/tg/ - Traditional Games

>>316397

> Tell me, what are you working on?

Homebrew OSR. It's been mostly my houserules and such, so I didn't think to do it before. But after reading more other OSRs and seeing how similar a lot are to each other, I realized that the large amount of similarity and cross-system usage was pretty much the name of the game anyways.

> Where are you stuck?

Words. Design is done, but holy shit there is a lot of writing involved. Especially now that I've finally started moving onto the "fluff" stage.

> Have you playtested anything yet?

Some but not all. Most has been playtested in other systems, obviously. I'm not too worried though, because - let's be frank - balance and such are a meme to begin with.

>>316412

>Words.

I know that honey nut feelio. I sometimes open an old project to see if I can reignite the spark of creativity and then all I end up doing is tweaking wording and random sentences and getting jack shit done.

Currently designing a game for a setting I've worked on for a long time.

Attributes and skills represented by dice, with specific trappings with the skills and other character factors represented by positive or negative bonuses. All characters also have Fortune and Misfortune scores, represented by a dice rank.

Dice ranks scale: 1d2,1d4,1d6,1d8, with anything at a d10 or beyond legendary, hard to obtain and usually it's through magic.

Designed to be small numbers game. Dice pools feature both positive dice and negative dice on each roll. When making a roll, PC's are required to roll at least one positive and one negative die in their pool. Max base dice pool for a roll is 3, with up to 1 positive and 1 negative bonus dice based on circumstances or abilities.

This means the maximum number of dice ever rolled by a PC on a given roll is 5.

What do you guys think about the presence of both positive and negative dice on a given roll?

>>317141

That just sounds like Savage Worlds

>>316412

This guy. I realized what was holding me back was the formatting. I was trying to keep something similar to the BECMI format, which I did because just one big sheet was a pain. I've switched my format to something closer to the OG "booklet" style with small pages, and it's a lot easier on the eye. Making good progress now.

>>316397

I'm thinking in a tabletop/card game of survival inspired in The Thing of Jonh Carpenter and also in a roleplay game set in a postapocalyptical world about body horror and mutations that someone could associate with text erotic furry shit but without any furry crap nor sex.

The card game is more advanced in the planning, just still figuring out what cards include for the players to save themselves, but I have no idea how to make a game where you can make your character progress normally without mutations but also you can get random crazy mutations if you don't cook properly your food.

>>317180

What I'm thinking is mostly an almost autistic genetic system where people can get mutations regarding the creature they eat.

Imagine that you eat, for example, a giant chicken. First you roll for the body part you get from the beast, be is the beak head, the skin, the wings or something else. Then you roll where that mutation happens, so you can get a chicken head in your right arm or replace your leg with a wing. THEN you roll a compatibility roll, depending of how many mutations you have and the animal kingdom the mutation is related to, if you don't turn into a Cronenberg abomination that basically means auto death.

It would be a game about harvesting genetics to turn into a better abomination or risk it and eat to get a random mutation that might fuck you over or help you.

I was thinking in a d100 system. Would a generic system work for the idea?

>>317182

You would have to define and describe every unique body part and effect of every creature and plant that exists as well as many more generic options. That makes the idea sort of impractically complicated to write and also unwieldy for players to learn, if its all random then they have few to no options to influence what happens to their characters which sounds more frustrating than entertaining. You could plug the idea into pretty much any system, what you want to do doesn't have any specific components that warrant a unique base system because its top level. You could put it in 4E if you wanted, doesn't matter.

If I was going to write it I would make it system generic and just write out effects without any mechanics as a giant table so that it can be ported over to any system but you describe it as a game in of itself so I hope you have more ideas than that to flesh it out.

>>317186

WEll, I was thinking that the mutations are somewhat unique the creature, some being just copies of regular animals and others being fusions of different genetics into one.

Mutations are, basically, loot that can help or fuck them, every one unique depending of the GM.

>>317141

>Designed to be small numbers game.

I will always appreciate a game that understands the importance of small numbers.. But that's more of a thing that just tickles my 'tism.

>Dice pools feature both positive dice and negative dice on each roll.

I've played a couple games that, and the crux of a mechanic like this is for the mechanic to be semi-optional, but still tempting to use.

One game, an early build of the new Spycraft edition. It used a sort of communal action dice mechanic, where every action die used was added to a pool which was eventually cashed in for different rewards and bonuses. The twist was that there were good and bad action dice. Bad action dice came from the GM, who could spend them on different narrative twists and bonuses (kind of like FC's campaign quality mechanics) but the GM could also tempt the players with them, making different deals. Do a thing, get more action dice to boost your rolls, but each GM action die rolled goes to its own pool, which can eventually build to the GM getting to declare really bad shit happens.

The other game, I don't remember as clearly, but it had a sort of dice betting system where you had a limited pool of dice for the whole session, and eventually you would be forced to use dice that would potentially sour the outcome.

Either way, it's a potentially neat mechanic.

>>317191

>finite dice that eventually turn bad

Don't Rest Your Head

>>317200

It was called Samsara, and it was a game being playtested by a friend of the designer. It was about being India's MIB who dealt with the fucked up supernatural creatures of Hindu lore. Not quite like DRYH

>>317186

>>317188

Ok, now I slept more I can describe well what I had in mind.

The game is about surviving in a world where some sort of unknown alien agent infected all the world and it has the property of mimicing any DNA it infected and replicate it over new hosts, but it doesn't detect well where the replicated DNA should be deposit to start a mutation, so it can mutate any body part trying to replicate the DNA it asimilated, sometimes making the mistake of making an arm where a leg is supposed to be, or even a tongue if you aren't careful. In a few centuries the world is filled with horrible chimeras and creatures that go beyond what genetics can do.

The system I want to use is a mixture of regular RPG mechanics that use XP like usual and also some sort of narrative took to play with the genetics. The DM would be the one deciding what powers the players get from the absorbed DNA. Do you get feathers? you might have extra isolation against cold. Do you get hollow bones? you get weaker but are much more agile. Things like that.

Of course, it might seen like you should get mutations to survive in the game, but I people can use technology to survive, building guns, vehicles or even primitive mecha to fight giantic monsters.

You can also refine samples of infested DNA to make them mutate someone in a particular way. For example refine bear claws to mutate the right arm in the right way instead of getting a bear head in your dick if you just eat bear meat raw.

The cooking skill also would play a hard role in the game. People need to cook a lot the food not to get undesired mutations, but also they need to eat not charred food for their health and their mood. It is a postapocalyptic world, so people doesn't have as many tools as the modern world had, but the safest thing you could eat are vegetables.

Another mechanic I wanted to include in the game are DNA hybridation. Let say you eat two different DNA samples from different sources. Normally, the DNA consumed just overwrite the old DNA member or turn the limb into a Cronenberg mass of body horror flesh, but there are some little chances where both DNA samples fuse and create something unique. Lets say you have a wing in your right arm, then you eat something with hard scales like a reptile or a pangolin. If both DNA samples fuse, they might turn the wing into a hard flexible shield that can still be used to glide.

>>317461

> 1

I will not use Google. The only site I will ever use for upload is Mega. I do not use Microsoft Office, either, but LibreOffice. Graphic design is meaningless, since I have no plan of hiring an artist.

> 2

It's OSR, and it piggybacks heavily off of older system. Not much work to it, especially since it's taken from my houserules and notes. Most of the classes fit on a single 8.5"x5.5" sheet of paper, not counting spells for casters. Some like Paladin take a bit more. ESPer and Monk are the only "fucking shit" classes because of the customization in abilities. The reason for the number of classes comes principally from separate XP progression.

> 3

It's not innovative in the sense that nearly everything done has been done by other systems, but it's my composite houserules. It's not for the sake of money, but personal ease of having all of my notes put together, including things that I didn't write down because I've internalized them as "how the game is run". If it stands out at all, it's in the fact that since the OSR as a whole has focused heavily on AD&D and the "heroic vs superheroic" and all of that crap, there's been a lot less focus on the Blackmoor and Arduin sides of old-school gaming, which is where my focus is aimed.

>>319609

Autism a component of it. Certainly necessary to go through the trouble numerating and articulating a lot of really abstract shit, but doing it just because your autism compels you to finish a project doesn't quite justify making a shitty homebrew that could either be handled better by another, existing game, either way.

I think the deciding factor comes down to theme. More specifically, the kind of gameplay experience that is trying to be evoked with the mechanics. Like trying to make everything into D&D for instance.. Not every setting works a class system where players level up to get a strict list of powers and abilities. Not every type of game works with tedious methodical combat where you just roll to attack over and over. Certain styles of play can take priority and that means you either need an existing system that can handle those interactions with ease and satisfying complexity, or you need to make something that is tailored to that kind of experience, meaning your mechanics need to be informed by your theme.

What are all the important things that a homebrew system needs to make sure to cover?

What are the things that inexperienced writers most often forget or overlook when making a system?

>>320274

> What are all the important things that a homebrew system needs to make sure to cover?

Playable stand-alone or otherwise easily integrated into other systems.

> What are the things that inexperienced writers most often forget or overlook when making a system?

Fun.

Haven't had time to really work on my RPG system lately because of IRL stuff, but I did shit out a nomic-like game called "By the Rules". Dunno if /tg/ is interested in that kinda thing.

>>320451

Bring it out, faggot, then we'll see.

>>320456

Rules for playing "By the Rules":

Players can enact a rule by casually mentioning it, along with something like "according to the rules", "it's in the rules", "don't you know the rules", etc.

If any players retort with "no it isn't" or something similar, then the players must determine whether or not it's a rule, which may require making a rule. Retorts may come with a counter-rule, or otherwise be used to introduce a rule. Players are encouraged to logically back-up their retorts, appealing to the functionality of the game rather than explicitly appealing to the players. A declaration cannot be retorted after it has legally influenced the game.

Rules should be treated as though they were always part of the rulebook. Failure to do so, such as treating rules like a pitch or idea, results in automatic rejection. It is important to pretend the rules aren't being made up on the fly, even though they are. Rules can, however, acknowledge that the game involves making up rules.

Passed rules must be added to the rulebook. Rejected rules go in the blacklist, meaning they cannot be proposed again.

Rules cannot contradict existing rules, including the rules in this post. Rules are not retroactively effective unless indicated by the declaration. Rules are assumed to apply fairly to all players in function, but not always result, and therefore may not directly target specific players.

It is possible for the players to go along with something that isn't a "rule", as long as it isn't rejected with a rule. If the players seem to mostly agree with a non-rule, with a minority not taking part, it is recommended that the resistance be squashed by making it a rule.

The goal is to be among the winning players of the game, which cannot exceed half the total group. If the victory condition is met by more than half the players, then the game isn't over.

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Strategic advice (deliberately kept vague):

- Players should establish a method of passing/rejecting rules early on, before a conflict of interest is too strong.

- It might be useful to make finite measures of players' ability to declare and retort, to mitigate stalemates.

- Creating an in-world for the game can be useful in a variety of mysterious ways.

- It may be necessary to use common interests to further personal goals.

- There will need to be a victory condition in order for the game to conclude, and it will need to be passed.

What are some good resources to go read on combinatorics and the mathematics behind making card games? I understand I'm no Richard Garfield and probably never will be, but knowing even a little of the math is better than knowing nothing.

well i have an idea for a hotwheels based homebrew

>>316397

This thread reminded me of the game I left unfinished.

Can somebody who knows about material science and weapon science help me? I need some information for a homebrew module about metallurgy.

Do swords need to be elastic? I know they need to have a high yield strength so they don't bend quickly, but should they be deforming (elastically) significantly before they reach their yield point?

What about the same question for armor?

Does malleability play any significant part in the effectiveness of a weapon, or is it more of just a manufacturer-side issue?

>>321863

Only thing I can really tell you is that practice swords tend to be flexible towards the tip for safety reasons, but real swords were more rigid. Couldn't really get into the material science or metallurgy aspect though.

>>321863

Swords and bladed weapons in general need enough flex that they won't break or be yanked out of the users hands when they become stuck in something (e.g. a shield). For armor, stronger is obviously better, but they should fail by crumpling rather than shattering. Disclaimer: I am not an expert

>>321897

The part about breaking sounds more like a yield strength thing, right? Like between two materials that take the same amount of force to bend, it doesn't matter if one bends twice as much before it gets to that point because the force is the same, right?

>>321899

Yes. Assuming the same yield strength, a more flexible sword will be easier to control in the case where it becomes stuck because it is not rigid and the impulse would be lower

If I dump my PDF will anyone look at it? It's a town/city building RPG, kinda low-fantasy-ish but not really. Undead-filled world, basically a fantasy zombie apocalypse and you are rebuilding a town in it.

>>322209

When you say "city building rpg" are you talking more like State of Decay or Banished?

>>322214

More like Banished.

>>329252

>Tell me, teej, what have you been working on?

Map and some custom monsters, don't know what system I'll use though.

<what's the map about?

A mining base for little /tg/ project I have in mind, I'll post it here when I'm done but if you've ever played SS13 and played shaft miner on the lava planet I'm trying to create that feel.

>>329290

>one superpowered enemy against a swarm of smaller enemies

Sounds like OGRE in a way.

What are your thoughts on a system that split Dexterity and Agility into two different stats. Do you think it would potentially be confusing for the player or is that likely to be a non-issue?

What I had in mind would use Dexterity for things involving the character's skill (hit rolls, blocking attacks) and Agility for things involving the character's speed (initiative, dodging attacks rolls). Most systems tend to have a single stat covering both areas usually named one or the other, so I thought it'd be worth getting an opinion.

>>329297

You're essentially looking at Gross Coordination (bodily movement) and Fine Coordination (Hand-eye, precision movement) which are pretty distinctly different things. Reacting and dodging are more of a Reflexes thing, and if you want to be semi-realistic, then speed is a matter of muscle more than anything else.

>>329299

>and if you want to be semi-realistic, then speed is a matter of muscle more than anything else.

It's not a huge concern of mine, but for the sake of argument, I'd say any physical stat (as opposed to mental or social of course) would fall under the umbrella of muscles and thus agility would be an appropriate stat to use for speedy things.

>>329389

I see it as a balance issue - to keep one stat from offering too much on its own. I'm not sure how "how the nervous system works" has anything to do with it.

Looking at combat alone, with what I have in mind, Agility would cover dodge rolls, initiative, and a bonus to damage dealt with ranged weaponry. Dexterity would cover to-hit rolls with any sort of weapon, and rolls to block or parry incoming attacks. My concern with combining the two is that it offers too much. Any non-magic character would put everything into that stat and be set.

>>316397

I am brainstorming a set of house rules that bring more consequences to actions in general. Too many complaints that 3.X/Pathfinder favors casters too much, yet they balance out at level ~15. I sense an opportunity to flesh out magic wielding to make it a function of experience and exertion, with fun boons and backfires being possible. In order to prevent overbalancing in favor of martial classes, critical hit/fumble tools + massive damage rule can be implemented. If magicas have to think twice before firing from both barrels, so do martials.

Off the top of my head, two big schisms of magic schools can be used to create boons/backfires: Arcana and Divination.

Arcana is about harnessing the forces of the universe, but bending the universe can cause it to bend back. So all Arcana spells (Evocation, Enchantment, Transmutation, and Necromancy) have a chance to go Wild, leading to unforseen consequences based on how far from the DC the spell slinger landed.

Borrowing from WoD, Divination relates to the metaphysical state of things. Forcing yourself too far (regardless of alignment) outside of a level-scaling comfort zone can cause Insanity. The focus of Insanity's boon is speed and consistency of use. If you have to teleport or heal and you already have Insanity built up, that spell is for that instant becomes more powerful, but future spells have increased DCs. If you go too far too fast you will go insane, effectively a PK (and the GM has a new toy.)

>>329426

The nervous system is what controls your body, so how it works would be an important thing to know if you were trying to simulate something like a realistic gaming system.

>>329290

Sounds like it could be fun. I especially like the sounds of the Kaiju having specific secret objectives that it is trying to fulfill that go beyond just "wreck the city". Things like Gamera eating fire or MUTOs making a nest of eggs or King Kong looking for a specific lady to kidnap all come to mind.

My suggestion would be to make that part of the game mirrored by hidden objectives for the human player. Lots of kaiju movies have the human scientists developing some sort of secret anti-kaiju weapon that may or may not work, such as the Oxygen Destroyer in the original Godzilla. Some objectives could be "protect this specific building where the scientists are developing the bomb" it gives the Kaiju player an equally strategic game of trying to guess their opponent's motives and select the RIGHT building to smash.

Aside from a super-science weapon, human objectives could also be ideas like finding the twin fairies from Mothra to sing the kaiju back to sleep, or summoning an Ultraman type character to fight the kaiju toe to toe.

One of the elements (wood) in my magic system has the quirk that it can do anything, but has to "cheat" to do it. An example are that it can heal (normally exclusive to water), but it does it by giving the target regeneration instead of directly healing them. Its other unique thing is shape shifting living things and their remains.

Any suggestion for "cheating" in effects?

I’m toying with the idea of a stripped-down CoC/BRP variation for something space opera related.

6 main stats: Strength, Endurance, Dexterity, Wits, Willpower and Charisma. Roll 3d6 and multiply by 5 to get a percentage score. Reroll if below 6

I’ve thrown out skills in favour of Careers, inspired by Barbarians of Lemuria. Pick 4 Careers. Each starts at 50% and adjust accordingly. Can’t go lower than 20% or higher than 80%

Next you pick 4 traits, which are freeform descriptors. Basically, if they are relevant to the roll, you can roll twice and take the better result.

Secondary stats. Health is the original 3d6 roll for Endurance. Sanity is equal to Willpower percentage.

For languages, character starts with a native language and spends points equal to his WIT score on new languages (50% WIT = 30% Mandarin, 20% Russian). Certain careers can give additional points to spend.

Weapon Proficiencies: All characters start with 35% Melee (knives, fists), 25% Small Arms (Handguns, Shotguns, Sports Rifles), 20% Automatics (SMGs, Assault Rifles) and 0% Heavy (LMGs, Rocket Launchers). Take the percentage of your highest combat-oriented career for points and divide them over the categories (50% Mercenary = 45% Melee, 55% Small Arms, 30% Automatics). Take base numbers if you have no relevant career.

Sample Character:

STR: 55% END: 55% DEX :40% WIT: 65% WIL: 60% CHA: 45%

Careers: Mercenary 60%, Spacer 55%, Pilot 45%, 40% Explorer

Traits: Born on a Desert Planet, War Veteran, Intimidating Tattoos, Mean Left Hook

Health: 11 Sanity: 60 Languages: English (own language), 40% Spacer Creole, 25% Mandarin

Weapon Proficiencies: 45% Melee, 45% Small Arms, 50% Automatics, 0% Heavy Weapons

>>347203

Forgot to mention this archetype is Ment for d&d 5e

>>355803

Doesn't sound fun.

>>355803

Golden Sky Stories has no combat and whole Ryuutama has combat, it's in a secondary or sometimes tertiary priority. Japan seems to do a lot of games where Combat isn't the primary mechanic.

The trick when removing combat from the center stage of a game is to have some other variety of conflict to take its place. Conflict is the center of most stories. Remove it, remove the chance to fail or the consequences for being unable to complete something, and you're left with.. well, it's more like a freeform RP. It's not bad, but it's less of a game and more of an acting/writing exercise then.

I've made my world and all the characters but I can't come up with a campaign.

Life is pain.

>>356319

Just steal something from a movie/book/television show/video game and give it a twist anon. Hell just setting it in your world should be twist enough, players love being put in familiar situations (and if it's not familiar you look like a genius).

>>356321

You're right, I'll try and find a couple things to snatch and mix together.

>>329297

Was done (AD&D Player's Options, Wizardry), advantages are not obvious.

Separate attack stat (like in D&D). Or better also split melee and ranged attack (like in WHF and 40k RP).

Also, turn dodge and initiative into skills, so that they can be adjusted separately and improved separately (and easier).

What's the point of splitting anything else?

>>356302

After some drafting I ended up with a sum of classes so now this question is more to the point: Is 27 classes a good number to start with for a class based game? Mind you this includes prestige classes.

>>357231

Depends on what those classes do.

The rule I maintain with classes is that they all need to play differently from each other. If everyone at the table is a different class, they should have somewhat different goals, different strengths, and different weaknesses. I also like to make it so every ability score is useful to every class - a Wizard doesn't get as much use from STR as a Fighter, and gets more out of INT, but both should still find it better to have a higher score than not; i.e. if you ran a point buy system, a line of 13s should have utility on par with a line of 11s and an 18.

So the question I'd have is: Are any of those classes redundant from the perspective of playstyle?

>>357247

One of the first things I did when designing all the classes was focus each one on a specific skill so I'd say they each serve their own purpose. Obviously combat classes often focus on the same stats, but each one focuses it's skills on a different weapon or maybe different additional skills (example: the Master of Arms focuses on the same three stats as the Martial Artists, but martial artists are focused on just close combat with other skills to aid them in non-combat areas, where as the master of arms has multiple weapons skills as his focus, etc.) Closest overlaps still clearly serve a different purpose, for example I have a Face class which can later specialize into a Diplomat or Commander class. Commander focuses on giving bonuses to allies in combat, diplomat focuses on persuading and negotiating, though both can do bits of what the other does it's not with the same level of success. Also from the previous example I could argue the Face class is also viable as it can run mixed better than either specialization can.

Good advice, I'll look through the rest of my classes and see if I find any slackers.

>>357274

The big thing to ask is whether or not a player could simply play the same way with the same class. For instance, consider Skyrim - Mage's Guild? Thieves Guild? Dark Brotherhood? No matter which you pick, you can hack and slash through with a sword and heavy armor. On the other hand, a game with proper classes used properly will bind in what you can do. Faggots call this restriction, people with common sense call it replayability.

Another factor to consider, when designing a party-based game especially, is that every class can do something that nobody else can do. This is especially good with multi-player, because it means that everyone gets a chance to shine. Nobody likes a game like 3E where the Wizard can do everything and everyone else can do some things. Nobody likes a game like 4E where everyone can do everything. People want to get the spot-light, at least some of the time.

>>316397

Designing a hyper-christian Golden sky stories ripoff cause I'm a huge christfag

>Rework large scores of my game several times over

>Same asshole in the group is always negative and critical about everything

I'm friendly with him but god if it doesn't get old. He's sort of on his last chance.

>>359420

I wanna echo what >>359493 said but wanna add that having a more complicated optional mechanic may piss off players who don't use it as it bogs down the game.

>>359420

The functionality of your game is the most critical aspect, it is first and foremost a game after all and it is secondarily a simulation. You are not aiming to create realism, you are aiming to create a game that includes enough realism for players to have an easier time roleplaying within it. If you wanted to make a simulator then you probably started in the wrong place, if you wanted to make a game then things being 'unrealistic' is part and parcel with the whole 'game' bit. You do your best to wave away kinks and disconnects but some is expected.

>>359488

I had one of these for a few years and it really put a damper on my creative output. Sometimes you can sort it out by pulling them aside and saying "hey you're being super negative," but sometimes it's some deep-seated thing that's entirely in their head and you can't do much about it. I guess you could escalate along the lines of "FYI you're negative" -> "you're not obligated to come to my playtests if you don't like them" -> "please stop being so negative at playtests or stop coming"

>>359420

Expectation management helps a lot in game design, and it's critical in RPGs because people come into them with so much baggage. "Unrealistic" is a common way of expressing a "doesn't mesh with the preconceived notions I brought to the table" complaint. (Also reality is unrealistic; articulated plate armor was contemporaneous with guns.)

One way to handle expectation management is to reference other media. Your thing sounds like Final Fantasy or a lot of anime (I'm sure you can pick a more accurate reference point), so you should calibrate your "realistic" relative to that. If the logical conclusion of your mechanics doesn't end up looking like the world you're emulating, it's unrealistic to that world.

Completely rebuilding combat in my system, looking for reactions and thoughts.

Combat proceeds through a fixed set of phases (ambush, ranged, melee, close). Everyone gets one action in each phase, and barring special abilities, extenuating circumstances, or retreat, the next phase is the next on the list. During each phase, everyone in the party with initiative gets their action (in whatever order they like), then everyone in the other party.

Initiative - All members of both parties make opposed skill checks against whoever is on watch for the other party to see if they get to ambush. The party with fewer people who failed this check gets initiative (ties to the player party).

Ambush - Only people who passed the check in the initiative phase get an action. You may only use ambush actions, and there are some excellent ones out there, but the only default available one is a basic ranged attack.

Ranged - You may only use ranged actions. The default ranged attack isn't very good.

Melee - You may only use melee actions. If you attack someone who hasn't went yet, they may break turn order and take their action immediately so long as it's targeting you. If you attack multiple people with one action, only one of them gets this option (opponents' choice). The default melee attack is good.

Close - You may only use close actions. The melee turn order modification is still in effect. This phase repeats if combat is somehow still going, but the default close attack is extremely deadly.

> Tell me, what are you working on?

Erotic Text RPG vidya like CoC.

>Where are you stuck?

Designing stats and combat system that is simple yet flexible.

>Have you playtested anything yet?

>>316397

Currently hacking Shadowrun (SR3R) - magic and Tolkien shit to do A-Team in space (a la Dark Matter, Killjoys, Sci-Fi channel space ruffians).

Simultaneously building char generator and hammering out rules. Wrapping up cyberware now, but stuck on Skillwires (woah, I know kung fu) as they have always been a problem. In particular how the skillwire system needs to be different/the same when applied to an optional android character type. I've already got Physical Adepts reskinned to be genetically engineered "special" characters.

After that, I need to run some simulations on ship-to-ship combat. I currently think shields may be too good, but don't want to flip too far in the other direction and make a TPK too easy.

> Strength for attack power with melee

> Constitution for HP and resistance to physical status ailments

> Perception- accuracy with fire arms, evasion to magic. Also more dialogue options.

> Agility- physical evasion, thief stuff, dodge outside of combat

> Will - psionic (same as magic in this universe) attack, when convincing someone in dialogue, resisting mental and psi ailmentd

>>364219

"dialog options"

Am i misreading the little "tg" in the URL?

>>364234

>I have to have the ability to aay and do anything and go off the rails at any time

>>364281

What, the fuck, are you talking about?

>>364281

Freedom of action is kind of one of the core concepts of tabletop roleplaying, friendo.

>>364387

Hell, he's not even talking about freedom of action, he's talking about freedom of talking. I mean, there's some actions you can't take in RPGs just by the nature of the setting (like flapping your arms and flying in a non-magic game), but having limited options for talking is next level retarded.

>>364596

Okay so I'm looking for some advice. For shits and giggles, I've decided to try my hand at 'brewing a system based Mega Man Battle Network. The big thing I realize is that a lot of it is based on purchasing chips and Navicust program, or obtaining such things from mystery data or enemies. One of the major things I want to do is lessen that kind of item dependence by attempting a 'library' system. The idea is that when you're statting out your navi, you select its 'element' which are based on the ones you would find on battlechips.(Aqua, Break, Cursor, Elec, Fire, Heal, Null, Plus, Obstacle, Sword, Wind, and Wood) Now the idea is that you get to stat out your PC's 'chip library' by distributing points to each element. Each one would be measured in MB(more on that later) and begin at 0MB except for the one that belongs to your Navi's element, which begins at 50MB. Now, the PC gets 100 MB to distribute between all categories as they see fit so long as it doesn't exceed 50MB.

So now this links in to how a player builds folders. So folders are built based on the MB budget a player will have statted out prior while following typical folder restrictions in BN(No more than 30 chips, only a certain amount of the same chip allowed depending on it's MB cost, ect…). For the moment, I'm using the chip lists of the last 4 BN games, and rounding the MB cost down to the nearest 5(minimum of 5.) So, a player with 50 in Aqua, Null, Sword can begin play with his folder looking like

=Aqua

Bub-V(20MB)x2

Bubbler(10MB)x1

=Null

Vulcan1(5MB)x5

Cannon(5MB)x5

=Sword

Longsword(25MB)x2

Or

=Aqua

AquaSword(30MB)x1

Bub-V(20MB)x1

=Null

Spreader2(15MB)x3

Cannon(5MB)x1

=Sword

Longblade(35MB)x1

Sword(5MB)x3

After expending points from their library, the player then would be able to free add any chips given out as rewards from earlier fights, mystery data, or even purchased. Now the issue I have is that I'm not sure what to do with chip codes, or if I should leave this as is for the moment and try working out character creation. I have a habit of hopping around a lot.

>>364596

>>367654

Ignore that post link.

Currently experimenting with using hidden customized cards (probably index cards) as a core mechanic. Currently got two forms of this in the works; an RPG and a political strategy game.

These aren't draw-from-the-deck systems, the cards are just to allow information to be hidden individually, whilst clearly premeditated. For example, a player might write "poisoned the wine", then after all of the characters they wish to target with it have partaken they'll reveal the card for it to take effect.

This is to prevent skilled players from always knowing the perfect move at any time, while minimizing the presence of randomized dumb-luck. Players might still get lucky/unlucky in the sense of not knowing what information is hiding, but there's a difference between luck and dumb-luck. Some cards may still incorporate simple dice rolls, however.

>>369084

This isn't the thread for that kind of thing. "Homebrew" gets misused to represent any kind of houserule or non-specifically stated idea that players come up with that isn't part of a pre-written adventure or campaign setting. In this thread, we are discussing homebrew in the context of games being wholly made by amateurs and independent designers and writers.

You can probably ask this question in the QTDDTOT, but just to give you some feedback: You're using Pathfinder and that's the source of your problems. Pathfinder is a combat game, first and foremost. It's also a poorly tweaked version of D&D 3.5, but that's for the system wars thread. Either way, you're trying to run a game about things that the system isn't built for. It doesn't do Merchant adventures well because it was built with hacking and slashing your way through HP-bloated XP sack monsters and +1 Swords. Nothing wrong with that. It just is what it is.

>>369404

Keep things simple or few people will play your game. Example: Me and my current group love Shadowrun's setting and lore, but I refuse to play later editions and I really feel 3rd is too difficult for the mostly new to tabletop group to learn, so instead we're going with simple D20 games. And that's Shadowrun with it's interesting world and long history. Keep your game simple, one way or another you'll make it complex by adding in systems to explain complex situations, keep the basics uncomplicated or you'll end up with a real mess later on. Unless you're a coder and are making video games, then do whatever insane shit you want so long as the player doesn't have to see your mess.

>>369404

Wow, and I thought my game had too much math involved in damage.

>>369463

>Me and my current group love Shadowrun's setting and lore, but I refuse to play later editions

Did you give Anarchy a try?

>>369463

>>369433

>kindergarten level subtraction is complicated

>>369404

Your post has convinced me that many posters here are stupid because they think what you describe is complex.

Ideas for why it would be bad kept popping into my head, but when I tried to do the actual analysis most of them weren't actually true.

I like the fact that it encourages having many applicable skills over hyper specialization, but I'm a bit worried it may go too far in the wrong direction. I think that may come down to who decides what gets added in.

What I mean by that is - using your example - what if a character is attempting to do an acrobatic attack? Would that mean that mean they could add both Dex and Strength to the attack in addition to skill and weapon? If so, that means it would always be desirable to do that, even if you were a klutz. 1d8/3d6/2d4 is better than 4d6/2d4.

The probabilities of the dice seem OK and it's not a huge jump, it's just a question of whether there is some cost incurred for adding lots of different dice other than trying to convince the GM to let you. Because adding even a low dice number will likely have a large effect given the high likelihood these higher-sided dice will be successes.

>>369470

Nope, I'll have to give it a go

>>369484

>implying I said that

While you're putting words in my mouth and dismissing my paragraph with one line of greentext, let me return the favor:

>implying that shifting dice based around various stats is something most people want to do

>implying people want shifting dice pools at all and that most people don't just want a simple straight forward system that lets them quickly determine the die they need and then roll it with an obvious result

>>369490

>what if a character is attempting to do an acrobatic attack? Would that mean that mean they could add both Dex and Strength to the attack in addition to skill and weapon?

Well presumably Dexterity and Strength are the same category of stat and you can't use both in one roll for free, same as how D&D normally can't stack bonuses of the same type.

>>369639

>color-coded 6-sided dice with different success ratios

In case you didn't understand that:

output [count {2..6} in 0d6] + [count {3..6} in 0d6] + [count {4..6} in 2d6] + [count {5,6} in 1d6] + [count 6 in 2d6]

Adding a die to the rightmost bracket (i.e. +1 to the highest relevant stat) gives 1/6 average success.

Moving a die one bracket to the left (i.e. +1 to any other relevant stat, or adding a stat of 1) gives 1/6 average success.

It's more uniform and thus feels fair, but requires more specialized materials.

>>369641

More uniform, but I'm not sure it's better mathematically depending on what the different pools are meant to model.

Under both systems, going from 1 skill contributing to the roll to 2 skills contributing doubles the success chance for the given number of dice, but the die size increase tapers off more quickly. If success range on a d6 is increased 4 times, the success rate is 5* higher than the base level. If the die step system is used, the starting rate is higher, but after 4 increases, the success rate is just 3* higher.

So, it really depends on how strongly you want the returns to diminish. The large change between first skill and second skill makes sense. Effectively you're going from an unskilled person defaulting to a base attribute to someone actually trained in a specific ability. Doubling is good for that. After that, it's a question of how much of an effect you want stacking to have.

>>369639

If you have to visualize numbers as rows and columns when rolling damage, then your damage formula is busted.

I want to make a board game in the vein of DnD 3.5 edition.

However the feat system would be a two parter.

The first list of feats you gain via leveling up or when your class grants you one.

However there would be a big difference.

For feats with paths lime fighting styles you can only get the first feat on the path.

So crane style you can only get the crane style feat.

This brings in the second feat path.

Through roleplaying (reading scrolls and practicing katas and strikes in this case and attempting to use the abilities in combat) you gain experience. When you finish the combat you get level xp and feat xp the latter of which you can put towards progressing that path.

I was thinking of making it in either a fantasy setting or science fantasy

>>369646

Your brain is busted.

>>369646

You may be retarded. In play, you count 4+, just like the vast majority of dice pool systems.

>>369653

Care to name one of these dice pool systems?

>>369664

The ones where you roll vs a target number and count successes?

Shadowrun, WoD if you want big ones. I think you'd have a harder time naming one that doesn't. The only one that springs to mind that doesn't work that way is WEGd6.

>>369648

Fantasy Craft already has a lot of what you're describing with feat paths. Spending XP to gain feats sounds wonky and unpleasant to track. Also, stop trying to make "D&D 3.5 but better" – Just work towards making a good game. Don't try to emulate D&D or think you can houserule it into a good edition.

>>369404

I feel bad that I had to read this twice because it's a fairly simple idea. I think it would require too many rules of what stats are allowed to be combined or else players would argue every stat applies.

>>369404

>>369641

>count 4

>output

I think this is the thing that's getting people hung up, because this is coding terminology. This isn't /tech/ so your meaning is being muddled.

>>369689

>coding terminology

Not him, but that's anydice syntax which any homebrewer who wants to roll their own rolling mechanic should know unless they do their own dice calculations.

>>369689

Would you be more familiar with a roll20 macro?

/roll ((?{highest number|0}-?{2nd highest|0})d6>6)+((?{2nd highest|0}-?{3rd highest|0})d6>5)+((?{3rd highest|0}-?{4th highest|0})d6>4)+((?{4th highest|0}-?{5th highest|0})d6>3)+((?{5th highest|0})d6>2)

/roll ((?{highest number|0}-?{2nd highest|0})d4>4)+((?{2nd highest|0}-?{3rd highest|0})d6>4)+((?{3rd highest|0}-?{4th highest|0})d8>4)+((?{4th highest|0}-?{5th highest|0})d10>4)+((?{5th highest|0})d12>4)

Since there's a necessary hard limit of 5 numbers to enter, you are allowed one attribute, one skill, one item bonus, one power bonus, and one circumstance bonus.

Does anyone mind if I post some of my world building ideas? I also had some questions on how the balance sounded for some minor adjustments I made to the character creation system and psychic system in Dark Heresy Second Edition. I did not really make any drastic changes, so I was wondering if this would be ok to post here.

>>369734

>>369742

Just to be devil's advocate: How often have you seen /tg/ (this /tg/ specifically) use anydice syntax or roll20 macros to explain mechanics?

>>369755

There is a worldbuilding thread for that sort of thing ( >>332161 ) . As for balancing homebrew rules for Dark Heresy, the 40k general might be helpful, the QTDDTOT is applicable, but here works too, I guess.

>>369765

Honestly: never. However, I'd expect it to be understood in the homebrew thread. On the topic of uncommon dice distributions is there a consensus on multiplying dice together? Gary Gygax used it in Cyborg Commando, but that isn't much credit to it.

>>369765

Funny, the game I play has tons of support for roll20 thanks to the community simply because there's so much math and bookkeeping involved for pretty much every step of the game. It's entirely possible that more people play it through roll20 than in person.

sage for non-homebrew

>>316412

>I'm not too worried though, because - let's be frank - balance and such are a meme to begin with.

Balancing to the point that everything is the same thing or thinking that you'll make everything perfectly equal are both memes. But not even bothering to try or deciding you're such a genius you had no mistakes that will pop up in testing will turn out to be almost as bad – possibly worse.

Would a rule for turn order like this be too complicated to play on Roll20?

SPEED = 13 (for example)

Round 1: (+0)

Turn @ 13

Turn @ 3

Round 2: (+3)

Turn @ 16

Turn @ 6

Round 3: (+6)

Turn @ 19

Turn @ 9

Round 4: (+9)

Turn @ 22

Turn @ 12

Turn @ 2

Round 5: (+2)

Turn @ 15

Turn @ 5

Round 6: (+5)

Turn @ 18

Turn @ 8

Round 7: (+8)

Turn @ 21

Turn @ 11

Turn @ 1

Round 8: (+1)

Turn @ 14

Turn @ 4

Round 9: (+4)

Turn @ 17

Turn @ 7

Round 10: (+7)

Turn @ 20

Turn @ 10

Turn @ 0

IN 10 ROUNDS, TAKE 23 TURNS

>>373945

I don't know how much can happen in a turn in your system, but it seems like having the best speed would be a HUGE advantage because you would always go first and get more turns.

>>374153

Thank you Captain Obvious, but you didn't answer the question.

>>374253

All you'd need to do it on Roll20 is have a turn counter. It's just more for the DM to keep track of. Nobody on Roll20 will want to playtest your shit homebrew with busted stats.

>>369639

Star Wars Edge of the Empire and etc. do this.

>>374259

Monsters with multiple turns aren't built into your system? Those are a fucking blast to play with.

>>374382

I'm not feeling this as anything other than a Transmutation-focused variant on the Alchemist. It feels too similar. What's your high concept here?

>>375022

Pic not mine but it does fit with the game itself

>>375022

If you're planning on dumping it in post form, consider instead putting it in a file, saving that as a PDF, and posting that so people can peruse it if they choose.

Silly question, but is the savage world system good to make a detective game that could EASILY devolve into survival horror?

>>375210

From my understanding its a 'whatever' system. It can do pretty much anything if you stat things right.

It probably works very well as survival horror as instead of hit points you have a very limited pool of wounds so any and every hit can be seriously detrimental.

>>374865

Mainly I'm asking how Roll20 can handle a character in a multi-turn system suddenly gaining or losing speed from a haste spell or whatever, so the turn order gets recounted, because that's a common thing in video games.

>>374927

Exactly that actually.

A major player of transmutation, since I think the regular alchemist is sort of all over the place this was my attempt at making one that stuck to themes of transmutations (Or just 'modification' in general) instead of going ham into things like mad science, explosions, or whatever else the different archetypes do.

Planning out how workers function in my wargame. Focusing on soldiers, but I plan to make other workers (diplomats, miners, etc.) operate using the same system.

Each unit has two tables of actions, one for offense and one for defense. Each table generally has 2 to 4 actions. These tables work with ten-sided dice rolls. Each die roll coordinates to an action on the table, and the player chooses from among those they rolled.

Currently it works like this:

1) Offending unit selects a unit to attack.

2) Defending unit rolls one die.

3) Offending unit, knowing what that action may be, rolls multiple (usually 2-4) dice and selects one of the results.

4) Defending unit, knowing the offender's chosen action, rolls again and chooses between the two results (if they are different).

5) Math happens, people die.

Additionally, players can activate "strategy cards" to help them during battle. Among these include "directive cards", which provide an alternative action table for use of any controlled units.

For example, if the skirmish involves protecting an embassy from rioters, the player may run a directive that gives actions related to crowd control and barrier erection. If the controlling player has 3 dice to roll on a unit, they could choose to distribute the rolls between the unit's standard actions and the directive actions.

Friends I'm starting an RPG business and I've got to put out a survey as part of the course I'm doing, if you could fill it out I'd appreciate it, and I'll share the results when they're all in: http://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/HUQEL/

Trying to figure out how squad-size should influence attack vs. defense. Essentially a unit is a card, and the tokens on the card are troops. I'm thinking about working it like this:

Damage has a base value, and a bonus per troop. So lets say a shocksquad has an attack of 10+3(t). If there's 4 troops on the unit, they'd have a collective attack of 22. If they attack a unit of 5 troops with 8 defense, they'd eliminate 3 of them.

Any major problems with this approach that I might not be considering? There's more to it, but this is just a very barebones idea to how I planned the damage to work and I'd rather get an opinion on that before tackling the intricacies.

Should one cap stats in a roll-against system below the highest number on the die to ensure that there is always a chance of failure, or should it be possible for players to reach a point where there is no failure?

>>375563

Personal preference but generally speaking I like it when there is at the very least a critical failure, so you can have dramatic moments, though you could have some mechanic saying 'If you reach this level, critical failures are just regular failures for you, because you're just that good'

>>375564

Well in the system I'm developing, it's a roll against d100. Stats would cap at 75, and critical failure would occur when the result is 20+ higher than the character's stat. Maybe I'll have it so that characters can choose three specialties, giving +5 to rolls on certain actions such as climbing, leaping great distances, etc. so that they only have a critical failure 1% of the time upon capping.

What's the opinion on points-buy during character creation? In my system, I'm having it so that players get 45 points to allocate to stats. Stats will only increase naturally on leveling up if the stat is 15+, preventing jack of all trades, master of all characters. There are ways to increase stats in other ways, such as studying in a library to increase intellect, but these ways can only give 1 point increase per location, meaning one would have to locate 15 libraries. Further, magical items may provide an artificial increase to a stat, such as boots which increase agility by +5. These increases obey stat-cap, and don't allow natural skill growth.

>>369689

I'll be honest, that's certainly the part that's got me completely mystified. Sure, the rest is just basic addition and subtraction, with very small numbers no less, but that doesn't help much when a key step basically translates to "???" to me.

>>374153

>and get more turns

Just wanted to say that I personally think speed/initiative totally should mean more turns/actions/whatever rather than simply going first, and vastly prefer video games that run things that way, but I've never found a good way to do it adequately… smoothly, for lack of a better term, at tabletop-friendly number scales and calculations. Things seem to get exponentially more complicated once you try to break out of the classic "everybody gets one turn per round" paradigm, since the way I see it, you have to throw out the concept of "rounds' entirely.

I was thinking of trying my hand at designing a board game to just see where it goes or how it does with friends. I have never done anything like that before, so I was wondering if I could get some advice. Any ideas on how what to keep in mind for inspiration vs stealing?

>>376368

The first thing I'd ask is how abstract you want it. Do players control characters in a setting? Pass resources between impersonal entities? Or just looking for rules and results?

So I'm working on a subsystem for Pathfinder, since I'm getting sick of magic items fucking up my games I've made a simple set of rules so that they decay over time:

CL x 2 - (Enhancement Bonus^2) = # of days it remains active. When this duration is over the item is completely destroyed

For most items each category is +1. Lesser Minor is +1, Greater minor +2, Lesser Medium +3, so on.

If a magic item has no category (Ex animated objects, elemental augmentations, oozes, etc) it instead treats the highest level spell used to create it as it's enhancement bonus. So a scroll of clashing rocks is effectively a +9 bonus.

The minimum lifespan for an item is one day

The idea here is to make powerful magic or low level crafters make short lived items. So the ideal is a good CL (Which increases cost on most things) on a lower level item. Making them all more like tools than perma buffs, so a +1 longsword might be a bit of a waste unless something has DR magic but if you get a decent lifespan on a bag of holding it can make looting a lot easier.

Also got a few ways to boost life span:

Sacrifices

As part of crafting kill a creature with HD >= CL, their total HD is added in days to lifespan

Runestones

Shitty batteries that only work on things up to an effective +1 enhancement. Cost 20 x CL gold, once used they add their CL of days to an item and prevents it from being charged again at all. However they decay by 1 CL every year, otherwise being stable.

Mana core

Better batteries that act like runestones. 30 x CL per level, up to CL 10, and can work on any item. They decay at the same rate but don't prevent an item from being charged again.

Mana Generator

A bulky device built into an item. No max CL beyond the creator's, 500 x CL gold and adds 2 x CL lbs in weight to the item. They add 10 x CL days to the item's lifespan, however their CL must be at least half that of the item's.

Engines

A few different kinds, but they all operate on the same logic: Not magical in themselves but can use spells cast into them to fuel other items. All can be built into an item as long as they can hold the engine, and most have some 'sockets' which can have items placed in them to drain the charge. So you can build one into a flying ship and have featherfall items on charge in the sockets to act as magic parachutes. Downside is unless they're in a vehicle they're not too mobile, save you have a colossus around to carry one in it's magic sword.

>>376588

>in a pre­gunpowder fantasy medieval

game, one may not use the word Sniper, as this would not fit the setting.

Crossbows existed.

>>376976

You can't snipe with a crossbow. Crossbow snipers don't exist.

I did it, /tg/. I published. My work is for sale.

>>377633

Well.. Tell us about it, man!

>>377634

It's a historical low fantasy game set in 15th century England. I've been working on it for about a decade. DriveThruRPG just emailed me telling me it's live for sale.

>>377637

All right, all right, fine.

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/228422/Middenarde?src=8chan

It's not very difficult, though granted I went through a lot of refining so there wasn't much to take issue with. I wrote the whole thing in Word, and then assembled the PDF in Scribus with all the art assets (the editor I hired did the bulk of the work on that, but it's not terribly hard to learn, just time-consuming).

You set up a publisher account on DTRPG, upload your files, fill out the description and such, and then submit it for review. After 1-5 days (took 4 for me), they email you letting you know that it's live or not. Once you've published a few things through them you can do it on your own without oversight.

As far as getting paid, they mail you checks for $50 or more until you're a trusted author and then you can direct deposit into a PayPal account. They take a 30% cut, much like Steam.

All in all, pretty easy. If you have a quality product, they wanna sell it, so they don't make it hard to do so.

>>377636

>>377638

What are the mechanics of your game?

>>377641

It uses 3d6 as the basic roll for skill checks, with a modifier for your rank in skills. Since I was going for a low-fantasy approach (and also it's simpler and easier to learn), there's no physical stats like STR/CON/CHA and what have you, you just invest ranks in skills when you level up through gaining experience. Because the player characters are so squishy, they also get luck points when they level up, of a type according to the ancestry they choose in character creation, which have different uses but all of them help you get by.

I was inspired by Ironclaw et. al. in making dice pools for the combat, which I feel makes fights more balanced and lethal. You can't ever get so high-leveled that someone who's level 1 couldn't touch you if you rolled all 1s, but unless the stars align you are probably going to beat them handily. There's a locational damage system which can see your characters' limbs crippled or cut off, and you can also bleed out, so armor is important. I tried to strike a balance between the spergy minutiae of simulation medieval combat, and being understandable and fun, so the combat and equipment went through a lot of refinement and rewriting.

Skill checks and combat rolls are pretty much all there is to it. The meat of it is more in the various rules for playing the game, and the stuff laid out for the low-fantasy magic user routes (which cover hedge wizardry, Christian invocation, heretic invocation, and demonology/summoning and contract-making), and obviously roleplaying and fluff.

The introduction chapter is available as part of the full-size preview and is more detailed.

I kinda want to make a kickstarter for 200$ just to get a camrea and buy a draw fag to put illustration in my book. After that i'll release it to the backers and sell the pdf for 5 bucks. what do you guys think of that idea? I pretty much finished up 1.0 of the game but i'm still on the finishing and editing phase of it.

>>377663

Kickstarter is a lot of trouble for such a small sum of money. You're better off just saving up the money on your own or borrowing it from a friend or family member if your bar is that low.

>>377663

>camera for less than 200$

>drawfag for less than 200$

A decent camera is going to run you like 250 and an artist doing just a cover illustration can be expected to charge similar amounts on a full art, background, colored piece like that. Even cheap deviantartists and the like would probably floor at 50$, thats not counting any other illustrations you need for the book which will run you at least (again, with some low price deviant artist with an inconsistent schedule and too many mental issues to be trusted to do the job you pay them for) 15 a piece, more likely 25.

>>377663

>>378390

Hungry drawfag here. What kind of artstyle did you have in mind?

I have an idea for a one shot that I'm starting to flesh out.

I've never tried to make anything or DM before, so I'm sure it'll be a trainwreck if I ever actually finish it.

>>378503

Whatever amount of money you think you'll need, take that figure and double it. Likewise for production and work time. You need to be as generous as possible with your goals and honest with yourself because you are going to underestimate the challenge of what you're doing, and overestimate your ability to get it done.

Working on some races for pathfinder. I want one of them to get their favored class bonus more often, but I'm not sure how much would be reasonable. Getting an extra bonus even every second level sounds like too much to me, but I'm not sure. I can balance it out by making the rest of their racial traits worse of course, but I'd still like some opinions on what you'd think would make it a somewhat balanced ability just on it's own.

>>381233

Character portraits are super cool and I'm digging the quotes for the races. I like the backstory as well, are you planning on having the "contractors" be somewhere inbetween Dark Heresy and Paranoia? That's what it seems like to me.

Couple notes:

The character creation list is out of order. It's kind of a small thing but everything looks aesthetically nice otherwise (did you use indesign or is there somewhere to download these page backgrounds?) so that stands out a lot more than if it was in text format. Some of the text is in a weird position and not completely justified, if this is a final version you might want to go back over everything and fix the positioning

Not all the way through the ruleset yet. The active and passive stats are cool. Are you planning on doing character sheets? It's difficult to conceptualize without having the reference point of a premade character sheet. When skimming through the effort level table caught my eye as interesting but will have to go through the rest of the mechanics to see if that's easy to implement. It's a little intimidating on first glance because of the page number, it looks like the straight mechanical aspect is on the first 20ish pages though.

Gonna end with a question:

What is the system meant to do?

A lot of games in development have difficulty articulating that. Haven't read through everything in the mechanics section yet but the part of your post

>my goal is to make something that's malleable without being "rules lite".

doesn't tell me anything about the purpose of your game. For reference: I liked Shadows of the Demon Lord and what helped draw me in was their quick description. Your setting and the style are both cool (still need to go through all the rules but they look interesting) but you have to throw the hook out there. The only reason I opened the .pdf was bored on 8ch and saw this at the bottom of a thread on page 4. I got it after reading but there was nothing in your post that intrigued me.

TL;DR

Post better I like the game so far though, good job anon

>I am also uncertain if 8chan is good advertisement,

Advertising here is a bad idea. cuck/tg/ in the (g)olden days back in 2012 or thereabout was very hostile to just about everything and that spirit is still alive here. It's a pretty reasonable reaction to the constant disappointments in tabletop with the added bonus that we're considered toxic troglodytes by the trash that inflicts our noble hobby.

Well alright I pretty much finished my game but I have no idea where to put my game at all. Where do I publish it drive thru rpg? I can't figure out how to put games on there at all. I guess board game geek?

>>381233

>>383330

Part 2, I've had this open in a tab for a day now.

Read/skimmed over the mechanics. I actually like them quite a bit. The effort level or target number idea works better than I thought it would given that the races are all human. Cool how you can manipulate scores with other party members and lower the threshold for success by being clever. If I were to run this I probably could figure everything out fairly easily, which is a good thing for new systems. Liked the improvised weapon creation. Needs more equipment though, there's a few neat bits in there but it's not enough.

Feels like there are easy reference points for just about everything. 3d6 system is a good call. Also went over some of the enemy types. Holy shit the vivamancers seem brutal. I basically get AIDS if I can't think hard enough? The term 'fleshcrafter' is metal as hell btw.

What you're missing is a starting quest. I don't like premade quests but I do like having a reference point on how everything interacts. Going through the pages gave me a fairly good idea of what goes on: government throws people at a problem to save on more valuable manpower> get caught up in shennigans> maybe survive. Problem is that something like DnD will always have an easier time with this stuff because their setting is already familiar, having a good starting quest would tell me how to best structure my own quest for this particular game. I'd try it out if you threw in some extra pieces that I mentioned above and if I could get a group together more than once a month.

I've been working on a "Space Station Game" that was inspired by something I saw in Inquest when I was but a lad. Today I opened up my folder after a few weeks off, and just started gutting the rules and it's very satisfying, exactly what I needed to breathe life into the game and actually muster the guts to finish it. The rules were a fucking MESS, way too many dumb "points" for players to keep track of and spend (Action Points, Move Points, etc) and way too many interrupts. The game needs to be simple and slightly "dumb" because after all the players are just a bunch of sci-fi cliches wielding sci-fi cliches and trying to murder each other in a desperate scramble for an escape pod key. More later maybe. Don't even know what advice I expect to get.

>>383685

I advise you to look at the rules for Classic Traveller. It's a 2d6 throw-based sci-fi system that's incredibly smooth, and can essentially be condensed into a single small booklet rules-wise. Look over the rules, and isolate the problems you have with it - what skills do you not need, what do you think are missing, etc.

One piece of advise I was giving is to look for verbs. Make a list of actions you expect a character to perform in the game. Condense each point to a single (or at most 2~3) word action, and then ensure the game supports it. Wrap everything under a unified mechanic, like the Traveller 2d6 throw, scaling DCs, roll under, or whatever you think is appropriate.

For the record, I don't recommend AP, MP, and the like. I tried using an AP system at my table, but in the end, we had to hack it out after a single session into a simple abstraction of "that's about how much you can do, give or less" and usually ignoring it. There are better ways to do it.

Is the site broken?

>Tell me, what are you working on?

Currently working, again, on my Procedural Police Drama game. Uses PbTA for it's engine.

>Where are you stuck?

Now? I'm not. But, a week ago, I was stuck on playbooks and moves. Moving along nicely now.

>Have you playtested anything yet?

Yes! Sort of... I was stuck on playbooks and moves for the longest time, so I asked some of my more creative group members to help out. We had a "conceptual playtest" a little over a week ago. It worked fucking wonders. Just running a game, letting everyone pitch their own moves and shit... It was a miracle.

Working on a grand-strategy game system and have gotten to a point where I'm testing out some mechanics. I feel like I've struck gold, this is coming along beautifully in ways I hadn't anticipated. I look forward to being able to share some stuff, but it may be a while before I've got things strung together.

>>383760

Personally I feel like I owe it back to the community to at least involve them in the process as things get more firm and playtestable as 8chan has been a great resource for ideas and conversation. I'll probably buy adspace and give it a shot here even if it doesn't prove fruitful or I get called a redditor shill, seems like the decent thing to do. Share a free PDF of the game in a thread, by a banner ad, dump a Kickstarter link, and be open to talk to people about it even if 8chan is small and unlikely to return much monetarily on time spent here as opposed to other social media platforms. Anons might take it the wrong way but that's in their nature, not like mean words hurt.

I started working on a naruto rpg on a whim. Not even really that big of a fan. But anyway I think it might be approaching done next weekend.

I'm homebrewing(or trying to) homebrew a set of magic items for D&D 5e and I have a rough idea of what I want them to do, but I'm iffy on the specifics.

A set of stones catering to different archetypes that start moderately powerful but not too useful for the level they become available at, charge up to on-level, then charge up again to become a powerful swing.

The first one I have done and ready to playtest is the Stealthstone. Advantage on Stealth and Acrobatics for an hour/+Invisibility for ten minute and squeeze without penalties/+Greater Invisibility for a minute and Sneak Attack even if you aren't a Rogue. Charge up through slaying an unaware creature from Stealth(subject to change; specifically stating the creature can't know you're there AND you must be stealthed)

I want the next one to be a Magestone that full- and half-casters can both find useful, but, aside from proficiency in Arcana(maybe) and eventually refilling spell slots, I dunno what to do for them that put it on par with the Stealthstone. A bonus to save DC?

Ideas for other stones/archetypes would be appreciated.

>>388716

Why isn't Orc Territory called Orc Island if its an Island. Or does their territory stretch inland as well?

Skipped the thread after reading about the first tenth, so one of you probably already did what I'm trying to do and did it a million times better. What started as a small set of house rules to make D&D/Pathfinder more martial-friendly spiraled into a mad attempt to make my own murderhobo system. Trying 5e, Starfinder, and the PF2 playtest have only heightened my infantile desire to reinvent the wheel and do it so much better than those professional hacks.

The house rule that started it all was allowing players to take a combat feat, teamwork feat, or weapon/armor proficiency by spending some skill points. After that I decided to give every player a trait ("half a feat") every level instead of a feat every 2 levels, and let them spend two traits to get a feat, or one trait to get a shitty feat. Now it's become an a 'la carte point-buy system that:

>is class-less and level-less (with templates if you just want to roll up your D&D guys quickly)

>uses the d6 exclusively

>has nine stats (Strength, Vitality, Agility, Dexterity, Reflexes, Perception, Intelligence, Willpower, Charisma) (CHA doubles as SAN for madness mechanics)

>enforces MAD (for resistance/saves, some skills, and I'm just flat-out stealing Ryuutama's mechanics for using weapons)

>divides features and traits into different ranks with different costs depending on their utility

>is technically effects-based but goes out of its way to mechanically define and handle causes

>focuses on damage reduction instead of avoidance for armor

>uses a dynamic action economy (split 6d6 any way you like for your actions, add some k0 dice for skills, drop dice for extra movement, reserve some for reactions, or borrow some from your next turn)

>does not use "dramatic" or narrative-driven action rules; rules for targeted attacks and extra effects from energy damage are included in core

I want to expand from this with social rules and "scalar" systems (business/kingdom/exploration/war/etc.) using the 6d6 split mechanic, but I should probably focus on making a small bestiary for playtesting first.

>>388824

Because Orc Island sounds weird

>>388871

cuckold fucking queer, get off my /tg/, this interracial propraganda shit is fucking disgusting and annoying. you are not /tg/ and you never will be

I've had a few ideas kicking about, some of which will probably never go anywhere, but I figure I might as well share the collection of half-baked mechanics that I've got halfway developed just in case someone here can make use of it.

Mechanically it's pretty simple, the player has a dice-pool of varying sizes of die, checks are rolled against a target number with varying degrees of success or failure. Advancement is tied strictly to this pool, when the player gains sufficient XP they can either advance a die one step (d4->d6->d8->d10->d12, d12 is the biggest a die can get), or split a d4 off of a larger die by making it smaller (e.g. d8 becomes 2 d4s, d10 becomes a d4 and a d6, d12 becomes a d4 and a d8)

Combat as far as it's been developed is done similarly. Both combatants select a number of die from their pool and roll them, then take turns removing various die from their rolls. Each combatant removes one die from his roll, then one die from the opponent that the removed die beats (e.g. If the player removes a die showing a 7 from his own pool, he can then remove any die showing a 6 or under from the opponents roll). This continues until either one combatant can't remove any die from the opponent's roll, runs out of die or opts to end the round, at which point the combatants put the die they used back in their pool and repeat the process. Whoever runs out of die first loses the combat.

>>389340

>wyzzards

You fucked it up.

>>389340

>website is literally piped in from a remote service

>20+ blacklisted elements on the front page

>smear filter on background art

Consider suicide.

>>390548

the style doesn't matter so much as being able to convey information correctly

>>389340

good production value, but how does it play and can we have a pdf you niggard?

>>390548

How are you handling research and building? Most systems I've seen have them being on a hidden information sheet.

>>390570

I'm personally fond of hidden information, I think it's something that more games should try to develop as a component of gameplay. In this case, the game uses a lot of index cards, and the term "drawing a card" has a bit more of a double meaning, though players are encouraged to prepare cards beforehand to speed things up (as well as to give factions a sense of existing identity).

When adding a card to the table, the player must announce that they are "drawing a card". While the other players can't see the card's contents they can see the player adding to its build (for example, adding a tally for time each turn, or spending some of a resource on a hidden card, etc). The card can only be used when it has both been revealed and all of its requirements have been met (which can potentially happen in either order). This is to ensure that players actually have to premeditate their strategies and work towards them, as opposed to pulling a helicopter out of their ass because they suddenly need one.

In the case of cards for research, usually players will add to the value of a research type after it's already been revealed. Some forms of research will also have requirements. For example, ballistics will require a certain amount of engineering research, as well as the blackpowder development which requires a certain amount of chemistry research. There will also be several ways for players to benefit off of other players' research. In addition, certain research and developments are assumed by default at the start of the game depending on which period it's set in (neolithic, dark ages, colonial, industrial, etc).

Yes, there will be a lot of index cards on the table at any time. There will also be rules on how they are organized, so they're not just some messy heap of hassles slowing down the game.

>>390548

That kobold? looks like he's tired of your shit

>>390606

Those are my donut-steel race. They're kinda like a mix between kobolds, humans, and rodents. They're the only race that'll be present in the basic rulebook (other than "outsiders", which are purely fluff), but I may add others in later supplements.

Doubleposting because I'm a trainable and I forgot to set a password for my previous post.

Anyways, for when I'm away from my computer (and thus unable to work on my grand-strategy game), I've started developing another game on my phone's memo-pad as a side-project. It's simpler, so good chance it'll also be ready sooner.

Like my other game, hidden cards play a big part in gameplay. However, this one's meant to be more of an arena fighter game in tabletop form. The rules themselves are really simple, but also very dependent on content, so I'm gonna need to make a decent amount of cards before it's ready for any sort of testing.

>>393439

That sounds like fun, savage worlds is always good for this kind of stuff

I put together a prototype for a turn based strategy game built around mecha and collecting loot to customize them. I want to know if it's worth developing further or not and want some feedback.

https://mega.nz/#!HuZyWKCK!jJqZCLr4CNUHYnXrKOzP9uL8n-k5HKZ_geFXG7CfQVA

>>394415

The intention wasn't that players would always be rolling 2 of the same dice, but that they'd be mixing them, based on the rank of the attribute and skill being used. So, you could have a d10 in an attribute, and a d6 for the skill being used. This makes the probability curve wonkier, as it's not just a a small nudge in the prop.. I started toying with the idea of a third die for equipment. So, a character could have a d8 in Strength, a d6 in Attack, and a d4 sword, and that would be rolled as a pool, added, and the result figured from there.

However, the immediate problem I ran into is that it wouldn't make sense to have "equipment" for every single kind of roll. It could be argued that certain things become equipment in certain contexts, like a nice suit being equipment in a social situation, but that doesn't always work. And then you end up in a situation where players are constantly angling for a higher die or arguing that whatever random object they can grab is gear that gives them that extra die that swings the probability curve into a more comfortable area.

And none of that really gets into how to play out resolutions. If I fudge together something that makes the 3 dice thing work, it still might not be fluid enough to make more for low effort gameplay. I think I'm just going to have to shelve that idea and put it aside for a different sort of game entirely.

>>394483

Maybe I'll put them in after I finish the jutsu list. Although I'm not quite sure how I would handle how players get them other than just rolling for them.

>>394024

Didn't do a follow-up on this because of IRL stuff, but the testing went VERY very well. I tested both A0.0.1 and A0.0.2 just because I hadn't tested the first version before developing the second, and as expected A0.0.2 was a huge improvement. Doing away with dice rolls really helped with the immersion, and while the second version requires a little more number-tracking it's pretty easy to get used to it.

Knowing what I know from testing, I'm now moving into A0.0.3. This is the version that will likely most resemble B0.1.0, which is what I intend to take public early next year. This will include a reformatting of how actions are presented on the cards, an expanded set of characters, and a more comprehensive set of terms and status effects in the rulebook (as opposed to overly-detailed mechanics taking up space on the cards themselves).

I haven't abandoned the strategy project. I've just switched focus onto the fighter for reasons that are a mixture between personal and business-related. Working on the fighter game is also really helping me visualize and nail down concepts and mechanics for both the strategy game and the RPG I'm working on, as they all share certain design principles, despite playing very differently.

I'm expecting to open this to public beta in February (or sooner), during which I will also resume work on the strategy and role-playing games. After a sufficient period of testing and balance-patching the project will enter v1, and the focus will shift to content expansion and further development on other aforementioned projects.

After years of starting things I never finished, overestimating myself and expecting things to go smoother than they actually do, I'm finally getting my shit together thanks to this game. Already it's exceeding my expectations, a reversal of every project I've taken on in the past. I'll definitely be keeping this thread informed.

Anyone think Babylon 5 A Call to Arms is a good enough game to go off of? From the rules I have read it seems fine, but I haven't been able to find any videos of people playing it.

I have been on my own wargame on and off, but have only really started ramping up the development and playtesting.

I got tired of 40k for two main reasons:

-my turn/your turn.

-"dice bucket" fatigue. When it's theoretically possible for a 40-point unit in a 2000-pt game to make 800 rolls to hit and wound in a single turn...

So what I've been working on is an alternating activation system that uses a regenerating resource pool of Strategy Points to manipulate the turn order. You can activate multiple consecutive units at incremental cost.

The real kicker is that I'm using "intent to attack" interrupt mechanics.

A attacks B. B's player can interrupt, choosing a unit to perform 1 action.

If that action is offensive, it must target A, and A's player gets to interrupt if a Strategy Point is spent.

Etc. It's a LIFO resolution and makes things feel "almost" real-time as there's minimal downtime.

>>400529

>1st pic

What is that?

How the fuck do I faithfully adapt a combat system from a video game where every attack action involves at least an accuracy roll vs. an evasion roll, independent critical chance and block chance, and then a damage roll that can vary tenfold between a given character's basic and ultimate attacks?

Every homebrew tabletop game out there boasts "fast abstract combat!" as a selling point, and the homebrew tabletop game community generally abhors multiple rolls in one action, but the distinction between blocking and dodging is a big deal in the source material.

All I have so far is:

1. Combine accuracy and evasion into a 2d20+N roll vs. 20+N static.

2. Combine critical and block into a percentile roll, where critical is a top range, block is a bottom range, and overlap cancels out.

3. Never add more dice to damage when a static bonus will do.

>>413622

http://www.necropraxis.com/2016/12/02/stonehell-prepare-to-die-blocking-and-dodging/

I don't implement something like it myself, since my players aren't big fans, but this guy has a few writings on the topic of a combat system which aims in similar direction. Effectively, the idea is that instead of the the GM rolling an attack, the player rolls either "block" or "dodge" (or in your case, evade), with different enemies requiring one or the other.

Taking from Chivalry & Sorcery here: From there, I would recommend you replace the standard damage die with a critical die. On the lower bounds, the damage could be around what it says (for instance, on a roll of 1-6 on the d10, damage is 1 to 6). Higher numbers could have a multiplier - for instance, 7 to 9 could indicate rolling a second die (d6 perhaps) and 10 could indicate a critical strike for some immense damage. The "range" for critical could then adjust - from as low as "10" to as high as "7-10"; alternatively, you could have the die increase - from d6 (no crit), to d8, to d10, to d12.

Doing this would only slightly (but meaningfully) increase the complexity of the system versus something like D&D, while still keeping the total number of rolls the same, and more or less hitting all of the points you're bringing up.

>>413664

I will definitely read and share this, thank you.

>>413622

>How the fuck do I faithfully adapt a combat system from a video game

Generally, depending on the video game in question, you don't. Which is why so many games rely on narrative abstraction on multiple levels to make combat bearable, instead of having every single action being a matter of referencing an encyclopedic list of potential maneuvers, making 5 different rolls, cross-referencing those against the enemy's rolls, and then hopefully resolving that one action before everyone else at the table falls asleep.

Also, what game are you attempting to adapt?

Been doing some extended testing on my arena-fighter game, as well as some numbers-tweaking an roadmapping for content. As far as how the game plays and feels, it's turned out far better than I anticipated. However, for upkeep reasons I'm not planning on taking it to any publishers, and instead building up funding to market it independently with a non-market model.

My actual development focus now has been on two projects I'm preparing to talk to publishers about in late April, and constructing physical presentations to bring with. One is a three-lane strategy game about prehistoric holy war between pagan tribes. Mechanically it's pretty simple, but with field-building giving the players a lot of ways to break up the formula and keep things interesting.

The other is a very experimental RPG focused less on direct engagement and more on situational control. A big part of my focus is translating character personality into game mechanics, in ways that bridge strategic flexibility with roleplay immersion. Time between sessions also plays a part, with players not knowing exactly what one-another are preparing to bring next session.

I also have been repurposing a miniatures game concept into something more marketable I plan to talk to publishers about this summer, but not working much on at the moment other than writing things down as they come to mind. Before I imagined a large-scale modern-war game with a system for individualized troops, but the more I worked on that idea the more the appeal and practicality were at odds. I plan to adapt some of its concepts into a small-team mecha game instead.

Polite sage because deleted-and-updated reply.

>>413720

>How can I do X?

>By not doing X.

I bet you respond to questions about Windows with "install Linux".

>>413853

Assholes like that consistently piss me off. If you aren't going to actually answer the question, them shut the fuck up and stop trying to discourage people, because 90% of the time the endeavor is pointless and the person asking just does it anyway. They're looking for assistance, so they'll probably ignore everything else, as they should.

>>413853

>>413869

Normally, I'd side with you, but adapting vidya to tabletop often doesn't go well, because most vidya thrives in fast-paced, moment to moment gameplay. Saying "I want to make this vidya into a RPG" is usually right up there with "I'm going to fix D&D!"

>>413622

Is it a particular game, or more the general concepts of the game genre/subgenre itself?

If the latter, I'd say don't try to mimic the vidya, but rather try to imagine how the genre would have emerged differently in tabletop than on vidya. You'll wind up with something that differs mechanically, but captures the feel a lot better than more direct mimicry. I'm speaking from experience, as I've got a tabletop fighter-game I've been testing.

If you were to try to take an existing game and translate it to tabletop, however... Well, that really depends on the game. Often it might not be that realistic to try to make a complete faithful adaptation of most games. I'd suggest taking the defining traits of the game, any gimmicks or gameplay features that set it apart, and try to translate them onto an otherwise standard tabletop formula.

For example, in a tabletop version of Red Dead, you'd want to include points you could spend on Dead Eye mode, but you could easily apply that to an otherwise standard RPG format using dice, tiles, and turn-based combat. It may not feel like you're playing a real-time 3rd-person shooter, but as long as your Red Dead is set apart from other tabletop games analogous to how the video games are from other 3rd-person shooters, it will still capture the essence and feel of the game.

>>413853

>>413869

This is way overreacting. Yeah, his initial answer was "generally, depending on the game in question, you don't", but then he went into related details and then opened the question of "which game" is to be adapted. It looks like he's not just saying "the answer is don't lol" and is probably open to give actual advice on the topic. Part of that advice just comes in the form of why it's generally not advised. This can be just as valuable in correcting a designer's approach, as opposed to discarding it.

>>416017

If you've never homebrewed anything and aren't especially familiar with many systems and games, then starting by making a wargame from the scraps of someone else's project is going to be difficult. Trying to fold in RPG elements on top of that is likewise going to be tricky. Even though this is the homebrew thread, it's worth asking if you've exhausted all your options when it comes to other systems. Like finding a system with decent vehicle rules that you could adapt to work alongside an RPG system you already know, for instance.

If you're sure that the sort of thing you want to play doesn't already exist, then you need to ask yourself what it is those other games don't have that you want to fulfil the kind of gameplay experience you think a Tank RPG should have.

>>316397

>Tell me, what are you working on?

I have purchased the Lovecraft collection to read, as well as the Edgar Allen Poe collection. I would like to use these to homebrew a decent campaign. This will be the first campaign I have ever dm'ed so hopefully I do not muck it up. I have played many pathfinder games though so I'm somewhat familiar with the rules/systems.

>where are you stuck?

This is still just a kernel of an idea. I purchased a module, but after reading through it didn't really care to use it. I genuinely believe I can make a better game with the right inspiration, but now I have to prove it to myself.

>Have you playtested anything yet?

Negative, I'm still waiting for my books to arrive in the mail.

>what makes a game good

Leniency on rules that don't really matter that much. Thankfully it's a different player in my group that does this and not the DM, but zealot-level minutia rulecucking just kills the flow of a game, and I'd still play a campaign if he ever decided to DM one but I would play it begrudgingly.

>>394329

Use roll-under and make the bigger dice for inferior ability. That way the more skilled you are the more consistent you are, but even the most incompetent character has some chance of success. This also means that for some "normal" difficulties, a master will always succeed.

If you want to avoid math, you could do dice pools - roll XdY and count the number that successfully rolled under. I saw a mechanic once based on the die type reflecting base attribute and the number of dice in the pool reflecting skill. You could also account for synergistic skills by throwing in an additional die or two according to different skills (e.g. 3d8 +1d10)

>>394454

I'm >>416692

If you do like I suggested (roll under and take the number of successes) instead of adding anything, not having equipment won't lower your average roll, but it will reduce the number of possible successes. Say you have a challenge with a DC of 6 to roll under. You have a d10 and d12 for skill and ability. You've got a 1/2 chance with the d10 and a 5/12 chance with the d12 (~70% of at least 1 success, ~20% of 2 successes). Throw in a d6 (5/6 chance) for heroic gear and you now have ~95% chance of 1 success or ~43% chance of 2 successes. You could also get 3 successes (~17%). A challenge could get different results based on how many dice beat the DC, like criticals, or a task may just require a certain number of successes.

>>416695

I don't frequent these threads, but set them during every full moon. Also setting a monthly show and tell is a great idea.

>>416714

The general idea is laid out here ( >>412298 ) and discussed and minorly carried out following that post in that thread. The idea is to encourage more homebrew and work on homebrew by setting a date, similar to /agdg/'s demo days. Every full moon seems a little excessive, but that really depends on how many people are actually here and willing to post about their shit.

I'm currently making a metric ton of custom magic items, artifacts etc.

What should I not do when designing magic items for characters to build themselves around?

>>316397

>Summer is here

Summer ended 6 months ago, are you retarded or something?

>>418071

Are you?

>>417368

Alright, I'l come up with something for the 18. See you then.

Reminder to bring your homebrew on May 18. Don't worry if its shit,

Sorry for the late post, its saturday now. I wanted to make a simple mod to d20 to have less hp bloat and have only one hitdice. I realized halfway through that you can just convert WOD or Ars Magica to dnd instead.

Its like this.

Combat Rules

Steps

1. Roll 1d6 for initiative for each character. Higher numbers go first.

2. When its your turn, you get a movement and an attack in any order.

3. When attacking, roll a D20 and then compare it to the target’s defence. If it beats the targets defence, the attack hits and roll for damage. If it doesn’t beat the target defence, the attack misses.

4. After everybody has acted, start at the beginning of the initiative order.

Damage

After rolling a successful hit, roll the weapons damage or 1d6 if not specified. Then add any modifiers then subtract the targets Armour value from the damage total.

If damage done is more then the targets current hit points, the target takes 1 fatigue.

Fatigue

As battles continue, PCs and NPCs begin to tire and fatigue begins to take in. Depending on the type of armour worn, you will be gaining fatigue every 5 combat rounds or 10 combat rounds.

When you gain fatigue two things happen.

-Your evasion decreases -2

-Your armour reduction decreases by -1

Fatigue can stack, but it can not reduce evasion or armour reduction to negative numbers.

The amount of fatigue points a PC or NPC can take is dependent on their max hit points.

My cat puked all over the sheet of creature designs I had prepared.

FMITA. ):

I'm going to be out of town until tomorrow evening, but I plan to have some stuff to post.

>>419352

This summer I am working on rules for playing a card game using cards from at least YGO Pkm & mtg, but I may also add more.

>>419352

Are you the guy behind the original Dungeons the Dragoning, by chance?

>>419404

As I say on the first page of the PDF no and I have never had anything to do with him bar playing his amazing game.

Next full moon is June 17th, so keep working, and try to give some feedback. Also try to post more about what you've been working on.

How do you measure the linear fighters/quadratic wizards?

I'm making a little game, and I wan't to avoid this. What is the best metric to measure this? Is it spells that deal more damage than fighters? The options that combining spells opens up? The status effects that are exclusive from martial characters? All of the above?

I wanna have a discussion on this, I wanna understand it better.

>>420844

The Linear Fighter, Quadratic Wizard is a matter of options, mostly. As the Fighter levels, he has a strict progression track that amounts to steadily building a little power with each level so he can attack more accurately and more often. Wizards, on the other hand, gain more and more spells that allow them to put every other class to shame. With each new level of spell and more spells, the Wizard's options can expand wildly in all directions, and in some cases, they just get instant win options as well. Meanwhile, a Fighter of similar level can now attack a few more times, and if the GM has been gracious, maybe they have a magic sword that lets them do a little more damage and a few feats that allow them to Trip or Grapple with a slight bonus.

This problem came about because Monte Cook and the other designers for 3.5, were literally being a bunch of pretentious twats. Their belief was that each class and mechanic and feat should be like Magic the Gathering's card rarity and meta-game system. This meant that the Fighter was a basic bitch common card with no fancy mechanics to learn or understand, while the Wizard and other casters were meant to be rare, powerful cards with synergy and special rules and all kinds of neat shit meant for advanced, intelligent players to appreciate and feel rewarded for mastering.

>>420844

To understand this, let's start at the beginning:

Chainmail has Heroes, Super-Heroes, and Wizards. Hero-types are nearly impossible to kill by normal men, and can also fight powerful enemies. They will generally lose to a Wizard. Further, Wizards have a lot of other 'special' things they can do. However, other than Elves, only Hero-types can use magic swords and magic arrows. Though a Wizard is powerful, a Dragon will annihilate them almost every time. But Hero-types, especially with a magic arrow, can shoot down a Dragon. They also boost the morale of their allies. These make them special.

OD&D retains glimpses of this. Fighting-men have the best saves, and only they can use magic swords, the strongest magical devices. They can take an amazing amount of punishment. Magic-users are weak at the beginning, but become very powerful later down the line. Even then, there are still things they can't do - a fighting-man retains functionality.

Later games give the magic-user more and more spells, that do more and more things. They take away magic swords as fighter only, they balance out saving throws, and they boost HP across the board. Monsters especially get a lot more HP, meaning a fighter goes from as tough as a dragon, to a mere fraction! On top of this, magic-users end up with a much easier time of item creation.

Wanting a switch crack so I can play Brawl minus on the switch

>>421942

Wrong kind of homebrew, dipshit.

>>421941

> "I would want the ability to push forward, feint back, maybe even circle around."

Got all of that in. A big part of the game involves moveset customization, and maneuvers are actions just like any attack.

> "Is it a cage fight? Tournament square? A wrestling circle? More along a straight line like fencing/street fighter?"

The standard arena is an 11-tile-diameter hexagon surrounded by walls. However, I've also got a few others printed out, including a few straight corridors of different widths and I've been experimenting with some hazard-based arenas.

> "Are there stances that provide benefits/weaknesses?"

I don't have a direct system for stances, but there are actions and modifiers that essentially function as these.

> "How about incremental injuries to exploit?"

Like doing damage to specific parts of the body? I don't have a thoroughly-developed system for that specifically (nor do I want to, for both thematic and design reasons), but I do have a status-ailment that sort-of represents it. However, this particular ailment is currently in a sort-of experimental phase, I haven't fully decided how I want to incorporate it.

> "Is it purely striking, kicking, or is there an entire grappling subgame?"

There is very much a grappling system, which can be used to support certain strikes or access grapple-only moves. It's a rather high-stakes approach to combat, as while it can be extremely effective if used right it can also leave the user vulnerable if they don't pull off the grab itself properly.

I took GURPS lite specifically because it was short and built a custom system off it it, particularly my own magic system. It has it's own game world and even 5 separate religion skills to pick from (four are cults) each of which grants abilities for the first six levels taken. Magic is as follows:

>Artificing

You can break down existing magic items to learn words or get them from a teacher. Then you can use a combination of the three to engrave an item- lastly you complete the feat associated with the spell whether that is throwing it 30 feet in the air or stealing it from a goblin a week+ after losing it. Once this is achieved the spell or affect becomes permanently active. The ascii characters associated with each Word is randomized every campaign via a python script I wrote. Fire in one campaign could be DJFH and in another ALLF, so the players can never truly know/metagame unless they have the profession.

>Alchemy

Make potions with ingredients that have effects. Ingredients have 2-3 of 5 possible essences, and can have more than one of the same essence. 4 of the essences combine with one another to prevent additional side effects from appearing in the potion, so you have to balance it without diluting your potion. Ingredient essences, along with the color, texture, and unique taste are randomized every campaign via script. You can also perform transmutations at rank four which don't change between campaigns, and can be quite powerful/useful.

>Bardery

You can sustain music over a time duration (5 minutes) which applies a constant buff or debuff to ALL characters that hear it. That means you have to be careful what volume you are playing as this determines the AOE and strength of the music in most cases.

>Cults

There's the defacto religion which is a riddle god; this gives you abilities like precognition, prescience, smiting, etc. Then there's ice/death, pirate/muscles, sand/assassin, and clockwork cults.

Aside from the magic system I included a whole mess of extra rules for armour bonus against types of damage, specific kinds of wound, executions, nobility, guns, horses, and all sorts of other shit while trying to keep the experience streamlined.

>>423508

>page 74

>is stupid, or immortal

Should be immoral, not immortal.

>>423566

Thanks; fixed it.

>>423596

So if we're talking strictly in terms of mechanics, that's a very nice way to handle a miniaturized skirmishing game - certainly more elegant than a comparatively clunkier system like 4E. I don't think you should be labeling it as a role-playing game though - while I suppose there's nothing stopping you from trying to, there's nothing here which lends itself to anything but fighting, nor any mechanics for resource tracking, exploration, characters, or really anything else.

But as a skirmishing game? Looks pretty fun.

>>423600

Nice, good to hear it's on the right track. And, yeah, there aren't really any rp mechanics on the combat side of things; the game isn't super intertwined, but that's by design - some people can use combat as a minigame in a normal rp session, and others can just use some light rp as a framing device for one battle after another.

So a few months ago I saw a thread about making the sorcerer more mana centered rather than a wizard with party tricks

While I have very little actual knowledge or experience with the game I finally after kicking a few ideas around decided to write it down and see if it's any good

Please forgive any grammar mistakes or it being trash in general

Sorc Origin: Mana attuned

The Innate magic comes from the very fabric of mana itself for everything magical pulls and bends it one way or another.

Level 1

Mana Rip: At first level the M.A. gains access to the mana rip the users Makes a Melee spell attack roll Hands turn Ethereal and will sink into a creature attempting to Siphon mana from the target If Successful It will do 1d4 damage and the user will gain a Buff*

* Still uncertain if should be a set buff based on creature type and extending onto class type as well another suggestion was to leave it up to DM

Level 3

Mana Hound: This Passive ability Allows the user to detect magic items within 15ft radius As well as being able to tell if any magic has been used within 15ft radius Seen as tears in the “fabric” can also make an investigation roll to see what school of magic it was that caused this tear.

Level 6

Mana Echoes: Through the use of the mana tears the user replicates a spell (Cannot use one higher there their maximum spell level) takes up a spell slot equal to the level used. Can use a Sorc Point to cast the spell from the point of the tear as if the user was there

Level 14

?????

Level 18

Harvest: Once Per long rest ability User Siphons all mana in a 10ft Radius centered on the caster any creature in the area of effect must make a dex save roll or take 2d10 damage on succeful save only takes half

For every 10 damage dealt restores 1 spell slot ( example 10= lvl1 , 30=lvl 3 slot)

>>423604

My bad broski its 5e

Also yea

>>316906

Man do I love your post. I'm curious, tho, about applying it to systens I dislike.

< Pathfinder

>> Ease of play

While I'm not a fan of 1dX system, unless someone brought up an obscure rule, like how high characters can jump, we could play whole sessions without opening a book.

<< Crunch

Monk vs AM BARBARIAN vs Wizard. 'nuff said, it's a broken mess.

<< Player options

Trap options galore which can have characters down in one round encounters meant to challenge the whole group or have your character remain completely useless.

< Shadowrun

<< Ease of play

The complexity of tracking wound penalties, recoil, range, visibility, upgrades, implants, wind force, spread, ammo type and burst fire modifiers GUARANTEES no roll you'll ever make will both take under 2 minutes and be accurate.

>> Crunch

Curiously not so unbalanced. For a game this complex, very few characters will end up not contributing at all, and most who will probably were made thay way on purpose. The decking shit should be NPC work tho. Plus the lore is pretty good.

>> Player Options

Varied. Significant. Often, even without perusing the very complex rule set, you end up with a viable character. Exception duly noted of Aspected Mages. Also, reagents, foci and programs are a bit too obscure.

Huh. Seems to me that there's a degree aspect that's important to denote with your theory.

> A game designer might wish to be okay in all 3 aspects rather than awesome in two and terrible in one.

< On the other hand, 3.PF / Shadowrun are quite succesful despite or because they min-max those 3 aspects.

Food for thoughts.

>>419128

1. Tracking Fatigue per round is going to be tedious and will be forgotten if not at every round.

2. I expect a character at 0 hp becomes unconscious / dying. If he is, what is the point of adding a single point? Might as well max him out.

3. Even with DR, seasoned heroes with a single hit die fighting in a system that uses no bell curve and thus extremely fickle seems like prone to frequent, unwanted and inevitable character deaths.

May I suggest you take a look at the Epic 6 rule set for D&D 3.5? I made a variation for Star Wars saga, otherwise another horrible d20 game, and it worked excellently, avoiding HP bloats while still giving the feeling of progress.

4. Why use d6 for initiative? As much as I hate d20, unless you want modifiers to matter a lot, granularity and the lack of a bell curve seems desirable in that instance, the thing d20 is actually suited best to do.

Working on a homebrew D&D system that is a mashup of 3.5e, 5e, and a bit of Pathfinder. All set in a homebrew setting called "Red Tide". It utilizes the simplicity of advantage from 5e, while keeping the3.5e multi-classing options. Characters get stat boosts based on the races and classes they choose. I have created a spell resistance system, created 2 new classes, the Shaman and the Dread Knight. I am hoping to start playing here in the next month. Maybe after it is all done ill make a link available to those that are interested.

>>416700

>>416701

I know you've gone a long time without a reply, but this post caught my attention (it's my first time dipping my head into this thread, or homebrewing in general). Initially I was opposed to your idea on principle, but after some consideration, I think it has potential if you pair it with other mechanics.

Broadly speaking, this seems like the kind of dice system that encourages players to revel in minutiae, but without being simulationist, and you should be proud of doing what I previously would have thought to be impossible. Thus, as you noted in one of your drawback points, how do you make this system engaging within the context of a larger TTRPG? I think the solution may be to take a more generic approach to the larger details: instead of doing full prep, you could measure story progress in "narrative units" that allow you to advance towards a conclusion, or move away from it depending on your successes and failures within a specific situation.

There were some Dungeon Generator and Adventure Generator-style PDFs in the share thread a while ago. I'm not sure if I saved them, but that's what I'm imagining would pair well: the party can focus on the simple stuff in terms of slashing monsters and the larger story beats are automatically generated. Perhaps the party's progress within the story could be its own object, and the more the party succeeds at minor tasks, the higher its modifiers are: when you need to advance the story, you roll and do something appropriate. There was one particular system that used this style of story progression, and the players and Big Bad all had generic names to better facilitate it (The Evil, The Barbarian, The Hunter, etc.) I think the name was Mythic or something. It's bugging me that I can't recall it.

Anyway, that's my view on the system you've created. If I were to make one system change, I might reduce it from a three-roll system to a two-roll system. I prefer simpler mechanics in general, I think having one roll to determine success/failure and one roll to determine the degree of it would be enough; having a system where you can simultaneously succeed and fail and succeed, then fail-forward would be very difficult to grok on the level needed for quick, intuitive play.

Please do keep developing this idea, though; I would like to see it implemented because it has real potential, and I love any alternative to shitty d20 systems.