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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.104206

Continued from the QTDDTOT >>>104111:

How would you say vigilante justice on another's behalf would work in ancap? "Vigilantism" in defense of one's own property and community is simple enough to justify, but acting to defend the rights of another person who has not employed you could get a little complicated. Let's say you're a prospective vigilante, and you were very reasonably certain that Smith was keeping Jones chained up in his basement without Jones's consent for Smith's own amusement. You are acquainted with Jones, but he is neither a member of your family, nor a client you are paid to protect, nor has he called for your assistance that you know of.

In my view, it would work something like this: You couldn't simply break into Smith's house. But, if you have told Smith that he is violating Jones's rights and you will work as Jones's agent to defend his rights if he does not cease, you would be in the right to take whatever steps are necessary to free Jones. However, if for whatever reason upon being freed Jones refuses to acknowledge you as his agent, and does not recognize you as acting in defense of him, Smith is only then liable to sue you for property damage. Does this sound accurate?

Obviously, in most cases acting as an agent on someone else's behalf would be considered fraud. But, as the person as whose agent you are acting would be the one who presses charges against you, if he decides he's okay with the actions you've taken in his name and gives them the stamp of approval, it's not an enforceable infraction.

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 No.104208

Generally Good Samaritan rules should apply. You can't hold someone liable for trying to save your life/fix your shit unless they do so incompetently and knowingly without qualification to do so (E.G. you can't go after someone for damaging your ribs by performing CPR, even if they aren't a certified practitioner, but you could certainly go after them if they were not certified, not instructed on how to perform CPR by a competent individual, and they just slammed their fist into your sternum repeatedly causing further damage).

Similarly you can't go after someone for fixing your property without asking, but you don't have to reimburse them and you can demand reparations if they in fact damaged your property because they were incompetent and knowingly tried to do so anyways.

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 No.104242

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>>104208

ie. You're taking a risk. It's kinda like when you're on a date, and you're being a sperg and you don't know if you should give her a kiss or if she will shoot you in self-defense, and obviously you don't ask "can I kiss you?" or "can I fugg you?" before doing the act because it's too weird and unnatural. So in the end you don't do anything at all.

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 No.104251

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>>104242

Now I'm just imagining some guy in ancapistan getting ready to go full vigilante, he's put on his batman mask and hockeypads, has his Davy Crockett McNuke rifle locked and loaded…

…then freezes right outside Kang Ooga's Compound of Child Slaves and NAP violation, fraught with indecision…does he have affirmative consent? What if the victims don't want to be rescued by you and are creeped out by it? OhshitIhesitatedandnowthemoment'sover, oh well. Then he goes home and plays some escapist vidya instead.

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 No.104257

>>104242

i would ask her

t. autist

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