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“Your existence is a momentary lapse of reason.”

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 No.51034 [Open thread]

As mentioned in the cyber feel thread, how about we discuss how to properly use VR.

Right now, what we have is virtual monitors in a 3D environment. It's the most basic user interface inspired by the concept we've been using for decades.

It doesn't do the possibilities justice though. It's still limiting yourself to monitors, just more of them in a beach house, mountain cabin or whatever you design.

Let's discuss how you could actually "dive in". Post a conventional program (file manager, text processor, web browser, IDE, accounting applications, online banking, etc.) and how you could take advantage of VR. After all, it's just representing 1s and 0s, right?

Multiple concepts for a single program and feedback welcome.

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 No.51190

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Obviously, the CityScape meme is a common paradigm for navigating around. Also, I think a sort of clunky, old interface for indexed data (re the fax machine with the hidden message) is a tried and true approach to the problem.

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 No.51191

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 No.51195

>>51191

The physical world is the worst possible metaphor for the internet I could imagine. If I want to go to a site to get something, I have fly there? Ugh …

I remember Secondlife having a Dell shop where you could walk around and build your computer with virtual components. What a fucking terrible interface.

We do things with 'pages' and 'hypertext' because they work better than reality. We can search for something, click on it, and be there immediately without any sense of travel.

For getting work done, it's already so much better than a virtual world I inhabit.

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 No.51214

If you want to enable usable VR headsets and UIs on a very low level, you need to rethink the entire paradigm. Think VMs and containerization.

You should be spooling up a VM with your GPU on passthrough that does nothing but show you the display and pass data back and forth for a secondary VM, which is where all your actual work takes place. And much of that work should actually take place in containers, which would be really fucking nifty to control in VR and would be very intuitive as the cyber-tower type structures shown in >>51036

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 No.51217

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I feel like something similar to webm related would be a good way to display files in 3d space

theres also this imageboard http://hamstakilla.com/ which has an option to browse in 3d

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 No.42259 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Damn, this place is quiet. Let's talk personal philosophies. Anyone can bitch about what's cyberpunk or not, anyone can edgelord it up about sticking it to the man and petty attempts at annoying corps– but what about the real nitty-gritty of life, cyber-dystopia or otherwise?

Here's my perspective. First, everyone needs to chill the fuck out. We live in such a fucked up world that if we let ourselves get worked up over every little thing, we're never gonna chill out. You're wasting your life if you just shout about shit. Calm down, have a snack, go bowling or some shit. You can't change the world in a day, so you might as well enjoy what you've got before it's gone.

Second, we need to look out for eachother. Yeah, you can't trust people, lots of people suck. But if you find that group that you CAN trust, fuckin stick to them. Contribute. You need people you can rely on, and so do they. You don't need to be a social butterfly to have at least a couple of people on your side; humans are social creatures. Lone wolves are vulnerable, not cool.

Third, we need to look out for OURSELVES. With the crazy politics and growing threats around the world, it's not going to be long before shit hits the fan real hard. We should live our lives (see part one, chill out) and enjoy em, but it always pays to be prepared.

What about you chummers? How do my ideas fit into the /cyber/ side of things to you? What about YOUR ideas? Let's chase away the deadness.

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 No.51193

>>42616

>GOMAD

is a meme - just eat decent food that you cook yourself, and make sure the ingredients contain your daily nutritional requirements (maintenance) plus gains.

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 No.51194

>>51171

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. (((Democracy))) is evil. The US system of a representative Republic is probably the best system that's reasonably doable in the current modern world. Once TSHTF, then honest Libertarianism will be the norm for the survivors, until (((feminism))) once again manages to once again gain a stranglehold on men.

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 No.51207

>>51194

>implying feminism hasn't already fucked everything up so much that nothing can fix it

The problem with all the "do as ye will but harm none" rhetoric in this thread is that people will just label anything they don't like harmful. You're an honest, respectable citizen and you want to own a gun? Too bad, that's potentially harmful to society (read: the government), so it needs to be banned. You're a college student and the other day while you were walking down the street, some qt3.14 from the local high school was eyeing you? You can't be with her because some feminist hag in academia published a bullshit paper saying it's psychologically harmful (to the hag's self-esteem because she's mad that you'd rather have a teenage babe than her busted ass) and her squads of nu-male manginas will back her up to virtue signal in the hopes of getting some roastie pussy because they know they can't score anything better. What different people classify as harmful inevitably ends up being whatever goes against their interests or desires. No matter how much evidence you show them that their threat narrative is crap, you'll never be able to convince them, just like the rich and powerful will never be convinced that they should stop oppressing the poor and powerless. What society considers harmful is entirely dependent on who has power. If you want your definition of harm to be the one society uses, you need power. Rhetoric only convinces those whose demographics would make them naturally inclined to agree with you.

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 No.51208

>>51207

>that people will just label anything they don't like harmful

The best way to solve this is just by considering only direct damage as harm. Libertarians with their NAP have thought this thoroughly long ago. The problem with it, and with any other option is that they do not matter as the most publicly supported opinion, no matter how wrong or inconsistent it is, will be the one to be used and treated by judges the way they want to. Democracy encourages not only uncritical thinking and loud opinions, but the meanings of words as well.

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 No.51210

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I keep my personal credo fairly simple.

Offer everyone basic common courtesy.

Maintain a basic level of human kindness until there is good reason to cease doing so.

Never trust a feminist.

Never feel entitled to anything but basic respect.

Never leave a physical enemy standing. Kill if necessary for survival.

Be as self-sufficient as possible.

Recognize that there is no shame in needing help.

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 No.49710 [Open thread]

Tall. White. Above average attractiveness. Early 20s. Dropped out of college. Small apartmemt in the city. Hard wood floors. Google fiber. Well paying job in advertising. Deep insecurities. Trouble connecting with people. Disillusioned with capitalism. Looking for a greater purpose in life. Lonely.

I feel like a cliche. I'm sure that a lot of you on here don't feel like you fit in with society either. Everything you've tried doesn't work but you have enough to be grateful for that you don't know how to appreciate. I don't know how to make it better either. I've seen therapists and none of them have helped. Tried online dating. Meet ups. Nothing

Sorry in advance for the blog post, but at least I'm trying to post something genuine.

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 No.51138

when i am feeling dissatisfied with how my life and the world is now, i like to think about the future. the only thing we can be certain of for the future is that the world will change, because it is in the nature of things to grow, evolve, and decay. whatever kind of state the world is in now, that state will decay and then the world will change and come into a new state, and maybe the next state of the world will be better for you, if you are still alive to see the new state of the world.

you can only hope that it will be better.

speaking of the future, the year will be 2020 soon enough, can you believe it?

in the 20th century, people were expecting there to be flying cars and other advanced kinds of technology. what kind of technology do you think will exist in the year 2020?

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 No.51140

Meditation and breathing. Get to know the human and the transcendental within. The truth of who you are beyond the ego and the social image of a tall white man in his early 20s … No material possessions or social situation will bring you to the truth of who you are. Get to know the purpose of life, not just your purpose. It's time for you to log in dear fellow. Here's some help if you're willing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5_sbzSXs0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gheLYL7x1ho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzvT0vy5cjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_jSJzsNfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eu9GfHCpVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPWU59Luoc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeK2MBxmWoY

You are the cosmos not just a pack of meat, get to know your true core, the unconditional love that imbueds all. Surrender to the Supreme, no religion, no dogma, simple sitting in observation of one's oneness with all.

You're gonna have to change your food (vegetarian) and your water. Sadhguru is your man for the technicalities of the body (REAL yoga - union of mind body and the emptiness beyond).

My heart's with you.

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 No.51151

All my keys are depressed, except F1. Help.

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 No.51175

>>51140

Sounds like jerking off on the idea of being special boy in front of a mirror.

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 No.51176

>>51175

Nothing & nobody is special … If the plants and animals and insects go away, we go away. If we go away, they thrive. How about special?

Be still and know that I am God: Jesus.

Stacking negative emotions and mind made BS - belief systems - (too many self related thoughts and self talking) is what makes people sick and depressed. It's ok to feel like shit at some point, but that's a sign one must go within and see the truth of the self and the truth of the world. The illusion of self. Know your place in this cosmos. Feel the inherent compassionate background silence in which all sound happens. The Creator's space, the Kingdom of Heaven.

From very young we're conditionned into this materialistic world where we seek to fill an inner feeling of expansion with objects rather than simple existence and beautiful fulfilling life experiences. We forgot that all of this is divine and not ours.

We think social status is fulfilling and we strive. Strive not and humble yourself in front of the mighty creation of the Creator. Science is BS, all is BS compared to intricacy and fine tuned work that is this universe we witness. And yet, skepticism rules our hearts and we see no truth nor do we know peace in our hearts.

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 No.48526 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

I've been lookin for some good ones to shitpost in and/or seriously talk about cyberpunk stuff for a while now. I was desperate enough to join reddit's r/cyberpunk/ and that place is full of neomarxists and idiots, plus anyone who questions the cyberpunkness of a picture of a regular city street is met with hostility. Cancer and soykaf everywhere.

Where can I go for active cyberpunk discussion in between shifts at my shitty kitchen job?

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 No.49629

>>49627

It never is, is it?

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 No.49631

This thread is proof of why you guys don't deserve to know even if I had anything new to share. I can only second wirechan.org and /g/punk.

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 No.49633

>>49627

If you weren't retarded and didn't completely ignore that post, you would have understood that the literal opposite is implicit there. Marxism is communism, and so is Neo-Marxism. But that these two are the same cannot be inferred from this. And I'm not even a fucking leftist.

May God curse you and every single generation after you. You're a fag, a nigger and a stupid cocksucker.

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 No.49636

Why Meganchan closed ? Is there an anon from this Chan ? Was it a good imageboard ? Thank ye.

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 No.51110

http://www.futuretimeline.net/forum/

https://forum.biohack.me/

Full of transhumanists mostly, but OK if you don't mind sensitive normie sensibilities.

Too bad there isn't some kind of cross-site aggregation thing for cyberpunk places.

Community is spread so thin over petty ideological shit. Guess that's to be expected of "hardcore" cyberpunk culture.

>>49585

>Snopes.com

man, too bad that extreme leftwing mom and pop team is incredibly biased.

Actually would be nice if there was a snopes for snopes… wait.

http://snopesforsnopes.com

Oh snap, haha!

>>49171

> not prepared to live in post-apocalyptic wastes

> not having freeze-dried "astronaut" rations killing 2 birds via 1 stone.

This is just basic preparedness for average city, planet earth.

< sprinkles dry packet of "astronaut icecream" on ramen w/ sugar from MRE.

< takes off dust mask

Ahh, dessert in the desert is served.

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 No.35041 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

This is an excellent place to drop off this special package of secret information THAT EVIL PEOPLE DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT. I hope this helps you all.

https://8ch.net/g/res/3537.html

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 No.50998

>>50868

I'd consider making a bunch of pdfs if /cyber/ made a list of useful things to know.

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 No.51003

>>50998

I don't have materials for you but I know what's important so you can start looking:

-Explain the implications of Snowden documents. Collect good articles published by The Intercept for example. Wikipedia has good summaries too "Global Surveillance Disclosures (2013-)".

-Explain what free and open source software is. Explain how it's better than open source (because it emphasizes responsibility of developer and freedom of user over freedom of developer to do whatever they want). Maybe put the context of freedom in "ethics vs anarchy". Explain how it's easier to verify what the software is actually doing.

-Explain how proprietary operating systems can not be verified and thus can not be trusted. Explain how it's especially the case with Windows, that's a service (making brouzouf by spying on its users like Facebook). Explain why Linux, BSD and last but not least, OSX are superior choices over Windows.

-Make guide for Full Disk Encryption with different operating systems.

-Explain why SSL is not proper encryption in situations where server is not the destination, but ill-advicedly trusted middle-point between user and their contact who are exchanging information. Explain how end-to-end encryption protects user from server.

-Make guide for end-to-end encrypted messaging with good communication apps like Signal and Wire (and not apps like Tox written by amateurs, not proprietary apps like iMessage, Wickr and Threema, and definitely not incomplete apps like Telegram or Riot/Matrix with E2EE disabled by default).

-Explain difference between content and metadata. Explain importance of metadata in surveillance. Watch e.g. http://agoodamerican.org/ to get a good grasp on the topic. Explain implications of Signal not protecting your metadata.

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 No.51004

>>50772

If you can't make your buddy use super secure messaging apps then they are a bottleneck in your overall security. But even if they use insecure comms apps, a good hardened OS is always better than a Windows with its telemetry features.

I think people here should look into Qubes-OS if they want more security before looking into stripping modules from their Kernel.

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 No.51006

>>51004

You guys mistake 'friend' for 'accomplice'. You talk to your friends on Facebook. You don't talk to your accomplice online, at all, unless you have to and then you do it securely.

But, to have an accomplice, you need to have done something. Then, had someone else give enough of a shit about it to have done it with you. Then, have it be big and complex enough to have actually needed to discuss it.

None of you motherfuckers do anything, ever, so we all know you got no accomplices and belong on Facebook with all the other bitch ass pussies that don't do shit.

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 No.51092

>>51006

Your logic is faulty because you assume getting people off facebook to better alternatives isn't doing something meaningful in itself.

It's you who isn't getting anything accomplished. It's you who's whining here, telling No True Scotsman talks to accomplice online.

It's not like you can find accomplices online if you don't get close to them, and it's not like you can get close to anyone in monitored chats of Facebook.

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 No.47277 [Open thread]

The question has been goin around in my head since a long time. Androids are constantly evolving, one day, they may eventually replicate humans at perfection (think blade runner)

Could it be possible, and understandable for and human to fall in love with and android, and artificial life form?

I personally think it is, to me, the nature of skin, bone, and flesh is expandable. All these materials can be faked, but mind and soul cannot be. Of course, an AI can try to replicate human mind and brai functions, but in this case, we are just gonna assume that the synthetic body is piloted by an human brain (Like Major Motoko Kusanagi in GITS)

I mean, what is the sole difference between meat and synthethic substance? appearence? not really, one day, synthethic technology will be able to fake everything so well you could hardly see the difference.

Physics properties? maybe, but I doubt it.

The only difference is in the human mind and nowhere else.

Like gally said in Battle Angel Alita.

"Brainchip or not, it doesn't matter. A human being is a human being"

What do /cyber/ think about that? this topic really interests me, I would like to have other people point of view.

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 No.50639

>>47277

> All these can be faked, but the mind and soul cannot be.

Sure they can. Brains are meat computers. There's no reason to think true AI to the point of personhood should be impossible for synths. They'll just be using a different medium to make their neurons fire. Probably.

> soul

I don't believe in souls, they're an outdated remnant from our overly religious ancestors.

If you're talking about soul inn the sense of real feelings, I also don't see why a synth couldn't. Emotions are just a lizard brain response to stimuli, the only reason ours are complex is because we can and take the time to think about them.

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 No.50683

The topic has intrigued me for a while. I started a CYOA story that prominently features a robo-waifu. It's rather shitposty but references laden. It also has original artwork. We're past the waifu part for now but she may come into play later.

In my mind, I felt synthetic humans would have to have some form of empathy. Otherwise, you end up with sociopath tier I have no mouth and a must scream kind of A.I.s.

https://8ch.net/monster/res/337276.html#358791

if you do participate make sure you sage your posts.

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 No.50728

>>50683

>In my mind, I felt synthetic humans would have to have some form of empathy.

Empathy makes interactions between subjects entertaining, which would be pointless otherwise. We view lack of empathy as a defect because social interactions are a huge part of our own life, but it is wrong to assume that it is necessary only because when we observe life without empathy we understand that there's not much "us" in our lives.

You can read some data on mirror neurons, as they seem to be the mechanism responsible for empathy in humans.

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 No.51048

>>50683

> empathy

Empathy is the ability to understand another being. Any sufficiently complex / intelligent system will gain a measure of understanding of surroundings and the entities therein.

In order to imagine how another entity will act when presented with an action the cybernetic creature will create a mental model within itself based on its experience with said external entities. The degree of understanding can increase with the awareness and complexity level of the cybernetic being's internal simulation of the external environment / entities therein.

The synthetic humans will not only have empathy, all smart beings have empathy. Whether or not the cybernetic entity cares to exhibit kindness or not depends largely on whether that mind reading bitch thinks I'm going to kill her the first chance I get… er– uh, n/m.

TL;DR: Yeah, even "dumb" lab rats have empathy. It's not rocket science.

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/334/6061/1427.full

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 No.51934

>>50639

>God don't real!

>[tips fedora]*

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 No.49686 [Open thread]

now that the dust has settled from "the great meme war of 2016"

what did we learn from it, and what methods can be used for future internet wars?

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 No.50273

1. People do not believe jew media like good people thought they do.

2. (((Narrative))) can be beaten without another narrative.

3. Boomers are a lost cause with no hope of redeeming themselves.

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 No.50275

>>50271

It's because (((their))) magic has been perfected for centuries, while a bunch of anons doing chaosmagic works in the the short term, but fails in the long run.

Magic is not I cast magic missile, it's manifesting thoughtforms to affect the reality - i.e memes.

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 No.50763

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 No.50961

>>50275

It's performed in layers.

Magic, Miracles, Manifestations.. all with good intent; from low energy to high energy >

It's all from and for God.

We humans from all our perspectives defy the quality of this magic we speak of.

And don't forget; Anons work at best in chaos, the chanc es are there when evrybody loses oversight, but the autists.

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 No.50962

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We learned that a bunch of delusional larpers can actually convince themselves they made changes in the real world with "meme magic" so well that they are surprised when the real world doesn't match up with the world their echo-chamber tolled them existed.

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 No.45935 [Open thread]

What will you do when we can finally recreate life in the cyberspace lads?

https://systemspace. link/

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 No.50482

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>45953

Me too.

>>45935

>>45985

Reminds me of this music video and its story.

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 No.50483

If there's a discord chat for this, the entire thing is shit.

fuck that noise.

just a bunch of casual morons.

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 No.50485

>>50483

Can you stop shouting random phrases? You

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 No.50589

>>46154

>wherein memories remain intact across lifetimes

DROPPED

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 No.50613

>>50455

i left a while back when the whole people-actually-killing-themselves shit happened

what'd i miss?

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 No.48689 [Open thread]

i think that i just found one of the most cyberpunk app of all times, it's called where are the eyes and it shows all the security camera in the world, it's participative and everybody can put a "warning spot" to show where is a camera, that's cool so i wanted to share it with you guys

https://eyes.daylightingsociety.org/

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 No.49152

>>48932

>it's no big deal, just information that belongs to me being sold without my knowledge for the purpose of targeted advertising

Hate to break it to you, but they'd sell data to ANYONE offering enough. Again, this is data that belongs to you.

If you personally decide to sell your data to megacorps for brouzouf it's your decision. If someone else does it, that's basically theft.

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 No.49167

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>>49152

>information that belongs to me

It doesn't.

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 No.50547

>>48872

>>48860

>>48874

Slightly off-topic, but I've always thought about grabbing some infra-red lights like this and putting them near my license plate…

Y-you know, as a thought experiment…

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 No.50591

>>48693

>using any services based in Germany

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 No.50601

>>49167

You know the music used in the video was used without permission from the copyright owner!

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 No.50365 [Open thread]

Interested?

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 No.50494

>>50491

Was it not clear that I was opposed to the idea of implementing your own cryptography?

You literally elaborated on what I said. Don't get me wrong, not ungrateful, but I feel you misunderstood my position.

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 No.50529

>>50487

>>50491

>>50494

>"Anyone, from the most clueless amateur to the best cryptographer, can create an algorithm that he himself can't break. It's not even hard. What is hard is creating an algorithm that no one else can break, even after years of analysis." - Bruce Schneier

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/04/schneiers_law.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier#Cryptography

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 No.50558

>all this hate

what? I thought /cyber/ was full of RPers who jerked off to the cyberpnk manifesto, and would be happy to actually participate in something like this. Hell, how can you be so sceptic about this and fall for stuff like Tsuki's scam? At least this has a bit more credibility. Perhaps it's because Tsuki didn't actually demanded that you knew anything and it was all about the aesthetics, and this guy actually wants you to know cryptography, is that it?

And just to clarify I'm not the OP nor do I really think he's all that serious ("it's a trojan RAT rootkit bootkit malware that uses tor, mr Alderson), but it's at least more interesting (and tangible) than "hey guys the system is about to be purged but not really"

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 No.50565

>>50558

>there's a handful of people who fell for the Tsuki scam

>this is marginally better than a pure scam

>therefor you mustn't hate it

Were you dropped as a child? This is /b/ level soykaff, get your attention begging elsewhere.

Also, you're very obviously OP.

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 No.50569

>>50565

Both are scams alright, and this is pure tsuki-tier shit.

That's why I don't understand why people would fall for one and not for the other.

At least this one makes my script-kiddie nature moist a little.

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 No.45289 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

So Lainchan just decided to remove their board index bar.

I guess Kalyx sold to, who, George Broussard and Cleve Blakemore?

Somebody about as coherent as a pit bull in a spin drier, at any rate.

I mean, who does that?

I guess I'm back here for the duration. This really doesn't bode well for the future of Lain.

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 No.50509

>>48356

>Fixes thread

>Sages it so nobody knows

Thanks BO.

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 No.50557

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>>45826

I'm still not sure which site owner I dislike more, lainchan's or arisuchan's. Appleman seems obsessed with rules and can't seem to grasp human emotions, but Seph treats donations like a personal piggy bank rather than a reserve of funds for future site hosting needs.

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 No.50559

>>50557

>Seph treats donations like a personal piggy bank

Sounds like Kalynx v2.0.

At least "she" should be more enjoyable to watch go on a masturbation spree (when everything falls apart in the end).

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 No.50564

>>50559

Sometimes I think about starting up an alternative site to both, something without obsessive-nitpicky-rule-enforcement and without donations (I'm pretty okay financially, hosting an equivalent site is certainly no hardship for me).

But then I wonder if I really need that sort of stressor in my life. I just don't think I have the time to do a decent job of it, the temperament to keep it going long-term, or the technical skills to do it properly and securely.

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 No.50568

>>50564

Honestly the last thing we need is more fragmentation.

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 No.44146 [Open thread]

Not sure how many /cyber/ users are into Overwatch, but the game is about to get a cyberpunk character very soon. Thought it was quite interesting.

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 No.44217

>>44195

Cyberpunk IS over the top. Don't let Deus Ex: HR and The Matrix trick you.

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 No.50456

Update: Sombra is now a player character and yes, she's related to hacking.

Its cool as hell, despite in-thread posts.

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 No.50480

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>>50456

>Overwatch ads on /cyber/

What did we do wrong?

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 No.50489

>>50456

please leave

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 No.58144

asdf

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 No.49911 [Open thread]

Sup chummers.

So,I need somewhere to store some of my files (about 100GB), and I do not want to pay for any cloud storage services .(I'm almost living below the poverty line, so nothing that involves brouzouf will help me.)

Does anyone know if I can create my own cloud storage?

Also, alternative storage means General.

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 No.50429

>>49911

lookup pogoplug. by cloud I assume you mean accessible outside your lan and not scalable. pogoplug, raspberrypi-like, or wrt can make your usb storage a NAS-like device.

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 No.50450

Fuck cloud storage. Get a dedicated keyring with some USB sticks and have them auto sync files by category.

Cloud storage can't be done in a remotely secure way.

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 No.50458

>>50450

>Cloud storage can't be done in a remotely secure way.

Unsubstantiated non-sense based upon a misunderstanding of secure. People seem to think that "security" is exclusively confidentiality, and then turn that into a schway fantasy. You cannot have a meaningful conversation about security without discussing a threat model and assets.

Asking is cloud storage "secure" is non-sense. Asking is cloud storage a "secure" option for assets that I must protect confidentiality on, given that my threat model includes the government as an actor, is a much more meaningful question. There is a risk , government gains access to cloud storage by i) Technical Measures ; ii) Social / Political Measures and security posture can be ajusted depending on your tolerance and analysis.

For example, If my threat model includes the US Gov, but not the Russian Government, I could avoid a possibly mitigate risk by choosing an NON-US cloud storage provider like yandex. I could choose to accept the risk that the US may use technical measures to gain access to yandex, or etc. Alternatively, I could employ techincal security measures through policy like "All data stored in Yandex Account must be encrypted with … ".

For someone who is not a larping hacker with an actual threat model cloud storage might be more secure than USB local storage.

https://ssd.eff.org/en/module/assessing-your-risks

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 No.50465

>>50458

Storing online gives away control over your data.

Yeah, they can have a policy, but ultimately, whatever cloud service you put your trust in has the drive your data is stored on.

Of course, a threat model is necessary in case you want to take certain risks to buy advantages. And no, I'm not a larping hacker. I know of the advantages of cloud storage and while designing threat models is not in my field, reading and understanding them definitely is.

If your data is highly confidential (or you're paranoid enough to think so), having absolute control over the storage device is a big plus, but can get expensive if you want data to be safe as well. Cloud services are much cheaper than having your own location.

There you go. Suppose I did sound like a poser, sorry for the confusion.

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 No.50469

I think most posts missed the point. A small number of cyberpunks may able to live off-to-grid independently in the digital world, but for most others is to smartly utilize the technology from the big corporations for their own advantage, or even against them. In Sci-Fi works, most cowboys steal the electricity from the Nuclear Plant, browse the corporation's commercial network to search intelligence, and rooting and modifying a commodity computer to gain back the control, rather than running their own generator, meshing their own network or designing their own computer. And ofc, sometimes they do. Utilization/exploitation and construction are just two means to achieve the goal of freedom, and either one can be used when it's the best choice.

It means for ordinary storage, big cloud + your own encryption is more than enough. Even if the NSA designed a quantum computer, it's still as easy as generating a 256-bit key locally and writing it down on a piece of paper. It guarantees the confidentially of your data. This is the beauty of utilization, small work for you, big work for them.

$ openssl rand -hex 32 
$ gpg --cipher-algo AES256 --symmetric file.tar.xz

When dealing with censorship, etc, the first paragraph applies.

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 No.48442 [Open thread]

You've all read the most cyberpunk philosopher, right?

“Nothing human makes it out of the near-future.”

"To describe this circuit, as it consumes the human species, is to define our bionic horizon: the threshold of conclusive nature-culture fusion at which a population becomes indistinguishable from its technology."

“Machinic desire can seem a little inhuman, as it rips up political cultures, deletes traditions, dissolves subjectivities, and hacks through security apparatuses, tracking a soulless tropism to zero control. This is because what appears to humanity as the history of capitalism is an invasion from the future by an artificial intelligent space that must assemble itself entirely from its enemy's resources.”

"As blockchains, drone logistics, nanotechnology, quantum computing, computational genomics, and virtual reality flood in, drenched in ever-higher densities of artificial intelligence, accelerationism won’t be going anywhere, unless ever deeper into itself. To be rushed by the phenomenon, to the point of terminal institutional paralysis, is the phenomenon. Naturally – which is to say completely inevitably – the human species will define this ultimate terrestrial event as a problem. To see it is already to say: We have to do something. To which accelerationism can only respond: You’re finally saying that now? Perhaps we ought to get started? In its colder variants, which are those that win out, it tends to laugh."

“Level-1 or world space is an anthropomorphically scaled, predominantly vision-configured, massively multi-slotted reality system that is obsolescing very rapidly.

Garbage time is running out.

Can what is playing you make it to level-2?”

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 No.50042

>>48442

>>48457

Not really that many big words TBH, dunno I seen pseudo-intellectuals use way more obscure ones to cover their asses

As for his statements it is a lot like what authors like peter watts say: in a nutshell a baseline human can't compete with an advanced AI when it comes to most jobs out there.

Autonomous vehicles alone will take a huuuuuge number of humans out of the system and those are right around the corner, only legal shit is keeping them out of the market.

That watson AI from IBM is an example of things to come: AI that might not replace a top-class engineers but can easily beat a ton of office workers for a fraction of the price and do a better job than all of them combined at only a fraction of the price.

All this is already real, not sci-fi stuff like Hal9000 (which is way more advanced than existing AI btw)

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 No.50093

the NRx shift is pretty lame, I'm on the whole U/ACC train in rejecting his reactionary shit and embracing (while developing on) his older stuff.

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 No.50394

>>48514

excellent. thank you.

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 No.50398

>>50093

somewhat surprised to find a mention of U/ACC in this old haunt of mine

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 No.50406

>>48442

That canadian author who wrote red siren is way more cyber than this guy

Too bad he's dead

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 No.48977 [Open thread]

Soup fags. I've been giving this a lot of thought lately and, well, I want to make my own game. Nothing impossibly like "the next WoW killer" or "like GTA combined with Fallout" or some other stupid shit like that, it's a pretty low-key idea that shouldn't be too hard to make. And obviously it's cyberpunk.

The only problem is programming. I can design, draw and write but programming is definitely not one of my skills. Are there any bored coders here that would like to collaborate? If not, are there any good places where I can start learning how to program a game?

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 No.49786

>>49212

Honestly? Anyone can make a game. It's not even that hard, it's just tedious.

When I look for collaborators, I'm not looking for people with amazing skills. I'm looking for people who will actually work hard, and finish what they start.

Everyone is 'making' a game, but 1% of them, maybe, actually finish. It's not because they don't have the skills, it's because at some point finishing something like that feels like digging a ditch, and not that many people can just keep their head down and shovel for a few months until their game is done.

Don't worry about your 'applicable skills'. Skills are easy, it's work ethic that's hard. Just start small, do something like flappy bird, and get a little bigger with each project.

It's funny, because it's way easier to have good ideas for that sprawling RPG, than it is for that one-screen, one-button game you can write in a weekend. So, don't think of it as a waste of time making something small and stupid, think of it as spending your time thinking about how to make every single little screen and action something that'll stand on its own.

By the time you're making big projects, in a group, you'll know how to pack some goodness into every image, every click, and every screen … because you started with games that only had one of each.

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 No.49905

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>>49781

I've been posting it on /v/agdg/ thread:

>>>/v/14595695

>>>/v/14596463

I'm a little under the weather with a flu, so will post here after I finish tweaking some graphical effects which I'll do after some bed rest, reading and vidya.

It works as a 2 player game now with some graphical bugs because I'm working on the effects and counter displays right now. It's not balanced and I don't have anyone with the patience to play test it with me so I'm going to make some basic finite state machine "AI", reading up on it in between playing vidya while sick. Seems pretty straight forward. So almost finished as a 2 player minus the balancing and some text for the "cards", but I'll also be bolting on AI player now after I tweak the graphics.

I did similar to you anon, tried a few times in C, it was painfully slow to achieve something I'm happy with, then later learned js as part of web 2.0 type course, found a nice js api that uses observer patterns and node trees so was easy enough to use, but I switched to godot when I saw how much quicker it was to work and it had same dev patterns as the js api which reduced the learning curve.

>>49212

>>49783

I'm pretty shit too at writing/drawing/music, but I practice with gimp, kdenlive, blender and fl studio a lot and I seem to be improving, slowly. Shitposting, trying to write pasta and meme'ing is a good way to learn imo, when anons start reposting stuff you made, it means you're heading in the right direction.

>>49786

I agree with everything you said, start small, put the work. Even when you're doing something big, build it in small chunks, so if you stopped after 3 small chunks, you might be able to reuse the small chunks latPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.49906

>>49698

Partially true.

It might be easy to fantasize but it is harder to create something good than to be a good programmer, since while the latter just needs to follow proper instructions, the former needs to come up with something original enough to be attractive, but not so strange to be repulsive.

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 No.49913

>>49906

>fundamentally misunderstands engineering.

Engineering can many times be an art, its its not always obvious how to solve a novel problem. that said, programing a shitty textbased game is not a novel problem

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 No.49944

>>49905

>Maybe we could put our heads together and come up with a /cyber/ game.

Part of my NEET retirement plan involves creating a pretty /cyber/ 2D side-scrolling RPG and I might do collaborations for side content with anons when I've finished all the base content. When that time comes, I'll probably post about it here and on whatever the most popular /v/ alternative is at that moment.

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