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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.103265

Why is the wikipedia page for austrian economics such a shitshow. It literally says that Austrian economists dont use math wtf.

I propose we fix it.

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 No.103267

Natalia Garibotto

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 No.103268

You can try to fix it if you really want. Chances are you'll fail, and if you don't you will have passed onto into an abyss from which no one returns.

There are some properties of wikis in general and Wikipedia specifically that prevent it from easily being changed from without. For Wikipedia and all sites like it, the most active editors are generally NEETS and autists with a very high passion for a specific group of subjects. To that end, they'll have certain pages that they consider "their" pages, which they will watch like hawks, and undo any edit of which they don't approve. They have more time than you do, and care more about this seemingly petty thing than you do, so they'll probably win the edit war. If you win it, you'll have just replaced the other guy as the autist squatting on that page. This isn't too much of an issue for technical articles, as the biggest autist is usually correct and has sources to back him up, but they issues should be obvious for more politically oriented pages, or anything else that is easily misinterpreted. Of course, instead of doing an edit war you could try and get a mod to step in, but they'll generally favor the older autist since they probably have some established relationship. And that's where we see the problems with Wikipedia specifically, with the mods, rules, and admins. In addition to that incestuous relationship between older editors and the admins, Wikipedia has an extremely long set of rules and style manual, which was analyzed to be more complicated than the IRS tax code. What this means is that any given edit you make probably breaks at least one rule, so if need be the admins can always find some rules-based reason to undo your edit, or protect the page, or whatever. Ultimately, this means that only edits and editors approved by the admin community have any power, which is why Wikipedia articles tend to have a distinct leftist bent.

Austrian economics is an autistic enough subject that no one will care about your edits, so maybe it's worth a shot. If it doesn't work out, I'd suggest just porting the page over to Infogalactic.com.

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 No.103275

>>103265

There are wiki pages where actors and famous folks tried to change false information about themselves and Wikipedia banned them/reverted the changes even though they were the person it's about. Good luck.

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 No.103283

Whos the mut- >>103267 thanks fascist

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 No.103422

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>>103265

Wikipedia has an obvious Keynesian bias. Being said, I propose we expel all of the communists and homosexuals.

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 No.103426

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>>103268

>Wikipedia has an extremely long set of rules and style manual, which was analyzed to be more complicated than the IRS tax code.

I remember when they only had "source?" and "neutral POV!", and that was it. Good times. Only problem was that the question of what's noteworthy enough to be included was even more arbitrary back then.

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 No.103432

>>103268

is this thing about more complicated than IRS tax code an hyperbole or truth? The fact that I can't tell does tell a lot about wikipedia's reputation anyway.

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 No.103434

>>103432

I can't give you a link, but it's not hyperbole. A few years back someone analyzed the two sets of regulations, and found that Wikipedia's rules were a hair more complex than the tax code.

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 No.103448

Because Trump won the 2016 election and a big reason for his victory was the sort of "underground" support he had online as opposed to the traditional mainstream media of the bigger news channels or late night talk shows or celebrities or hollywood ect. So those in power who hated Trump and everything he stands for abused their power and started taking more control over the internet under whatever bullshit pretext. This means banning twitter accounts, taking people off of different services, taking down websites, deleting youtube videos and re editing wikipedia pages and then locking them.

The internet is still the wild west and the one thing no one can really control now, so its a thorn in the side of any group that wants total control and now they are trying to take it

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