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Literally fucking everybody does that. Please post something worth reading in the future.

I can't imagine what your weird ass D&D hack looks like, but I bet it's not different from the ten thousand and one others.

>>316906

Man do I love your post. I'm curious, tho, about applying it to systens I dislike.

< Pathfinder

>> Ease of play

While I'm not a fan of 1dX system, unless someone brought up an obscure rule, like how high characters can jump, we could play whole sessions without opening a book.

<< Crunch

Monk vs AM BARBARIAN vs Wizard. 'nuff said, it's a broken mess.

<< Player options

Trap options galore which can have characters down in one round encounters meant to challenge the whole group or have your character remain completely useless.

< Shadowrun

<< Ease of play

The complexity of tracking wound penalties, recoil, range, visibility, upgrades, implants, wind force, spread, ammo type and burst fire modifiers GUARANTEES no roll you'll ever make will both take under 2 minutes and be accurate.

>> Crunch

Curiously not so unbalanced. For a game this complex, very few characters will end up not contributing at all, and most who will probably were made thay way on purpose. The decking shit should be NPC work tho. Plus the lore is pretty good.

>> Player Options

Varied. Significant. Often, even without perusing the very complex rule set, you end up with a viable character. Exception duly noted of Aspected Mages. Also, reagents, foci and programs are a bit too obscure.

Huh. Seems to me that there's a degree aspect that's important to denote with your theory.

> A game designer might wish to be okay in all 3 aspects rather than awesome in two and terrible in one.

>>419128

1. Tracking Fatigue per round is going to be tedious and will be forgotten if not at every round.

2. I expect a character at 0 hp becomes unconscious / dying. If he is, what is the point of adding a single point? Might as well max him out.

3. Even with DR, seasoned heroes with a single hit die fighting in a system that uses no bell curve and thus extremely fickle seems like prone to frequent, unwanted and inevitable character deaths.

May I suggest you take a look at the Epic 6 rule set for D&D 3.5? I made a variation for Star Wars saga, otherwise another horrible d20 game, and it worked excellently, avoiding HP bloats while still giving the feeling of progress.

4. Why use d6 for initiative? As much as I hate d20, unless you want modifiers to matter a lot, granularity and the lack of a bell curve seems desirable in that instance, the thing d20 is actually suited best to do.

Working on a homebrew D&D system that is a mashup of 3.5e, 5e, and a bit of Pathfinder. All set in a homebrew setting called "Red Tide". It utilizes the simplicity of advantage from 5e, while keeping the3.5e multi-classing options. Characters get stat boosts based on the races and classes they choose. I have created a spell resistance system, created 2 new classes, the Shaman and the Dread Knight. I am hoping to start playing here in the next month. Maybe after it is all done ill make a link available to those that are interested.

>>416700

>>416701

I know you've gone a long time without a reply, but this post caught my attention (it's my first time dipping my head into this thread, or homebrewing in general). Initially I was opposed to your idea on principle, but after some consideration, I think it has potential if you pair it with other mechanics.

Broadly speaking, this seems like the kind of dice system that encourages players to revel in minutiae, but without being simulationist, and you should be proud of doing what I previously would have thought to be impossible. Thus, as you noted in one of your drawback points, how do you make this system engaging within the context of a larger TTRPG? I think the solution may be to take a more generic approach to the larger details: instead of doing full prep, you could measure story progress in "narrative units" that allow you to advance towards a conclusion, or move away from it depending on your successes and failures within a specific situation.

There were some Dungeon Generator and Adventure Generator-style PDFs in the share thread a while ago. I'm not sure if I saved them, but that's what I'm imagining would pair well: the party can focus on the simple stuff in terms of slashing monsters and the larger story beats are automatically generated. Perhaps the party's progress within the story could be its own object, and the more the party succeeds at minor tasks, the higher its modifiers are: when you need to advance the story, you roll and do something appropriate. There was one particular system that used this style of story progression, and the players and Big Bad all had generic names to better facilitate it (The Evil, The Barbarian, The Hunter, etc.) I think the name was Mythic or something. It's bugging me that I can't recall it.

Anyway, that's my view on the system you've created. If I were to make one system change, I might reduce it from a three-roll system to a two-roll system. I prefer simpler mechanics in general, I think having one roll to determine success/failure and one rollPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>416642

Don't you LARP as french all the time?

>>416646

no one larps as french

>>419342

The only people who Larp as French are the French themselves.

And they do it so they can be smug.

>>424444

Yes, a gimmick variant class that's fun to look at but gets old really quick.

>>424433

>main class sould [sic] depend on random effects

Nope, that's not what I suggested. My point was that the possible downside (and upside) of alchemy was simulated in some way in ADD. They could try to simulate it in another way, such as you can only feed two alchemist potions to a character within a day without repercussions. You might give them more, but there will be side effects, be they random or not. Maybe they would reduce an ability for a day, increase aggression, create mutations, give them a boner that won't go away...

I'd like to see some randomness though to make the player get tempted to gamble and give the possibility of positive effects, such a side effect might raise strength by 6 but lower intelligence by 2. I suppose the effects shouldn't be too extreme, unless you feed them several excess potions. No your colon explodes drenching everyone with shit in a 60 feet radius.

Alchemy should at least include the science of experimentation in some manner.

>>424444

Psykers in Dark Heresy also have a potentially dangerous and random downside to them.

>>424470

That actually makes a lot of sense. Don't give alchemists spell slots, just a limit on the number of potions someone may drink at once.

>>424470

>Psykers in Dark Heresy also have a potentially dangerous and random downside to them.

And people only put up with them because there are no dependable magic options.

>>424432

rather than being a specialized chemist, the alchemist class is a codification of the D&D 3.5e rogue build known as the flask rogue

they added a form of spellcasting (extracts) that focuses on personal buffs and spell effects that center on or originate from the caster (such as fire breath). Compounding this with mutagens makes a tank mage and daily bombs mitigates the reliance on purchased acid and other splash weapon

because the extracts are intended to center on the self, they added the inability for anyone but the alchemist to ingest them, the reason given being about each alchemist tuning their extracts to their own physiology and needing to take a discovery to make a generic version

Eh, I wouldn't agree with his statement, unless we were talking about a Paladin (or other angelic being). Torturing a paladin is giving him another reason to kick your ass when he gets out of the situation he's in.

The easy way to get around that, is the fact that you would just have to threaten someone else, and only the most extreme of circumstances would alleviate his code to prevent harm (either by the fact that letting information go would create even more harm)

Compared to, an enslaved gremlin creature, goblin or kobold, take your pick... there is not the same amount of conviction, especially for creatures who come from a society where they are at best second class citizens under much stronger baddies.

You could even get a demon/devil to squeal with cold iron/silver, and some holy water applied to the face

Assuming everyone undergoing torture is a trained spy who has information they're willing to sacrifice everything for to keep it out of your hands isn't how things work. Even before we get into the moral argument.

>>417256

>can’t make a counterpoint without muttspam

>>>/intl/

>>417256

>Truncated citation and trying to pass ancient "wisdom" for truth.

You want to play?

>Quaestioni fidem non semper nec tamen numquam habendam constitutionibus declaratur: etenim res est fragilis et periculosa et quae veritatem fallat.

"Our constitutions (laws) states, that faith in interrogations should neither be given nor discarded: indeed those are fragile and dangerous and can fail [to reveal] the truth."

>Nam plerique patientia sive duritia tormentorum ita tormenta contemnunt, ut exprimi eis veritas nullo modo possit:

Some obstinate by patience or toughened by torment [of life] hold torture in contempt, and it is not possible to make them tell the truth:

>alii tanta sunt impatientia, ut quodvis mentiri quam pati tormenta velint:

others are so impatient they will lie to spare themselves the slightest torture:

>ita fit, ut etiam vario modo fateantur, ut non tantum se, verum etiam alios criminentur.

and thus will change their words, implicating themselves, but others as well in crimes.

"Our laws states, that faith in interrogations should neither be given nor discarded: indeed those are fragile and dangerous and can fail to reveal the truth. Some obstinate by patience or toughened by the torments of life hold torture in contempt, and it is not possible to make them tell the truth. Others are so impatient they will lie to spare themselves the slightest torture: and thus will change their words, implicating themselves, but others as well in crimes."

So basically all he's saying is not to take criminals at their words and in a legal context that people shouldn't be condemned only by declarations.

Such great wisdom.

Thank you, navarchus obvius.

>>411960

Torture is mostly used in democratic countries following rule of law to obtain admissions of guilt for kangaroo courts that don't require factual evidence, because by the time you're done pulling all man's fingernails he's ready to confess he eats children after raping them and have personally gassed 5 billion innocent people out of sheer hatred.

There was a book written by a british jew where he boasted about getting his revenge on a german soldier and used torture to obtain a confession for nuremberg trials, I forgot its title and author's name, he was a british officer of a notable rank, Major?

>>412552

Otherwise "radicalization" won't be a problem.

>>416598

>A dragon settles in a cave, knowing that they'll have an army of boy and girl living fleshlights

>>415516

That third pic would be better if she had a normal haircut.

>>416619

Truly, dragons are the most degenerate

>>424508

Eh, more like they're the very top of the foodchain, creatures living on the top of power, with anything they desire at their grasp.

It's hardly a surprise that they indulge themselves. If they want something, they need simply to take it, after all.

>>411279

>balking at beans

>in a chili recipe

Excuse you.

Anyway, made some delicious stuff in the past couple days with my cousin, being beef bolognese and cuban pork over beans and rice. Anyone want the recipes?

>>413329

>Anyone want the recipes?

Do you really have to ask?

>>413329

You don't need to ask permission to post things here.

>>423676

He is most likely a redditor. It feels weird knowing that this is the state half/tg/ is in.

Other than the things that anons mentioned the greentext's style and his word choices are both atrocious even if the faggot lurked two more years it wouldn't be enough.

The Japan book in the trove is missing page 90.

Has anyone tried any of the ideas people have come up with for rebalancing swing and thrust damage? I like the concept but I doubt I'll be in a position to rejigger any rules in my games for a while yet, so I'm looking for opinions from adventurous GMs/players.

<Langsdorf theory

>Give swing +1 every two levels of ST, like thrust

<Douglas Cole theory

>Give pointed, thrusting weapons a (2) armour divisor

<Kromm theory (KYOS)

>Rebalance ST completely around a log scale and make swing = thr+2, like Langsdorf but more complicated/mathematically consistent

>>420642

Depends on the version of the RPG you're using.

d6; You go all Jedi or No Jedi. You can allow force sensitive nonjedi, but you can't let them hve the same power suites.

d20 OCR/RCR; You ban certain powers but overall, as long as they're different specialties it's fine.

d20 SWSE; You ban the "force replaces skills" powers, and tell your Jedi player to not be a spotlight hogging dick. Or you ban the Jedi class.

EotE ... fuck if I know? Does it even support Jedi yet?

>>424368

> EotE

Yes and no. It's technically another game of the series. That would be like asking if Vampire: The Masquerade supported Werewolves.

> d20 SWSE

May I ask that you take a look at my pdf and comment on my set of houserules?

>>424383

>May I ask that you take a look at my pdf and comment on my set of houserules?

Sorry bro, but I can't. The mission statement of making SWSE into an E6 game sickens me. If you want to draw back the power curve of a d20 game, just play a different system. Like the original SWd6.

>>424388

> The mission statement of making SWSE into an E6 game sickens me.

Huh? That's nothing: I also made it into a d20 / 2d10 / (3d6+1), player's choice each roll. But fair enough.

>>423996

How bout crustaceans?

The local surface river systems are heavy with oversized crayfish, and I had the modern settlement employing those as a food source.

Massive stone aquifers full of big fat crayfish... and giant blind catfish?... And a subsequent ecology of lesser crustaceans/arthropods (giant subterranean isopods)?

>>424013

>Giant flightless bats

Like nutria.

>normal sized bats

Still a crunchy snack on the grill

>Wētā

I like those as companion animals.

>>423370

> Produce is cheaper by volume since it takes less to feed a family of dwarves

Wouldn't food be more expensive per volume since less would be produced per capita? Also being underground I would imagine food isn't as abundant as above ground, even accounting for dwarven agriculture, fishing, hunting and gathering.

> Calender's are neither solar nor lunar, time is measured by a candle-clock burning at a known fixed rate, precise dates and times are kept by the civil/religious magistrates who sound alarms at relevant intervals (first quarter, half-candle, third-quarter, new candle) alarms probably aren't sounded during the "sleep" period. The length or even existence of weeks/months are entirely civil/liturgical and are unrelated to seasons and astronomy.

Perhaps underground seasons could be based on various underground phenomena, like having a wet season/dry season cycle based on when snow melts on the surface and underground rivers swell each year, or if part of the year has more earthquakes/tremors than usual.

Also since there is no sun it would be fun to play with the sleep cycle, like having a 16 or 40 hour day/night cycle. You could also have multiple sleep cycles going simultaneously: dwarves have a 16 hour work day, they work 8 hours, sleep 4 hours and have 4 hours to themselves. In addition there a 4 'shifts' each dwarf belongs to based on the family they were born into, so that at any given hour 50% of the population is at work, 25% is asleep and 25% is off work.

> Cemeteries do not exist instead family estates build a tomb/catacomb attached to their main property/structure. The "landless" poor or those otherwise without families to receive their body are dumped into wherever waste is normally deposited.

I feel like usable organic material would be at a premium so deep underground because due to the lack of sunlight there would be no photosynthesis to replenish nutrients in the soil or whatever growth medium they use, bodies would probably be composted or cremated and used as fertilizer in some way, perhaps thrown into an underground lake or pond to feed a population of subterranean fish and crustaceaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>424013

>>424081

Bush meat is a really good way to get seriously ill, anons.

>>423912

Thanks for this. Got some of my juices flowing. Creative juices. Not sexual juices.

>>417621

>>417622

gear was reworked pretty hard in 5e from 4e, skinlink for instance

>>422111

or was it needing to be on wireless for smartlink to give dice in 5e

>>422176

>>knight-errant hot pursuit in hot pursuit

it's a shame i already used that gif in that post

Has anyone got a complete download for 4th ed? really don't want to get it piecemeal from the t

>>421713

Yes to both. Only time I've ever gotten anything for piracy, too.

>>423785

level eater still banned so white cards are still dead rip