exists is because of the actions of the Jews in the Diaspora, after the advent of Christianity, which were hated (with good reason). But Diaspora Jews and Biblical Hebrews are apples and oranges.
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No.1716
>>1701
>As opposed to cultural or religious antisemitism
No such thing as cultural or relgious anti-semitism, to realise the faults of the jewish race is to hate every aspect of their being and way of life.
>Which is what every Christian throughout history believed
Did they though? A lot of pagan rulers in medieval Europe converted to christianity with the idea that the christian god was simply stronger or more benevolent than their own pagan god/gods. Same thing happened to Arab pagans and their conversion to islam; they simply believed Allah was stronger than their own gods.
>>1706
>those gay made up gods
Jawheh was made up by kikes and Jesus claimed to be his son, your own god and EVERY god is a made up one but the average person will believe in any god as long as it seems to favour their lives and supposedly grants their wishes.
The point I was trying to make was that a king who rules by divine right granted by the gods of his ancestors would be less likely to be overthrown by his people, who share the same ancestors, than one who rules by divine right granted by a foreign globalist god who has no connection to his people and therefore can be overthrown at any time because every christian king could just as easily claim that the christian god favours them over their rivals.
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No.1718
>>1716
>No such thing as cultural or relgious anti-semitism, to realise the faults of the jewish race is to hate every aspect of their being and way of life.
You're an idiot. You can hate the Jewish culture or religion without hating them as a race, as Martin Luther, for example, did. Work on your reading comprehension.
>Did they though? A lot of pagan rulers in medieval Europe converted to christianity with the idea that the christian god was simply stronger or more benevolent than their own pagan god/gods. Same thing happened to Arab pagans and their conversion to islam; they simply believed Allah was stronger than their own gods.
Again, you're an idiot, and you need to work on your reading comprehension. Here's the context: >>1701
>It completely makes sense if the God they "created" was not created at all, but rather always existed, and if it isn't the God of a particular nation, but of all nations. Which is what every Christian throughout history believed
Every CHRISTIAN (not ruler) believed that God was universal, not just God over a particular nation. The latter has nothing to do with whether they still believed in their own gods.
Jawheh was made up by kikes and Jesus claimed to be his son, your own god and EVERY god is a made up one but the average person will believe in any god as long as it seems to favour their lives and supposedly grants their wishes.
>The point I was trying to make was that a king who rules by divine right granted by the gods of his ancestors would be less likely to be overthrown by his people, who share the same ancestors, than one who rules by divine right granted by a foreign globalist god who has no connection to his people and therefore can be overthrown at any time because every christian king could just as easily claim that the christian god favours them over their rivals.
If every god is made up, then your talk of a divine right is misguided. Which is what I told you from the very beginning, I believe.
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No.1721
>>1716
>your own god and EVERY god is a made up one
Is it even worth debating you?
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No.1725
>>1716
>EVERY god is a made up one
Behold! By the power of this 6mio times folded KATANA I dub thee a Samurai. You may rise now, and pay for ye lady's illegitimate offspring, Sir Fedo-Rah.
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No.1738
I seriously doubt it will happen. I don't mean to denigrate the value of pagan texts; but modern pagans are doing it as a lifestyle, not as a real religion. That said, it may be possible to use paganism while still being a Christian monarchy. Invoking the solar archetype as a divine-right to kingship does not preclude being a Christian. In fact some of the medieval kingdoms attempted to do so. The point you make about Japan is absolutely fascinating. I've never looked at it that way before.
inb4 autistic screeching by pagans, christians, atheists, and /leftypol/ over not adhering 100% to their niche beliefs
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No.1744
>>1738
>Invoking the solar archetype as a divine-right to kingship
this, we need to build a society of *imminent transcendence* based on archetypes which penetrate deep in the unconscious
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No.1746
>>1738
I’d differentiate between a monarchy that draws on the ancient pre-Christian archetypes versus one that is actually doctrinally pre-Christian (or more accurately post-Christian, as that is what Neopaganism aims to be). The latter is quasi-atheist posturing, but the former is an attractive concept. Louis XIV was called the Sun King, after all. No reason to assume a Christian monarchy and a solar archetype are mutually exclusive. Or the “axis mundi,” as Evola called it.
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No.1768
>>1715
>he needs a book to tell him what morality to have
>he needs universal ethical standards
Uh common law aka the best law would like to speak with you and tell you that your jewish law sucks dick
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No.1769
>>1768
>common law
Anglos are worse than jews. Let the kikes have Israel and the Palestinians have England. Is this the solution to the middle east conflict?
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No.1781
>>1721
>>1725
>le fedora maymay xddd
Why are christkikes so unoriginal?
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No.1782
>>1781
>uses the term “Christkike” unironically
>calls me unoriginal
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No.1787
The amount of pagans I had to deal with lately really rustled my jimmies. None of them could point me towards any apologetics.
To the paganfags, why do you believe what you believe? There must be some intellectual reason for it, otherwise you're really just larping, which you claim you aren't.
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No.1788
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No.1789
>>1787
>The amount of pagans I had to deal with lately really rustled my jimmies
Soviets used poganism as intermediate step towards communist-atheism in central and eastern Europe after WWII, I'd assume it's the old tricks again
European Pagans didn't have private property concept defined by Roman Law for example, so you can see why reverting to a system where an individual OWNS NOTHING could be beneficial to some. Marriage wasn't as big of a deal as A VOW MADE BEFORE GOD HIMSELF, either.
Not to mention, pre-vatican II Christianity already took the cool part about poganism, and removed the retarded parts.
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No.1790
>>1789
Roman law was made by European pagans. Germanic people also had private property as a concept, albeit in a familial context. So your heirs were co-owners of certain commodities, and you couldn't influence who those heirs were. I'd prefer that one over the Roman system 7 days of the week. Balts and Slavs are of course not real humans so I do not know what their situation used to be like.
In addition marriage did not mean monogamy. I deny that Roman Catholicism has any pagan elements.
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No.1835
>>1695
I know you're desperate to find a way out of today's degenerate world but could you guys stop this pagan meme already.
It's so cringey.
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No.1837
>>1835
Why is it cringy to worship the old gods of your ancestors and not cringy to worship a semitic god made up by a bunch of nomads who would later be the source of that same degeneracy?
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No.1838
>>1837
>Why is it cringy to worship the old gods of your ancestors
You don't know anything about the religion of your ancestors. You probably do not even know who your ancestors were because you are an American mongrel. All of your known ancestors were Christians.
> and not cringy to worship a semitic god made up
He is not made up.
>who would later be the source of that same degeneracy?
Yes. Those degenerate Christian middle ages. Oh wait you were implying that Christianity is at fault that the world rejecting Christianity goes to shit? nvm
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No.1839
>>1838
>because you are an American mongrel
I'm not, nice projecting.
>He is not made up.
He is. You did not get the point of my post, the nomads I was referring to are the jews who made up "Yawheh", Jesus later claimed that he was the son of that same god. His followers may bear a different name but they worship the same god and those who created him are now the ones pushing degeneracy in the west.
Even if you think the pagan European gods are "cringy", at least they were worshipped by Europeans only and not by kikes.
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No.1840
>>1839
>He is.
Well he created the universe. And the universe is real. So its creator needs to be real too. qed
>at least they were worshipped by Europeans only and not by kikes.
not an argument
There are no differences between the pagan gods worshipped by Europeans and the pagan gods worshipped by the jews you know? Because what we know as the middle east today used to be a part of Europe more so than Germany or Scandinavia. The more you know.
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No.1841
>>1840
>Well he created the universe. And the universe is real. So its creator needs to be real too. qed
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No.1842
>>1837
Because you don't believe in these gods, that why. You're being emotional, not rational about it. That's my conclusion after asking for apologetics several times and still not seeing any.
>>1838
>He is not made up.
This. We don't even have to prove this, just the fact that we make the existence of our God the starting point of our belief makes us less cringy. You are larping in the true sense of the word. You're acting like you know your gods exist when you don't even pretend to have a rational basis to believe that. And yes, we do have proof. Plenty of it.
>>1839
>Jesus later claimed that he was the son of that same god
Then He was crucified, at which point the sky darkened, and rose three days later. After a lifetime of healing people and doing other miracles. Even contemporary pagan sources called Him a sorcerer.
>Those degenerate Christian middle ages.
You mean, the degenerate middle ages in which people for the first time realized that enslaving your brothers in faith was a shitty thing to do? In which the european economy became independent of chattel slavery? The degenerate middle ages that preserved and expanded upon the great works of philosophy, laying the foundation for science as we know it? In which stories of saints dying for a greater cause than themselves supplanted those of gods cheating on their own wifes by raping their daughters?
>Even if you think the pagan European gods are "cringy", at least they were worshipped by Europeans only and not by kikes.
>kike kike kike kikekikekikekike…
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No.1886
>>1842
>You're being emotional, not rational about it
Just like Christians who base everything on faith and have no proof to show for their beliefs.
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No.1887
>>1886
>implying we’re Protestants
Fideism is a heresy, anon.
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No.1888
>>1886
>Just like Christians who base everything on faith and have no proof to show for their beliefs.
You mean, besides the historical evidence, the fact that many of us claim more or less strong witness of God, and the dozen or so philosophical proofs that theologians and philosophers have offered throughout the years, going as far back as fucking Plato, who clearly had no motive to write apologetics for a religion that didn't even exist yet?
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No.1922
>>1888
>besides the historical evidence
Even if Jesus existed there is no historical evidence for the fantasy aspects of the bible.
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No.1949
>>1922
Thing is, everybody claims he was doing magic or miracles.
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No.1950
>>1888
Technically Plato was writing about proof of A god, not the God, let alone God as Christians see Him.
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No.1951
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>>1888
>historical evidence
Contradictory and compiled decades after the alleged events.
>the fact that many of us claim more or less strong witness of God
Which is an interesting phenomenon, but not proof. Nobody denies religious 'experience'.
>the dozen or so philosophical proofs that theologians and philosophers have offered throughout the years
You should say arguments rather than proofs. To do otherwise there is no debate about the efficacy of these arguments.
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No.1976
I wrote a lengthy defense of Christianity, but got cut off. Here's an article from a website that makes all the points I made:
https://carm.org/is-there-historical-evidence-of-jesus-miracles
I would've rather written something up myself, but not twice. Sorry everyone.
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No.1986
>>1695
>I want this skinpack to my history simulator
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No.1987
>>1695
No, OP. Zero chances. First of all these neopagan movements simply don't have adherents enough to force any significant political change.
>Christianity is a semitic religion
And? This is a gross lack of knowledge of basic history of religion. Christianity is more of a roman religion than the jewish heresy that it was when it first appeared.
And in any case your vision is strikingly tribalist (you need of being from x tribe to rule x), more fitting to the religion you're criticizing (judaism) than the civilization who created christianism (Roman Empire).
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No.2203
>>1695
Maybe if your VIKANG ancestors didn't kidnap white women and sell them to Kebabs, Europeans wouldn't have rejected your phony gods for God.
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No.2208
>>1987
>Christianity is more of a roman religion than the jewish heresy that it was when it first appeared.
>the civilization who created christianism (Roman Empire)
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No.2209
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No.2230
>>1695
> (or any other part of the world)?
Japan is a possibility. Mexican drug cartels might go for indigenous paganism / catholic syncretism if they gain power.
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No.2246
>>2209
>Not clicking on evidence contrary to your position
Pagans and atheists tbh
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No.2248
>>2246
so why Jews who were comtemporary to jesus did not recognize him as son of god? protip: because he did not fulfill all prophecies
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No.2249
>>2248
>so why Jews who were comtemporary to jesus did not recognize him as son of god?
Protip: Because jews are of their father the devil
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No.2251
>>2248
>All people are rational and care about objective evidence
>protip: because he did not fulfill all prophecies
Can you name one He did not fulfill?
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No.2252
>>2251
Where are my 1000 goyim slaves??? checkm8 christians
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No.2255
>>2252
You're a funny guy. So, where is that prophecy written, and why do you think it wasn't fulfilled? Please write an essay of thirty words, you lazy bum.
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No.2257
>>2255
It is a prophecy that Rabbi Shekelberg added after debating G-d and winning. He wrote it in the T-LM-D. A book too holy for filthy goy eyes to read. Now go and toil the fields for the chosen!
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No.2259
>>2257
Well-worded argument, nigger. Care to enlighten us goyim, how does a Talmudic prophecy figure into the prophecies of Christ at all?
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No.2260
>>2259
That's racist. And even worse anti-semitic. I'll have to inform you that you are from now on prohibited to enter the UK for being a right wing radical terrorist. I hope you're happy now.
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No.2264
Let's be clear here:
All religions are false, and there is no god.
All supernatural deities are made up by mere mortal humans, and such gods are not ever actually seen, because they do not exist.
Just as Harry Potter used his wand to illuminate a dark room of the Hogwarts Castle, Jesus Christ darkened the sky with his death.
Yes, it was only written, never seen, except perhaps in cinematic movies, or other controlled settings.
But for us intelligent people here who are not in cults, we have the awareness to understand that most people do actually believe in a god, and the god they believe in is whichever god they grew up believing in, or were later indoctrinated to believe.
Let's not be naive here: Gods do not exist, nor do prophecies or miracles. This is a fool's conversation if the people here are actually going to believe this.
We say that the King is given a divine right so that the peasants do not ever dare say: "You ain't no king, you're just another mere mortal human, like the rest of us. How dare you try to have more power than the rest of us!"
It would lead to revolt, if the people ever dared question why it was the king who had power, and not one of the peasants.
Thus we delude the common peasant into thinking "God did it."
But again: There are naive people among us who think that these religions are actually true and real, and that the supernatural events of ancient books are true and real.
These people are not able to comprehend the true nature of the world, and will make mistakes when choosing a king. They will think that a king actually IS given divine right, and so once a king is chosen, the chooser will lose their sense of will, and not understand that the king is only a man.
Don't let yourself be tricked by popular cults.
When the Norse religions were popular, all believed.
When the Abrahamic religions became popular, all believed.
But they are not true.
This is a technological, scientific era, thus we can understand the true origin of these religions, and understand that they were made up.
The choice to believe or disbelieve is up to you.
I simply recommend you throw off your childish naivety when it comes to belief in ancient religious cults.
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No.2265
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>>2264
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand 'Religiots'. The salvation is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of 12 years public school and 2 decades university most of the prophecy will go over a typical childish religiots' head. There’s also Stirner's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Neil De Grasse Tyrone literature, for instance. The enlightened understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these fairy tales, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Materialism truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Stirner's existential catchphrase “Gib me you stuff” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Rabbi Prof. Weinberg's genius wit unfolds itselfin their minds. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Bill Nye tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
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No.2266
Do any of you see the irony of calling paganism dead while believing an ideology that can't survive this society's level of cultural progression?
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No.2267
>>2266
>cultural progression?
That's some nice marxist dialectic you have there kike
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No.2268
>>2267
Marxists hardly have a monopoly on the idea. Good luck trying to convince a modern population to prop up a leader and have his descendants lead by birthright. Even the fascists have a higher chance at achieving their goals by supporting meritocracy.
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No.2269
>>2268
>implying that meritocracy and Monarchy are mutually exclusive
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No.2270
>>2264
>all cults are baaaaad
>being a Christcuck is bad
>even Norse is teh dumb
>cast off your shackles and follow the new relig-…I-I mean the CORRECT and legitimate """ideology""" of equality
>if you don't believe in equality you are a heretic
>only blood can make things right
>All hail our earthly equality!
M'Comrade
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No.2271
>>2269
Controlling a kingdom because you have more resources than the peasants and being daddy's firstborn =/= meritocracy.
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No.2273
>>2264
All "good and bad" is false, there are but patterns and the distinction between multiple and singular is subjective.
C'mon, reductionism pulls the first rug from beneath you, not your enemies. Drinking your own poison won't make you respectable, it makes you a fool.
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No.2274
>>2271
>controling the kingdom because the subjects voluntarily gave their sovereignty to the King toooooooootaly means he didn't earn it
>true meritocracy comes from knowing a guy that knows a guy that has lots of money
>kings aren't smart enough to appoint the right guy to the job
>stoopid primative monarchits
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No.2275
>>2274
>controling the kingdom because the subjects voluntarily gave their sovereignty to the King toooooooootaly means he didn't earn it
Naturally choosing your leader from the best of the population is fine but as far as leadership is concerned it should be limited to the best man for the job not his son just by virtue of being born.
>true meritocracy comes from knowing a guy that knows a guy that has lots of money
Meritocracy as we see it today is shit because we live in a society concerned with materialism instead of the wellbeing of the people.
>kings aren't smart enough to appoint the right guy to the job
Even kings can be led astray and can have bias with who gets to control after they die, the temptation to ensure your bloodline stays in power is a strong one and shouldn't be decided by the king in this situation as far as the rest of the nation would be concerned.
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No.2279
>>2269
QFT.
At least in a monarchy you have a chance of not getting an egotistical power-hungry maniac. In a democracy, well, the only candidates are the ones who choose to be so, so it's guaranteed to be ruled by power-hungry maniacs.
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No.2293
>>2268
>convince a modern population
It's not a change done overnight, unless it is a military coup. Fascism is the first stage of retrieval towards such a system. Fascism inherits the disgusting idea of a political party.
What does a political party do? It is a body that selects from itself (through which means? Democratic?) representatives for causes, public and quite likely, those that are not. These representatives then gather magical energy from the people, also known as votes. The priest class - journalists - are largely in control over the fluctuation of this magical energy, so the political bodies have to deal with this priest class.
This priest class has made it certain that no revolts can occur. It has lulled the populations to such a state that they can be raped, pillaged and murdered and they won't raise an arm in protest.
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No.2294
>>2275
>Naturally choosing your leader from the best of the population is fine but as far as leadership is concerned it should be limited to the best man for the job not his son just by virtue of being born.
Why not? You want petty squabbling over the position of power, by those to whom power is all in all? Disgusting, you want a democratic hell.
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No.2348
>>2268
Meritocracy is a SPOOK.
There is no such thing.
It doesn't EXIST.
It is literally a social construct.
Ghostbusters!
>>1695
Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on monarchy. However, monarchy and religion have an important relationship. Religion and this understanding of power is what disciplines monarchs. It keeps them from becoming despots, outside of the notion of honor.
Pagan monarchy is unlikely, unless this civilization crumbles to dust. But Christianity and Western monarchy have a deep influence for centuries of political theory and theology. That is why it almost seems inseparable in the Western world, European monarchies and Christianity. I don't think paganism is to be scorned. It plays an immense role for the heritage of the public and shouldn't be discarded. A good monarchy should preserve the heritage of the public.
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No.2467
>>2268
The whold purpose of monarchy is to put the power in the hand of the best man in the kingdom. So trying to convince people to do anything is actually what we are against.
We don't care about common people. We care about the most intelligent one, that have a deep understanding of their suject, that could give the best choice.
THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.
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No.3287
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No.3288
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Varg will help this thread.
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No.3289
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No.3298
>pagan
Christianity, the religion of the white men, is what brough civilization. And yet you try to destroy it, exacly like the jews you claim to hate.
Humm… >inb4 someone posts ((neo))christianity
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No.3300
Christ, King and Country tbh
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No.3302
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No.3602
I'd honestly like to see how pagans would redeem monarchy in their revival of civilization.
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No.3691
Reminder that being Anti-Pagan goes in line with accepting racemixing.
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No.3792
>>3602
watch legend of the galactic heroes
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No.3930
>>1951
I can't find the screencap I have against speaking in tongues. But essentially it's that it was only ever used to speak in faith to another person who speaks a language you do not know, not to yourself or God for there'll be no point.
Anyways here's a dump of everything I have on paganism and jews
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No.3931
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No.3932
>>3931
sorry for the large dump but this is the last one
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No.4531
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No.6679
>>1695
Get out of here you retard
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No.6681
>>1695
>Pagan Monarchy
Nobody is going to take your oriental obscurantism and make a government out of it. Could there be an atheist dictatorship in Europe in the future? Sure, you can build anything on the assumption that might makes right. Could that atheist dictatorship pretend to be Pagan? Sure, Hitler let that shit flourish when he ruled Germany.
The problem for Paganism is an existential one; Pagan gods represent emotions and the pathetic fallacy of primitives attaches these emotions to physical phenomena, like thunder, wind, rain, bitter cold etc. Meanwhile the civic gods like lady Justice are representations of human institutions.
In short, this isn't on the same existential level as the Christian God. Maybe Dionysus worship comes close to approximating Christ, in terms of how Dionysus destroys Pentheus (a figure of worldliness, pic related) for his censorious hypocrisy in refusing Dionysus worship. Thus Dionysus brings about the triumph of divine wisdom over the sordidness of human activity. Overall though, Christ outdoes Dionysus, both in terms of providing a more veristic, true to life narrative, and also in allowing himself to die for our sins, and triumph over death in a fully supernatural way, rather than the merely zoistic triumph of alcoholism and fornication over Pentheus' false moralism.
That's what's so funny about Pentheus in Eurypides' Bacchae btw. He's so censorious and against Dionysian rites, but when Dionysus suggests that Pentheus cross-dress to go to and observe the female worshipers, Pentheus goes along with it because he's sexually repressed. Thus it's deserved when his mother who's high on drugs rips him limb from limb, and Pentheus becomes a human sacrifice for his own evil.
As you can see, Christianity is certainly more civilized. It excoriates the Pharisees, people like Pentheus, without demanding their blood-sacrifice to appease God's anger. Instead God is seen as the only sacrifice pure enough to heal a world which is infected with the spirit of hypocrisy and evil.
So in short, given that western culture views blood-sacrifice as an alien and savage custom, the answer is that Paganism is definitely not returning.
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No.6682
With the chain of tradition severed for more than a thousand years, Paganism is long dead and any attempt to resurrect it will result in an odd and bastardized pagan protestantism.
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No.6711
I wish the romans has genocided you snow niggers - oh wait you are not snowniggers, just normal niggers.
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No.6712
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No.7180
>>1695
A Tengriist Kaganate in Central Asia and Mongolia would be comfy. Would join 11/10
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No.7191
>>7180
Tengri biz menen, fellow central asiaboo
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No.7213
>>7191
>A fren !
Yes, Tengri biz menen friend. Hope you are in good health. Have a good day ;)
Also great pic. Saved.
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