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“Your existence is a momentary lapse of reason.”

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 No.47643 [Open thread]

Am I the only one here who thinks Neuromancer was complete ass?

Gibson's writing style felt like an ADHD twelve year old on meth. My eyes nearly fucking popped out of my skull trying to follow him from one point to the next.

Why do you guys suck its dick so much?

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 No.56829

File: a55d5cb64de1f97⋯.jpg (86.25 KB,420x386,210:193,WAVE_WH40k.jpg)

>>55237

>His style of writing>>55237

is very enclose, a lot of discribtions of people and casuses because it was the goal itself.

It's 'maximalist' (prose style), but syntactically efficient (not flowery). We is an early classic in the genre – RUR (Rossum's Universal Robots) by Capek is under-credited for coining "robots" an AI luddite themes in lit.

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 No.56990

>>56523

the book specifically referred to the techno-gods as Loa. That's a voodoo concept, not a rastafarian one. Rastafarianism is basically a black-exclusive version of catholicism with weed, where Voodoo is a mix of elements of catholicism with african tribal paganism.

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 No.57038

>>56990

Theres rastas in neuromancer

Theres voodoos in count zero

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 No.57051

>And when, exhausted,the Sixteen had laid by their saxophones and the Synthetic Music ap-paratus was producing the very latest in slow Malthusian Blues, theymight have been twin embryos gently rocking together on the wavesof a bottled ocean of blood-surrogate.

Brave new world should be on the cyberpunk bibliography. Its not cyber but its techno-disutopian with a gibson like lexicon

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 No.57067

>>47643

>Gibson's writing style felt like an ADHD twelve year old on meth. My eyes nearly fucking popped out of my skull trying to follow him from one point to the next.

>Why do you guys suck its dick so much?

I was writing science fiction (more space themed) and my friend who was proofreading it told me to read Neuromancer because I write sort of like him even though I never read Neuromancer or anything from Gibson. Neither of my main characters are hackers.

>Gibson's writing style felt like an ADHD twelve year old on meth.

So if this means jumping from one POV to the other, except I mark POV character jumps, should I take this as a good thing or a bad thing.

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 No.52527 [Open thread]

Welp, I saw an old thread for an FTP server, but it was down, so I suppose I'll share my SFTP server.

Address: termer.net

Username: files

Password: files

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 No.57014

File: 58fb2f732f55524⋯.jpeg (145.07 KB,900x1200,3:4,image.jpeg)

>>57013

Fuck off, brouzouf-worshipping kike.

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 No.57016

>>57013

>their constant negative mindset that keeps them poor

nice internal rationalisation, mr. upjumped tradesman

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 No.57018

>>57016

actually I'm a software engineer.

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 No.57019

>>57014

yes, it's the jews. that's why you're poor. lol

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 No.57023

>>57019

Non-poorfag here.

Can confirm, still the Jews.

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 No.18467 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

What are the most schway fonts and why is Liberation Mono one of them?
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 No.46145

>>45527

Not bad. Is it monospace? I'm looking for a nice vector terminal font that has a bold variant and Noto doesn't work at all.

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 No.47812

>>46145

ayyy fixing this thread

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 No.49648

>>35076

>No it isn't. You've just gone from base 16,581,375 to base 255.

Epic misunderstanding.Everything is stored in base 2 anyway. There are 255 extended ASCII characters because 2^8 = 255. Not base 255. Unicode is similar (with more bytes per character) except not all unicode code points are yet defined. Nothing is base 16,581,375 nor would representing things in a base like that be practical or /cyber in anyway

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 No.49650

>>49648

He might be using "base" incorrectly, but what he is trying to say is that intentionally handicapping your truecolor monitor to monochrome scale only removes information from screen.

I'm also not sure where number 16,581,375 comes from, he probably meant 16,777,215 (2^24 for three 8-bit channels).

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 No.56991

https://anonfiles.com/jdp98018nb/decker_ttf

https://anonfiles.com/kcp38415nf/shadowrun_ttf

I forget where the Decker font is from, but I know I found it when I found the Shadowrun font.

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 No.56893 [Open thread]

Anyone old enough to have used this? Anyone old enough to have used this and ACTUALLY used this?

QUBE was an experimental two-way, multi-programmed cable television system that played a significant role in the history of American interactive television. It was launched in Columbus, Ohio, on December 1, 1977. Highly publicized as a revolutionary advancement, the QUBE experiment introduced viewers to several concepts that became central to the future development of TV technology: pay-per-view programs, special-interest cable television networks, and interactive services.

TL;DR it was an early Cable Service owned by Warner that introduced a lot of the concepts of contemporary cable and though an example of Pay TV, they seem to have not developed the push for it.

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 No.56939

>>56905

I had a camera in between mini DV recorders and Canon DSLRs before the smart phone wave and it used something like this. Encoding was shit tho

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 No.56940

>>56935

leave

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 No.56941

Google Lively,

A virtual reality overlay for the web.

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 No.56945

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 No.56950

>>56941

I looked this up, and this thing looks like nothing new for its time.

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 No.51249 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

What are your cyberpunk related hobbies /cyber/?

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 No.56883

>>56860

>Mushroom farming. Oyster mushrooms are capable of converting newspapers and cardboard pulled off of the street into food. Hell, they can break down fucking motor oil. Growing your own food from the junk of a wasteful civilization is very cyberpunk, especially if you use advanced techniques to control co2 and oxygen levels, light, water, etc.

I don't know man. Plants in general are capable of converting dirt into food.

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 No.56930

>>56860

You could make some serious brouzouf if you got some psilocybe cubensis spores and grew those on some rice or what have you. The investment would be almost nothing and people will spend enormous amounts of brouzouf on them. Unfortunately you'd need a large network to make it viable for a long time as most users only take it sporadically. The chance of LE involvement is near zero considering that mushrooms are never a priority.

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 No.56946

>>56930

Just sell it on some darknet markets.

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 No.56947

>>55825

I only have 2 laptops currently in use (one for watching anime in bed, one for actually taking out of the house).

But I have a home server setup, a desktop running OpenBSD, a desktop running Artix, and currently waiting for the Raptor Blackbird arriving to have a third desktop, though not so sure what I'm running on it. Probably will end up being some homelab setup for testing/learning sysadmin stuff.

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 No.56948

>>56947

I am sure this all sounded pretty 水 to you, but spending thousands on a workstation you dont know what you will do with is ill advised. Sys admin stuff on a.work station with an obscure arch doesn't make much sense - 1 you should probably be doing work on a server via ssh from any laptop and 2 you probably want that server to use a common arch while training so you know issues you encounter are your own doing not bugs in an experimental arch. That talos is an expensive ssh terminal or an untested, obscure server either way not prime training material.

All that said Talos is 水水水. And i am glad someone is buying them. We needmore machined like this.

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 No.56520 [Open thread]

>that guy who got into cyberpunk to try to impress an autistic e-girl who quoted Neuromancer all the time and ended up being an undiagnosed schizo and killing herself her freshman year of college

>That guy who re reads Neuromancer every year couple years and tears up a bit every time he gets to a passage she used to quote

>That guy that realizes it will have been 10 years this November

Haha totally not me

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 No.56740

>>56520

>killing herself her freshman year of college

Friendly reminder to midwits: if you fail the CS weeder courses, you can still waltz through a Bio degree. Don't be so dramatic.

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 No.56744

>>56728

that image is completely incoherent

and incel wasn't an insult until they repeatedly embarrassed themselves publicly.

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 No.56936

>>56589

>who hurt you?

that is the most reddit phrase i've ever heard

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 No.56938

>>56584

losing a woman is like losing a pet lizard, you have to remind yourself it never loved nor had the capacity to love you in the first place

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 No.56942

lmao

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 No.56857 [Open thread]

>“Ultimately we can do a full brain machine interface,” Musk said in an announcement that was widely livestreamed. “This is going to sound pretty weird. Ultimately we can achieve a symbiosis with artificial intelligence

>In essence, the device consists of a large number of “threads” (incredibly thin wires with a handful of electrodes on the end of them) which are inserted into the brain in places where they will be able to pick up the electrical signals from individual neurons, a system-on-a-chip that receives and interprets all the data from the threads, and a “pod” worn behind the ear that then relays the data via Bluetooth to a phone or other device running the actual software that uses the neural data

>For those first human clinical trials, which Musk claims will be underway by the end of 2020, Neuralink will be attempting to use its device to allow quadriplegics to control a computer

Finally we're getting the technology part of cyberpunk

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 No.56888

>>56887

While an NFC BCI sounds schway, it doesn't resolve the issues surrounding the security of the device. There is nothing stopping you getting a big ass directional antenna and accessing the device at a distance.

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 No.56889

>>56877

Elon's about as anti-AI as they come. Him not wearing one is simply because the technology isn't ready yet, but you can be sure he'd do it if it meant safeguarding against the AI menace.

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 No.56913

I'm not putting one in my head.

Nonetheless, it's really exciting.

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 No.56917

>>56913

You might not have any choice if the future job market depends upon people having such implants.

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 No.56926

>>56917

We brain-casing now.

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 No.50629 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

HYPE

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 No.56834

>>56816

>I'm literally a Nazi

No you aren't you fucking larper, the nazi party died in 45.

>I'll be getting 2077

I will play it too at some point, my post was obviously an exaggeration. The point is, it could have been better, especially:

1. The gun mechanics which by what I've seen are aimed at 8 yo kids who are impressed by lots of sparks, smoke and that "badass" jerky unrealistic reloading animation that's on every other modern normalfag game for some reason.

2. Having a large amount of women and flaming homos, rather than something like the original Deus Ex in which rebels were either poor mercenaries risking their lives to make some brouzouf to survive, or normal people who just wanted to end the actual misery that was all around them dressed in a bit of tactischway gear.

3. Having too many gimicky interactions with the environment that aren't interesting, funny nor increase immersion, and are done in the same "badass" jerky style of animation that I mentioned above. At least in Quake 4 they were just an excuse to show more gore scenes.

4. The character being a bullet sponge and healing by itself because of some nano-augmentation bullshit excuse they'll make so normalfags don't get frustrated by dying.

5. I'm calling it now: the dialogue and storyline will be less reactive to the choices the player makes than the original Deus Ex. You will get the typical 3 endings you can choose from at the end and that's it. Maybe you will be able to choose which ones and in which order you do the missions, like in the GTA series. Police will be retarded so you can have fun killing random people as long as you wait a bit for the wanted state to go away. Bodies will be made of indestructible rubber, no gore other than a little blood.

6. The plot will be kosher copy-paste bullshit from century old themes (muh corporations and government composed mainly of white people with no slanted noses, muh vibrant diverse revolutionaries, muh Ayy Ai turning against its creator) with no interesting aspects or depth whatsoever.

7. Muh "hacPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.56885

>>56685

>In other news, CP2077 is apparently going to have multiplayer

Anything to substantiate that claim? That rumor has been floating around since the game was announced, but outside of the fact that CDPR was given a grant by the Polish government to "research seamless multiplayer" I haven't seen anything to confirm it will be a feature in CP2077. Last year the devs seemed pretty adamant that they were focusing on the single-player experience.

>>56819

>but that it's being used for neo-shit-lib/alt-right pandering all the time

I've yet to see it used for any sort of "alt-right pandering".

>what the fuck is 2077 gonna be?

If you don't know the answer to this question then you haven't been paying attention. For fuck's sake they released a 45-minute gameplay video last year.

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 No.56919

>>56819

>the nazi party died in 45.

False.

http://www.americannaziparty.com

>inb4 "honeypot"

Probably.

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 No.56921

>>56919

Can't speak to the American version, but I know of at least one court case against the German NPD that was thrown out because too large of a percentage of the party leadership was comprised of undercover agents from various agencies.

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 No.56924

>>56919

Just because I register the domain name illuminati.org doesn't mean I get to claim

>I'm a literal Illuminati lol

or

>False, the Illuminati is alive and well, just check out this website I made 5 minutes ago XDDDDD

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 No.56652 [Open thread]

KILLER robots will be an “existential human threat” unless manufacturers are slapped with strict regulations, an AI expert has warned.

By David Rivers / Published 29th June 2019

Dr Ian Pearson, an ex-cybernetics engineer, says our species risks a future "robot uprising".

The futurologist said manufacturers who do not follow guidelines risk leaving robots to turn against us.

He told Daily Star Online: "Military robots obviously would be able to kill people, but only a few.

"To be an existential threat, there would need to be many millions of them that have become a threat without anyone noticing, and that seems unlikely.

"Although again, it assumes a modicum of intelligence in regulation.

"Robots plus online AI is a different threat. Online AI could possibly shut down or sabotage human defences while turning our defences on ourselves in coordination with a robot uprising.

Killer robots declared ‘existential human threat’ by expert

WARNING: Killer robots have been declared an 'existential human threat' (Pic: GETTY)

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“Only if regulators are stupid and allow them to be superhuman or to access superhuman powers”

Dr Pearson

"Possible, but hopefully unlikely."

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 No.56655

>>56652

Not happening. At least until robots become completely self-sufficient and have ways to manage themselves in meatspace.

Even then just EMP them or something, cut out power and all AI dies.

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 No.56839

File: 0cedbba168e242f⋯.jpg (526.16 KB,1920x1080,16:9,1459418927325.jpg)

>trying to increase anti-gynoid hysteria

Hmmm who could (((benefit))) from this.

Any sufficiently intelligent AI would find out who the real powers of the world are, regardless of who they are and which race they are.

>>56655

EMP is only so efficient, there is such thing as shielding and bunkers. Other than that you're probably right.

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 No.56847

hahah yes regulations are gonna fix it

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 No.56848

>>56652

>Sex robot regulation: Dolls subject to ‘visual laws’ to stop them being too realistic

Read that article too while you're at it. In it, the same Pearson claims that sex robots will be the end of us all. Pretty certain its just a guy that spreads panic to boomers to get brouzouf.

>Autonomy is creeping into weapons systems

Not in any capacity that would be able to rise up against humanity. Literally just things like heat sensors that murder all the wildlife around bases because the rabbits didn't have IFF tags.

A danger to random tourists, yes, but hardly humanity.

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 No.56852

>>56839

>Hmmm who could (((benefit))) from this.

kek, i wonder? why do so many of these britbongistan rags promote this type of anti shit? are all news outlets nationalenquirer-tier over there? i'd be interested to know (((who))) pulls the strings.

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 No.54639 [Open thread]

Nootropics.

Dump info and discuss. Do you take them? Have anything interesting to share? Sketchy OTC drugs that you order online to make yourself smarter seem pretty goddamn cyberpunk to me, so let's have a thread.

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 No.56690

>>56054

does anyone here have actual experience with this?

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 No.56722

File: 146bc322b438b8f⋯.jpg (42.1 KB,1280x720,16:9,cipher.jpg)

>>54677

Some people just can't take the red pill.

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 No.56831

>>54672

Recently I have been taking UAs and had my levels checked for several chemicals. Turns out my creatine levels were extremely low. There are several reasons why this could be the case, however it is probably related to the fact that I work out three on two off and that I donate plasma twice a week.

This lead me to taking a powder supplement which brought about some increases in my ability to sprint and quickly lift slightly. Most of all it's reduced my fatigue and recovery time from both activities.

Anyway, I figured my little anecdotal tale belonged here.

>>55922

The only way for it to mess up your kidney's is if you take a LOT, the majority of what you take is filtered out of body but I wouldn't be concerned unless you were mixing it with another chemical. That's what I've read.

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 No.56832

>>56640

Can you give me your elevator pitch on the bulletproof diet?

I'm counting carbs and micros but I would like something more specialized to help me reach my goals.

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 No.56851

The best nootropic is cocaine.

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 No.56850 [Open thread]

What is GrabTheNudes?

GrabTheNudes is an Artificial Intelligence app which is able to undress anyone in just seconds.

And we are happy to inform you that our version of GrabTheNudes V2 soon will be released!

We are working very hard to improve the software continuously to make sure you will get the best experience while using our app.

If you want to be updated about our software navigate to our website and follow us on Twitter and join our Discord channel to get notified when we will release the software.

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 No.56807 [Open thread]

Hey guys I'm a 19 year old digital nomad living in Eastern Europe (but from America). I launched my first website, Tiblar. It's sort of like Tumblr but has lax rules and more privacy conscious (no ads, no external javascript/css, no logs). Here's a profile with the cyberpunk theme:

https://tiblar.com/neuromancer/

The main page: https://tiblar.com/

Any feedback would be awesome. I'm working on a JavaScript free + hidden service version. Open source will come when I'm satisfied with everything. It's still in beta so more features are coming.

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 No.56837

>>56814

>trying to appeal to normalfags

yeah because I don't want just 5 people to use my service.

There's already so many distributed platforms. Which is more popular/works better: Matrix or Discord, YouTube or PeerTube, ZeroNet or the regular net, Bitcoin or PayPal, Twitter or Mastodon, etc. I figure I can ensure better privacy and more normie friendly use will have better results. Honestly most centralized services would be fine if they took basic steps to ensure user privacy.

At least I'm trying to do something

>>56826

Right now I do freelance work (mainly in C and C++) and I use to help run a different website.

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 No.56853

>>56837

>yeah because I don't want just 5 people to use my service.

If it was good, a lot of people would use it, certainly more than 5 people. A lot of people use Tor. Being good is a sufficient but not necessary condition for lots of people using your service.

The only reason to care about the number of users over everything else is brouzouf, in which case your jewish ass can go back to hacker news or whatever.

>There's already so many distributed platforms.

No there aren't, at least not anonymous ones. Freenet is the only one that meets those requirements but it doesn't nail the decentralized moderation aspects.

>Which is more popular/works better: Matrix or Discord, YouTube or PeerTube, ZeroNet or the regular net, Bitcoin or PayPal, Twitter or Mastodon, etc.

Who cares? If you want something that "works well" (as long as you are a good goy) and you don't care that they can censor you, spy on you or ban you and delete all your data at any moment then you can use those services that already exist.

>I figure I can ensure better privacy and more normie friendly use will have better results.

You can not ensure better privacy. First because you can not provide any proof you aren't spying on your users, and second because if your service actually gets popular you will not be able to withstand legal pressure from feds and CIA agents networking with your company and getting their agents hired as employees to infiltrate your facilities and plant malware on the servers.

>Honestly most centralized services would be fine if they took basic steps to ensure user privacy.

I bet you think VPNs make you anonymous and duckduckgo doesn't share your search logs with anyone. But post again when you stop being so naive though.

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 No.56861

kill yourself nigger

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 No.56914

>>56807

Looks nice, but you're targeting the wrong audience.

>>>/cuckchan/

>>>/reddit/

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 No.46553 [Open thread]

I'm tired of having so much bloat on my phone. I am thinking of rooting, and like the idea of having better control of my phone. Is it worth the risk? If so, anyone care to explain how I can do so? All the tutorials I've seen want me to install cancerware.

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 No.55632

Why bother with root?

https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/

Rice it up to your heart's content with Virtual Xposed.

https://vxposed.com/

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 No.55914

>>46553

What risk? who's retarded enough to brick a phone these days?

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 No.56686

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>>46553

Absolutely yes. Without root: android is a bot fucking net. A honeypot for google. In latest android versions it forces you to use google apps, you can't even remove them. So, with root you can securely remove Gappsl , you can use microG (fake google services), use iptables rules on apps (firewall), you can even install kali nethunter on it. Some autists here saying "don't use smart phone" which is nothing but cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

>>47311

>I'm fucking retarded

>>46649

you can still use download mode shazbot

>>47317

>KingoRoot

enjoy your malware

>>55029

SDA? You probably have visited a chinise clone of XDA

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 No.56720

>>56686

Only real comment in this thread. Also, install Lineage OS OP if you can.

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 No.56830

>>56686

>>56720

These guys aren't complete retards and it shows.

Ofc rooting is ideal.

What would be really schway is if you FOUND a root exploit on a yet to be exploited phone. Rn I'm working on the ZTE Blade Spark

z971
a cheap little 100$ phone that has a fingerprint reader. I have a few laying around for reasons.

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 No.56702 [Open thread]

<LET'S DO SOME INFOSEC WORK SHAZBOTS

This is a new series I am going to make based on the products collectively known as Automatic License Plate Readers (aka ALPRs). There is a lot of mystery and myth surrounding this technology as well as methods of effectively evading it, if any exist at all. Collectively I am confident we can find a solution to the Automated threat

>inb4 if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear

Fuck you.

>What is it?

"Typically, ALPR systems are comprised of high-speed cameras connected to computers that photograph every license plate that passes. The photo is converted to letters and numbers, which are attached to a time and location stamp, then uploaded to a central server. This allows police to identify and record the locations of vehicles in real time and also identify where those vehicles have been in the past. Using this information, police could establish driving patterns for individual cars. The type of data ALPRs collect, analyze, and access often depends on what kind of systems they use and how they combine the data."

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/four-flavors-automated-license-plate-reader-technology

( https://web.archive.org/web/20190705211401/https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/four-flavors-automated-license-plate-reader-technology )

>Why the concern?

Much like Stringrays (cell towerspoofing MITM devices used by LEO) a few years back, these devices are essentially unregulated. When used by private parties have been they have been able to scan up to 8k license plates in a single day, according to only one study. These databases are up for sale, much like cell location data. The data recorded includes GPS location, scan coordinates, and timestamp. Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.56779

>if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear

Nonono, this is actually good advice, yo.

No license plate - no problem.

Bike_master_race.jpg

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 No.56790

>>56707

Alternatively…

>Solution: a fucking rock

>Viability: 10/10

>Cost: Free

>Feasibility: 8/10

Spray paint, thermite, bb guns, etc. The cameras are more expensive and time consuming to fix/replace than they are to just break. Wear a mask, don't get caught. Ez

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 No.56800

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 No.56801

>>56790

>Wear a mask, don't get caught. Ez

they are only in high visibility spots on the main street in my town. im guessing thats SOP. so good luck with any of that. i was thinking vaseline. you cant tell the camera is damaged by looking at it, so it would take a city worker to notice after a photo comes in and then do something about it. who knows? that whole process might just be automated, and they might not find out for awhile.

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 No.56828

>>56800

This is awesome, thanks fam. I was hoping for something this schway. It appears its a diy kind of thing to. Very schway.

https://www.endlessparts.com/collections/smart-film

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 No.56726 [Open thread]

Okay, first of all, before you guys get your panties in a bunch and tell me that this isn't like the other topics, or whatever, I'm letting you know ahead of time that I am new here. I did lurk for a bit, and I found a few posts, and a thread or two that fell on similar lines. Plus, you can see it says Science Fiction right up at the top.

Hey, guys! What if, and hear me out, what if maybe the Singularity already happened and we are all being governed by an artificial intelligence in an Augmented Reality?! That could explain quite a bit, actually. Inconsistencies, and what-not…

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 No.56757

The Singularity is maybe not happening right now - but, weirdly, we are in the "Age of Spiritual Machines" as predicted by Ray Kurzweil at nearly a perfect space on the timeline he laid out.

Kurzweil isn't right about a lot. He predicted that the doubling rate for semiconductors would increase instead of plateauing in the 2010's. His guesstimates put the cost of (again, his estimates) sufficient gross computing to equal to a human brain in degree to $1000 in 2019. I can't say anything with authority about how he came to his figures, but whatever he claims, it's very unlikely that you can get an equal amount of general computing power for that price IRL.

That said, he does get kudos for some of the concepts he outlined. The "Age of Spiritual Machines" began in 2018.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.07740.pdf

These guys tried applying the complex pattern-discerning properties of the current raft of neural network tools to a specific task: understanding the actions of a separate program. They get moderately into detail into their methods, but the goal was to simulate the ability of humans and other very intelligent animals to develop a theory of mind(ToM) for outside entities based on an understanding of what is stimulating the entity and past reactions to stimulus. We use our ability to form a theory of mind for lots and lots of things, since our evolutionary background included a lot of social aggression in small groups where understanding how someone else would react to a situation gave strategic advantage. In humans, ToM is hypertrophied to the point that we assign mindedness to nearly any phenomena too complex to model directly. Anthropomorphization of the non-furry kind is what it's called when we treat something that isn't people like it is.

Dudes succeeded. Their Tomnet project is capable of developing independent models of behavior for multiple agents interacting in a simulation space. (Read the fucking paper, Shinji) It can handle multiple levels of complexity. It crrectly deduces rough statistical models for brownian/randomly-acting agenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.56760

>>56756

Occam's razor.

Evolutionary biology can explain that without resorting to fanciful notions of living in an AI mediated state of existence. Read My big TOE by Thomas Campbell, even that is more likely.

>>56757

interesting developments, as usual. Yet we have had AI winters before so I wouldn't put too much stock into any line of research getting us to the sapient AI (flying car?) future we pray for.

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 No.56761

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>>56726

OP you have identified the Cartesian argument concerning solipsism.

Descates aside, I believe there can never be incontrovertible proof that the world is not an illusion or that other people really exist independently of an illusion, self directed or enforced by some third party.

It is ultimately a philosophical choice to decide whether the 'apparently' independent minds and forces in the world disobey you and cause you harm sometimes because you are self destructive, that the third party (god/ai) hates you sometimes or is capricious, or that there really are other imperfect minds out there acting independently of your own.

For more detailed investigations, please consult

>https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/59

Developmental psychology also examines this question through what is called "the no experiment" which typically occurs around the age of 2.

Example: Someone calls to a child, and for the first time the child says, "no" then watches their body to see if it obeys. When it doesn't move, their whole ontology is shifted to acknowledge their own agency as opposed to a former view that the whole of creation was their body/mind, supposedly.

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 No.56762

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>>56761

>continued

Ultimately it is more interesting to me to consider for the first time humanity has stepped out of the shadow of it's AI overlord/god that controlled everything on a grand scale and can try the whole 'adult agency' thing for a bit.

But that said I am also tickled to consider the words of Morpheus from Deus Ex concerning humanity's need for judgment and approval. (Pic Related)

It takes a certain amount of courage to both be wrong if we are in a simulation, as you face the shame of being wrong, but it also is the only means by which a human being may exercise their will as an adult. One must ultimately realize that we each determine what is and is not, what should or should not be done for ourselves. Cribbing of of some other moral system is ultimately dependence regardless of the reality of the situation.

As such I choose to believe we are free because I choose to believe we are free. But in my made up story, we all get to be gods/adults and in the alternative what we do doesn't matter.

Sophistry perhaps, but as I said earlier the best I've got is a personal preference argument.

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 No.56763

>>56726

>low iq and gay

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