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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.87005 [View All]

tell me the most redpill thing you know

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 No.90878

>isn't democracy great, goys?

>I'm so glad we live in a country where power can peacefully transfer every four years! Wow, America is so great

>Democracy may be useless and dysfunctional, but it's better than everything else!

I almost hate normalcattle NPCs more than the leftist shitposters. At least the latter are good for a laugh every so often.

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 No.90879

>>90877

Statistics can not tell anything about cause and effect. It can only suggest correlations, of which most are ignored as obviously unrelated.

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 No.90880

>>90878

Aw, baby got a new buzzword. Adorable.

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 No.90881

>>90879

Then how do you determine causality? You eliminate or control for other factors.

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 No.90886

>>90879

Like the other guy said, it's not exactly difficult to control out extraneous variables to definitively show that nigs are gonna nig. But even if you could, what difference does it make? Even if criminality and high time-preference aren't genetically inherent to niggerdom, but some ancillary reasons that only happen to be related to niggers, so what? Even if it's not baked into their DNA, the problem still goes away when the niggers go away, so it doesn't really matter. If the problem is cultural and not genetic, then nigger culture still disappears once niggers disappear. If it's an "income inequality" problem (which has been debunked, but let's humor it for now), well removing the niggers removes a lot of low-income people now doesn't it. If it's a "racist sexist KKK patriarchal oppression" problem, those also go away once the different race goes away. And so on.

Further, it's really irrelevant whether or not criminality or some other socially undesirable behavior is inherent to these people. Because the fact of the matter is, I just don't like them. I don't like their shitty music or their other cultural practices, I don't like the way they look, and I don't like their hoodrat names. There doesn't need to be a rational justification for that, I just have an in-group preference for my own people, as does everyone, whether they admit it or not.

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 No.90898

>>90886

>There doesn't need to be a rational justification for that

There does whenever you start thinking about passing laws.

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 No.90981

>>90881

Taking the measurements by itself is a possible factor, and a plausible one with regards to humans' behaviour.

>>90886

There are so many things legally encouraged or discouraged that it is difficult to see how much say anyone has, especially about things like culture and crime, which are heavily influenced both for the purpose of treating groups differently, and to make sure the groups are as separated as possible to continue treating them differently.

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 No.91054

>>90784

>Using statists' arbitrary definitions to try to quantify the badness of an entire demographic

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

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 No.91057

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>>91054

>crime rates and IQ are statism

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 No.91058

>>91057

>crime rates are statism

<looks at you, waiting.

>and IQ

<reminded, quits waiting

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 No.91060

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>>91058

>action

<action

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 No.91062

>>91058

Butterfly, is it you? pls die

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 No.91102

Being raped by Masonic deep state niggers when i was 6 pretty much cemented my hatred of the establishment. The greatest redpill is relizing what the world is and how little you actually matter. I was a star of the private school I was in. Advancing through the curriculum at a record pace until I realized what i was being prepared for. I managed to escape deep state Masonic niggers that raped me and then gave me the forgot pill but that didnt work correctly. Imagine living in a hell where if you advance the Masonic niggers are right there ready to take you back into the fold and once you go back into that fold you ARE NOT coming back out.

So you have to be medicore and nice and christian values just enough so they do not have a excuse to send you to some re education camp nor enough to reward you with that private school they were going to send you up in the mountains thats far away from civilization and parents IT was going to be all paid for by the "church" to.

Such a wonderful world we live in.

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 No.91109

>>91102

Where is this private school? Do they accept applications?

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 No.91147

>>87005

"Actually, it's ephebophilia."

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 No.91148

>>91062

No.

Crimes are defined by law. Therefore states.

IQ tests are based on an arbitrary set of questions that desires one general outcome. (A state could implement them, but it's usually just some authority figure that makes you take them) pls hi

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 No.91150

>>91148

That's absurd. Even if we accept for now that all authority is "statism", your objection to the methods used to measure niggerdom does not change the fact that nigs are gonna nig. You can use an IQ test, you can use some authority-free hippy shit, or you can use nothing at all, they will still have the same high time-preference behavior, and they're still going to rape, steal, and murder. This is like saying that the population of the US would skyrocket if only the statist Census Bureau would stop measuring it so often.

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 No.91152

>>91150

Anon, just ignore this stupid bitch. For all the time she's been here to still keep the idea of "money is evil" and fighting over it it's simply impossible to change any of the few bits of information imprinted on the insides of her skull.

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 No.91153

>>91102

plz tell me more, this is very intriuging.

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 No.91154

>>91150

Direct control of population numbers didn't catch on in America the way law enforcement, but if it did, there would be many more or less people and removing the census would improve things.

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 No.91156

>>91150

Measuring behavior, in whatever method, for a set group of people that are kept in a set environment, is going to give you similar results. Change the environment and the generation after will show a change in results. It's not skin pigment, it's socioeconomic conditions. Explain wiggers.

>>91152

The accumulation of money is the predominant function of this society. That breeds success for those that can gather the most, and those people are always the best suppressors of their own ability for feel sympathy for those they step on to get ahead. The world is run by sociopaths. Not talented or especially industrious people, but psychos.

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 No.91157

>>91156

>Measuring behavior, in whatever method, for a set group of people that are kept in a set environment

What are you going to throw at me next, Schrodinger's goddamn cat? This is a baseless assertion and makes no sense.

>Explain wiggers.

Tail end of the bell curve, with government-induced dysgenics+lugenpresse glorifying niggers warping how incentives work. But mostly the tail end of the bell curve, it's the same reason Thomas Sowell existing doesn't change statistics.

>The world is run by sociopaths. Not talented or especially industrious people, but psychos.

This is a true statement, but for the opposite reason: it is precisely because of the suppression of profit motive and the communist siren songs of equality and democracy that pond scum rises to the top

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 No.91161

>>91147

>being attracted to someone who's biologically ready to mate and has received sex education is different from being attracted to someone who has neither of those things

Holy shit, what a revelation. It's fucking embarrassing that some people actually think responding to being called out on their bullshit false equivalence between pedo and ephebo (aka normal human sexuality) by repeating back exactly what was said to them is some kind of witty rejoinder. America is the laughingstock of the universe.

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 No.91164

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>>91157

>This is a true statement, but for the opposite reason: it is precisely because of the suppression of profit motive

There is no "suppression of the profit motive"

>the communist siren songs of equality and democracy

Equality and democracy have been a thing since the revolution began, before it even. Are you a monarchist confederate or something? Book rec for you.

>Bell curve/Sowell

So you you think you've explained wiggers. Can you explain evolution or do you simply not believe it?

>This is a baseless assertion and makes no sense.

The brain is conditioned from birth onwards, and is highly malleable. Barring congenital defects, a couple of poor illiterates could transplant themselves to a new environment, have a child, feed it all new diet, culture and education, and that child will far surpass the parents in various and obvious metrics. This is not baseless. At all. This is obvious. This is socioeconomics and social norms persisting. The improve a people, improve their environment. The parents may be a lost cause and stuck in their ways, or certain cultural affinities may persist, like deep seated racism or religious dogmas, but they can and do change. That's the one constant in the universe.

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 No.96867

>>91164

>The brain is conditioned from birth onwards, and is highly malleable.

it is conditioned even before birth

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 No.97617

>>87005

> greatest red pill

leftists are sort of correct for being mad at corporation and so should we cos they are state created entities, historically created to give advantages to favorites of the kings, like nobles and those who poses state created currency. They disconnect an organization from the free market through fully government created laws like limited liability and a pardon from taxes as well as allowance for tax loopholes. This means that capitalism and the free market are not the same. In an economy you have land labour and capital, capitalism is when the state gives priority to capital and finance, to creating of paper and 'wind trade', instead of balancing the three.

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 No.97759

>>91156

>consensual labour is opression

oh not it is him again

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 No.97823

>>97617

>capitalism is when the state gives priority to capital and finance

Except that's wrong. Capitalism is an economic order in which goods are controlled by private owners, instead of the state. When the state imposes restrictions on what private owners can do, then it is taking control away from them and therefore strays from the proper definition of capitalism. You can be "more capitalist" or "less capitalist", but saying that capitalism is defined by state interference in the market is equating a concept with its very antithesis. The extent to which the state interferes in the market, to help or to hinder private interests, is the extent to which that economic order is NOT capitalist.

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 No.97840

>>91164

Shit, I was going to reply to you seriously but then I saw you're that gay tripfag. Blend in or get gone, especially from the boards I like. Go be gay on those Communist boards.

>>97759

Thanks. I'd almost forgotten.

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 No.97854

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>>87005

this is the only woke thing in the thread

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 No.97970

>>97823

In that case what is the difference between the free market and capitalism? why do we have two different terms that is supposed to describe the same thing? by saying that you ignore the history of capitalism and corporations. Free market is when all factors of production (land labor and capital) are equal, including currency and the medium of exchange and store of value that people choose to use. Historically the time when the priority was given to capital was when the central currency and the chartered monopoly were introduced. They were introduced to cut off the peasant communities from participation in value creation, as it is value creating that pulls you out of poverty. That was the time of birth of capitalism, when state connected and wealthy individuals started firms that engaged in monopolistic trade and other various imperialist ventures.

in the medieval time after crusades, the solders came back and brought tons of new technology, but the most important was the bazar or the market place. Now the peasants under feudalism would trade and eventually through private enterprise they got richer and richer, in fact thats why so many cathedrals in europe were built cos they did not have saving veichals so they put everything into cathedrals. Because before people would bring in their own goods and trade with money that they all agreed upon, cos gold is too valuable so u would use paper receipts or something along those lines. what that was was something called the 'peer to peer' economy. which is good and should not be suppressed cos its just free people trading what ever goods they want or made. Thats how wealth is created, thats how you get rich.

However as the middle class grows the upper class shrinks.

So the nobles made the concept of a chartered monopoly as well as central currency. It give the king's favorites a monopoly over certain fields and markets. It was made it illegal to create value on your own, outside of the corporation, so if you were a tradesman you had to work for the corporation. Around that same time is when clocks started to appear on towers, because now instead of people creating value for themselves they became employees and sold their labor. Because the way a corporation is structured (or the state structured it) its purpose becomes to produce returns in the short term to its investors, basically like giving back loans with interest. Its purpose becomes to convert value to shareholder cash. When u build a system on interest it requires growth, if you have to return more money than you own, it has to come from somewhere, either u take it from someone who goes bankrupt or you grow as a corporation. If you need to grow you need space and resource into which to expand. Historically speaking, that's what gave rise to all those mercantilist corporations of Europe. Because they have a growth mandate they go to the Americas or India or Africa and enslave and extract resources and value to fuel their growth. Corporations now technically function along the same rules.

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 No.97971

>>97970

>>97823

Now don't get me wrong I am a full-on free market guy, I don't discredit the amazing things that the free market and those corporations have created, also absolutely hate commie policy of state ownership and the rest of their BS however the facts that I have presented above does two things: it gives common ground for us and lefites to discredit the state and colonial powers of the past and link with today and second is that it explains the harm that corporations do create (and have created) to which he should not be blind. An economy is made up out of three factors of production: land, labour and capital. What my case states are that through a monopoly on violence (and central currency) the state give priority to capital instead of making the three equal. Thus corporations can afford to ignore and pollute the land (again not a tree hunger but pollution is still there and it is bad) and pay relatively small wages to its employees like amazon's workers on food stamps. There is a pretty good book on this whole situation called: Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus by Douglas Rushkoff. The guy isn't an economist so he comes up with those feel-good leftie ideas like guaranteed income and a few others but the overall message is legit.

The process of incorporation is given and dictated by the central authority. The gift of limited liability is given by a central authority, exemption from taxes and rules along which the stock market functions is dictated by the central authority. All those things are not natural to the market and exist only as a result of arbitrary rules that the state creates. Remember what Adams Smith said about the state: its purpose is to protect the haves from the have nots. Government gives all those goodies that disconnect from the market and give advantages to the company that is anti-competitive in exchange for obedience and submission to its rules.

Again as is said before, it's about equalizing the three factors of production: land, labor, and capital, otherwise, you get disenfranchised workforce and polluted environment. Like we have now where 40% of American adults cannot pay for a 400$ emergency or 46% of Canadians are 200$ away from not being able to pay their bills. Again not a commie or a tree huger but hate statists not only now but from the past.

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 No.97985

>>97854

yawn

here in europe we have 0 gun rights

dont be usacentric

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 No.97991

>tribalism is cucking

Then why do foreign tribal cultures have so many of THEIR OWN genetic offspring?

Do as they do, not as they instruct.

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 No.98029

>>97971

>amazon's workers on food stamps

The average amazon wage is $13 per hour excluding incentive pay. This is more than the warehouses in my state on average pay and i live in a state with one of the highest costs of living.

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 No.98030

Is the reason for blanketing the sky with cloud at night and using a Tesla type sun reflector during the day because . . .

THE SUN IS THE PORTAL TO ACCESS OUR STAR GATES (time travel)?

(and SYRIA IS ABOUT CLOSING THE STAR GATES?)

I was up all last night, thinking of you all and trying to find out why we still see no sun and have bonkers (-66C 'vortex') weather conditions. I wondered if it may be to limit weapons options - then I found this:

Twitter: Poisoned in Fake Terror Attack = Personal

https://twitter.com/InPoisoned

The information provided is precise and covers all main Q areas.

Sending my sincere best wishes and love to you all, friends. We are truly living through the miracle of all miracles. xxx

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 No.98040

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>>87005

As soon as you're somewhat serious about IRL policies with any authority, the LARPer ideologues of fascist, nazbol, WN, monarchists will suddenly become contextual libertarians when basic bitch corporations are far more intrusive in everyday life.

This is why i hate them.

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 No.98051

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>>87005

There is no secret organization to kill whites or prevent libertarians from rising up, etc. The government really is just that fucking incompetent and it's a mass series of fuckups that have lead to the current state of society.

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 No.98053

>>98051

nah, too much have happened for it to become beyond a coincidence. Also you are probably one of them.

> prevent libertarians from rising up

People in government want to keep their jobs as well as justify their existence. You will do whatever it takes to keep your miserable but easy job with 100,000$ retirement funds.

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 No.98058

>>98051

>never attribute to malice that which is explained by stupidity

On the whole, I agree. However, when you see disparate groups of people all exhibiting the exact same kind of stupidity at the most opportune possible moments repeatedly, it's much more difficult to presume innocence.

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 No.98060

>>98040

>WN

>White Nationalism

lol wtf are whites a nation now?

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 No.98064

>>98051

It's not simply a co-inky-dink, all that anti-white SJW bullshit is one of many tools of statecraft being used to weaken and exploit a population. Firstly, it's easier to control low IQ niggers than whites, and secondly, it's easier to control someone who has been shamed and beaten down from birth (modern white men) than someone who is completely confident in himself and his abilities (white men of the past).

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 No.98065

>>98053

>People in government want to keep their jobs as well as justify their existence. You will do whatever it takes to keep your miserable but easy job with 100,000$ retirement funds.

This too. National-socialism is still socialism, it's more likely that governments would let neetsocs in or copy their policies (as they did after WW2), instead of letting libertarians get into power and erode credibility in the institution of government.

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 No.104434

>>98065

people are not motivated by money only

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 No.104437

Most posters on 8chan are mentally ill

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 No.104438

I actually think National Anarchism would be the ideal form of society, but to get there there needs to be a transitional period of dictatorship, as only an authoritarian government will have the will and power to deport the nonwhites (Jews and mudslimes first) and exterminate the White traitors, which is necessary if white communities are to have any hope of living in peace.

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 No.104439

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>>104434

This. Politicians are saints.

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 No.104440

>>104438

I'd be happy either way as long as the dictator actually fulfills his promise to create ancap, but I'm very skeptical of such promises. For every Lee Kuan Yew there is a hundred socialist cocksuckers, and the chance of a getting an altruistic dictator seems low.

In any case, most of these niggers are illegals, and the rest have been invited by the government without anyone's consent, so for all I care, it's completely ethical and even profitable for private police to get rid of them, as no one tolerates niggers, not even leftists.

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 No.104507

>>98060

Have been for a least a couple hundred years, yeah. The US of A is a white country, pal. That's how it was defined.

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 No.104709

>>104507

whiteness is a race not a nation

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